History Fridge / AceAttorney

6th Feb '16 7:38:36 PM Siggu
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* Manfred von Karma's [[spoiler: killing of Gregory Edgeworth on {{Revenge}} of his first penalty ever]] looks like an extreme case of DisproportionateRetribution, and it indeed is. However, his actions take a whole new meaning after playing the fourth case of ''Investigations 2'' - the whole reason von Karma was penalized was because [[spoiler:the chief prosecutor was the one who forged evidence (von Karma was an UnwittingPawn) and wanted to cover his tracks]]. He's still guilty of forcing witnesses into giving out false confessions, but his DisproportionateRetribution is not ''as'' disproportionate following that reveal. Problem is, he unleashed it on the wrong person.
6th Feb '16 2:03:35 PM Peridonyx
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* At first glance, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s attempts to sabotage Apollo and Phoenix's case during "Turnabout Succession" just seem like an EvilIsPetty way of getting the last laugh after [[spoiler:his original conviction at the end of "Turnabout Trump"]]. However, if you think about it, [[spoiler:he]] still has plenty to lose pragmatically as well: [[spoiler:he essentially MightAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll thanks to both his many in-prison perks (such as his LuxuryPrisonSuite) and his mentioned connections (It's made explicit that the legal community still respects him, albeit as a "good lawyer who simply snapped one day".), not to mention how it's revealed in more than one game that killers in this series don't always get death row (though multiple murders under your belt are almost assuredly a way to make yourself much more eligible), and a second conviction would probably ruin all of that for him.]]
25th Jan '16 12:35:05 PM Siggu
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* Doubles as RewatchBonus. In Case 3-4, Edgeworth mentions a ConvenientlyUnverifiableStory about Melissa Foster [[spoiler: to cover the fact she's actually Dahlia Hawthorne]]. If you replay Case 1-4, you'll notice that von Karma states the ConvenientlyUnverifiableStory that boat rent shop's owner has amnesia and does not remember his name [[spoiler: to cover the fact he's actually Yanni Yogi]]. One subtle detail about von Karma's mentoring...
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* Doubles as RewatchBonus. In Case 3-4, Edgeworth mentions a ConvenientlyUnverifiableStory ConvenientlyUnverifiableCoverStory about Melissa Foster [[spoiler: to cover the fact she's actually Dahlia Hawthorne]]. If you replay Case 1-4, you'll notice that von Karma states a ConvenientlyUnverifiableCoverStory - the ConvenientlyUnverifiableStory that boat rent shop's owner has amnesia and does not remember his name [[spoiler: to cover the fact he's actually Yanni Yogi]]. One subtle detail about von Karma's mentoring...
25th Jan '16 12:33:47 PM Siggu
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* Doubles as RewatchBonus. In Case 3-4, Edgeworth mentions a ConvenientlyUnverifiableStory about Melissa Foster [[spoiler: to cover the fact she's actually Dahlia Hawthorne]]. If you replay Case 1-4, you'll notice that von Karma states the ConvenientlyUnverifiableStory that boat rent shop's owner has amnesia and does not remember his name [[spoiler: to cover the fact he's actually Yanni Yogi]]. One subtle detail about von Karma's mentoring...
25th Jan '16 5:13:59 AM Kayube
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* April May [[Music/TheyMightBeGiants has got her ear to the walls and she's tappin' the calls. If you've got a secret, Mia... Forget about it! 'Cause she's a... hotel detective!]]
22nd Jan '16 11:12:47 AM TaylorHyuuga
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*** However, it's very likely he could have gotten into that mental state in prison. Before the kidnapping, he was tutoring Dahlia, and in the flashback at the start of the case, he doesn't appear to have any difficulties talking. He went to jail on death row believing that he killed his girlfriend. That can't be good for your mind.
21st Jan '16 8:33:40 AM Peridonyx
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* At first glance, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s attempts to sabotage Apollo and Phoenix's case during "Turnabout Succession" just seem like an EvilIsPetty way of getting the last laugh after [[spoiler:his original conviction at the end of "Turnabout Trump"]]. However, if you think about it, [[spoiler:he]] still has plenty to lose pragmatically as well: [[spoiler:he essentially MightAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll thanks to both his many in-prison perks (such as his LuxuryPrisonSuite) and his mentioned connections (It's made explicit that the legal community still respects him, albeit as a "good lawyer who simply snapped one day".), not to mention how it's revealed in more than one game that killers in this series don't always get death row (though multiple murders under your belt are almost assuredly a way to make yourself much more eligible), and a second conviction would probably ruined all of that for him.]]
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* At first glance, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s attempts to sabotage Apollo and Phoenix's case during "Turnabout Succession" just seem like an EvilIsPetty way of getting the last laugh after [[spoiler:his original conviction at the end of "Turnabout Trump"]]. However, if you think about it, [[spoiler:he]] still has plenty to lose pragmatically as well: [[spoiler:he essentially MightAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll thanks to both his many in-prison perks (such as his LuxuryPrisonSuite) and his mentioned connections (It's made explicit that the legal community still respects him, albeit as a "good lawyer who simply snapped one day".), not to mention how it's revealed in more than one game that killers in this series don't always get death row (though multiple murders under your belt are almost assuredly a way to make yourself much more eligible), and a second conviction would probably ruined ruin all of that for him.]]
21st Jan '16 8:33:04 AM Peridonyx
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* At first glance, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s attempts to sabotage Apollo and Phoenix's case during "Turnabout Succession" just seem like an EvilIsPetty way of getting the last laugh after [[spoiler:his original conviction at the end of "Turnabout Trump"]]. However, if you think about it, [[spoiler:he]] still has plenty to lose pragmatically as well: [[spoiler:he essentially MightAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll thanks to both his many in-prison perks (such as his LuxuryPrisonSuite) and his mentioned connections (It's made explicit that the legal community still respects him, albeit as a "good lawyer who simply snapped one day".), not to mention how it's stated in more than one game that killers in this series don't always get death row (though multiple murders under your belt are almost assuredly a way to make yourself much more eligible), and a second conviction would've probably ruined all of that for him.]]
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* At first glance, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s attempts to sabotage Apollo and Phoenix's case during "Turnabout Succession" just seem like an EvilIsPetty way of getting the last laugh after [[spoiler:his original conviction at the end of "Turnabout Trump"]]. However, if you think about it, [[spoiler:he]] still has plenty to lose pragmatically as well: [[spoiler:he essentially MightAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll thanks to both his many in-prison perks (such as his LuxuryPrisonSuite) and his mentioned connections (It's made explicit that the legal community still respects him, albeit as a "good lawyer who simply snapped one day".), not to mention how it's stated revealed in more than one game that killers in this series don't always get death row (though multiple murders under your belt are almost assuredly a way to make yourself much more eligible), and a second conviction would've would probably ruined all of that for him.]]
21st Jan '16 8:31:54 AM Peridonyx
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* At first glance, [[spoiler:Kristoph]]'s attempts to sabotage Apollo and Phoenix's case during "Turnabout Succession" just seem like an EvilIsPetty way of getting the last laugh after [[spoiler:his original conviction at the end of "Turnabout Trump"]]. However, if you think about it, [[spoiler:he]] still has plenty to lose pragmatically as well: [[spoiler:he essentially MightAsWellNotBeInPrisonAtAll thanks to both his many in-prison perks (such as his LuxuryPrisonSuite) and his mentioned connections (It's made explicit that the legal community still respects him, albeit as a "good lawyer who simply snapped one day".), not to mention how it's stated in more than one game that killers in this series don't always get death row (though multiple murders under your belt are almost assuredly a way to make yourself much more eligible), and a second conviction would've probably ruined all of that for him.]]
11th Jan '16 11:27:58 AM VoxTheHero
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* In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'' 2, similar to what [[MemeticMolester Gant]] is speculated to have done Ema, [[spoiler: Bansai]] does something very similar to Yumihiko. When Yumihiko [[spoiler: finally confronts him in court during the final case, Bansai]] actually ''leaves the witness stand'' to approach him, suggesting Yumihiko wants to "play" and that the two of them should go home. He's trembling and is ''TERRIFIED'' when [[spoiler:his father]] says this with Yumihiko's actual moving sprite going backwards. [[spoiler: Bansai's]] sprite even approaches him when Yumihiko tries to weakly fight back. If it weren't for Edgeworth demanding that he get back on the witness stand so the trial could continue, Yumihiko might have broken down [[spoiler: again]], but the implication is very obvious.
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* In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'' 2, similar to what [[MemeticMolester Gant]] is speculated to have done Ema, [[spoiler: Bansai]] Bansai/Blaise]] does something very similar to Yumihiko. Yumihiko/Sebastian. When Yumihiko Yumihiko/Sebastian [[spoiler: finally confronts him in court during the final case, Bansai]] Bansai/Blaise]] actually ''leaves the witness stand'' to approach him, suggesting Yumihiko Yumihiko/Sebastian wants to "play" and that the two of them should go home. He's trembling and is ''TERRIFIED'' when [[spoiler:his father]] says this with Yumihiko's actual moving sprite going backwards. [[spoiler: Bansai's]] sprite even approaches him when Yumihiko tries to weakly fight back. If it weren't for Edgeworth demanding that he get back on the witness stand so the trial could continue, Yumihiko might have broken down [[spoiler: again]], but the implication is very obvious.
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