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* @/{{Jonn}}: ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheInvincibleTechnomage''. I stopped reading when IronMan comes storming into Hogwarts, during breakfast, and gets angry and Dumbledore for putting his son in danger. The person who put Harry in danger was Harry ''himself''. And Dumbledore's response: does he explain the situation? Does he try to take it someplace more private? Does he act like a harmless eccentric? No, he promptly tries to mind control Iron Man. This is so out of character I literally ''cannot imagine'' canonical Dumbledore doing it.

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* @/{{Jonn}}: ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheInvincibleTechnomage''. I stopped reading when IronMan comes storming into Hogwarts, during breakfast, and gets angry and at Dumbledore for putting his son in danger. The person who put Harry in danger was Harry ''himself''. And Dumbledore's response: does he explain the situation? Does he try to take it someplace more private? Does he act like a harmless eccentric? No, he promptly tries to mind control Iron Man. This is so out of character I literally ''cannot imagine'' canonical Dumbledore doing it.
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* Tropers/DimensionWalker: Chapter 13 of Kingdom Hearts: The Short and Honest Version by NCHammer326. The entire chapter pretty much just consists of mindless ranting. Most of the references in that chapter were completely forced (especially the Pulp Fiction one, which wasn't even executed properly). But that's not the worst part. The worst part is, the people who kept up with it before waited several weeks just for THIS PIECE OF SHIT. He (the author) knows it dragged on, but didn't even do anything to make it better.

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* Tropers/DimensionWalker: Chapter 13 of Kingdom Hearts: The Short and Honest Version by NCHammer326. The entire chapter pretty much just consists of mindless ranting. Most of the references in that chapter were completely forced (especially the Pulp Fiction one, which wasn't even executed properly). But that's not the worst part. The worst part is, the people who kept up with it before waited several weeks just for THIS PIECE OF SHIT. He (the author) knows it dragged on, but didn't even do anything to make it better.better.
* Tropers/SuperSaiyaMan: From the well known and beloved fanfic, ''AMothersLove'' by Lord in the Land of Fire. Okay, I can forgive Four-Tailed Naruto taking down a noob MS Sasuke (even though it was an Infuriating AntiClimax), I can forgive Orochimaru going down so easily. I can forgive [[EnsembleDarkhorse Gaara]]'s death. What I can't forgive? Naruto ''fodderizing'' all of the Akatsuki, ''including'' his counters Pain and Kisame the second he regains the Fox and controls it. Seriously, [[FunWithAcronyms LILOF]] could have made an [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot epic, several chapter spanning arc of a Hokage Naruto who just mastered the Fox taking on Akatsuki]] if he wanted to do it alone. Instead...he fodderizes them in one chapter. Nevermind actually ''justifying'' the [[MoralEventHorizon Uchiha Massacre]] in this universe when they became ProperlyParanoid about Naruto's intentions to their clan after several biased posts. In canon, its rather ambiguous. Here? Konoha deserved that rebellion...but instead Konoha goes on and conquers ''all nations'', Naruto gets a second wife, and starts a Pax Romana. How much more GodModeSue can you ''get''?
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Removed sinkhole(s) to Understatement.


* @/REV6Pilot on FanFic/TheSunSoul. In chapter 22, Ash fights [[PsychoForHire Jessie]] in a battle that ends up with her injured and trapped. Mind you, the Rocket trio is [[{{Understatement}} extremely dangerous]] in this fic, and Ash was almost killed by them on several occasions before then. ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger And he takes her to be treated anyway!]]'' He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how bad the idea is, and we see how dearly he pays for being right later on [[spoiler: when she kills Misty]]. When the author [[WhatTheHellPlayer is called out on it]], he says [[{{Jerkass}} he did it like that because bad things happen in the real world for no damn reason]]. Well, congratulations, Fifty, you managed to lose much more than one reader.

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* @/REV6Pilot on FanFic/TheSunSoul. In chapter 22, Ash fights [[PsychoForHire Jessie]] in a battle that ends up with her injured and trapped. Mind you, the Rocket trio is [[{{Understatement}} extremely dangerous]] dangerous in this fic, and Ash was almost killed by them on several occasions before then. ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger And he takes her to be treated anyway!]]'' He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how bad the idea is, and we see how dearly he pays for being right later on [[spoiler: when she kills Misty]]. When the author [[WhatTheHellPlayer is called out on it]], he says [[{{Jerkass}} he did it like that because bad things happen in the real world for no damn reason]]. Well, congratulations, Fifty, you managed to lose much more than one reader.
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** @/kay4today: I completely agree. What's even worse are the people who claim that they deserved it. I'm pretty disturbed about their pathetic sense of justice and WishFullfillment.

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** @/kay4today: @/{{kay4today}}: I completely agree. What's even worse are the people who claim that they deserved it. I'm pretty disturbed about their pathetic sense of justice and WishFullfillment.WishFulfillment.
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** @/kay4today: I completely agree. What's even worse are the people who claim that they deserved it. I'm pretty disturbed about their pathetic sense of justice and WishFullfillment.
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* Chapter 13 of Kingdom Hearts: The Short and Honest Version by NCHammer326. The entire chapter pretty much just consists of mindless ranting. Most of the references in that chapter were completely forced (especially the Pulp Fiction one, which wasn't even executed properly). But that's not the worst part. The worst part is, the people who kept up with it before waited several weeks just for THIS PIECE OF SHIT. He (the author) knows it dragged on, but didn't even do anything to make it better.

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* Tropers/DimensionWalker: Chapter 13 of Kingdom Hearts: The Short and Honest Version by NCHammer326. The entire chapter pretty much just consists of mindless ranting. Most of the references in that chapter were completely forced (especially the Pulp Fiction one, which wasn't even executed properly). But that's not the worst part. The worst part is, the people who kept up with it before waited several weeks just for THIS PIECE OF SHIT. He (the author) knows it dragged on, but didn't even do anything to make it better.
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* Tropers/OnSoaringWings For the most part I tried to enjoy The Laughing Fox, even though I thought the author was kinda a jerkass (Making a poll for whether he should spare Zabuza, and Haku then telling everyone it didn't matter what they picked, he was still killing them off.) But then there comes a massive MoralEventHorizon that makes the entire series completely unreadable when Batman, John Stewart, Nightwing, and Martian Manhunter are captured by Konoha ninjas where Joker is currently living. The heroes are then [[spoiler: brutally tortured, muliated, and psychologically broken. in the worst ways I could possibly imagine.]] At NO POINT WHATSOEVER does anyone ever question the morality of this action, not even The Third Hokage! DesignatedHero does not even begin to describe it.

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* Tropers/OnSoaringWings For the most part I tried to enjoy The Laughing Fox, even though I thought the author was kinda a jerkass (Making a poll for whether he should spare Zabuza, and Haku then telling everyone it didn't matter what they picked, he was still killing them off.) But then there comes a massive MoralEventHorizon that makes the entire series completely unreadable when Batman, John Stewart, Nightwing, and Martian Manhunter are captured by Konoha ninjas where Joker is currently living. The heroes are then [[spoiler: brutally tortured, muliated, and psychologically broken. in the worst ways I could possibly imagine.]] At NO POINT WHATSOEVER does anyone ever question the morality of this action, not even The Third Hokage! DesignatedHero does not even begin to describe it.it.
* Chapter 13 of Kingdom Hearts: The Short and Honest Version by NCHammer326. The entire chapter pretty much just consists of mindless ranting. Most of the references in that chapter were completely forced (especially the Pulp Fiction one, which wasn't even executed properly). But that's not the worst part. The worst part is, the people who kept up with it before waited several weeks just for THIS PIECE OF SHIT. He (the author) knows it dragged on, but didn't even do anything to make it better.
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I really wanted to add this one.


* Tropers/AckSed: I accepted the [[WeAllLiveInAmerica American focus]] of ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheNightmaresOfFuturesPast''; it's a PeggySue, write what you know, yadda yadda. Further chapters left that behind. That's good. Then he introduced the ignorant Irish terrorists. As someone who lived through the tail-end of TheTroubles, this was in poor taste. I expected far better, especially as he also wrote [[Fanfic/{{Team 8}} my favourite story]].

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* Tropers/AckSed: I accepted the [[WeAllLiveInAmerica American focus]] of ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheNightmaresOfFuturesPast''; it's a PeggySue, write what you know, yadda yadda. Further chapters left that behind. That's good. Then he introduced the ignorant Irish terrorists. As someone who lived through the tail-end of TheTroubles, this was in poor taste. I expected far better, especially as he also wrote [[Fanfic/{{Team 8}} my favourite story]].story]].
* Tropers/OnSoaringWings For the most part I tried to enjoy The Laughing Fox, even though I thought the author was kinda a jerkass (Making a poll for whether he should spare Zabuza, and Haku then telling everyone it didn't matter what they picked, he was still killing them off.) But then there comes a massive MoralEventHorizon that makes the entire series completely unreadable when Batman, John Stewart, Nightwing, and Martian Manhunter are captured by Konoha ninjas where Joker is currently living. The heroes are then [[spoiler: brutally tortured, muliated, and psychologically broken. in the worst ways I could possibly imagine.]] At NO POINT WHATSOEVER does anyone ever question the morality of this action, not even The Third Hokage! DesignatedHero does not even begin to describe it.
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Whole-Thing-bashing.


* Tropers/SimplySimple: Sora, TheMessiah of the KingdomHearts series, turning into a {{Uke}} for an OOC Riku, somehow turned into a snake, in NagaEyes. Was it the vore, the [[SignificantAnagram Saxton Hale]], the [[YouFailBiologyForever horrible depictions of anatomy]]? It's easy: all three combined to make one heaping pile of suck.
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* @/REV6Pilot on TheSunSoul. In chapter 22, Ash fights [[PsychoForHire Jessie]] in a battle that ends up with her injured and trapped. Mind you, the Rocket trio is [[{{Understatement}} extremely dangerous]] in this fic, and Ash was almost killed by them on several occasions before then. ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger And he takes her to be treated anyway!]]'' He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how bad the idea is, and we see how dearly he pays for being right later on [[spoiler: when she kills Misty]]. When the author [[WhatTheHellPlayer is called out on it]], he says [[{{Jerkass}} he did it like that because bad things happen in the real world for no damn reason]]. Well, congratulations, Fifty, you managed to lose much more than one reader.

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* @/REV6Pilot on TheSunSoul.FanFic/TheSunSoul. In chapter 22, Ash fights [[PsychoForHire Jessie]] in a battle that ends up with her injured and trapped. Mind you, the Rocket trio is [[{{Understatement}} extremely dangerous]] in this fic, and Ash was almost killed by them on several occasions before then. ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger And he takes her to be treated anyway!]]'' He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how bad the idea is, and we see how dearly he pays for being right later on [[spoiler: when she kills Misty]]. When the author [[WhatTheHellPlayer is called out on it]], he says [[{{Jerkass}} he did it like that because bad things happen in the real world for no damn reason]]. Well, congratulations, Fifty, you managed to lose much more than one reader.
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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? [[CompleteMonster Absolutely not]]. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembering of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. The protaganist has practically become a prime example of a DesignatedHero with this action, and has been warped beyond recognition from his canonical counterpart. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever the auther [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into ([[DeadFic assuming he's still churning out this filth]]). It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous).ridiculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement treatment of the Black Bunnies ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? [[CompleteMonster Absolutely not]]. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembering remembrance of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. The protaganist has practically become a prime example of a DesignatedHero with this action, and has been warped beyond recognition from his canonical counterpart. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever the auther [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into ([[DeadFic assuming he's still churning out this filth]]). It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]
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* Tropers/SimplySimple: Sora, TheMessiah of the KingdomHearts series, turning into a {{Uke}} for an OOC Riku, somehow turned into a snake, in NagaEyes. Was it the vore, the [[SignificantAnagram Saxton Hale]], the [[YouFailBiologyForever horrible depictions of anatomy]]? It's easy: all three combined to make one heaping pile of suck.

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* Tropers/SimplySimple: Sora, TheMessiah of the KingdomHearts series, turning into a {{Uke}} for an OOC Riku, somehow turned into a snake, in NagaEyes. Was it the vore, the [[SignificantAnagram Saxton Hale]], the [[YouFailBiologyForever horrible depictions of anatomy]]? It's easy: all three combined to make one heaping pile of suck.suck.
*Tropers/AckSed: I accepted the [[WeAllLiveInAmerica American focus]] of ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheNightmaresOfFuturesPast''; it's a PeggySue, write what you know, yadda yadda. Further chapters left that behind. That's good. Then he introduced the ignorant Irish terrorists. As someone who lived through the tail-end of TheTroubles, this was in poor taste. I expected far better, especially as he also wrote [[Fanfic/{{Team 8}} my favourite story]].
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* Tropers/TheElectricPiper: AGirlWhoBroughtDownTheWorld crossed the line when it was revealed that the CWC-expy was created by God as a drunken joke.

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* Tropers/TheElectricPiper: AGirlWhoBroughtDownTheWorld crossed the line when it was revealed that the CWC-expy was created by God as a drunken joke.joke.
* Tropers/SimplySimple: Sora, TheMessiah of the KingdomHearts series, turning into a {{Uke}} for an OOC Riku, somehow turned into a snake, in NagaEyes. Was it the vore, the [[SignificantAnagram Saxton Hale]], the [[YouFailBiologyForever horrible depictions of anatomy]]? It's easy: all three combined to make one heaping pile of suck.
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Migrated from the Web Original page, as promised. It\'s among its own now...


** @/TheDogSage: Not to mention that 50caliberchaos is wrong. It didn't happen for 'no damn reason'. It happened because Ash decided to help an enemy whose attempted to kill him and those he cares for on several occasions. His ''explanation'' is just a [[AssPull cop-out]], something that authors use whenever they want to try and justify a ShockingSwerve. And having the character holding the IdiotBall [[LampshadeHanging hang a lampshade]] on it just makes it worse.

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** @/TheDogSage: Not to mention that 50caliberchaos is wrong. It didn't happen for 'no damn reason'. It happened because Ash decided to help an enemy whose attempted to kill him and those he cares for on several occasions. His ''explanation'' is just a [[AssPull cop-out]], something that authors use whenever they want to try and justify a ShockingSwerve. And having the character holding the IdiotBall [[LampshadeHanging hang a lampshade]] on it just makes it worse.worse.
* Tropers/TheElectricPiper: AGirlWhoBroughtDownTheWorld crossed the line when it was revealed that the CWC-expy was created by God as a drunken joke.
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I think they count as more than one moment.


* @/{{Jonn}}: ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheInvincibleTechnomage''. I stopped reading when IronMan comes storming into Hogwarts, during breakfast, and gets angry and Dumbledore for putting his son in danger. The person who put Harry in danger was Harry ''himself''. And Dumbledore's response: does he explain the situation? Does he try to take it someplace more private? Does he act like a harmless eccentric? No, he promptly tries to mind control Iron Man. This is so out of character I literally ''cannot imagine'' canonical Dumbledore doing it. Note that I said "stopped". That's not [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155109.html the first]] DarthWiki/WallBanger [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155612.html I found]].

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* @/{{Jonn}}: ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheInvincibleTechnomage''. I stopped reading when IronMan comes storming into Hogwarts, during breakfast, and gets angry and Dumbledore for putting his son in danger. The person who put Harry in danger was Harry ''himself''. And Dumbledore's response: does he explain the situation? Does he try to take it someplace more private? Does he act like a harmless eccentric? No, he promptly tries to mind control Iron Man. This is so out of character I literally ''cannot imagine'' canonical Dumbledore doing it. Note that I said "stopped". That's not [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155109.html the first]] DarthWiki/WallBanger [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155612.html I found]].
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I\'m pretty sure that\'s not permitted even on Darth Wiki pages.


* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? [[CompleteMonster Absolutely not]]. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembering of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. The protaganist has practically become a prime example of a DesignatedHero with this action, and has been warped beyond recognition from his canonical counterpart. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever the auther [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into ([[DeadFic assuming he's still churning out this filth]]). It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? [[CompleteMonster Absolutely not]]. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembering of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. The protaganist has practically become a prime example of a DesignatedHero with this action, and has been warped beyond recognition from his canonical counterpart. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever the auther [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into ([[DeadFic assuming he's still churning out this filth]]). It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]
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* @/REV6Pilot on TheSunSoul. In chapter 22, Ash fights [[HeroKiller Jessie]] in a battle that ends up with her injured and trapped. Mind you, the Rocket trio is [[{{Understatement}} extremely dangerous]] in this fic, and Ash was almost killed by them on several occasions before then. ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger And he takes her to be treated anyway!]]'' He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how bad the idea is, and we see how dearly he pays for being right later on [[spoiler: when she kills Misty]]. When the author [[WhatTheHellPlayer is called out on it]], he says [[{{Jerkass}} he did it like that because bad things happen in the real world for no damn reason]]. Well, congratulations, Fifty, you managed to lose much more than one reader.
** @/TheDogSage Not to mention that 50caliberchaos is wrong. It didn't happen for 'no damn reason'. It happened because Ash decided to help an enemy whose attempted to kill him and those he cares for on several occasions. His ''explaination'' is just a [[AssPull cop-out]], something that authors use whenever they want to try and justify a ShockingSwerve. And having the character holding the IdiotBall [[LampshadeHanging hang a lampshade]] on it just makes it worse.

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* @/REV6Pilot on TheSunSoul. In chapter 22, Ash fights [[HeroKiller [[PsychoForHire Jessie]] in a battle that ends up with her injured and trapped. Mind you, the Rocket trio is [[{{Understatement}} extremely dangerous]] in this fic, and Ash was almost killed by them on several occasions before then. ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger And he takes her to be treated anyway!]]'' He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how bad the idea is, and we see how dearly he pays for being right later on [[spoiler: when she kills Misty]]. When the author [[WhatTheHellPlayer is called out on it]], he says [[{{Jerkass}} he did it like that because bad things happen in the real world for no damn reason]]. Well, congratulations, Fifty, you managed to lose much more than one reader.
** @/TheDogSage @/TheDogSage: Not to mention that 50caliberchaos is wrong. It didn't happen for 'no damn reason'. It happened because Ash decided to help an enemy whose attempted to kill him and those he cares for on several occasions. His ''explaination'' ''explanation'' is just a [[AssPull cop-out]], something that authors use whenever they want to try and justify a ShockingSwerve. And having the character holding the IdiotBall [[LampshadeHanging hang a lampshade]] on it just makes it worse.
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** @/TheDogSage Not to mention that 50caliberchaos is wrong. It didn't happen for 'no damn reason'. It happened because Ash decided to help an enemy whose attempted to kill him and those he cares for on several occasions. His ''explaination'' is just a [[AssPull cop-out]], something that authors use whenever they want to try and justify a ShockingSwerve. And having the character holding the IdiotBall [[LampshadeHanging hang a lampshade]] on it just makes it worse.
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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? [[CompleteMonster Absolutely not]]. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembering of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[DarthWiki.WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? [[CompleteMonster Absolutely not]]. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembering of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[DarthWiki.WallBanger [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. The protaganist has practically become a prime example of a DesignatedHero with this action, and has been warped beyond recognition from his canonical counterpart. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he the auther [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into.into ([[DeadFic assuming he's still churning out this filth]]). It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]
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* @/REV6Pilot on TheSunSoul. In chapter 22, Ash fights [[HeroKiller Jessie]] in a battle that ends up with her injured and trapped. Mind you, the Rocket trio is [[{{Understatement}} extremely dangerous]] in this fic, and Ash was almost killed by them on several occasions before then. ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger And he takes her to be treated anyway!]]'' He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how bad the idea is, and we see how dearly he pays for being right later on [[spoiler: when she kills Misty]]. When the author [[WhatTheHellPlayer is called out on it]], he says [[{{Jerkass}} he did it like that because bad things happen in the real world for no damn reason]]. Well, congratulations, Fifty, you managed to lose much more than one reader.
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* @/{{Jonn}}: ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheInvincibleTechnomage''. I stopped reading when IronMan comes storming into Hogwarts, during breakfast, and gets angry and Dumbledore for putting his son in danger. The person who put Harry in danger was Harry ''himself''. And Dumbledore's response: does he explain the situation? Does he try to take it someplace more private? Does he act like a harmless eccentric? No, he promptly tries to mind control Iron Man. This is so out of character I literally ''cannot imagine'' canonical Dumbledore doing it. Note that I said "stopped". That's not [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155109.html the first]] DarthWiki/WallBanger [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155612.html I found]].

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* @/{{Jonn}}: ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheInvincibleTechnomage''. I stopped reading when IronMan comes storming into Hogwarts, during breakfast, and gets angry and Dumbledore for putting his son in danger. The person who put Harry in danger was Harry ''himself''. And Dumbledore's response: does he explain the situation? Does he try to take it someplace more private? Does he act like a harmless eccentric? No, he promptly tries to mind control Iron Man. This is so out of character I literally ''cannot imagine'' canonical Dumbledore doing it. Note that I said "stopped". That's not [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155109.html the first]] DarthWiki/WallBanger [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155612.html I found]].found]].
* @/{{Mokyn}}- A HowToTrainYourDragon fan fic known as Principles and Elements was one I was actually very much enjoying the first time I read it. It's an AU of the movie that also fits in supernatural elements of witches and vampires to add to the dragons, and while not OMG!FANTASTIC, I was finding it very enjoyable. Until about chapter 14 or so (My memory is foggy on this). During a big battle between many of these supernatural factions, there is a sentence that says [[spoiler: "Bodies fell to the ground like prisoners in a concentration camp."]] Buh... WHAT?! I'm reading a fun adventure with dragons and witches and things, and the author suddenly decides to pull out Holocaust references?! I had only recently watched ''Night and Fog'' at the time, a documentary showing just how gruesome the concentration camps were, so I I immediately got the images of that in my head and back-buttoned out of the fic right then and have yet to return to it. The most annoying thing? They could just written, "Bodies fell to the ground" and ''the story would not be affected''. They used a horrible, horrible moment of human history for A THROWAWAY SENTENCE! This still bothers me even after months of leaving the fic behind.
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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? [[CompleteMonster Absolutely not]]. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembering of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger ''[[DarthWiki.WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? [[CompleteMonster Absolutely not]]. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembering of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger [[DarthWiki.WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]
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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? [[CompleteMonster Absolutely not]]. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembering of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]
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* @/{{Jonn}}: ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheInvincibleTechnomage''. I stopped reading when IronMan comes storming into Hogwarts, during breakfast, and gets angry and Dumbledore for putting his son in danger. The person who put Harry in danger was Harry ''himself''. And Dumbledore's response: does he explain the situation? Does he try to take it someplace more private? Does he act like a harmless eccentric? No, he promptly tries to mind control Iron Man. This is so out of character I literally ''cannot imagine'' canonical Dumbledore doing it. Note that I said "stopped". That's not [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155109.html the first]] WallBanger [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155612.html I found]].

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* @/{{Jonn}}: ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheInvincibleTechnomage''. I stopped reading when IronMan comes storming into Hogwarts, during breakfast, and gets angry and Dumbledore for putting his son in danger. The person who put Harry in danger was Harry ''himself''. And Dumbledore's response: does he explain the situation? Does he try to take it someplace more private? Does he act like a harmless eccentric? No, he promptly tries to mind control Iron Man. This is so out of character I literally ''cannot imagine'' canonical Dumbledore doing it. Note that I said "stopped". That's not [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155109.html the first]] WallBanger DarthWiki/WallBanger [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155612.html I found]].
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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]it?]]
* @/{{Jonn}}: ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheInvincibleTechnomage''. I stopped reading when IronMan comes storming into Hogwarts, during breakfast, and gets angry and Dumbledore for putting his son in danger. The person who put Harry in danger was Harry ''himself''. And Dumbledore's response: does he explain the situation? Does he try to take it someplace more private? Does he act like a harmless eccentric? No, he promptly tries to mind control Iron Man. This is so out of character I literally ''cannot imagine'' canonical Dumbledore doing it. Note that I said "stopped". That's not [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155109.html the first]] WallBanger [[http://mcity.livejournal.com/155612.html I found]].
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* Explain ''why'' it's a DethroningMomentOfSuck.

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity rediculously awesome]], yet [[MoralDissonance unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity rediculously ridiculously awesome]], yet [[MoralDissonance [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]]
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* While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity rediculously awesome]], yet [[MoralDissonance unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. But the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides how he'll deal with them: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed on this very site that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]] ~ @/KingClark

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity rediculously awesome]], yet [[MoralDissonance unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. But Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them: them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed on this very site that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]] ~ @/KingClarkit?]]
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* While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity rediculously awesome]], yet [[MoralDissonance unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. But the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides how he'll deal with them: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed on this very site that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]] ~ @/KingClark

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* While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity rediculously awesome]], yet [[MoralDissonance unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. But the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides how he'll deal with them: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed on this very site that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip: [[hottip:*: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]] ~ @/KingClark
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* While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: FanFic/{{Arsenal}}. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity rediculously awesome]], yet [[MoralDissonance unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil HeroicSociopath, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. But the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and straight into CompleteMonster territory (supposedly, this is YourMileageMayVary material; I don't buy it) and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protaganist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as [[CompleteMonster extremely immoral and evil]], and Shinji decides how he'll deal with them: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even '''Misato''', who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as ''thinks'' about her past. This is easily the ''least'' harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave (yes, [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer you read that correctly]]) for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly '''BECAUSE HE''' '''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]]''' '''CAN'''. ItGetsWorse, [[BeyondTheImpossible though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly rediculous). Finally, a man decides to '''use her as a toilet''', all while she can only beg for death.]] Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatement of the Black Bunnies ''[[WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]''. And remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[WallBanger This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed on this very site that ''he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them''. No one, not even the worst of CompleteMonster[=s=], should experience fates as disturbing as these. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever he [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into. It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[hottip: Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?]] ~ @/KingClark

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