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* We know that Terry's parents broke up prior to the start of the series, [[spoiler: but it's possible that the fact that neither Terry nor his brother resemble EITHER of his parents could have lead to suspicions of cheating on Mary's part, which itself could have been a major factor leading to the divorce.]] And anyone who's seen ''Epilogue'' knows that [[spoiler: neither parent was at all unfaithful. It was just that since the McGinnises were similar to Bruce's parents, they were chosen to have his reproductive data overwritten by Bruce's in an attempt to create a new Batman.]] In other words, simple bad luck could have caused this divorce.
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* We know that Terry's parents broke up prior to the start of the series, [[spoiler: but it's possible that the fact that neither Terry nor his brother resemble EITHER of his parents could have lead to suspicions of cheating on Mary's part, which itself could have been a major factor leading to the divorce.]] And anyone who's seen ''Epilogue'' knows that [[spoiler: neither parent was at all unfaithful. It was just that since the McGinnises [=McGinnises=] were similar to Bruce's parents, they were chosen to have his reproductive data overwritten by Bruce's in an attempt to create a new Batman.]] In other words, simple bad luck could have caused this divorce.
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* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone--[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
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* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus Bruce finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone--[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
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* We know that Terry's parents broke up prior to the start of the series, [[spoiler: but it's possible that the fact that neither Terry nor his brother resemble EITHER of his parents could have lead to suspicions of cheating on either parent's part, which itself could have been a major factor leading to the divorce.]] And anyone who's seen ''Epilogue'' knows that [[spoiler: neither parent was at all unfaithful. It was just that since the Mcginnises were similar to Bruce's parents, they were chosen to have his reproductive data overwritten by Bruce's in an attempt to create a new Batman.]] In other words, simple bad luck could have caused this divorce.
* [[spoiler: Amanda Waller planned to have Terry's parents assassinated, when Terry was just 8 years old, hoping that Terry would become new Batman]]. However whose to say that [[spoiler: killing Terry's parents, would have same effect on Terry as it did on Bruce]]? The whole thing might have turned out the other way and [[spoiler: Terry might have possibly turned out to be incredibly malicious supervillain, instead of the new hero Amanda Waller wanted]]. At the first sign of trouble in Terry's happy family life (divorced parents), what does he do? He runs with a bad crowd, ultimately ending in a three month stint in juvie. What would have happened if [[spoiler: his parents ''had'' died?]] At best he would have become an anti-hero on the level of Jason Todd. At worst...
* [[spoiler: Amanda Waller planned to have Terry's parents assassinated, when Terry was just 8 years old, hoping that Terry would become new Batman]]. However whose to say that [[spoiler: killing Terry's parents, would have same effect on Terry as it did on Bruce]]? The whole thing might have turned out the other way and [[spoiler: Terry might have possibly turned out to be incredibly malicious supervillain, instead of the new hero Amanda Waller wanted]]. At the first sign of trouble in Terry's happy family life (divorced parents), what does he do? He runs with a bad crowd, ultimately ending in a three month stint in juvie. What would have happened if [[spoiler: his parents ''had'' died?]] At best he would have become an anti-hero on the level of Jason Todd. At worst...
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* We know that Terry's parents broke up prior to the start of the series, [[spoiler: but it's possible that the fact that neither Terry nor his brother resemble EITHER of his parents could have lead to suspicions of cheating on either parent's Mary's part, which itself could have been a major factor leading to the divorce.]] And anyone who's seen ''Epilogue'' knows that [[spoiler: neither parent was at all unfaithful. It was just that since the Mcginnises McGinnises were similar to Bruce's parents, they were chosen to have his reproductive data overwritten by Bruce's in an attempt to create a new Batman.]] In other words, simple bad luck could have caused this divorce.
* [[spoiler: Amanda Waller planned to have Terry's parentsassassinated, assassinated when Terry was just 8 years old, hoping that Terry would become new Batman]]. However whose However, who's to say that [[spoiler: killing Terry's parents, parents would have same effect on Terry as it did on Bruce]]? The whole thing might have turned out the other way and [[spoiler: Terry might have possibly turned out to be incredibly malicious supervillain, instead of the new hero Amanda Waller wanted]]. At the first sign of trouble in Terry's happy family life (divorced parents), what does he do? He runs with a bad crowd, ultimately ending in a three month stint in juvie. What would have happened if [[spoiler: his parents ''had'' died?]] At best he would have become an anti-hero on the level of Jason Todd. At worst...
* [[spoiler: Amanda Waller planned to have Terry's parents
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* Ian Peak's ultimate fate. See AndIMustScream on the main page. And it's even weirder than the show says it will be; anyone study simple harmonic resonance in their physics class? He's not going to the core and staying there. His entire existence has just turned into a planet-sized game of yo-yo.
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* Ian Peak's ultimate fate. See AndIMustScream on the main page. And it's even weirder than the show says it will be; anyone study simple harmonic resonance in their physics class? He's not going to the core and staying there. His entire existence has just turned into a planet-sized game of yo-yo.
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* May be an unintentional example but the Terrific Trio's name. At first, it just appears to be an AlliterativeName based on the Fantastic Four but then take note of the fact that in the past, the word "terrific" [[HaveAGayOldTime used to have a much different connotation]], one signifying something bad or horrible the same way that the words "terror" and "terrifying" continue to do. In this sense, the name "Terrific Trio" has a harsher and more disturbing DoubleMeaning given their eventual tragic breakdown and demise.
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* Terry and his little brother's black hair? [[spoiler: Despite neither of their parents having black hair, Terry's father's reproductive data was overwritten by Bruce's in the hopes of creating a new Batman]].
* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].
* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]
* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone--[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
* Bruce's loyal guard dog is named "Ace". In JLU Bruce stayed with Ace until she died. Now "Ace" is serving as the only companion that the former Dark Knight has during his darkest hour.
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* Terry and his little brother's black hair? [[spoiler: Despite neither of their parents having black hair, Terry's father's reproductive data was overwritten by Bruce's in the hopes of creating a new Batman]].
* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].
* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]
* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone--[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
* Bruce's loyal guard dog is named "Ace". In JLU Bruce stayed with Ace until she died. Now "Ace" is serving as the only companion that the former Dark Knight has during his darkest hour.
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* Remember how Carter tried to wipe the GAT scores? Today a lot of students' admittance into college rides on those scores. Who knows how many lives he could have ruined!
** Uh... couldn't they simply have retaken the exam due to technical difficulties? The main issue Carter had with the exams was his imperfect score, he'd get more time to study and ace it the next time, so that at worst he'd tie.
* Ian Peak's ultimate fate. See AndIMustScream on the main page.
** And it's even weirder than the show says it will be; anyone study simple harmonic resonance in their physics class? He's not going to the core and staying there. His entire existence has just turned into a planet-sized game of yo-yo.
** Uh... couldn't they simply have retaken the exam due to technical difficulties? The main issue Carter had with the exams was his imperfect score, he'd get more time to study and ace it the next time, so that at worst he'd tie.
* Ian Peak's ultimate fate. See AndIMustScream on the main page.
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** Uh... couldn't they simply have retaken the exam due to technical difficulties? The main issue Carter had with the exams was his imperfect score, he'd get more time to study and ace it the next time, so that at worst he'd tie.
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* Crosses with FridgeLogic, and it is already mentioned in WallBanger: [[spoiler: Amanda Waller planned to have Terry's parents assassinated, when Terry was just 8 years old, hoping that Terry would become new Batman]]. However whose to say that [[spoiler: killing Terry's parents, would have same effect on Terry as it did on Bruce]]? The whole thing might have turned out the other way and [[spoiler: Terry might have possibly turned out to be incredibly malicious supervillain, instead of the new hero Amanda Waller wanted]].
** At the first sign of trouble in Terry's happy family life (divorced parents), what does he do? He runs with a bad crowd, ultimately ending in a three month stint in juvie. What would have happened if [[spoiler: his parents ''had'' died?]] At best he would have become an anti-hero on the level of Jason Todd. At worst...
* The device Ian Peak used made him intangible by ''vibrating his molecules''. Meaning [[AndIMustScream what happened to him]] is exactly what would happen to TheFlash if he ever lost control of his powers.
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* Terry and his little brother's black hair? [[spoiler: Despite neither of their parents having black hair, Terry's father's reproductive data was overwritten by Bruce's in the hopes of creating a new Batman]].
* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].
* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]
* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone-[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
* Bruce's loyal guard dog is named "Ace". In JLU Bruce stayed with Ace until she died. Now "Ace" is serving as the only companion that the former Dark Knight has during his darkest hour.
* Some fans suspect that Superman knows that [[spoiler: Terry is Bruce's biological son]]. I always wondered how he would know. Then it hit me: he's '''Superman''. Even if he didn't already know, he could [[InjusticeGodsAmongUs easily just look at Terry's DNA]] and see it for himself.
** At the first sign of trouble in Terry's happy family life (divorced parents), what does he do? He runs with a bad crowd, ultimately ending in a three month stint in juvie. What would have happened if [[spoiler: his parents ''had'' died?]] At best he would have become an anti-hero on the level of Jason Todd. At worst...
* The device Ian Peak used made him intangible by ''vibrating his molecules''. Meaning [[AndIMustScream what happened to him]] is exactly what would happen to TheFlash if he ever lost control of his powers.
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* Terry and his little brother's black hair? [[spoiler: Despite neither of their parents having black hair, Terry's father's reproductive data was overwritten by Bruce's in the hopes of creating a new Batman]].
* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].
* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]
* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone-[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
* Bruce's loyal guard dog is named "Ace". In JLU Bruce stayed with Ace until she died. Now "Ace" is serving as the only companion that the former Dark Knight has during his darkest hour.
* Some fans suspect that Superman knows that [[spoiler: Terry is Bruce's biological son]]. I always wondered how he would know. Then it hit me: he's '''Superman''. Even if he didn't already know, he could [[InjusticeGodsAmongUs easily just look at Terry's DNA]] and see it for himself.
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* Crosses with FridgeLogic, and it is already mentioned in WallBanger: [[spoiler: Amanda Waller planned to have Terry's parents assassinated, when Terry was just 8 years old, hoping that Terry would become new Batman]]. However whose to say that [[spoiler: killing Terry's parents, would have same effect on Terry as it did on Bruce]]? The whole thing might have turned out the other way and [[spoiler: Terry might have possibly turned out to be incredibly malicious supervillain, instead of the new hero Amanda Waller wanted]].
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* The device Ian Peak used made him intangible by ''vibrating his molecules''. Meaning [[AndIMustScream what happened to him]] is exactly what would happen to TheFlash if he ever lost control of hispowers.
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* Terry and his little brother's black hair? [[spoiler: Despite neither of their parents having black hair, Terry's father's reproductive data was overwritten by Bruce's in the hopes of creating a new Batman]].
* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].
* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]
* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone-[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
* Bruce's loyal guard dog is named "Ace". In JLU Bruce stayed with Ace until she died. Now "Ace" is serving as the only companion that the former Dark Knight has during his darkest hour.
* Some fans suspect that Superman knows that [[spoiler: Terry is Bruce's biological son]]. I always wondered how he would know. Then it hit me: he's '''Superman''. Even if he didn't already know, he could [[InjusticeGodsAmongUs easily just look at Terry's DNA]] and see it for himself.powers.
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* Terry and his little brother's black hair? [[spoiler: Despite neither of their parents having black hair, Terry's father's reproductive data was overwritten by Bruce's in the hopes of creating a new Batman]].
* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].
* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]
* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone-[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
* Bruce's loyal guard dog is named "Ace". In JLU Bruce stayed with Ace until she died. Now "Ace" is serving as the only companion that the former Dark Knight has during his darkest hour.
* Some fans suspect that Superman knows that [[spoiler: Terry is Bruce's biological son]]. I always wondered how he would know. Then it hit me: he's '''Superman''. Even if he didn't already know, he could [[InjusticeGodsAmongUs easily just look at Terry's DNA]] and see it for himself.
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* Bruce's loyal guard dog is named "Ace". In JLU Bruce stayed with Ace until she died. Now "Ace" is serving as the only companion that the former Dark Knight has during his darkest hour.hour.
* Some fans suspect that Superman knows that [[spoiler: Terry is Bruce's biological son]]. I always wondered how he would know. Then it hit me: he's '''Superman''. Even if he didn't already know, he could [[InjusticeGodsAmongUs easily just look at Terry's DNA]] and see it for himself.
* Some fans suspect that Superman knows that [[spoiler: Terry is Bruce's biological son]]. I always wondered how he would know. Then it hit me: he's '''Superman''. Even if he didn't already know, he could [[InjusticeGodsAmongUs easily just look at Terry's DNA]] and see it for himself.
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* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone-[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
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* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone-[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.more.
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* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]
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* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]is?]]
* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone-[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
* Pointed out by [[SFDebris Chuck]]. What is the impetus for Brus finally retiring? It's not his heart, although that's a factor-it's because that, in desperation, he pulled a gun on someone-[[NotSoDifferent not unlike Joe Chill]]. If he had continued being Batman, he would have to turn to lethal force just to survive, [[ThouShaltNotKill something that goes against everything he stands for.]] It's at that point that he realized he just couldn't wear the cowl any more.
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** At the first sign of trouble in Terry's happy family life (divorced parents), what does he do? He runs with a bad crowd, ultimately ending in a three month stint in juvie. What would have happened if [[spoiler: his parents ''had'' died?]] Terry has the markings of a ''much'' darker Batman (slightly hinted at, but it's there in the show and in the comics), and at best he would have become an anti-hero on the level of Jason Todd. At worst...
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** At the first sign of trouble in Terry's happy family life (divorced parents), what does he do? He runs with a bad crowd, ultimately ending in a three month stint in juvie. What would have happened if [[spoiler: his parents ''had'' died?]] Terry has the markings of a ''much'' darker Batman (slightly hinted at, but it's there in the show and in the comics), and at At best he would have become an anti-hero on the level of Jason Todd. At worst...
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** At the first sign of trouble in Terry's happy family life (divorced parents), what does he do? He runs with a bad crowd, ultimately ending in a three month stint in juvie. What would have happened if [[spoiler: his parents ''had'' died?]] Terry has the markings of a ''much'' darker Batman (slightly hinted at, but it's there in the show and in the comics), and at best he would have become an anti-hero on the level of Jason Todd. At worst...
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* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In pretty much every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]
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* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In pretty much every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?]]
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* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In pretty much every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?
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* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In pretty much every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?is?]]
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* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].
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* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].him]].
* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In pretty much every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?
* "Lost Soul". [[ItMakesSenseInContext When the Batsuit is taken over by an evil AI]], Terry makes due with Bruce's old belt and '''Nightwing's mask'''. In pretty much every version, Dick Grayson was the closest thing Bruce ever had to a son. [[spoiler: Then, in JLU, what do we find out Terry is?
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** Uh... couldn't they simply have retaken the exam due to technical difficulties? The main issue Carter had with the exams was his imperfect score, he'd get more time to study and ace it the next time, so that at worst he'd tie.
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* We know that Terry's parents broke up prior to the start of the series, [[spoiler: but it's possible that the fact that neither Terry nor his brother resemble EITHER of his parents could have lead to suspicions of cheating on either parent's part, which itself could have been a major factor leading to the divorce.]] And anyone who's seen ''Epilogue'' knows that [[spoiler: neither parent was at all unfaithful. It was simply that since the Mcginnises were similar to Bruce's parents, Mr. Mcginnes was chosen to have his reproductive data overwritten by Bruce's in an attempt to create a new Batman.]] In other words, simple bad luck could have caused this divorce.
* We know that Terry's parents broke up prior to the start of the series, [[spoiler: but it's possible that the fact that neither Terry nor his brother resemble EITHER of his parents could have lead to suspicions of cheating on either parent's part, which itself could have been a major factor leading to the divorce.]] And anyone who's seen ''Epilogue'' knows that [[spoiler: neither parent was at all unfaithful. It was simply that since the Mcginnises were similar to Bruce's parents, Mr. Mcginnes was chosen to have his reproductive data overwritten by Bruce's in an attempt to create a new Batman.]] In other words, simple bad luck could have caused this divorce.
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* We know that Terry's parents broke up prior to the start of the series, [[spoiler: but it's possible that the fact that neither Terry nor his brother resemble EITHER of his parents could have lead to suspicions of cheating on either parent's part, which itself could have been a major factor leading to the divorce.]] And anyone who's seen ''Epilogue'' knows that [[spoiler: neither parent was at all unfaithful. It wassimply just that since the Mcginnises were similar to Bruce's parents, Mr. Mcginnes was they were chosen to have his reproductive data overwritten by Bruce's in an attempt to create a new Batman.]] In other words, simple bad luck could have caused this divorce.
* We know that Terry's parents broke up prior to the start of the series, [[spoiler: but it's possible that the fact that neither Terry nor his brother resemble EITHER of his parents could have lead to suspicions of cheating on either parent's part, which itself could have been a major factor leading to the divorce.]] And anyone who's seen ''Epilogue'' knows that [[spoiler: neither parent was at all unfaithful. It was
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* Terry and his little brother's black hair? [[spoiler: Despite neither of their parents having black hair, Terry's father's reproductive data was overwritten by Bruce's in the hopes of creating a new Batman]].Batman]].
* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].
* We already know that Terry and Bruce aren't at all enthusiastic about Max joining in on their crime-fighting, even after [[SecretKeeper she gets in on Terry's secret identity]]. We know Terry's reason--he simply doesn't want her to get hurt--but Bruce's reason only makes a whole lot more sense after watching ''Return of the Joker'' [[spoiler:and seeing, in flashback, [[BrainwashedAndCrazy what the Joker did to Tim]]. Simply put, Bruce doesn't want any more sidekicks getting the same kind of treatment; and it's also what led to his past sidekicks leaving him]].
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** Though this creates the FridgeLogic of [[WeWillNotUseStageMakeUpInTheFuture either parent could have just dyed their hair a different colour]].
** Though this creates the FridgeLogic of [[WeWillNotUseStageMakeUpInTheFuture either parent could have just dyed their hair a different colour]].
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** Though this creates the FridgeLogic of [[WeWillNotUseStageMakeUpInTheFuture either parent could have just dyed their hair a different colour]].
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* Terry and his little brother's black hair? [[spoiler: Despite neither of their parents having black hair, Terry's father's reproductive data was overwritten by Bruce's in the hopes of creating a new Batman]].Batman]].
** Though this creates the FridgeLogic of [[WeWillNotUseStageMakeUpInTheFuture either parent could have just dyed their hair a different colour]].
** Though this creates the FridgeLogic of [[WeWillNotUseStageMakeUpInTheFuture either parent could have just dyed their hair a different colour]].
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* I've been watching some of the original Batman The Animated Series episodes (working my way through the entire series). You know what? Joker ''isn't'' funny. He makes terrible puns and stupid (and destructive) pranks, but nothing gets so much as a chuckle. -@/{{Peteman}}
* I've been watching some of the original Batman The Animated Series episodes (working my way through the entire series). You know what? Joker ''isn't'' funny. He makes terrible puns and stupid (and destructive) pranks, but nothing gets so much as a chuckle. -@/{{Peteman}}
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* I've been watching some of the original Batman The Animated Series episodes (working my way through the entire series). You know what? Joker ''isn't'' funny. He makes terrible puns and stupid (and destructive) pranks, but nothing gets so much as a chuckle. -@/{{Peteman}}
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* I've been watching some of the original Batman The Animated Series episodes (working my way through the entire series). You know what? Joker ''isn't'' funny. He makes terrible puns and stupid (and destructive) pranks, but nothing gets so much as a chuckle. -@/{{Peteman)}}
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* I've been watching some of the original Batman The Animated Series episodes (working my way through the entire series). You know what? Joker ''isn't'' funny. He makes terrible puns and stupid (and destructive) pranks, but nothing gets so much as a chuckle. -@/{{Peteman)}}-@/{{Peteman}}
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* I've been watching some of the original Batman The Animated Series episodes (working my way through the entire series). You know what? Joker ''isn't'' funny. He makes terrible puns and stupid (and destructive) pranks, but nothing gets so much as a chuckle. -{{@/Peteman)}}
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* I've been watching some of the original Batman The Animated Series episodes (working my way through the entire series). You know what? Joker ''isn't'' funny. He makes terrible puns and stupid (and destructive) pranks, but nothing gets so much as a chuckle. -{{@/Peteman)}}-@/{{Peteman)}}
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* Terry and his little brother's black hair? [[spoiler: Despite neither of their parents having black hair, Terry's father's reproductive data was overwritten by Bruce's in the hopes of creating a new Batman]].Batman]].
* I've been watching some of the original Batman The Animated Series episodes (working my way through the entire series). You know what? Joker ''isn't'' funny. He makes terrible puns and stupid (and destructive) pranks, but nothing gets so much as a chuckle. -{{@/Peteman)}}
* I've been watching some of the original Batman The Animated Series episodes (working my way through the entire series). You know what? Joker ''isn't'' funny. He makes terrible puns and stupid (and destructive) pranks, but nothing gets so much as a chuckle. -{{@/Peteman)}}
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* Crosses with FridgeLogic, and it is already mentioned in WallBanger: [[spoiler: Amanda Waller planned to have Terry's parents assassinated, when Terry was just 8 years old, hoping that Terry would become new Batman]]. However whose to say that [[spoiler: killing Terry's parents, would have same effect on Terry as it did on Bruce]]? The whole thing might have turned out the other way and [[spoiler: Terry might have possibly turned out to be incredibly malicious supervillain, instead of the new hero Amanda Waller wanted]].
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* Remember how Carter tried to wipe the GAT scores? Today a lot of students' admittance into college rides on those scores. Who knows how many lives he could have ruined!
* Jackson Campbell's ultimate fate. See AndIMustScream under the YMMV tab.
* Remember how Carter tried to wipe the GAT scores? Today a lot of students' admittance into college rides on those scores. Who knows how many lives he could have ruined!
* Jackson Campbell's ultimate fate. See AndIMustScream under the YMMV tab.
