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*** Supporting this point is the "Hyperion Contract #873" sidequest. It's found in the Overlook Bounty Board, next to the entrance to The Dust, a bandit-infested area... which is also adjacent to the entrance to [[PeninsulaOfPowerLeveling Lynchwood]], ''another'' area even ''more'' infested with bandits. [[BeefGate Higher-levelled bandits, to boot]]. In terms of story, it's enabled right after you manage to re-enable the Fast Travel network via HoldTheLine. Clearly, Hyperion may be a disgusting MegaCorp which promotes assholery, with Jack as the king of entitled assholes leading it, but even they KnowWhenToFoldEm.

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*** Supporting this point is the "Hyperion Contract #873" sidequest.AssassinationSidequest. It requires you to kill 100 bandits[[note]]With four side missions requiring you to kill 25 bandits with Incendiary weapons, 25 with Corrosive weapons, 25 with Explosive weapons and 25 with Shock weapons[[/note]]. It's found in the Overlook Bounty Board, next to the entrance to The Dust, a bandit-infested area... which is also adjacent to the entrance to [[PeninsulaOfPowerLeveling Lynchwood]], ''another'' area even ''more'' infested with bandits. [[BeefGate Higher-levelled bandits, to boot]]. In terms of story, it's enabled available right after you manage to re-enable the Fast Travel network via HoldTheLine. Clearly, Hyperion may be a disgusting MegaCorp which promotes assholery, with Jack as the king of entitled assholes leading it, but even they KnowWhenToFoldEm.
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*** Supporting this point is the "Hyperion Contract #873" sidequest. It's found in the Overlook Bounty Board, next to the entrance to The Dust, a bandit-infested area... which is also adjacent to the entrance to [[PeninsulaOfPowerLeveling Lynchwood]], ''another'' area even ''more'' infested with bandits. [[BeefGate Higher-levelled bandits, to boot]]. In terms of story, it's enabled right after you manage to re-enable the Fast Travel network via HoldTheLine. Clearly, Hyperion may be a disgusting MegaCorp which promotes assholery, with Jack as the king of entitled assholes leading it, but even they KnowWhenToFoldEm.
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* Why doesn't Roland have any missions for you outside of the main ones? So when he dies, you don't lose any. The one sidequest he does host is given from a bulletin board.

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* Why doesn't Roland have any missions for you outside of the main ones? So when he dies, you don't lose any. The one sidequest he does host is given from a bulletin board.board, and is explicitly a recorded message from him regarding the assignment, since he's too busy at the time to actively direct you or give running commentary like everyone else giving you missions.

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* During the "Out of Body Experience" quest, you help a destroyed Hyperion Robot put its AI core into a new body. If loaders can be destroyed, but their AI cores salvaged and reused, maybe ALL the loaders you face later in the game are reincarnations of the ones you already destroyed. Not only are you facing an immortal enemy, but you're also facing an army of immortal enemies that probably get more and more vengeful with every battle. How long until every loader in existence is out to kill you?

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* During the "Out of Body Experience" quest, you help a destroyed Hyperion Robot Constructor put its AI core into a new body. If loaders robots can be destroyed, but their AI cores salvaged and reused, maybe ALL the loaders robots you face later in the game are reincarnations of the ones you already destroyed. Not only are you facing an immortal enemy, but you're also facing an army of immortal enemies that probably get more and more vengeful with every battle. How It won't be long until every loader in existence is out to kill you?you.


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** And since we're talking about Constructors, considering how they originated in ''The Pre-Sequel!'', it paints an even bleaker picture. Every Constructor you destroy and whose AI is salvageable is a copy of Felicity, who, in her own way, ''is'' immortal.

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** Furthermore, Jack wants to get rid of all the bandits and everybody else he doesn't like; you prove yourself quite adept at disposing of bandits, so why should he stop you?

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** Furthermore, Jack wants to get rid of all the bandits and everybody else he doesn't like; you prove yourself quite adept at disposing of bandits, so why should he has no real reason to stop you?you.



* The Vladof corporation are shown fighting Dahl's private army in their advertisement. Given that Hyperion is the main "corporate oppressor" in-game, why Dahl? First off, Vladof loves fast rate of fire and full-auto, while Dahl prefers slow rates and burst fire. And more importantly, Vladof makes assault rifles based on the AK-47 family. Dahl rifles seem to be built off the [=M16=] and its variants. And what was the [=M16=]'s biggest rival again?

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* The Vladof corporation are shown fighting Dahl's private army in their advertisement. Given that Hyperion is the main "corporate oppressor" in-game, why Dahl? First off, Vladof loves fast rate of fire and full-auto, while Dahl prefers slow rates and burst fire. And more importantly, Vladof makes assault rifles based on the AK-47 family. Dahl rifles seem to be built off the [=M16=] and its variants. And what was the [=M16=]'s biggest rival again?''Its rival.''



* During Tiny Tina's RPG campaign, Lilith notices the Dwarves are based on Salvador's appearance and finds it racist. When asked about it, Salvador's only reaction is to find the idea "awesome". It would be logical for an angry midget complexed about his short height to dislike being the inspiration for a group of Dwarves, but on the other hand, what could please more a GunNut BloodKnight than serving as the inspiration for a society of notorious {{Proud Warrior Race Guy}}s who are also commonly associated with gunpowder?



** Lilith notices the Dwarves are based on Salvador's appearance and finds it racist. When asked about it, Salvador's only reaction is to find the idea "awesome". It would be logical for an angry midget complexed about his short height to dislike being the inspiration for a group of Dwarves, but on the other hand, of course a GunNut BloodKnight like Salvador would be pleased to inspire a society of notorious {{Proud Warrior Race Guy}}s who are also commonly associated with gunpowder.



** What if Krieg's inner voice isn't unique to him? What if every psycho you fight has their own inner voice begging them to stop trying to kill you, and is silenced by your bullets?

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** What if Krieg's inner voice isn't unique to him? What if Maybe every psycho you fight has their own inner voice begging them to stop trying to kill you, [[YouBastard and said voice is silenced by your bullets?bullets]].



* In the "Candlerakk's Crag" level of ''Sir Hammerlock's Big Game Hunt'', there is, in the background, the skeleton of what appears to be a skag ''the size of a small island''. It's near the area where the New-U station is, off to the left. Pandora already has a reputation for being a DeathWorld in its current state, but if that thing was actually alive at some point in time, ''how long has Pandora been one?'' Furthermore, what could kill something that size?

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* In the "Candlerakk's Crag" level of ''Sir Hammerlock's Big Game Hunt'', there is, in the background, the skeleton of what appears to be a skag ''the size of a small island''. It's near the area where the New-U station is, off to the left. Pandora already has a reputation for being a DeathWorld in its current state, but if that thing was actually alive at some point in time, ''how long has Pandora been one?'' Furthermore, it raises questions about what could kill something that size?size.



** All of the enemies on the Digistruct Peak are, naturally, digistructed. Including all of the organic ones. Given what we saw when putting vehicles in the Digistruct system, where did Tannis get all of that Digistruct data? [[BodyHorror And what did the organic creatures' "dismantling" look like]]?

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** All of the enemies on the Digistruct Peak are, naturally, digistructed. Including all of the organic ones. Given what we saw when putting vehicles in the Digistruct system, where did Tannis get all of that Digistruct data? It also raises questions about [[BodyHorror And what did the organic creatures' "dismantling" look like]]?like]].
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** Her Psycho mask that she wears on the side of her head. At first, it simply looks like a trophy. However, taking her behaviour into account, one might see it as a hint that she is halfway between sane and being a Psycho herself. [[ForWantOfANail Her encounter with Roland and co.]] most likely [[MoralityPet prevented her from completely slipping into the latter]].

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** Her Psycho mask that she wears on the side of her head. At first, it simply looks like a trophy. However, taking her behaviour into account, one might see it as a hint that she is halfway between sane and being a Psycho herself. [[ForWantOfANail [[ContrivedCoincidence Her encounter with Roland and co.]] most likely [[MoralityPet prevented her from completely slipping into the latter]].
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** Piston keeps repeating how he's [[TheAce the number one]] throughout the entire DLC... however, the only thing he does after becoming the champion is keeping the player from reaching him. In contrast, Pyro Pete, Motor Momma and Flyboy all subject the player to a trial of some kind and then actually ''face'' the player without any excuses once said trial is completed. Piston, on the other hand, spends the entirety of the DLC placing obstacle after obstacle and staining the player's name and reputation. And when the time comes to face the player, he hides behind a huge mechanical dinosaur... And once ''that'' is destroyed, he's forced to face the player one-on-one. Contrast him to Pete again, who just faces you man to man, and eventually becomes the DLC's OptionalBoss. Piston truly ''is'' the Ultimate Coward.
** Why is Pyro Pete the [[SuperBoss raid boss]]? Of all of the "badasses" you have to fight, only Pete fights you man to man. Sure, his arena is tricked out to give him an advantage, but he doesn't fight you while augmented in a vehicle like the rest. Pete may be crazy, but he isn't a coward.

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** Piston keeps repeating how he's [[TheAce the number one]] throughout the entire DLC... DLC and [[BerserkButton gets pissed off whenever someone calls him a coward]]... however, the only thing he does after becoming the champion is keeping the player from reaching him. him, placing obstacle after obstacle, and staining the player's name and reputation. And when the time comes to face the player, instead of outright facing the player 1-on-1 like the rest of the bosses, he hides behind a huge mechanical dinosaur. In contrast, Pyro Pete, Pete (who even faces the Vault Hunters as the DLC's OptionalBoss), Motor Momma and Flyboy all subject the player to a trial of some kind and then actually ''face'' the player without any excuses once said trial is completed. Piston, on the other hand, spends the entirety of the DLC placing obstacle after obstacle and staining the player's name and reputation. And when the time comes In comparison to face the player, he hides behind a huge mechanical dinosaur... And once ''that'' is destroyed, he's forced to face the player one-on-one. Contrast him to Pete again, who just faces you man to man, and eventually becomes the DLC's OptionalBoss. them, Piston truly ''is'' the Ultimate Coward.
** Why is Pyro Pete the [[SuperBoss raid boss]]? Of all of the "badasses" you have to fight, only Pete fights you man to man. Sure, his arena is tricked out to give him an advantage, but he doesn't fight you while augmented in a vehicle like the rest. Pete may be crazy, but unlike Piston, he isn't a coward.



** Moxxi states that her innuendos are a defense mechanism after making a distasteful joke involving a cannibal literally eating her old girlfriend. In ''The Pre-Sequel!'' we learn that, when not in public, she reverts to the same Hodunk speak like her children. Since almost all of her interactions have you go out and kill someone, it means that she developed the whole Mad Moxxi facade just so she can cope with the necessity of living on [[DeathWorld Pandora]].
** The ShipTease between Moxxi and Torgue. Both were introduced to the Borderlandsverse in a DLC and played a key part as questgivers in a later DLC: Moxxi with ''1''[='=]s ''Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot'' and ''The Secret Armory of General Knoxx'' and Torgue with ''Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage'' and ''Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep''.

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** Moxxi states that her innuendos are a defense mechanism after making a distasteful joke involving a cannibal literally eating her old girlfriend. In ''The Pre-Sequel!'' we learn that, when not in public, she reverts to the same Hodunk speak like her children. Since almost all of her interactions have you go out and kill someone, it means that she developed the whole Mad Moxxi facade façade just so she can cope with the necessity of living on [[DeathWorld Pandora]].
** The ShipTease between Moxxi and Torgue. Both were introduced to the Borderlandsverse in a DLC and played a key part as questgivers quest-givers in a later DLC: Moxxi with ''1''[='=]s ''Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot'' and ''The Secret Armory of General Knoxx'' and Torgue with ''Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage'' and ''Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep''.



** Role-playing was originally created for psychological treatment. The DLC is basically all about her complete denial over Roland's death.

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** Role-playing was originally created for psychological treatment. The DLC is basically all about her Tina's complete denial over Roland's death.death in the main game.



** Bloodwing's DeusExMachina. Take a close look at the blasts from Bloodwing's four collisions (once with the projectile, three times with the Sorcerer himself.) Orange. Green. Blue. Purple. While not occurring in the order of her boss fight phases, they line up with her ''elemental'' colors from the fight; purple for Slag, orange for Fire, blue for Electric, and green for Corrosive. Makes you wonder what might have been if Bloodwing's collar had been disarmed.

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** Bloodwing's DeusExMachina. Take a close look at the blasts from Bloodwing's four collisions (once with the projectile, three times with the Sorcerer himself.) Orange. Green. Blue. Purple. While not occurring in the order of her boss fight phases, they line up with her ''elemental'' colors from her BossFight in the fight; main game: purple for Slag, orange for Fire, blue for Electric, and green for Corrosive. Makes you wonder what might have been if Bloodwing's collar had been disarmed.



* Two of the best Slag weapons in the game (if not ''the'' two best) are the Slagga and the Grog Nozzle. They also share two other traits: [[InterfaceScrew they screw your screen as if your character got drunk]], and they're related to mission chains involving alcohol/drinking[[note]]You get the Slagga as a boss reward if you side with the Zafords, who own a pub and (as seen in ''Mad Moxxi's Wedding Day Massacre'') a distillery, during "Clan War", and Claptrap gives you the Grog Nozzle during his first mission chain in ''Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep'' in a mission that involves getting dwarves drunk[[/note]]. Considering how powerful Slag becomes in [[HarderThanHard Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode]], it's safe to say that, with these weapons, you become DrunkWithPower.

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* Two of the best Slag weapons in the game (if not ''the'' two best) are the Slagga and the Grog Nozzle. They also share two other traits: [[InterfaceScrew they screw your screen as if your character got drunk]], and they're related to mission chains involving alcohol/drinking[[note]]You get the Slagga as a boss reward if you side with the Zafords, who own a pub and (as seen in ''Mad Moxxi's Wedding Day Massacre'') a distillery, during "Clan War", and Claptrap gives you the Grog Nozzle during his first mission chain in ''Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep'' in a mission that involves getting dwarves drunk[[/note]]. Considering how powerful Slag becomes in [[HarderThanHard Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode]], it's safe to say that, with these weapons, you ''literally'' become DrunkWithPower.
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** He only offers two unique items, the Lucrative Opportunity and the the Evil Smasher. The former is a special relic that shortens the item respawn timers on vending machines, and the latter is mostly a JokeItem with a small, random chance to suddenly become a LethalJokeItem for one magazine. Only the latter of the two rewards is worth much and only because [[GoodBadBugs/Borderlands2 a glitch used to exist]] that [[GameBreaker snapped any difficulty in the game over its knee]][[note]]it really was that powerful -- applied properly, it would let you melt ''[[BonusBoss Terramorphous]]'' in under a second with an Infinity Pistol, for instance[[/note]]. If played straight, Marcus' quests largely aren't worth the effort. Why? Marcus is TheScrooge. He isn't going to give away good merchandise for free if he can help it.

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** He only offers two unique items, the Lucrative Opportunity and the the Evil Smasher. The former is a special relic that shortens the item respawn timers on vending machines, and the latter is mostly a JokeItem with a small, random chance to suddenly become a LethalJokeItem for one magazine. Only the latter of the two rewards is worth much and only because [[GoodBadBugs/Borderlands2 a glitch used to exist]] that [[GameBreaker snapped any difficulty in the game over its knee]][[note]]it really was that powerful -- applied properly, it would let you melt ''[[BonusBoss ''[[OptionalBoss Terramorphous]]'' in under a second with an Infinity Pistol, for instance[[/note]]. If played straight, Marcus' quests largely aren't worth the effort. Why? Marcus is TheScrooge. He isn't going to give away good merchandise for free if he can help it.



** Piston keeps repeating how he's [[TheAce the number one]] throughout the entire DLC... however, the only thing he does after becoming the champion is keeping the player from reaching him. In contrast, Pyro Pete, Motor Momma and Flyboy all subject the player to a trial of some kind and then actually ''face'' the player without any excuses once said trial is completed. Piston, on the other hand, spends the entirety of the DLC placing obstacle after obstacle and staining the player's name and reputation. And when the time comes to face the player, he hides behind a huge mechanical dinosaur... And once ''that'' is destroyed, he's forced to face the player one-on-one. Contrast him to Pete again, who just faces you man to man, and eventually becomes the DLC's BonusBoss. Piston truly ''is'' the Ultimate Coward.

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** Piston keeps repeating how he's [[TheAce the number one]] throughout the entire DLC... however, the only thing he does after becoming the champion is keeping the player from reaching him. In contrast, Pyro Pete, Motor Momma and Flyboy all subject the player to a trial of some kind and then actually ''face'' the player without any excuses once said trial is completed. Piston, on the other hand, spends the entirety of the DLC placing obstacle after obstacle and staining the player's name and reputation. And when the time comes to face the player, he hides behind a huge mechanical dinosaur... And once ''that'' is destroyed, he's forced to face the player one-on-one. Contrast him to Pete again, who just faces you man to man, and eventually becomes the DLC's BonusBoss.OptionalBoss. Piston truly ''is'' the Ultimate Coward.
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Bloodwing's miraculous salvation in Assault on Dragon's Keep. The colors of those blasts looked very brilliant.

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** Bloodwing's DeusExMachina. Take a close look at the blasts from Bloodwing's four collisions (once with the projectile, three times with the Sorcerer himself.) Orange. Green. Blue. Purple. While not occurring in the order of her boss fight phases, they line up with her ''elemental'' colors from the fight; purple for Slag, orange for Fire, blue for Electric, and green for Corrosive. Makes you wonder what might have been if Bloodwing's collar had been disarmed.
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** You can pick up pin-up portraits of Moxxi. These do not show up in your backpack and have no importance to the plot. So why are you collecting them? [[IllBeInMyBunk Rea]][[ADateWithRosiePalms sons.]]

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** You can pick up pin-up portraits of Moxxi. These do not show up in your backpack and have no importance to the plot. So why are you collecting them? [[IllBeInMyBunk Rea]][[ADateWithRosiePalms sons.Reasons.]]
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This wick involving What You Are In The Dark is a total misuse; that trope is about a character contemplating an immoral act for personal gain that basically nobody will find out about. This entry is talking about Moxxi having an accent in private which is not this trope at all. Removing this entirely since I can't find an appropriate trope to replace it with.


** Piston keeps repeating how he's [[TheAce the number one]] throughout the entire DLC, however the only thing he's been doing is to keep the player from reaching him. In contrast, Pyro Pete, Motor Momma and Flyboy subject the player to a trial, and actually ''face'' the player without any excuse once said trial is completed. Piston, on the other hand, spent the entirety of the DLC placing obstacle after obstacle and staining the player's name and reputation. And when the time comes to face the player, he hides behind a huge mechanic dinosaur... And once ''that'' is destroyed, he's forced to face the player one-on-one. Contrast Pete again, who just faces you man to man, and eventually becomes the DLC's BonusBoss. Piston truly ''is'' the Ultimate Coward.

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** Piston keeps repeating how he's [[TheAce the number one]] throughout the entire DLC, however DLC... however, the only thing he's been doing he does after becoming the champion is to keep keeping the player from reaching him. In contrast, Pyro Pete, Motor Momma and Flyboy all subject the player to a trial, trial of some kind and then actually ''face'' the player without any excuse excuses once said trial is completed. Piston, on the other hand, spent spends the entirety of the DLC placing obstacle after obstacle and staining the player's name and reputation. And when the time comes to face the player, he hides behind a huge mechanic mechanical dinosaur... And once ''that'' is destroyed, he's forced to face the player one-on-one. Contrast him to Pete again, who just faces you man to man, and eventually becomes the DLC's BonusBoss. Piston truly ''is'' the Ultimate Coward.



** Moxxi states that her innuendos are a defense mechanism after making a distasteful joke involving a cannibal literally eating her old girlfriend. In ''The Pre-Sequel!'' we learn that, [[WhatYouAreInTheDark when not in public, she reverts to the same Hodunk speak like her children]]. Since almost all of her interactions have you go out and kill someone, it means that she developed the whole Mad Moxxi facade just so she can cope with the necessity of living on [[DeathWorld Pandora]].

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** Moxxi states that her innuendos are a defense mechanism after making a distasteful joke involving a cannibal literally eating her old girlfriend. In ''The Pre-Sequel!'' we learn that, [[WhatYouAreInTheDark when not in public, she reverts to the same Hodunk speak like her children]].children. Since almost all of her interactions have you go out and kill someone, it means that she developed the whole Mad Moxxi facade just so she can cope with the necessity of living on [[DeathWorld Pandora]].

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* The Lab Rats' eyes have mutated so that ''something'' is strangely otherworldly about their eyes. They can project strange energy from their eyes, and they can also see something that has [[GoMadFromTheRevelation driven them quite insane.]] If you're playing Maya, when you Phaselock them, ''they see it more''. Now, Siren powers are all based on phasing things into another dimension. They're seeing into another dimension... The same one that Sirens can access, which may be where [[EldritchAbomination The Destroyer]] is from.

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eyes have mutated so that ''something'' is strangely otherworldly about their eyes. They can project strange energy from their eyes, and they can also see something that has [[GoMadFromTheRevelation driven them quite insane.]] If you're playing Maya, when you Phaselock them, ''they see it more''. Now, Siren powers are all based on phasing things into another dimension. They're seeing into another dimension... The same one that Sirens can access, which may be where [[EldritchAbomination The Destroyer]] is from.from.
** They are mentioned to be "genetic abominations created by Hyperion", via a tip in the menu screen. What is Hyperion known for doing other than gun-manufacturing and being douchebags? ''Slag mutation.''
** Their true origins in ''The Pre-Sequel!'' is even worse. Prior to that game, there was an area in Helios Station (the Veins of Helios) which was left unfinished due to a deadly parasitic disease (Space Hurps) infecting thousands of Hyperion workers, making them cannibalistic. Then that game's Vault Hunters performed several missions on the Quarantined area under Tassiter's orders. This meant that the disease now got transmitted to several areas of the space station. And from them, back to Pandora.



* The fact that there is a skeletal arm in Herbert's StalkerShrine to Captain Scarlett. Whose arm is it? Well...the Captain herself is missing an arm. How he ''got'' it is another question entirely.
* What if Krieg's inner voice isn't unique to him? What if every psycho you fight has their own inner voice begging them to stop trying to kill you, and is silenced by your bullets?
* The Hyperion Morningstar sniper rifle [[YouBastard berates the player]] in the tone of a shrill, crabby old woman. Where did Handsome Jack get the idea and tone for this firearm? To Grandmother's House We Go suggests his grandmother was extremely cruel and abusive to him.
* Tiny Tina being incredibly sure that Roland is going to show up any minute at the game table is already sad... and then it's revealed in the climax that she knew the entire time that he was dead, and was trying to give him a happy ending in her story. This raises the question: How much of her psychosis is genuine, and how much is a desperate act meant to put on a happy face? Especially if you consider this is the second time she's lost a parental figure in her life...

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The fact that there is a skeletal arm in Herbert's StalkerShrine to Captain Scarlett. Whose arm is it? Well...the Captain herself is missing an arm. How he ''got'' it is another question entirely.
** One of the the jokes Shade's comedian "friend" tells you is "What did the dying man say to the other dying man? Don't attach an ECHO recorder to my corpse and pretend I'm still alive!" This implies Shade was doing his OfCorpseHesAlive routine ''before'' everyone in Oasis was dead.
** The sand pirates take shelter within the hulks of derelict ships, all of which look like they were flying through the air and crashed into mountains. Magny's Lighthouse, in particular, is colossal, and possibly the tallest point on Pandora that you can reach. But then it hits you: when the Vault of the Destroyer was opened (or something), it caused a massive climate shift. The desert you're skimming across was originally ''a sea bed'', and just like Captain Flynt's Soaring Dragon, those ships crashed into those mountains because the sea instantly dried up.
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What if Krieg's inner voice isn't unique to him? What if every psycho you fight has their own inner voice begging them to stop trying to kill you, and is silenced by your bullets?
** Krieg's entire existence paints a very disturbing picture of what it might be like for people who turn into Psychos. Every single one of those screaming, batshit {{Mooks}} that you chewed through like so much gum could've very well been completely rational and good people before Pandora made them completely lose it. Also, try not to think about how [[AndIMustScream some of them might still have their original psyches around]], trying desperately to be heard through the insanity spewing from their mouth.
* "To Grandmother's House We Go", a sidequest in Eridium Blidge related to Jack's grandmother:
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The Hyperion Morningstar sniper rifle you get as a reward for completing "Hyperion Contract #873" [[YouBastard berates the player]] in the tone of a shrill, crabby old woman. Where did Handsome Jack get the idea and tone for this firearm? To Grandmother's House We Go This sidequest suggests his grandmother was [[AbusiveParents extremely cruel and abusive to him.
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** A small one is where Jack's grandma's body ended up. Next to the bed are a few burlap sacks. You also find the "disciplinary tool" on the bed, which is a buzzSAW axe.
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Tiny Tina being incredibly sure that Roland is going to show up any minute at the game table is already sad... and then it's revealed in the climax that she knew the entire time that he was dead, and was trying to give him a happy ending in her story. This raises the question: How much of her psychosis is genuine, and how much is a desperate act meant to put on a happy face? Especially if you consider this is the second time she's lost a parental figure in her life...life...
** At one point, during the "Post-Crumpocalyptic" sidequest chain, Tina reveals that she's been living exclusively off of crumpets for the last few years and has no plans to change that. This may have been PlayedForLaughs, but considering that her parents are dead and, by the time the DLC takes place, Roland is too, it takes a much darker tone if you know that people with post-traumatic stress disorder occasionally develop eating disorders.
** A mild example: Torgue briefly takes over as gatekeeper when he wants to be part of Tiny Tina's game. After a few nonsensical tasks, he's quickly relocated to the stocks and the normal gatekeeper is back. Said gatekeeper turns out to be the Handsome Sorcerer all along. It would have been pretty awkward to have ''Torgue'' be the Handsome Sorcerer's disguise.



* During the Out of Body Experience quest, you help a destroyed Hyperion Robot put its AI core into a new body. If loaders can be destroyed, but their AI cores salvaged and reused, maybe ALL the loaders you face later in the game are reincarnations of the ones you already destroyed. Not only are you facing an immortal enemy, but you're also facing an army of immortal enemies that probably get more and more vengeful with every battle. How long until every loader in existence is out to kill you?

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* During the Out "Out of Body Experience Experience" quest, you help a destroyed Hyperion Robot put its AI core into a new body. If loaders can be destroyed, but their AI cores salvaged and reused, maybe ALL the loaders you face later in the game are reincarnations of the ones you already destroyed. Not only are you facing an immortal enemy, but you're also facing an army of immortal enemies that probably get more and more vengeful with every battle. How long until every loader in existence is out to kill you?



** In the side mission where Claptrap reveals his secret stash, one of the objectives his gives you is to defeat a badass skag. But what the actual objective list says is "Defeat Ug-Thak, Lord of Skags". Maybe it's not just the UI being a wiseass, and there actually is/was such a creature.

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** In the main game's side mission where Claptrap reveals his secret stash, one of the objectives his gives you is to defeat a badass skag. But what the actual objective list says is "Defeat Ug-Thak, Lord of Skags". Maybe it's not just the UI being a wiseass, and there actually is/was such a creature.



* A small one during "To Grandmother's House We Go" Quest is where Jack's grandma's body ended up. Next to the bed are a few burlap sacks. You also find the "disciplinary tool" on the bed, which is a buzzSAW axe.
* All of the enemies on Digistruct Peak are, naturally, digistructed. Including all of the organic ones. Given what we saw when putting vehicles in the Digistruct system, where did Tannis get all of that Digistruct data? [[BodyHorror And what did the organic creatures' "dismantling" look like]]?
** On top of that, every time you respawn or teleport via fast travel stations, that's probably happening to you, too.
* During the whole Monster Mash questline, you are tasked with collecting Spiderant parts, Rakk parts and Skag parts. But you never find out where Zed got the "other" parts for the Spycho, since the Rakk and Skag parts went into the Skrakks. Well, remember that Hyperion guy he was operating on when you first arrived in Sanctuary? The one who you melee'd to death by accident and acted a lot like a psycho...
** At the tail end of the quest, you have to kill monsters created by Dr. Zed after you bring him parts of Spiderants, Rakk and Skag. This resulted in [[MixAndMatchCritter Skrakk (skag/rakk hybrids)]], and [[BodyHorror Spycho, spiderant/psycho hybrid]]. Watch their bodies when they die. They dissipate into digistruct particles. This means that there's more to digistruct technology than just building vehicles and guns and New-U.
* One of the New-U station quotes implies that digistruct data can be corrupted, resulting in extra limbs and other kind of BodyHorror.
* The Lab Rats are mentioned to be "genetic abominations created by Hyperion", via a tip in the menu screen. What is Hyperion known for doing other than gun-manufacturing and being douchebags? ''Slag mutation.''
** Their true origins in ''The Pre-Sequel'' is even worse.
* One of the the jokes Shade's comedian "friend" tells you in the Captain Scarlett DLC is "What did the dying man say to the other dying man? Don't attach an ECHO recorder to my corpse and pretend I'm still alive!" This implies Shade was doing his OfCorpseHesAlive routine ''before'' everyone in Oasis was dead.
* In the ''Assault on Dragon Keep'' DLC, Tiny Tina reveals that she's been living exclusively off of crumpets for the last few years and has no plans to change that. This may have been PlayedForLaughs, but considering that her parents are dead, and by the time the DLC takes place Roland is too, it takes a much darker tone if you know that people with post-traumatic stress disorder occasionally develop eating disorders.
* Krieg's entire existence paints a very disturbing picture of what it might be like for people who turn into Psychos. Every single one of those screaming, batshit {{Mooks}} that you chewed through like so much gum could've very well been completely rational and good people before Pandora made them completely lose it. Also, try not to think about how [[AndIMustScream some of them might still have their original psyches around]], trying desperately to be heard through the insanity spewing from their mouth.
* The sand pirates from the ''Captain Scarlett'' DLC all take shelter within the hulks of derelict ships, all of which look like they were flying through the air and crashed into mountains. The Magnys Lighthouse, in particular, is colossal and possibly the tallest point on Pandora that you can reach. But then it hits you; when the Vault of the Destroyer was opened (or something), it caused a massive climate shift. The desert you're skimming across was originally ''a sea bed'', and just like Captain Flynt's Soaring Dragon, those ships crashed into those mountains because the sea instantly dried up.

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* A small one during "To Grandmother's House We Go" Quest is where Jack's grandma's body ended up. Next to the bed are a few burlap sacks. You also find the "disciplinary tool" on the bed, which is a buzzSAW axe.
* All of the enemies on Digistruct Peak are, naturally, digistructed. Including all of the organic ones. Given what we saw when putting vehicles in the Digistruct system, where did Tannis get all of that Digistruct data? [[BodyHorror And what did the organic creatures' "dismantling" look like]]?
** On top of that, every time you respawn or teleport via fast travel stations, that's probably happening to you, too.
* During the whole Monster Mash "Monster Mash" questline, you are tasked with collecting Spiderant parts, Rakk parts and Skag parts. But you never find out where Zed got the "other" parts for the Spycho, since the Rakk and Skag parts went into the Skrakks. Well, remember that Hyperion guy he was operating on when you first arrived in Sanctuary? The one who you melee'd to death by accident and acted a lot like a psycho...
* Digistruction:
** All of the enemies on the Digistruct Peak are, naturally, digistructed. Including all of the organic ones. Given what we saw when putting vehicles in the Digistruct system, where did Tannis get all of that Digistruct data? [[BodyHorror And what did the organic creatures' "dismantling" look like]]?
** Every time you respawn or teleport via fast travel stations, that's probably happening to you, too.
** At the tail end of the main game's "Monster Mash" quest, you have to kill monsters created by Dr. Zed after you bring him parts of Spiderants, Rakk and Skag. This resulted in [[MixAndMatchCritter Skrakk (skag/rakk hybrids)]], and [[BodyHorror Spycho, spiderant/psycho hybrid]]. Watch their bodies when they die. They dissipate into digistruct particles. This means that there's more to digistruct technology than just building vehicles and guns and New-U.
* ** One of the New-U station quotes implies that digistruct data can be corrupted, resulting in extra limbs and other kind of BodyHorror.
* The Lab Rats are mentioned to be "genetic abominations created by Hyperion", via a tip in the menu screen. What is Hyperion known for doing other than gun-manufacturing and being douchebags? ''Slag mutation.''
** Their true origins in ''The Pre-Sequel'' is even worse.
* One of the the jokes Shade's comedian "friend" tells you in the Captain Scarlett DLC is "What did the dying man say to the other dying man? Don't attach an ECHO recorder to my corpse and pretend I'm still alive!" This implies Shade was doing his OfCorpseHesAlive routine ''before'' everyone in Oasis was dead.
* In the ''Assault on Dragon Keep'' DLC, Tiny Tina reveals that she's been living exclusively off of crumpets for the last few years and has no plans to change that. This may have been PlayedForLaughs, but considering that her parents are dead, and by the time the DLC takes place Roland is too, it takes a much darker tone if you know that people with post-traumatic stress disorder occasionally develop eating disorders.
* Krieg's entire existence paints a very disturbing picture of what it might be like for people who turn into Psychos. Every single one of those screaming, batshit {{Mooks}} that you chewed through like so much gum could've very well been completely rational and good people before Pandora made them completely lose it. Also, try not to think about how [[AndIMustScream some of them might still have their original psyches around]], trying desperately to be heard through the insanity spewing from their mouth.
* The sand pirates from the ''Captain Scarlett'' DLC all take shelter within the hulks of derelict ships, all of which look like they were flying through the air and crashed into mountains. The Magnys Lighthouse, in particular, is colossal and possibly the tallest point on Pandora that you can reach. But then it hits you; when the Vault of the Destroyer was opened (or something), it caused a massive climate shift. The desert you're skimming across was originally ''a sea bed'', and just like Captain Flynt's Soaring Dragon, those ships crashed into those mountains because the sea instantly dried up.
BodyHorror.



* In ''Campaign of Carnage'', Tina asks you to get an autograph from Sully the Stabber, her third favorite mass-murderer. After being rejected, Tina asks you to kill him violently and bring her his head instead. At the end of the quest, she says that her all time favorite mass-murderer is you. The implications point to it being a ''very'' bad idea to get on Tina's bad side.

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* In ''Campaign ''Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage'', Tina asks you to get an autograph from Sully the Stabber, her third favorite mass-murderer. After being rejected, Tina asks you to kill him violently and bring her his head instead. At the end of the quest, she says that her all time favorite mass-murderer is you. The implications point to it being a ''very'' bad idea to get on Tina's bad side.



* A mild example: In the ''Assault on Dragon Keep'' DLC, Torgue briefly takes over as gatekeeper when he wants to be part of Tiny Tina's game. After a few nonsensical tasks, he's quickly relocated to the stocks and the normal gatekeeper is back. Said gatekeeper turns out to be the Handsome Sorcerer all along. It would have been pretty awkward to have ''Torgue'' be the Handsome Sorcerer's disguise.

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** Alternatively, the Sawtooth Bandits had their own air force of Buzzards, and it'd be too costly men and material wise to simply wage an air war over Sawtooth territory. Better to send in a group to sabotage Mortar's buzzard (he could possibly be genuine boss material when flying it, similar to the ''Pre-Sequel''[='=]s RK-5 gunship), break in through the landing pad, and wreck merry hell on their airpower so that the Slabs could send in some buzzards of their own to make off with the explosives.

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** Alternatively, the Sawtooth Bandits had their own air force of Buzzards, and it'd be too costly men and material wise to simply wage an air war over Sawtooth territory. Better to send in a group to sabotage Mortar's buzzard (he could possibly be genuine boss material when flying it, similar to the ''Pre-Sequel''[='=]s ''The Pre-Sequel!''[='=]s RK-5 gunship), break in through the landing pad, and wreck merry hell on their airpower so that the Slabs could send in some buzzards of their own to make off with the explosives.



* Every time Claptrap has problems opening a plot-critical door, it seems like simple RuleOfFunny to show off how hopelessly incompetent and useless Claptrap is. Quite the opposite -- he can't open the crashed drop barge in the Windshear Waste because Jack locked it down specifically to have Angel help the Vault Hunters and gain their trust and when confronted with the door to Hero's Pass, Claptrap is facing Hyperion's best security measures, designed specifically knowing he would be trying to open it. This turns a frustrating apparent failure into Claptrap's SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when ''he overrides the security measures and opens it anyway.'' Which would explain why the door directly leads to a flight of stairs, as it ensures that Claptrap can't hack anything beyond this point.

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* Every time Claptrap has problems opening a plot-critical door, it seems like simple RuleOfFunny to show off how hopelessly incompetent and useless Claptrap is. Quite the opposite -- he can't open the crashed drop barge in the Windshear Waste because Jack locked it down specifically to have Angel help the Vault Hunters and gain their trust and when confronted with the door to Hero's Pass, Claptrap is facing Hyperion's best security measures, designed specifically knowing he would be trying to open it. This turns a frustrating apparent failure into Claptrap's SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when ''he overrides the security measures and opens it anyway.'' Which would explain why the door directly leads to [[WeaksauceWeakness a flight of stairs, stairs]], as it ensures that Claptrap can't hack anything beyond this point.



** At one point, during the Rakk-ale quest, Mordecai reveals he was temporarily married to Moxxi in between the games. This may seem to have come out of nowhere, but, Moxxi has a confirmed taste in strong men and, more to the point, specifically appeared for the first time running Moxxi's Underdome in hopes of finding a man badass enough to take as her next husband. It only makes ''sense'' that one of the previous games' Vault Hunters would have been her first choice for Mr. Right #4.
** Stemming on from the above, why would Moxxi dump Mordecai and hook up with Handsome Jack? Multiple reasons. Firstly, though the player is LateToTheParty, Handsome Jack was originally a VillainWithGoodPublicity; naturally, Moxxi's eye would be attracted to a man who was handsome and seemingly heroic. Secondly, Moxxi has well-established GoldDigger traits; an incredibly wealthy and powerful CEO in Hyperion Corporation would be very attractive, compared to a vagabond bounty hunter. Thirdly, Moxxi is used to always being the center of attention -- but with Mordecai comes Bloodwing, Mordecai's beloved pet and ally, who already needs regular care and attention to fulfill her role as Mordecai's battlefield partner. As Moxxi makes clear during the Rakk Ale sidequest, she resented the fact she had to share Mordecai's attention with Bloodwing. Put all these together, and it's no wonder that Moxxi divorced Mordecai and tried hooking up with Handsome Jack... until she realized he was a [[BitchInSheepsClothing Psycho with a nice-guy façade]].

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** At one point, When Mordecai gives you the "The Good, The Bad and The Mordecai" sidequest, he reveals that [[CuttingOffTheBranches he was the winner of the Underdome challenge]], getting a huge weapon cache and Moxxi herself (who he later married, as revealed during the Rakk-ale quest, Mordecai reveals he was temporarily married to Moxxi in between the games. "Rakkaholics Anonymous" sidequest) as reward. This may seem to have come out of nowhere, but, however, Moxxi has a confirmed taste in strong men and, more to the point, specifically appeared for the first time running Moxxi's Underdome in hopes of finding a man badass enough to take as her next husband. It only makes ''sense'' that one of the previous games' Vault Hunters would have been her first choice for Mr. Right #4.
** Stemming on from the above, why would Moxxi dump Mordecai and hook up with Handsome Jack? Multiple reasons. Firstly, though the player is LateToTheParty, prior to the events of ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', Handsome Jack was originally a VillainWithGoodPublicity; naturally, Moxxi's eye would be attracted to a man who was both handsome and seemingly heroic. Secondly, Moxxi has well-established GoldDigger traits; an incredibly wealthy and powerful CEO in Hyperion Corporation would be very attractive, compared to a vagabond bounty hunter. Thirdly, Moxxi is used to always being the center of attention -- but with Mordecai comes Bloodwing, Mordecai's beloved pet and ally, who already needs regular care and attention to fulfill her role as Mordecai's battlefield partner. As Moxxi makes clear during the Rakk Ale sidequest, "Rakkaholics Anonymous", she resented the fact she had to share Mordecai's attention with Bloodwing. Put all these together, and it's no wonder that Moxxi divorced Mordecai and tried hooking up with Handsome Jack... until she realized he Jack was a [[BitchInSheepsClothing Psycho with a nice-guy façade]].

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