History Fridge / ApolloJusticeAceAttorney

6th Feb '16 2:04:14 PM Peridonyx
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* At first glance, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s attempts to sabotage Apollo and Phoenix's case during "Turnabout Succession" just seem like an EvilIsPetty way of getting the last laugh after [[spoiler:his original conviction at the end of "Turnabout Trump"]]. However, if you think about it, [[spoiler:he]] still has plenty to lose pragmatically as well: [[spoiler:he essentially MightAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll thanks to both his many in-prison perks (such as his LuxuryPrisonSuite) and his mentioned connections (It's made explicit that the legal community still respects him, albeit as a "good lawyer who simply snapped one day".), not to mention how it's revealed in more than one game that killers in this series don't always get death row (though multiple murders under your belt are almost assuredly a way to make yourself much more eligible), and a second conviction would probably ruin all of that for him.]]
16th Jan '16 1:55:18 PM Siggu
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* In the first case, [[spoiler: Apollo gets from Phoenix through Trucy a forged piece of evidence to get Kristoph convicted]]. In the fourth case, we find out [[spoiler: that, seven years ago, Phoenix got from Kristoph through Trucy a forged piece of evidence that would have the former disbarred]]. A message from [[spoiler:Phoenix]] telling [[spoiler:Kristoph]] that he's found out everything, perhaps?
9th Jan '16 6:51:10 PM rjd1922
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* They probably brought back the "poisoned coffee" thing from Trials and Tribulations so that you'd be surprised when they put a new twist on it where [[spoiler: it wasn't the coffee that was poisoned.]]
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* They probably brought back the "poisoned coffee" thing from Trials ''Trials and Tribulations Tribulations'' so that you'd be surprised when they put a new twist on it where [[spoiler: it wasn't the coffee that was poisoned.]]

* At the end of the last case, Vera Misham surviving being poisoned by a super-deadly poison that nobody has ever survived exposure to before seems like a 'And then everything was perfect' sort of DeusExMachina ending, especially considering that she wasn't exactly a picture of good health to begin with... until you realize a vital detail: She's spend the last 7 years wearing poison-infused nail-polish. Even though she didn't start biting her nails until she went to court, microscopic amounts of it would have been absorbed through her pores, and for a poison that potent, microscopic amounts count for a lot. Thus, following in the footsteps of the [[Film/ThePrincessBride Dread Pirate Roberts]], she's built up a resistance to that particular poison - not an immunity, but just enough so that when she's finally directly exposed to it, she can survive.
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* At the end of the last case, Vera Misham surviving being poisoned by a super-deadly poison that nobody has ever survived exposure to before seems like a 'And then everything was perfect' sort of DeusExMachina ending, especially considering that she wasn't exactly a picture of good health to begin with... until you realize a vital detail: She's spend the last 7 years wearing poison-infused nail-polish. Even though she didn't start biting her nails until she went to court, microscopic amounts of it would have been absorbed through her pores, and for a poison that potent, microscopic amounts count for a lot. Thus, following in the footsteps of the [[Film/ThePrincessBride Dread Pirate Roberts]], she's built up a resistance to that particular poison - not an immunity, [[AcquiredPoisonImmunity immunity]], but just enough so that when she's finally directly exposed to it, she can survive.
9th Jan '16 6:42:43 PM rjd1922
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** He's also become as outwardly sarcastic and snarky as he's always been [[FirstPersonSmartass inside his own head]]
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** He's also become as outwardly sarcastic and snarky as he's always been [[FirstPersonSmartass inside his own head]]head.]]
9th Jan '16 6:41:47 PM rjd1922
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* Now this troper has asked themselves the question why [[spoiler: Thalassa Gramarye]] gave up [[spoiler: her son, Apollo Justice]] in the first place, but then I realized: [[spoiler: If you compare Lamiroir's and Apollo's ages from their profiles, they are listed as 40 and 22 respectively- Which means that Thalassa had him when she was ''18 years old''.]] I believe it was stated that [[spoiler: she left Troupe Gramarye to marry another performer, but he died a year after Apollo was born.]] Now imagine being 19 years old with a 1 year-old child, with no way to support it [[spoiler:(as she can't perform and watch over him at the same time). Now from what we've seen of Magnifi, he probably wasn't too thrilled that his daughter ran off with someone else and had a child and would have refused to support Apollo, leaving Thalassa with no choice but to leave him at an orphanage. "But why was it different with[[spoiler: Trucy?"]], you might ask. The things is,[[spoiler: Zak was ''part of Troupe Gramarye''. Magnifi approved of him as he was his favourite apprentice and when his daughter and his preferred apprentice married and had a daughter, of course he would have no objections as Trucy would be born into the Troupe with parents that he himself "chose", which I think would be realistic considering his manipulative behaviour.]]
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* Now this troper has asked themselves the question why [[spoiler: Thalassa Gramarye]] gave up [[spoiler: her son, Apollo Justice]] in the first place, but then I realized: [[spoiler: If you compare Lamiroir's and Apollo's ages from their profiles, they are listed as 40 and 22 respectively- Which means that Thalassa had him when she was ''18 years old''.]] I believe it was stated that [[spoiler: she left Troupe Gramarye to marry another performer, but he died a year after Apollo was born.]] Now imagine being 19 years old with a 1 year-old child, with no way to support it [[spoiler:(as she can't perform and watch over him at the same time). Now from what we've seen of Magnifi, he probably wasn't too thrilled that his daughter ran off with someone else and had a child and would have refused to support Apollo, leaving Thalassa with no choice but to leave him at an orphanage. ]] "But why was it different with[[spoiler: Trucy?"]], you might ask. The things is,[[spoiler: Zak was ''part of Troupe Gramarye''. Magnifi approved of him as he was his favourite apprentice and when his daughter and his preferred apprentice married and had a daughter, of course he would have no objections as Trucy would be born into the Troupe with parents that he himself "chose", which I think would be realistic considering his manipulative behaviour.]]
2nd Oct '15 6:27:56 PM OrangenChan
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** Further FridgeHorror kicks in when you realize this, and then wonder if [[spoiler: Kristoph Gavin]] had done things like this in his own trial before. It would ''not'' be out of character for him at all.
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** Further FridgeHorror kicks in when you realize this, and then wonder if [[spoiler: Kristoph Gavin]] had done things like this in his own trial trials before. It would ''not'' be out of character for him at all.
2nd Oct '15 6:27:30 PM OrangenChan
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** Further FridgeHorror kicks in when you realize this, and then wonder if [[spoiler: Kristoph Gavin]] had done things like this in his own trial before. It would ''not'' be out of character for him at all.
2nd Oct '15 12:14:34 PM ThatOneChick
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* After you learn just how evil [[spoiler: Kristoph Gavin]] really is, one pops up in Chapter One: [[spoiler: Kristoph was trying to set up Olga Orly for the murder. If Phoenix hadn't joined in and the case continued uninterrupted, there is a very good chance Orly would have gotten a Guilty verdict and possibly a death sentence for a crime she didn't commit.]]
19th Aug '15 6:14:35 PM Squirtle802
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** [[spoiler: Said poison has an incredibly small lethal dosage, works on a delay of about fifteen minutes, and the judge mentioned the very strict over enforcement of it is because it was used in some truly horrifying cases a number of years ago. ''Atroquinine is the poison used in the Dahlia Hawthorne cases.'' ]]
4th Jul '15 4:08:44 AM WitchHatsFTW
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** Personally I always thought it was because, had [[spoiler: Kristoph]] actually admitted to the Drew's murder, he'd be simultaneously be admitting to first-degree murder, another attempted murder via Vera's poisoned nail polish, making a request for forged evidence, and pulling the strings behind Wright's disbarment. It wasn't that he was afraid of being charged with the death penalty. He was afraid of being revealed as a fraud and at the same time clearing Wright's name and revealing that he had intentionally ruined him.
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