History Fridge / Berserk

18th Jan '17 3:23:17 PM wedward
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* Berserk 347 ends with Schierke and Farnese entering the deeper layers of Casca's consciousness as part of the Queen of the Flower Storm's ritual... with the last panel showing a black sun. Meaning that the two are about to experience the [[OhCrap fifth Eclipse]] [[ThisIsGonnaSuck first-hand]].
4th Jan '17 8:49:13 PM RaisenRhaasen
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** Aparently, that was an old battlefield.

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** Aparently, Apparently, that was an old battlefield.



* Here's the thing about the whole [[spoiler: merging of the worlds so that dragins, merpeople and other creatures exist in the world of Berserk]]. Initially, I thought that it was very unlike Miura to include such cliched concepts in the unique world of Berserk which contained such a different mythos than other western works of fiction with the Apostles and God-hand etc... but then somebody told me that it was SUPPOSED to be cliche because since [[spoiler: the Idea of evil was brought about by the collective consciousness of humanity wanting a reason for their suffering]], it made sense that [[spoiler: tthe creatures of the astral realm should also be conjured by humanity's consciousness and made physical by Femto's actions]]. So it's best not to think of Berserk becoming a generic fantasy story but just being invaded by the [[spoiler: dreams of the people living in Berserk's world]].

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* Here's the thing about the whole [[spoiler: merging of the worlds so that dragins, dragons, merpeople and other creatures exist in the world of Berserk]]. Initially, I thought that it was very unlike Miura to include such cliched concepts in the unique world of Berserk which contained such a different mythos than other western works of fiction with the Apostles and God-hand etc... but then somebody told me that it was SUPPOSED to be cliche because since [[spoiler: the Idea of evil was brought about by the collective consciousness of humanity wanting a reason for their suffering]], it made sense that [[spoiler: tthe creatures of the astral realm should also be conjured by humanity's consciousness and made physical by Femto's actions]]. So it's best not to think of Berserk becoming a generic fantasy story but just being invaded by the [[spoiler: dreams of the people living in Berserk's world]].
4th Jan '17 1:44:26 AM trixus
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* Becoming an Apostle doesn't hardened the heart, it just adds bloodlust to all the other emotions. Also all sacrifices shown are loved one that turned against the Apostle so not only is the chosen human desperate but angry at the person he sacrificed. So why are the Apostles so sadistic if their hearts never hardened? Because they just killed their MoralityPet and while some like the Count and Rosie found another one the other Apostles have nothing left but anger, grief and bloodlust to go on. Basically they are what would happen to Guts if the Berserker Armor makes him kill Casca.
10th Nov '16 4:35:28 AM Farnham
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* Berserk 347 ends with Schierke and Farnese entering the deeper layers of Casca's consciousness as part of the Queen of the Flower Storm's ritual... with the last panel showing a black sun. Meaning that the two are about to experience the [[OhCrap fifth Eclipse]] [[ThisIsGonnaSuck first-hand]].
10th Nov '16 4:19:47 AM Farnham
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* [[spoiler: So Berserk 343 is only furthering the LighterAndSofter movement the serie shas made with the cute dream sequence and Casca situation finally being dealt with? WRONG! The two women performing the ritual to rescue Casca both have intensive feeling for Gut's and whelst subtle and hidden have some resentment towards casca and would wish to have gut's for themselves. But they would get over their feeling and fix casca so the one they love can be happy. Well... [[GrimDark This]] [[DarkFantasy isn't]] [[CosmicHorrorStory One]] [[CrapSackWorld Those]] [[GodIsEvil series.]]]]

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* [[spoiler: So Berserk 343 is only furthering the LighterAndSofter movement the serie shas series has made with the cute dream sequence and Casca Casca's situation finally being dealt with? WRONG! The two women performing the ritual to rescue Casca both have intensive feeling for Gut's and whelst Guts and, whilst subtle and hidden hidden, have some resentment towards casca Casca and would wish to have gut's Guts for themselves. But they would get over their feeling and fix casca Casca so the one they love can be happy. Well... [[GrimDark This]] [[DarkFantasy isn't]] [[CosmicHorrorStory One]] one]] [[CrapSackWorld Those]] of those]] [[GodIsEvil series.]]]]
27th Oct '16 11:04:22 AM TheBigBopper
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** Griffith confronting Guts on his leaving. In the first anime, he doesn't seem like himself at all. He looks very psychotic, [[HellishPupils his eyes look almost like [[spoiler: Femto's after his resurrection in the mortal world]]]]. He doesn't even bother trying to change Guts' mind, and his attacking Guts instead of waiting Guts to strike so he can counterattack like he always does all feel out of character for him.

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** Griffith confronting Guts on his leaving. In the first anime, ''Anime/Berserk1997'', he doesn't seem like himself at all. He looks very psychotic, [[HellishPupils his eyes look almost like [[spoiler: Femto's after his resurrection in the mortal world]]]]. He doesn't even bother trying to change Guts' mind, and his attacking Guts instead of waiting Guts to strike so he can counterattack like he always does all feel out of character for him.
18th Oct '16 3:59:04 AM TitanFireFlies
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7th Oct '16 6:13:38 PM Drakeero
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* [[spoiler: Rosine is the EnfanteTerrible of all the apostles. Because Rosine is a ChildByRape her [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe father]] [[AbusiveParents hates and abuses her]]. This [[BreakTheCutie abuse combined with her innocent desire to belong and to be loved]] eventually [[DrivenToVilliany drives her to despair, to fall into escapist fantasy, and to choose to become an apostle to realize that fantasy]]. What she does as an apostle is horrible but [[AmbiguousMorality her culpability for her actions is questionable]] because of her [[FreudianExcuse childhood]] and [[ChildrenAreInnocent young age for an apostle]]. During her final battle with Guts Rosine repeatedly [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes repeatedly saves her friend]] Jill [[KickTheDog whom Guts repeatedly endangers in order to outmaneuver the apostle]]. Rosine gives up her fantasy upon meeting Puck and learning of real fairies and has but is ultimately denied a potential HeelFaceturn. Rosine even manages to begin [[DyingAsYourself reverting to her pre-apostle self]] as she genuinely regrets the choices she had made and wishes to just be a child with a family that loves her. The horror is that this now vulnerable child reverting back to her pre-apostle form was likely [[FateWorseThanDeath dragged down into a personal hell of eternal torment at the hands of all of her victims, including her father]].]]

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* [[spoiler: Rosine is the EnfanteTerrible of all the apostles. Because Rosine is a ChildByRape her [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe father]] [[AbusiveParents hates and abuses her]]. This [[BreakTheCutie abuse combined with her innocent desire to belong and to be loved]] eventually [[DrivenToVilliany [[DrivenToVillainy drives her to despair, to fall into escapist fantasy, and to choose to become an apostle to realize that fantasy]]. What she does as an apostle is horrible but [[AmbiguousMorality [[AmbiguousInnocence her culpability for her actions is questionable]] because of her [[FreudianExcuse childhood]] and [[ChildrenAreInnocent young age for an apostle]]. During her final battle with Guts Rosine repeatedly [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes repeatedly saves her friend]] Jill [[KickTheDog whom Guts repeatedly endangers in order to outmaneuver the apostle]]. Rosine gives up her fantasy upon meeting Puck and learning of real fairies and has but is ultimately denied a potential HeelFaceturn. Rosine even manages to begin [[DyingAsYourself reverting to her pre-apostle self]] as she genuinely regrets the choices she had made and wishes to just be a child with a family that loves her. The horror is that this now vulnerable child reverting back to her pre-apostle form was likely [[FateWorseThanDeath dragged down into a personal hell of eternal torment at the hands of all of her victims, including her father]].]]
7th Oct '16 6:09:45 PM Drakeero
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* [[spoiler: Rosine is the EnfanteTerrible of all the apostles. Because Rosine is a ChildByRape her [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe father]] [[AbusiveParents hates and abuses her]]. This [[BreakTheCutie abuse combined with her innocent desire to belong and to be loved]] eventually [[DrivenToVilliany drives her to despair, to fall into escapist fantasy, and to choose to become an apostle to realize that fantasy]]. What she does as an apostle is horrible but [[AmbiguousMorality her culpability for her actions is questionable]] because of her [[FreudianExcuse childhood]] and [[ChildrenAreInnocent young age for an apostle]]. During her final battle with Guts Rosine repeatedly [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes repeatedly saves her friend]] Jill [[KickTheDog whom Guts repeatedly endangers in order to outmaneuver the apostle]]. Rosine gives up her fantasy upon meeting Puck and learning of real fairies and has but is ultimately denied a potential HeelFaceturn. Rosine even manages to begin [[DyingAsYourself reverting to her pre-apostle self]] as she genuinely regrets the choices she had made and wishes to just be a child with a family that loves her. The horror is that this now vulnerable child reverting back to her pre-apostle form was likely [[FateWorseThanDeath dragged down into a personal hell of eternal torment at the hands of all of her victims, including her father]].]]
6th Oct '16 5:23:16 PM jokevv
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* [[spoiler: So Berserk 343 is only furthering the LighterAndSofter movement the serie shas made with the cute dream sequence and Casca situation finally being dealt with? WRONG! The two women performing the ritual to rescue Casca both have intensive feeling for Gut's and whelst subtle and hidden have some resentment towards casca and would wish to have gut's for themselves. But they would get over their feeling and fix casca so the one they love can be happy. Well... [[GrimDark This]] [[DarkFantasy isn't]] [[CosmicHorrorStory One]] [[CrapSackWorld Those]] [[GodIsEvil series.]]]]
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