History Fridge / Berserk

22nd Aug '16 3:28:53 PM Universalist
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** Griffith confronting Guts on his leaving. In the first anime, he doesn't seem like himself at all. He looks very psychotic, [[HellishPupils his eyes look almost like [[spoiler: Femto's after his resurrection in the mortal world]] ]]. He doesn't even bother trying to change Guts' mind, and his attacking Guts instead of waiting Guts to strike so he can counterattack like he always does all feel out of character for him.

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** Griffith confronting Guts on his leaving. In the first anime, he doesn't seem like himself at all. He looks very psychotic, [[HellishPupils his eyes look almost like [[spoiler: Femto's after his resurrection in the mortal world]] ]].world]]]]. He doesn't even bother trying to change Guts' mind, and his attacking Guts instead of waiting Guts to strike so he can counterattack like he always does all feel out of character for him.
20th Aug '16 8:15:46 AM Robergestudios
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* Even though Rosine and Jill were best friends, and Rosine wanted to take Jill with her to her next CrapSaccharineWorld, she most likely did it so [[spoiler: that she may sacrifice Jill to the Godhand to renew her life since she was losing badly against Guts]].
16th Aug '16 6:00:52 PM PurpleAlert
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** Femto's conversation with [[spoiler: The Idea of Evil]] implies that Griffith's rise to power has been orchestrated for countless generations, his entire ancestry carefully arranged to eventually produce him, specifically, so that he would be the ideal candidate to become [[spoiler: Femto]] into the first place. For a being that exists outside of time and is the only real godlike figure in the story, that's not the fridge horror part. The fridge horror part is the fact that this not only means that the Band of the Hawk only ever existed be the cobbles of Griffith's road, it means all its soldiers, and their entire lives, were orchestrated in the same way and for the same reason. All the awful things they experience, particularly Guts and Casca's childhoods, were all just devised to be the meal that fattened Griffith for the slaughter. And the ''worst'' part? This is implied to have happened before, with Void and Skull Knight, ''who saved Guts and Casca from the Eclipse''. So much suffering, designed to explain suffering itself, just to keep escalating in a horrible, horrible upward spiral. If [[spoiler: The Idea of Evil]] exists to provide a reason for the suffering of humanity because that's what humanity needs, it's only natural that we ''want'' everything to be part of a divine plan, and the God Hand makes references to this more than once... but they never said the divine plan leads to humanity's redemption.
16th Aug '16 4:02:50 AM PurpleAlert
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* The Eclipse has a... well, ''nice'' isn't the word, but a skillful and subtle CallBack when Guts is pinned down by the Apostles: face down, one arm rendered useless and held behind his back, the other reaching desperately to attack but falling ''just barely'' short of the goal? That's the same position Donovan had him in as a child. Some people might find it diminishes Casca's trauma to say that Guts was raped alongside her in that scene, since the aftereffects and the act itself had far, far worse results for her than him, but that ''is'' the intended parallel. Watching Casca's assault and being utterly powerless to stop it is horrible, but it's that much worse for Guts because he knows exactly what's happening to her, how it feels to be betrayed and violated and all the while hoping that the only person you thought you could trust will save you... and they don't. He's not ''just'' watching his best friend commit the most vile act imaginable, he's reliving the worst moment of his life. ''That'' is why Casca tells him not to watch. She knows what's going through his mind, and that's what she does with her last act as a sane, rational woman: she tries to protect him from it in the only way she can.
10th Aug '16 4:25:19 AM DivineDeath
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* So, after [[ScheduleSlip eight years]], they finally made it off the boat. Sounds like a reason to celebrate, right? Well, think again! They can't just stay on the island forever! Eventually, they'll have to get [[ArcFatigue right back on the boat]]!
6th Aug '16 1:16:22 AM DivineDeath
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** Maybe, maybe not. After Guts and company chased off the trolls, the villagers voiced interest in erecting a shrine to the river spirit, so they might have the protection of a more benign entity whose presence has only gotten stronger in the wake of the calamity.
4th Aug '16 11:04:26 AM kyokutonomajo
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* The village of Enoch was saved from swarms of trolls by the combined efforts of Guts' group, the Qliphoth was sealed meaning the trolls wouldn't return, and considering that this is ''Berserk'', everyone got a happy ending there, right? Well, what about [[InferredHolocaust after Femto fuses all the realms?]]

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* The village of Enoch was saved from swarms of trolls by the combined efforts of Guts' group, the Qliphoth was sealed meaning the trolls wouldn't return, and considering that this is ''Berserk'', everyone [[EarnYourHappyEnding got a happy ending there, right? right?]] Well, what about [[InferredHolocaust after Femto fuses all the realms?]]
4th Aug '16 11:03:35 AM kyokutonomajo
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*** Actually, the afterlife shown in Berserk isnt Hell per se, its more similar to The Land Of the Dead seen in, say, Greek Mythology, or Norse Mythology. Its not Heaven, but it isnt FireAndBrimstoneHell either. Its a land of shadows, no more, no less.

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**** Although, if I recall correctly, the God Hand tell the Count that over time, his soul would lose its sense of self and basically just "dissolve" in the maelstrom, so it seems like Guts, when/if he gets there, would only have very recently killed Apostles wanting to re-kill him.
*** Actually, the afterlife shown in Berserk isnt isn't Hell per se, its more similar to The Land Of the Dead seen in, say, Greek Mythology, or Norse Mythology. Its not Heaven, but it isnt isn't FireAndBrimstoneHell either. Its a land of shadows, no more, no less.



* Do you think that if Guts never left the Hawks so Griffith wouldn't have slept with Charlotte, the Hawks wouldn't be outlawed and there wouldn't be any horrible things like Griffit's torture or Eclipse? Right? Wrong. Ganishka was prepearing the invasion to Berserkverse's equivalent of Europe al the time! What did the Midlanders have agains his army? Pretty standart knights and infantry. The Kushans, on the other hand had loads of sorcerers, magically enhanced SuperSoldiers and beasts. It would be eventually a CurbStompBattle for the "Europeans" if the reborn Griffith hadn't united them and hadn't made a pact with Apostles. And he couls do it only after his transformation into Femto. So basically, everyone would have died horribly and all Midland, Tudor, etc. would have been enslaved by Kushans if Griffith hadn't crossed the MoralEventHorizon. Brr...

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* Do you think that if Guts never left the Hawks so Griffith wouldn't have slept with Charlotte, the Hawks wouldn't be outlawed and there wouldn't be any horrible things like Griffit's Griffith's torture or Eclipse? Right? Wrong. Ganishka was prepearing preparing the invasion to Berserkverse's equivalent of Europe al the time! What did the Midlanders have agains his army? Pretty standart standard knights and infantry. The Kushans, on the other hand had loads of sorcerers, magically enhanced SuperSoldiers and beasts. It would be eventually a CurbStompBattle for the "Europeans" if the reborn Griffith hadn't united them and hadn't made a pact with Apostles. And he couls could do it only after his transformation into Femto. So basically, everyone would have died horribly and all Midland, Tudor, etc. would have been enslaved by Kushans if Griffith hadn't crossed the MoralEventHorizon. Brr...


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* The village of Enoch was saved from swarms of trolls by the combined efforts of Guts' group, the Qliphoth was sealed meaning the trolls wouldn't return, and considering that this is ''Berserk'', everyone got a happy ending there, right? Well, what about [[InferredHolocaust after Femto fuses all the realms?]]
1st Aug '16 1:38:34 AM DivineDeath
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* Why are the Daka subject to TheWorfEffect even though Ganishka treats them like a hidden trump card against the apostles? Simply put, because they're not; they're a failed vanity project that consumes too many (human) resources to ever be an effective fighting force. The Daka are Ganishka's attempt to create creatures infused with evil like apostles, but whom are loyal to him. But in the end, just as the man-made Behelit needed to make them is little more than a crude imitation of what real Behelits and the God Hand are capable of, so too are the Daka. They look fearsome, they fight like animals, but they're barely stronger than regular human soldiers. They never stood a chance against a legion of real demons.
30th Jul '16 11:28:53 PM DivineDeath
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* Imagine what it looks like under Guts [[EyeScream post-Eclipse right eyelid]].
** Imagine the fate of Guts severed arm after he cut it off to escape some demon who had grabbed him in its mouth refusing to let go.
** The fate of Casca and Guts had the Skull Knight not arrived to rescue them.

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* Imagine what it looks like under Guts [[EyeScream post-Eclipse right eyelid]].
** Imagine the fate of Guts severed arm after he cut it off to escape some demon who had grabbed him in its mouth refusing to let go.
** The fate of Casca and Guts had the Skull Knight not arrived to rescue them.
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