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It is available for free on [[https://vimeo.com/112778241 Vimeo]].
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Valentine is mentally ill, but no specific diagnosis is mentioned. This is PlayedForDrama in the climax of the film, when he is [[spoiler:thrown into a mental institution after an encounter with the police]].
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* NiceShoes: Several characters remark, positively and negatively, on Shy's full brogues.
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* TheCon: Shy and Val pull off a scheme to defraud a hardware store clerk by returning an item they stole.
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* ShortCon: Shy and Val pull off a scheme to defraud a hardware store clerk by returning an item they stole.
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* WelcomeToTheBigCity: In his first day after reaching San Francisco, Shy is forced to sleep on the streets and witnesses a man beating up Val.
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* WelcomeToTheBigCity: In his first day after reaching San Francisco, Shy is forced to sleep on the streets and witnesses a man beating up Val.Val.
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* GuileHero: Shy scams people, robs a vending machine, and hotwires several cars in his quest to get rich and help out his friends.
* JustifiedCriminal: Shy is implied to have very few choices, as a newly orphaned trans person who recently lost his house to foreclosure, and arrives in the city homeless and broke.
* KarmicThief: Shy plans to rob a bank, and in an early monologue implies that he wants to steal from "all the crooks in the world, like presidents, senators, cops".
* LovableRogue: The protagonist, Shy, steals and cons his way through San Francisco to get rich. However, he's well-dressed and slick-talking enough to be likeable to the audience and to other characters.
* JustifiedCriminal: Shy is implied to have very few choices, as a newly orphaned trans person who recently lost his house to foreclosure, and arrives in the city homeless and broke.
* KarmicThief: Shy plans to rob a bank, and in an early monologue implies that he wants to steal from "all the crooks in the world, like presidents, senators, cops".
* LovableRogue: The protagonist, Shy, steals and cons his way through San Francisco to get rich. However, he's well-dressed and slick-talking enough to be likeable to the audience and to other characters.
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* AmbiguousGenderIdentity: The protagonists, Shy and Val, both have ambiguous gender identity: {{Bifauxnen}}, [[{{Transgender}} trans guys]], or somewhere in between? They usually refer to each other as "he/him", "guy", and "man", but when a child asks Shy "are you a boy or a girl?", Shy answers "both". In a later scene, Val explains to Shy, "I'm a two-for-one, a special." These scenes can be interpreted as evidence that these characters have a bigender or genderfluid identity. The film is written and directed by two transmasculine people, who play both of the protagonists, but the film deliberately leaves their exact identity ambiguous.
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* AmbiguousGenderIdentity: The gender identity of the protagonists, Shy and Val, is left ambiguous. The film is written and directed by two transmasculine people, who play both have ambiguous gender identity: {{Bifauxnen}}, [[{{Transgender}} trans guys]], or somewhere in between? They of the protagonists, who usually refer to each other as "he/him", "guy", and "man", but "man". However, when a child asks Shy "are you a boy or a girl?", Shy answers "both". In a later scene, Val explains to Shy, "I'm a two-for-one, a special." These scenes can be interpreted as evidence that these characters have a bigender or genderfluid identity. The film is written and directed by two transmasculine people, who play both of the protagonists, but the film deliberately leaves their exact identity ambiguous.
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* AmbiguousGenderIdentity: The protagonists, Shy and Val, both have ambiguous gender identity: {{Bifauxnen}}, [[{{Transgender}} trans guys]], or somewhere in between? They usually refer to each other as "he/him", "guy", and "man", but when a child asks Shy "are you a boy or a girl?", Shy answers "both". In a later scene, Val explains to Shy, "I'm a two-for-one, a special." These scenes can be interpreted as evidence that these characters have a bigender or genderfluid identity. The film is written and directed by two transmasculine people, who play both of the protagonists, but the film deliberately leaves their exact identity ambiguous.
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* QueerCharacterQueerActor: Shy and Val are both played by trans men (Silas Howard and Harry Dodge, respectively). Both characters are implicitly trans, using male pronouns and words like "guy" and "man" to refer to each other, although the words "trans", "transgender", or "transsexual" are not actually used anywhere in the film.
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* BedlamHouse: Val was institutionalized in what he sarcastically describes as "very nice place in the country" as a child, as a form of conversion therapy for his gender identity. [[spoiler:After a run-in with the police, he is institutionalized again. He is forcibly restrained and sedated. The building is run-down, patients mill about aimlessly, seemingly sedated or out of touch with reality, and there are messages written on the walls in blood.]]
* CouldntFindAPen: In the mental institution [[spoiler: where Val is sent after being arrested]], someone has scrawled "LONELY IS THE HUNTER" on the walls in blood.
* CureYourGays: Val's parents sent him to a mental instutition when he was 13, for "wearing boy's clothes" (i.e. for being transgender). It didn't work, of course; he continues to present as male and has a romantic relationship with a woman, Billie.
* CouldntFindAPen: In the mental institution [[spoiler: where Val is sent after being arrested]], someone has scrawled "LONELY IS THE HUNTER" on the walls in blood.
* CureYourGays: Val's parents sent him to a mental instutition when he was 13, for "wearing boy's clothes" (i.e. for being transgender). It didn't work, of course; he continues to present as male and has a romantic relationship with a woman, Billie.
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* RoomFullOfCrazy: In the mental instutition [[spoiler: where Val is sent after being arrested]], someone has scrawled "LONELY IS THE HUNTER" on the walls in blood.
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* OrphansOrdeal: Shy was raised by a single father, and his financial problems start after his father dies. Val was given up for adoption and adopted by a family that put him in a mental institution when he was 12 for being transgender.
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* OrphansOrdeal: Shy was raised by a single father, and his financial problems start after his father dies. Val was given up for adoption and adopted by a family that put him in a mental institution when he was 12 13 for being transgender.
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* OrphansOrdeal: Shy was raised by a single father, and his financial problems start after his father dies.dies. Val was given up for adoption and adopted by a family that put him in a mental institution when he was 12 for being transgender.
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* NiceShoes: Several characters remark, positively and negatively, on Shy's full brogues.
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* PunkRock: The soundtrack features a lot of punk and [[Queercore]] bands, including Silas Howard's own band, Tribe8.
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* PunkRock: The soundtrack features a lot of punk and [[Queercore]] {{Queercore}} bands, including Silas Howard's own band, Tribe8.
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* QueerCharacterQueerActor: Shy is played by a trans man (Silas Howard) and Val is played by a transmasculine non-binary person (Harry Dodge). Both characters are implicitly trans, using male pronouns and words like "guy" and "man" to refer to each other, although the words "trans", "transgender", or "transsexual" are not actually used anywhere in the film.
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* QueerCharacterQueerActor: Shy is and Val are both played by a trans man men (Silas Howard) Howard and Val is played by a transmasculine non-binary person (Harry Dodge).Harry Dodge, respectively). Both characters are implicitly trans, using male pronouns and words like "guy" and "man" to refer to each other, although the words "trans", "transgender", or "transsexual" are not actually used anywhere in the film.
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''By Hook Or By Crook'' is a 2001 queer buddy film, directed by, written by, and starring Creator/SilasHoward and Creator/HarryDodge. It was their first film, although Harry Dodge would go on to collaborate on many more film and video art projects with Creator/StanyaKahn, who also stars in this film and wrote all of her character's dialogue.
Shy (Silas Howard) receives a foreclosure notice for his dead father's house in rural Kansas, and plans to rob a bank to make enough money to save his home. He hitchhikes to San Francisco, where he meets Valentine (Harry Dodge) and his partner Billie (Stanya Kahn), and together they engage in small-scale crimes while plotting their big break.
The film has been linked to the NewQueerCinema movement, and is one of the first works of fiction directed by trans directors about trans subjects.
It is available for free on [[https://vimeo.com/112778241 Vimeo]].
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!!This film provides examples of:
* AmbiguousDisorder: Valentine is mentally ill, but no specific diagnosis is mentioned. This is PlayedForDrama in the climax of the film, when he is [[spoiler:thrown into a mental institution after an encounter with the police]].
* BankRobbery: After seeing a news report about a bank robbery on TV, Shy decides that will be the way he gets enough money to save his home. [[spoiler:He doesn't end up robbing a bank; in the end, he attempts to hold up a convenience store with a toy gun, and is humiliated by the clerk, not even getting any money.]]
* DreamSequence: A very trippy montage of seemingly unrelated images illustrates [[spoiler:Val's experiences being sedated in the mental hospital.]]
* FamilyOfChoice: Shy, Val, and Billie effectively form a chosen family.
* GayCowboy: Shy and Val wear some fabulously queer Western outfits.
* GeneHunting: Val is adopted, and has been trying for a long time to find his birth mother. Shy helps him out.
* GoodSamaritan: Val is being beaten by an unnamed assailant when Shy pulls his attacker off him, and finally chases the attacker away with a GroinAttack. This is how the two characters meet and become friends.
* OrphansOrdeal: Shy was raised by a single father, and his problems start after his father dies.
* PronounTrouble: Shy and Val usually refer to each other as "he/him", "guy", and "man". However, when interacting with the straight world, sometimes they use feminine pronouns, like in the scene where Shy and Val conspire to rip off a hardware store clerk.
* PunkRock: The soundtrack features a lot of punk and [[Queercore]] bands, including Silas Howard's own band, Tribe8.
* QueerCharacterQueerActor: Shy is played by a trans man (Silas Howard) and Val is played by a transmasculine non-binary person (Harry Dodge). Both characters are implicitly trans, using male pronouns and words like "guy" and "man" to refer to each other, although the words "trans", "transgender", or "transsexual" are not actually used anywhere in the film.
* SharpDressedMan: Shy and Val both often wear suit jackets and ties, although not full three-piece suits.
* ShoutOut:
** In both their introductions, Shy and Val reference Film/TheWizardOfOz. Shy refers to himself as being "like Dorothy, but with biceps and no dog," while Val calls himself the tin man, the lion, and then says "I'm all the guys from that movie."
** Flashbacks to Shy's childhood show him dressed as Superman, flying in his father's arms. In other scenes, he's shown making a Superman pose on a roof, sometimes while wearing a towel as a cape.
** Shy gets the idea to rob a bank from watching a news report on a bank robbery, in which a witness says "It reminded me of that movie, Film/BonnieAndClyde."
* ShortCon: Shy and Val pull off a scheme to defraud a hardware store clerk by returning an item they stole.
* TinCanTelephone: Billie and Val use one of these instead of a doorbell. In one scene, Val insists that Shy use it, to Shy's irritation.
* WelcomeToTheBigCity: In his first day after reaching San Francisco, Shy is forced to sleep on the streets and witnesses a man beating up Val.
Shy (Silas Howard) receives a foreclosure notice for his dead father's house in rural Kansas, and plans to rob a bank to make enough money to save his home. He hitchhikes to San Francisco, where he meets Valentine (Harry Dodge) and his partner Billie (Stanya Kahn), and together they engage in small-scale crimes while plotting their big break.
The film has been linked to the NewQueerCinema movement, and is one of the first works of fiction directed by trans directors about trans subjects.
It is available for free on [[https://vimeo.com/112778241 Vimeo]].
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!!This film provides examples of:
* AmbiguousDisorder: Valentine is mentally ill, but no specific diagnosis is mentioned. This is PlayedForDrama in the climax of the film, when he is [[spoiler:thrown into a mental institution after an encounter with the police]].
* BankRobbery: After seeing a news report about a bank robbery on TV, Shy decides that will be the way he gets enough money to save his home. [[spoiler:He doesn't end up robbing a bank; in the end, he attempts to hold up a convenience store with a toy gun, and is humiliated by the clerk, not even getting any money.]]
* DreamSequence: A very trippy montage of seemingly unrelated images illustrates [[spoiler:Val's experiences being sedated in the mental hospital.]]
* FamilyOfChoice: Shy, Val, and Billie effectively form a chosen family.
* GayCowboy: Shy and Val wear some fabulously queer Western outfits.
* GeneHunting: Val is adopted, and has been trying for a long time to find his birth mother. Shy helps him out.
* GoodSamaritan: Val is being beaten by an unnamed assailant when Shy pulls his attacker off him, and finally chases the attacker away with a GroinAttack. This is how the two characters meet and become friends.
* OrphansOrdeal: Shy was raised by a single father, and his problems start after his father dies.
* PronounTrouble: Shy and Val usually refer to each other as "he/him", "guy", and "man". However, when interacting with the straight world, sometimes they use feminine pronouns, like in the scene where Shy and Val conspire to rip off a hardware store clerk.
* PunkRock: The soundtrack features a lot of punk and [[Queercore]] bands, including Silas Howard's own band, Tribe8.
* QueerCharacterQueerActor: Shy is played by a trans man (Silas Howard) and Val is played by a transmasculine non-binary person (Harry Dodge). Both characters are implicitly trans, using male pronouns and words like "guy" and "man" to refer to each other, although the words "trans", "transgender", or "transsexual" are not actually used anywhere in the film.
* SharpDressedMan: Shy and Val both often wear suit jackets and ties, although not full three-piece suits.
* ShoutOut:
** In both their introductions, Shy and Val reference Film/TheWizardOfOz. Shy refers to himself as being "like Dorothy, but with biceps and no dog," while Val calls himself the tin man, the lion, and then says "I'm all the guys from that movie."
** Flashbacks to Shy's childhood show him dressed as Superman, flying in his father's arms. In other scenes, he's shown making a Superman pose on a roof, sometimes while wearing a towel as a cape.
** Shy gets the idea to rob a bank from watching a news report on a bank robbery, in which a witness says "It reminded me of that movie, Film/BonnieAndClyde."
* ShortCon: Shy and Val pull off a scheme to defraud a hardware store clerk by returning an item they stole.
* TinCanTelephone: Billie and Val use one of these instead of a doorbell. In one scene, Val insists that Shy use it, to Shy's irritation.
* WelcomeToTheBigCity: In his first day after reaching San Francisco, Shy is forced to sleep on the streets and witnesses a man beating up Val.
