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11th Aug '17 8:43:53 AM Peridonyx
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* "Hobo Phoenix" is actually to Wright what "Godot" was to Diego Armando, if you think about it: Both men are lovers of different drinks (Godot/Diego's coffee; Phoenix's grape juice) who were utterly ruined by complete {{Sociopath}}s (Godot/Diego by Dahlia Hawthorne; Phoenix by [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]]), spent roughly a half-decade in obscurity (Godot/Diego in a coma; Phoenix as a poker-player), started wearing special headgear (Godot/Diego's sight-aiding visor; Phoenix's [[spoiler:SpyCam]] hat), got fed up and decided to become vigilantes of sorts (Godot/Diego with his TheHeavy role in the 3-5; Phoenix with his sudden AntiHero methods in both [[spoiler:4-1]] and [[spoiler:4-4]]), and then finally found some eventual peace (Godot/Diego ultimately being a GracefulLoser; Phoenix ultimately deciding to become a [[spoiler:defense attorney again]]).
* At first glance, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s attempts to sabotage Apollo and Phoenix's case during "Turnabout Succession" just seem like an EvilIsPetty way of getting the last laugh after [[spoiler:his original conviction at the end of "Turnabout Trump"]]. However, if you think about it, [[spoiler:he]] still has plenty to lose pragmatically as well: [[spoiler:He essentially MightAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll thanks to both his many in-prison perks (such as his LuxuryPrisonSuite) and his mentioned connections (it's made clear that the legal community still respects him, albeit as a "good lawyer who simply snapped one day"), not to mention how it's revealed in more than one game that killers in this series don't always get death row (though multiple murders under your belt are almost assuredly a way to make yourself much more eligible), and a second conviction would probably ruin all of that for him.]]

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* "Hobo Phoenix" is actually to Wright what "Godot" was to Diego Armando, if you think about it: Both men are lovers of different have favorite drinks (Godot/Diego's coffee; Phoenix's grape juice) who juice), were utterly ruined by complete {{Sociopath}}s (Godot/Diego by Dahlia Hawthorne; Phoenix by (Dahlia Hawthorne for Godot/Diego; [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]]), Gavin]] for Phoenix), spent roughly a half-decade in obscurity (Godot/Diego in a coma; Phoenix as a poker-player), started wearing special headgear (Godot/Diego's sight-aiding visor; Phoenix's [[spoiler:SpyCam]] hat), got fed up and decided to become became vigilantes of sorts (Godot/Diego with his TheHeavy (Godot/Diego's [[TheHeavy Heavy]] role in the 3-5; Phoenix with his sudden Phoenix's AntiHero methods in both [[spoiler:4-1]] and [[spoiler:4-4]]), and then finally found some eventual peace (Godot/Diego ultimately being a GracefulLoser; Phoenix ultimately deciding to become a [[spoiler:defense attorney again]]).
* At first glance, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s attempts [[spoiler:Kristoph]] trying to sabotage Apollo and Phoenix's case during "Turnabout Succession" just seem seems like an EvilIsPetty way of getting the last laugh after [[spoiler:his original conviction at the end of in "Turnabout Trump"]]. However, if you think about it, [[spoiler:he]] still has plenty to lose pragmatically as well: [[spoiler:He essentially MightAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll thanks to both his many in-prison perks (such as (e.g., his LuxuryPrisonSuite) and his mentioned connections (it's made clear confirmed that the legal community still respects him, albeit him as a "good lawyer who simply snapped one day"), not to mention how lawyer, conviction or not), and it's been revealed in more than one game that killers in this series here don't always get the death row penalty (though multiple murders under your belt are almost assuredly almost-assuredly a way to make yourself much more eligible), eligible) -- and a second conviction would probably ruin all of that for him.]]
22nd Jan '17 7:44:52 AM mikoc5stuart
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* At the start of case 3, Apollo comments on just how much Trucy spent impulse-buying various Gavinners merchandise, and how it seems out of the ordinary consdering how cheap (or simply strapped for cash) Wright seems to be at this point, considering it didn't look like he was too rich in case 2, less than a month ago. Well, they DID just save a mobster's son, and while the [[{The Mafia}Kitakis]] may be earning the money for Wocky's operation legally, who's to say they wouldn't blow some of that illegal cash they were more and more disintrested in on Apollo's paycheck?

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* At the start of case 3, Apollo comments on just how much Trucy spent impulse-buying various Gavinners merchandise, and how it seems out of the ordinary consdering how cheap (or simply strapped for cash) Wright seems to be at this point, considering it didn't look like he was too rich in case 2, less than a month ago. Well, they DID just save a mobster's son, and while the [[{The Mafia}Kitakis]] [[TheMafia Kitakis]] may be earning the money for Wocky's operation legally, who's to say they wouldn't blow some of that illegal cash they were more and more disintrested in on Apollo's paycheck?
22nd Jan '17 7:43:13 AM mikoc5stuart
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* At the start of case 3, Apollo comments on just how much Trucy spent impulse-buying various Gavinners merchandise, and how it seems out of the ordinary consdering how cheap (or simply strapped for cash) Wright seems to be at this point, considering it didn't look like he was too rich in case 2, less than a month ago. Well, they DID just save a mobster's son, and while the [[{The Mafia}Kitakis]] may be earning the money for Wocky's operation legally, who's to say they wouldn't blow some of that illegal cash they were more and more disintrested in on Apollo's paycheck?
12th Jan '17 1:45:16 PM Andre
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** While it's is plausible that part of the reason for Kristoph's actions was this, his primary reason, which he alludes to in-game, is actually the fact that Zak went with a "third-rate lawyer" like Phoenix, over him because of a card game. Kristoph believes in being first-rate in all things. Having a third-rate lawyer being chosen over you certainly isn't going to make you look first-rate. And if Phoenix actually won the case (which he just might have if it hadn't been for the forgery), that would've made Kristoph look even more incompetent. So Kristoph actually may have been sabotaging Phoenix to preserve his own image.
19th Dec '16 8:48:24 AM Gosicrystal
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19th Dec '16 8:48:07 AM Gosicrystal
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26th Sep '16 12:43:49 PM GunarmDyne
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* Klavier is regarded as one of the more helpful prosecutors when he's up against Apollo, but one has to remember that he wasn't that way when up against Phoenix. He was given the knowledge of the forged diary page, but spent seven years wondering about the ''why'' and especially how Kristoph had known about it. After seeing what the aftermath of the trial did to Phoenix, he spent the time focusing on his band and didn't prosecute another case that whole time until 4-2, where he outright told Alita Tiala that he was on the side of truth and not her. Klavier's CharacterDevelopment happened offscreen during those seven years.
17th Sep '16 6:10:26 PM Peridonyx
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** Practically confirmed by [[spoiler:Kristoph]] flat-out asking, "Is... this your idea of revenge, [[spoiler:Phoenix Wright]]? Revenge for the events that [[spoiler:took away your attorney's badge seven years ago]]!" at the end.
15th Sep '16 2:31:14 AM cillianflood
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** !Objection! Case 1-4 and Case 3-2 actually featured two trials for two separate crimes. *slams desk* Therefore the Apollo Justice case was really Phoenix's fifteenth case!
20th Jun '16 6:42:52 PM Siggu
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** ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'' finally answers this point: [[spoiler: Apollo, Thalassa and her husband were on Khura'in during one of the latter's music exhibitions. However, a fire was started, which not only killed Apollo's father, but also ensued such chaos that Thalassa accidentally lost Apollo, and never found him before returning to the Troupe. Magnifi had nothing to do with it]].
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