History DethroningMoment / Fanfic

6th May '18 6:36:58 PM Malady
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** WhyNotNow: There were a lot of stupid moments that came before this one, such as Dumbledore's conviction that Harry was another child Hitler, the more complicated use of words and terms that distances itself from the original ''HarryPotter'' lore, Harry threatening Hermione over something she never did in the future, Mr. Granger's CharacterDerailment, but they were still small moments that I could overlook because the quality of the story was good. Then... came this moment. Charlie Weasley threatens to murder Harry. That's not an exaggeration, that's not an overstatement, he literally comes out and tells Harry that if he hurts Ginny, he'll feed him to a dragon just to get rid of the evidence. And I thought Mr. Granger was portrayed negatively. This is far from AlternateCharacterInterpretation; this right here is character assassination, and FridgeHorror quickly abounds when you wonder if the author himself would ever make these death threats to potential suitors of his children, if he has any. I could live with the stupidity before, but I cannot live with this. I'm done with this story.

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** WhyNotNow: There were a lot of stupid moments that came before this one, such as Dumbledore's conviction that Harry was another child Hitler, the more complicated use of words and terms that distances itself from the original ''HarryPotter'' ''Literature/HarryPotter'' lore, Harry threatening Hermione over something she never did in the future, Mr. Granger's CharacterDerailment, but they were still small moments that I could overlook because the quality of the story was good. Then... came this moment. Charlie Weasley threatens to murder Harry. That's not an exaggeration, that's not an overstatement, he literally comes out and tells Harry that if he hurts Ginny, he'll feed him to a dragon just to get rid of the evidence. And I thought Mr. Granger was portrayed negatively. This is far from AlternateCharacterInterpretation; this right here is character assassination, and FridgeHorror quickly abounds when you wonder if the author himself would ever make these death threats to potential suitors of his children, if he has any. I could live with the stupidity before, but I cannot live with this. I'm done with this story.



* Tropers/BrendanDRizzo: I can honestly say that I stopped reading ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' at the point where Harry talks back to Snape during his Potions class. Yes, Snape was being an asshole, and yes, Harry had the right not to have to put up with it, but there were better ways of dealing with it than causing a temper tantrum and only serving to make the SadistTeacher seem justified in hating your guts. That being said, the reason I stopped reading? I could not foresee any way that the author could have avoided having Harry get in big trouble for this, meaning that he would be forced to use an AssPull, thoroughly turning Harry into a GaryStu, so I quit reading to spare myself this. In other words, it's not the event in itself that makes it the Dethroning Moment, but the way it was handled.

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* Tropers/BrendanDRizzo: @/BrendanDRizzo: I can honestly say that I stopped reading ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' at the point where Harry talks back to Snape during his Potions class. Yes, Snape was being an asshole, and yes, Harry had the right not to have to put up with it, but there were better ways of dealing with it than causing a temper tantrum and only serving to make the SadistTeacher seem justified in hating your guts. That being said, the reason I stopped reading? I could not foresee any way that the author could have avoided having Harry get in big trouble for this, meaning that he would be forced to use an AssPull, thoroughly turning Harry into a GaryStu, so I quit reading to spare myself this. In other words, it's not the event in itself that makes it the Dethroning Moment, but the way it was handled.
13th Apr '18 8:27:02 AM Peridonyx
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* Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fic [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/194325/the-life-of-death The Life of Death]] starts off promising enough... but eventually enters "cheap shock value" territory when the PowersThatBe reveal themselves as such LawfulStupid [[KnightTemplar Knights Templar]] that they're willing to condemn even drafted soldiers to eternal damnation for "murder" (i.e., being forced to kill out of necessity, self-defense, etc.). And when the {{Psychopomp}} protagonist enters a HeroicBSOD and justifiably calls them out on it, they just shoot her down with the NoSympathy excuse that emotion can't dictate the laws of nature... and that's it -- she just accepts it, no questions asked (albeit with extreme sorrow). After this, the overall setting suddenly became riddled with so much FridgeHorror that I just invoked ScrewThisImOuttaHere, and I haven't looked back since.

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* Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fic [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/194325/the-life-of-death The Life of Death]] starts off promising enough... but eventually enters "cheap shock value" territory when the PowersThatBe reveal themselves as such LawfulStupid [[KnightTemplar Knights Templar]] that they're willing to condemn even drafted soldiers to eternal damnation for "murder" (i.e., : being forced to kill out of necessity, self-defense, etc.). And when the {{Psychopomp}} protagonist enters a HeroicBSOD and justifiably calls them out on it, they just shoot her down with the NoSympathy excuse that emotion can't dictate the laws of nature... and that's it -- it; she just accepts it, no questions asked (albeit with extreme sorrow). After this, the overall setting suddenly became riddled with so much FridgeHorror that I just invoked ScrewThisImOuttaHere, and I haven't looked back since.
14th Mar '18 11:34:31 AM DecafGrub47393
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* @Dragonking56: I have mixed feelings for Maggiesheartlove's ''Fanfic/TheLittlePonyLegend''. While I am a HUGE fan of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', the fanfic series overall is just...meh. One particularly glaring flaw is that Maggie tends to [[HeelFaceTurn reform]] most, if not all, of her villains and give them the EasilyForgiven treatment, which is not how real life works. The author needs to "[[IronicEcho open up her eyes]]" and realize that sometimes, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop people cannot be reasoned with and can only be put down with violence]]. Another elephant in the room (or in this case, fanfic) is that the author seems to be prejudiced against LGBTQ+ people, as evidenced in [[http://avatar-dacia.tumblr.com/post/141538475854/the-truth-as-they-say-will-out-ive-blurred these]] [[http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=15_pegasisterfliestruecolors.png posts]]. I mean, what does she have against them? Just because someone is of a different sexual orientation does not mean that they're not, y'know, ''human''. And finally, the shipping. Hoo boy. I can't avoid this forever, so I'll give you the basics: As much as I supported Makorra back when Korra was still on the air, I understood why it had to end, and I was fine with it. But what I don't get is what Maggie has against [[BiTheWay Korrasami]]; Asami was Korra's closest confidant and supporter while she was recovering from the wounds Zaheer gave her, plus she's proven to be one of the nicest, sweetest characters in the show. What makes it even funnier is that My Little Pony features similar relationshps, yet Maggie seems to have no problem with the bonds between the Mane 6. Also, why can't she, oh I don't know, "love and tolerate" the ending of Korra like any other brony/pegasister would instead of [[TakeThat making offhand insults about it in her fic]]? And why can't she accept that her OTP failed because [[StrangledByTheRedString the two members were incompatible with each other]]? Look, long story short, if you want to enjoy both MLP and Korra, ''watch them separately''. This fanfic series is plagued with these faults, and, if you're like me, will leave you in a sour mood upon completion.

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* @Dragonking56: I have mixed feelings for Maggiesheartlove's ''Fanfic/TheLittlePonyLegend''. While I am a HUGE fan of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', the fanfic series overall is just...meh. One particularly glaring flaw is that Maggie tends to [[HeelFaceTurn reform]] most, if not all, of her villains and give them the EasilyForgiven treatment, which is not how real life works. The author needs to "[[IronicEcho open up her eyes]]" and realize that sometimes, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop people cannot be reasoned with and can only be put down with violence]]. Another elephant in the room (or in this case, fanfic) is that the author seems to be prejudiced against LGBTQ+ people, as evidenced in [[http://avatar-dacia.tumblr.com/post/141538475854/the-truth-as-they-say-will-out-ive-blurred these]] [[http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=15_pegasisterfliestruecolors.png posts]]. I mean, what does she have against them? Just because someone is of a different sexual orientation does not mean that they're not, y'know, ''human''. And finally, the shipping. Hoo boy. I can't avoid this forever, so I'll give you the basics: As much as I supported Makorra back when Korra was still on the air, I understood why it had to end, and I was fine with it. But what I don't get is what Maggie has against [[BiTheWay Korrasami]]; Asami was Korra's closest confidant and supporter while she was recovering from the wounds Zaheer gave her, plus she's proven to be one of the nicest, sweetest characters in the show. What makes it even funnier is that My Little Pony features similar relationshps, yet Maggie seems to have no problem with the bonds between the Mane 6. Also, why can't she, oh I don't know, "love and tolerate" the ending of Korra like any other brony/pegasister would instead of [[TakeThat making offhand insults about it in her fic]]? And why can't she accept that her OTP failed because [[StrangledByTheRedString the two members were incompatible with each other]]? Look, long story short, if you want to enjoy both MLP and Korra, ''watch them separately''. This fanfic series is plagued with these faults, and, if you're like me, will leave you in a sour mood upon completion.completion.
* Tropers/DecafGrub47393: At first I thought that the 16-bit remake of Super Mario Frustration might be a massive improvement over Blackout's [[VideoGame/HammerBrother other work]]. Slowly, I was being proven wrong. First, he didn't take advantage of VideoGame/SuperMarioAllStars assets. I slugged on, altering the hack during the first level. I continued playing, hoping it would get better. The moment that made me consider this [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer worse than Hammer Brother]] came in World 2's equivalent of where Donut Secret 1 would be in Vanilla. Let's just say having to alter the hack twice was really maddening. At least Hammer Brother is clearable with only one alteration. A quick look into Lunar Magic reveals that the coins stay coins when you use a P-Switch. I then quit this fangame.
17th Feb '18 3:32:53 PM Dragonking56
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%%* @ClatoLwa: My feelings on ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugVsTheForcesOfEvil'' tend to hover between "kinda clumsy and frustrating" and "really fucking stupid", and the moment that cemented the story as the latter for me was when Star and Marco, having found out Marinette's secret, ask her why she didn't tell them herself. It's bad enough that her answer isn't, "Because I've known you for a matter of days and I didn't actually invite you to move in here." It's also bad enough that she doesn't point out the obvious security risk given that they're fighting someone with mind control powers, who could easily get the secret from them if they were ever akumatised (as Star was earlier). But what's infuriatingly bad that she brings up Tikki warning her to keep it a secret, only to follow up with "I don't know why I need to keep it a secret", and Tikki making no effort to answer either (or indeed say anything for the rest of the chapter). It leaves me with the impression that the author just plain doesn't have the imagination to understand how secret identities work, which would be supported a few chapters later by an uncharacteristic display of GenreBlindness from Alya.%%

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%%* @ClatoLwa: My feelings on ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugVsTheForcesOfEvil'' tend to hover between "kinda clumsy and frustrating" and "really fucking stupid", and the moment that cemented the story as the latter for me was when Star and Marco, having found out Marinette's secret, ask her why she didn't tell them herself. It's bad enough that her answer isn't, "Because I've known you for a matter of days and I didn't actually invite you to move in here." It's also bad enough that she doesn't point out the obvious security risk given that they're fighting someone with mind control powers, who could easily get the secret from them if they were ever akumatised (as Star was earlier). But what's infuriatingly bad that she brings up Tikki warning her to keep it a secret, only to follow up with "I don't know why I need to keep it a secret", and Tikki making no effort to answer either (or indeed say anything for the rest of the chapter). It leaves me with the impression that the author just plain doesn't have the imagination to understand how secret identities work, which would be supported a few chapters later by an uncharacteristic display of GenreBlindness from Alya.%%%%
* @Dragonking56: I have mixed feelings for Maggiesheartlove's ''Fanfic/TheLittlePonyLegend''. While I am a HUGE fan of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', the fanfic series overall is just...meh. One particularly glaring flaw is that Maggie tends to [[HeelFaceTurn reform]] most, if not all, of her villains and give them the EasilyForgiven treatment, which is not how real life works. The author needs to "[[IronicEcho open up her eyes]]" and realize that sometimes, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop people cannot be reasoned with and can only be put down with violence]]. Another elephant in the room (or in this case, fanfic) is that the author seems to be prejudiced against LGBTQ+ people, as evidenced in [[http://avatar-dacia.tumblr.com/post/141538475854/the-truth-as-they-say-will-out-ive-blurred these]] [[http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=15_pegasisterfliestruecolors.png posts]]. I mean, what does she have against them? Just because someone is of a different sexual orientation does not mean that they're not, y'know, ''human''. And finally, the shipping. Hoo boy. I can't avoid this forever, so I'll give you the basics: As much as I supported Makorra back when Korra was still on the air, I understood why it had to end, and I was fine with it. But what I don't get is what Maggie has against [[BiTheWay Korrasami]]; Asami was Korra's closest confidant and supporter while she was recovering from the wounds Zaheer gave her, plus she's proven to be one of the nicest, sweetest characters in the show. What makes it even funnier is that My Little Pony features similar relationshps, yet Maggie seems to have no problem with the bonds between the Mane 6. Also, why can't she, oh I don't know, "love and tolerate" the ending of Korra like any other brony/pegasister would instead of [[TakeThat making offhand insults about it in her fic]]? And why can't she accept that her OTP failed because [[StrangledByTheRedString the two members were incompatible with each other]]? Look, long story short, if you want to enjoy both MLP and Korra, ''watch them separately''. This fanfic series is plagued with these faults, and, if you're like me, will leave you in a sour mood upon completion.
3rd Feb '18 3:56:57 PM Dragonking56
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* @ClatoLwa: My feelings on ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugVsTheForcesOfEvil'' tend to hover between "kinda clumsy and frustrating" and "really fucking stupid", and the moment that cemented the story as the latter for me was when Star and Marco, having found out Marinette's secret, ask her why she didn't tell them herself. It's bad enough that her answer isn't, "Because I've known you for a matter of days and I didn't actually invite you to move in here." It's also bad enough that she doesn't point out the obvious security risk given that they're fighting someone with mind control powers, who could easily get the secret from them if they were ever akumatised (as Star was earlier). But what's infuriatingly bad that she brings up Tikki warning her to keep it a secret, only to follow up with "I don't know why I need to keep it a secret", and Tikki making no effort to answer either (or indeed say anything for the rest of the chapter). It leaves me with the impression that the author just plain doesn't have the imagination to understand how secret identities work, which would be supported a few chapters later by an uncharacteristic display of GenreBlindness from Alya.

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* %%* @ClatoLwa: My feelings on ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugVsTheForcesOfEvil'' tend to hover between "kinda clumsy and frustrating" and "really fucking stupid", and the moment that cemented the story as the latter for me was when Star and Marco, having found out Marinette's secret, ask her why she didn't tell them herself. It's bad enough that her answer isn't, "Because I've known you for a matter of days and I didn't actually invite you to move in here." It's also bad enough that she doesn't point out the obvious security risk given that they're fighting someone with mind control powers, who could easily get the secret from them if they were ever akumatised (as Star was earlier). But what's infuriatingly bad that she brings up Tikki warning her to keep it a secret, only to follow up with "I don't know why I need to keep it a secret", and Tikki making no effort to answer either (or indeed say anything for the rest of the chapter). It leaves me with the impression that the author just plain doesn't have the imagination to understand how secret identities work, which would be supported a few chapters later by an uncharacteristic display of GenreBlindness from Alya.%%
18th Jan '18 4:48:12 AM ClatoLawa
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* Tropers/ClatoLawa: While I hesitate to lump this story or its author in with the likes of Mykan, the ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' fic ''Bring Me Home'' has quickly become one of my most unpleasant experiences since I started reading fanfiction. Truth be told, I had problems with it right from the start, due to perhaps unfair comparisons with other ''Miraculous'' fics along similar lines (the heroes get separated in the aftermath of Hawkmoth's defeat without getting to reveal their identities, only to be reunited years later [[Fanfic/{{Fermeture}} with]] [[Fanfic/SomethingInTheNight wildly]] [[Fanfic/BackToUs varying]] [[Fanfic/RuinedWithYou results]]), but I stuck with it in the hopes that the inevitable reveal and Marinette's reaction to Chat Noir's abandonment would be worth it. For the record, [[WhatTheHellHero/FanWorks it was]], and at this point I was honest-to-God excited about where this could be going - in particular, the possibility of Marinette making up for her own mistake in shutting out Alya and her parents for so long. Instead, we get Marinette, having walked out on Adrien, once again refusing to go to anyone else for help, before getting herself into an incredibly contrived car crash for Adrien to rescue her from, thus forcing her to let go of her anger and rushing the two into a reconciliation barely a third of the way through the story. But the moment that pushed the story from merely disappointing to irredeemable for me, was that when Tikki alerts Adrien to the accident, he repeatedly refuses to put his Miraculous back on, even after being told that he's going to need Cataclysm to get her out of the car, because he wants to avoid Plagg's anger. Yes, obviously he puts it on in time and goes on to rescue her, but the fact remains that his first instinct was to once again put the pain that he wants to avoid, above the pain that he knows someone else is going through, which is exactly what he had been doing to Ladybug the last five years and had just learned the consequences of last night. The fact that he needed Tikki to verbally beat this into him killed all the power this would have had as a redemption moment, and since neither Tikki or Adrien told Marinette that part after she woke up, it taints every theoretically romantic moment Marinette and Adrien have had since, or will ever have for the rest of the story.

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* Tropers/ClatoLawa: While I hesitate to lump this story or its author (who I have enjoyed other stories from in the past) in with the likes of Mykan, the ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' fic ''Bring Me Home'' has quickly become one of my most unpleasant experiences since I started reading fanfiction. Truth be told, I had problems with it right from the start, due to perhaps unfair comparisons with other ''Miraculous'' fics along similar lines (the heroes get separated in the aftermath of Hawkmoth's defeat without getting to reveal their identities, only to be reunited years later [[Fanfic/{{Fermeture}} with]] [[Fanfic/SomethingInTheNight wildly]] [[Fanfic/BackToUs varying]] [[Fanfic/RuinedWithYou results]]), but I stuck with it in the hopes that the inevitable reveal and Marinette's reaction to Chat Noir's abandonment would be worth it. For the record, [[WhatTheHellHero/FanWorks it was]], and at this point I was honest-to-God excited about where this could be going - in particular, the possibility of Marinette making up for her own mistake in shutting out Alya and her parents for so long. Instead, we get Marinette, having walked out on Adrien, once again refusing to go to anyone else for help, before getting herself into an incredibly contrived car crash for Adrien to rescue her from, thus forcing her to let go of her anger and rushing the two into a reconciliation barely a third of the way through the story. But the moment that pushed the story from merely disappointing to irredeemable for me, was that when Tikki alerts Adrien to the accident, he repeatedly refuses to put his Miraculous back on, even after being told that he's going to need Cataclysm to get her out of the car, because he wants to avoid Plagg's anger. Yes, obviously he puts it on in time and goes on to rescue her, but the fact remains that his first instinct was to once again put the pain that he wants to avoid, above the pain that he knows someone else is going through, which is exactly what he had been doing to Ladybug the last five years and had just learned the consequences of last night. The fact that he needed Tikki to verbally beat this into him killed all the power this would have had as a redemption moment, and since neither Tikki or Adrien told Marinette that part after she woke up, it taints every theoretically romantic moment Marinette and Adrien have had since, or will ever have for the rest of the story.



* [=SenorCornholio=]: At long last... the crowned turd atop Creator/DakariKingMykan's steaming pile. Gentlemen, I introduce you to ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsFailure'', a series that tries (and fails) to teach that friendship can't always solve everything. Nothing special, right? Then comes the tenth story, which is essentially ''Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds'' but with the MLP cast thrown right in for no good reason other than torment. Sounds like he's treading old ground, right? Nothing to get up in arms over? Well... the red flag this time is that one of the tags is listed as "gore". Then another red flag shows up when you realize that [[TheChewToy Cadance]] is going to be a main character. The moment in question? Count Logan [[spoiler:[[OffWithHerHead decapitates]] [[WouldHurtAChild Flurry Heart]].]] I wish I could say I was joking. But he did. He finally did something even more despicable than sending planets to their deaths just because others had nice lives; He actively [[spoiler:beheaded a child for all to see]]. And the reason this was included? Because Mykan wasn't "satisfied" with just having [[spoiler:Flurry Heart die with the others in the destruction of Equestria]] (though believe me, that'd only be a slight improvement); he admitted several times over that he wanted to specifically torture Cadance and get a rise out of his haters. This, to me, is not just Count Logan's MoralEventHorizon; this is Creator/DakariKingMykan's. And I'm not the only one who feels this way; it was so bad that even people that tried to defend him and be nice to him ended up leaving him. A user on [=FiMFiction=] that defended Mykan (which, by the way, Mykan [[WhatAnIdiot told him about the event]]) soon took the defending blog down after the story was put up. And all Mykan said to them was, in short, "[[NoSympathy suck it up]]". People often say that Mykan is essentially a Canadian Chris-Chan. I disagree; at least Chris-Chan would draw the line at [[spoiler:baby murder]]. At this point, there is no camel anymore; it's not just without a spine, or fed to Cerberus. It's been [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Hakai'd]] [[DeaderThanDead out of existence]]. There's getting back at haters, and then there's crossing a fine line between internet notoriety and absolute malice.

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* [=SenorCornholio=]: At long last... the crowned turd atop Creator/DakariKingMykan's steaming pile. Gentlemen, I introduce you to ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsFailure'', a series that tries (and fails) to teach that friendship can't always solve everything. Nothing special, right? Then comes the tenth story, which is essentially ''Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds'' but with the MLP cast thrown right in for no good reason other than torment. Sounds like he's treading old ground, right? Nothing to get up in arms over? Well... the red flag this time is that one of the tags is listed as "gore". Then another red flag shows up when you realize that [[TheChewToy Cadance]] is going to be a main character. The moment in question? Count Logan [[spoiler:[[OffWithHerHead decapitates]] [[WouldHurtAChild Flurry Heart]].]] I wish I could say I was joking. But he did. He finally did something even more despicable than sending planets to their deaths just because others had nice lives; He actively [[spoiler:beheaded a child for all to see]]. And the reason this was included? Because Mykan wasn't "satisfied" with just having [[spoiler:Flurry Heart die with the others in the destruction of Equestria]] (though believe me, that'd only be a slight improvement); he admitted several times over that he wanted to specifically torture Cadance and get a rise out of his haters. This, to me, is not just Count Logan's MoralEventHorizon; this is Creator/DakariKingMykan's. And I'm not the only one who feels this way; it was so bad that even people that tried to defend him and be nice to him ended up leaving him. A user on [=FiMFiction=] that defended Mykan (which, by the way, Mykan [[WhatAnIdiot told him about the event]]) soon took the defending blog down after the story was put up. And all Mykan said to them was, in short, "[[NoSympathy suck it up]]". People often say that Mykan is essentially a Canadian Chris-Chan. I disagree; at least Chris-Chan would draw the line at [[spoiler:baby murder]]. At this point, there is no camel anymore; it's not just without a spine, or fed to Cerberus. It's been [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Hakai'd]] [[DeaderThanDead out of existence]]. There's getting back at haters, and then there's crossing a fine line between internet notoriety and absolute malice.malice.
* @ClatoLwa: My feelings on ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugVsTheForcesOfEvil'' tend to hover between "kinda clumsy and frustrating" and "really fucking stupid", and the moment that cemented the story as the latter for me was when Star and Marco, having found out Marinette's secret, ask her why she didn't tell them herself. It's bad enough that her answer isn't, "Because I've known you for a matter of days and I didn't actually invite you to move in here." It's also bad enough that she doesn't point out the obvious security risk given that they're fighting someone with mind control powers, who could easily get the secret from them if they were ever akumatised (as Star was earlier). But what's infuriatingly bad that she brings up Tikki warning her to keep it a secret, only to follow up with "I don't know why I need to keep it a secret", and Tikki making no effort to answer either (or indeed say anything for the rest of the chapter). It leaves me with the impression that the author just plain doesn't have the imagination to understand how secret identities work, which would be supported a few chapters later by an uncharacteristic display of GenreBlindness from Alya.
14th Dec '17 12:59:04 AM ClatoLawa
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* Tropers/ClatoLawa: While I hesitate to lump this story or its author in with the likes of Mykan, the ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' fic ''Bring Me Home'' has quickly become one of my most unpleasant experiences since I started reading fanfiction. Truth be told, I had problems with it right from the start, due to perhaps unfair comparisons with other ''Miraculous'' fics along similar lines (the heroes get separated in the aftermath of Hawkmoth's defeat without getting to reveal their identities, only to be reunited years later [[Fanfic/{{Fermeture}} with]] [[Fanfic/BackToUs varying]] [[Fanfic/RuinedWithYou results]]), but I stuck with it in the hopes that the inevitable reveal and Marinette's reaction to Chat Noir's abandonment would be worth it. For the record, [[WhatTheHellHero/FanWorks it was]], and at this point I was honest-to-God excited about where this could be going - in particular, the possibility of Marinette making up for her own mistake in shutting out Alya and her parents for so long. Instead, we get Marinette, having walked out on Adrien, once again refusing to go to anyone else for help, before getting herself into an incredibly contrived car crash for Adrien to rescue her from, thus forcing her to let go of her anger and rushing the two into a reconciliation barely a third of the way through the story. But the moment that pushed the story from merely disappointing to irredeemable for me, was that when Tikki alerts Adrien to the accident, he repeatedly refuses to put his Miraculous back on, even after being told that he's going to need Cataclysm to get her out of the car, because he wants to avoid Plagg's anger. Yes, obviously he puts it on in time and goes on to rescue her, but the fact remains that his first instinct was to once again put the pain that he wants to avoid, above the pain that he knows someone else is going through, which is exactly what he had been doing to Ladybug the last five years and had just learned the consequences of last night. The fact that he needed Tikki to verbally beat this into him killed all the power this would have had as a redemption moment, and since neither Tikki or Adrien told Marinette that part after she woke up, it taints every theoretically romantic moment Marinette and Adrien have had since, or will ever have for the rest of the story.

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* Tropers/ClatoLawa: While I hesitate to lump this story or its author in with the likes of Mykan, the ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' fic ''Bring Me Home'' has quickly become one of my most unpleasant experiences since I started reading fanfiction. Truth be told, I had problems with it right from the start, due to perhaps unfair comparisons with other ''Miraculous'' fics along similar lines (the heroes get separated in the aftermath of Hawkmoth's defeat without getting to reveal their identities, only to be reunited years later [[Fanfic/{{Fermeture}} with]] [[Fanfic/SomethingInTheNight wildly]] [[Fanfic/BackToUs varying]] [[Fanfic/RuinedWithYou results]]), but I stuck with it in the hopes that the inevitable reveal and Marinette's reaction to Chat Noir's abandonment would be worth it. For the record, [[WhatTheHellHero/FanWorks it was]], and at this point I was honest-to-God excited about where this could be going - in particular, the possibility of Marinette making up for her own mistake in shutting out Alya and her parents for so long. Instead, we get Marinette, having walked out on Adrien, once again refusing to go to anyone else for help, before getting herself into an incredibly contrived car crash for Adrien to rescue her from, thus forcing her to let go of her anger and rushing the two into a reconciliation barely a third of the way through the story. But the moment that pushed the story from merely disappointing to irredeemable for me, was that when Tikki alerts Adrien to the accident, he repeatedly refuses to put his Miraculous back on, even after being told that he's going to need Cataclysm to get her out of the car, because he wants to avoid Plagg's anger. Yes, obviously he puts it on in time and goes on to rescue her, but the fact remains that his first instinct was to once again put the pain that he wants to avoid, above the pain that he knows someone else is going through, which is exactly what he had been doing to Ladybug the last five years and had just learned the consequences of last night. The fact that he needed Tikki to verbally beat this into him killed all the power this would have had as a redemption moment, and since neither Tikki or Adrien told Marinette that part after she woke up, it taints every theoretically romantic moment Marinette and Adrien have had since, or will ever have for the rest of the story.
10th Dec '17 11:57:23 AM SenorCornholio
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: At long last... the crowned turd atop Creator/DakariKingMykan's steaming pile. Gentlemen, I introduce you to ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsFailure'', a series that tries (and fails) to teach that friendship can't always solve everything. Nothing special, right? Then comes the tenth story, which is essentially ''Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds'' but with the MLP cast thrown right in for no good reason other than torment. Sounds like he's treading old ground, right? Nothing to get up in arms over? Well... the red flag this time is that one of the tags is listed as "gore". Then another red flag shows up when you realize that [[TheChewToy Cadance]] is going to be a main character. The moment in question? Count Logan [[spoiler:[[OffWithHerHead decapitates]] [[WouldHurtAChild Flurry Heart]].]] I wish I could say I was joking. But he did. He finally did something even more despicable than sending planets to their deaths just because others had nice lives; He actively [[spoiler:beheaded a child for all to see]]. And the reason this was included? Because Mykan wasn't "satisfied" with just having [[spoiler:Flurry Heart die with the others in the destruction of Equestria]] (though believe me, that'd only be a slight improvement); he admitted several times over that he wanted to specifically torture Cadance and get a rise out of his haters. This, to me, is not just Count Logan's MoralEventHorizon; this is Creator/DakariKingMykan's. And I'm not the only one who feels this way; it was so bad that even people that tried to defend him and be nice to him ended up leaving him. A user on [=FiMFiction=] that defended Mykan (which, by the way, Mykan [[WhatAnIdiot told him about the event]]) soon took the defending blog down after the story was put up. And all Mykan said to them was, in short, "[[NoSympathy suck it up]]". People often say that Mykan is essentially a Canadian Chris-Chan. I disagree; at least Chris-Chan would draw the line at [[spoiler:baby murder]]. At this point, there is no camel anymore; it's not just without a spine, or fed to Cerberus. It's been [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Hakai'd]] out of existence. There's getting back at haters, and then there's crossing a fine line between internet notoriety and absolute malice.

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* [=SenorCornholio=]: At long last... the crowned turd atop Creator/DakariKingMykan's steaming pile. Gentlemen, I introduce you to ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsFailure'', a series that tries (and fails) to teach that friendship can't always solve everything. Nothing special, right? Then comes the tenth story, which is essentially ''Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds'' but with the MLP cast thrown right in for no good reason other than torment. Sounds like he's treading old ground, right? Nothing to get up in arms over? Well... the red flag this time is that one of the tags is listed as "gore". Then another red flag shows up when you realize that [[TheChewToy Cadance]] is going to be a main character. The moment in question? Count Logan [[spoiler:[[OffWithHerHead decapitates]] [[WouldHurtAChild Flurry Heart]].]] I wish I could say I was joking. But he did. He finally did something even more despicable than sending planets to their deaths just because others had nice lives; He actively [[spoiler:beheaded a child for all to see]]. And the reason this was included? Because Mykan wasn't "satisfied" with just having [[spoiler:Flurry Heart die with the others in the destruction of Equestria]] (though believe me, that'd only be a slight improvement); he admitted several times over that he wanted to specifically torture Cadance and get a rise out of his haters. This, to me, is not just Count Logan's MoralEventHorizon; this is Creator/DakariKingMykan's. And I'm not the only one who feels this way; it was so bad that even people that tried to defend him and be nice to him ended up leaving him. A user on [=FiMFiction=] that defended Mykan (which, by the way, Mykan [[WhatAnIdiot told him about the event]]) soon took the defending blog down after the story was put up. And all Mykan said to them was, in short, "[[NoSympathy suck it up]]". People often say that Mykan is essentially a Canadian Chris-Chan. I disagree; at least Chris-Chan would draw the line at [[spoiler:baby murder]]. At this point, there is no camel anymore; it's not just without a spine, or fed to Cerberus. It's been [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Hakai'd]] [[DeaderThanDead out of existence.existence]]. There's getting back at haters, and then there's crossing a fine line between internet notoriety and absolute malice.
1st Dec '17 6:29:11 PM SenorCornholio
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: At long last... the crowned turd atop Creator/DakariKingMykan's steaming pile. Gentlemen, I introduce you to ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsFailure'', a series that tries (and fails) to teach that friendship can't always solve everything. Nothing special, right? Then comes the tenth story, which is essentially ''Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds'' but with the MLP cast thrown right in for no good reason other than torment. Sounds like he's treading old ground, right? Nothing to get up in arms over? Well... the red flag this time is that one of the tags is listed as "gore". Then another red flag shows up when you realize that [[TheChewToy Cadance]] is going to be a main character. The moment in question? Count Logan [[spoiler:[[OffWithHerHead decapitates]] [[WouldHurtAChild Flurry Heart]].]] I wish I could say I was joking. But he did. He finally did something even more despicable than sending planets to their deaths just because others had nice lives; He actively [[spoiler:beheaded a child for all to see]]. And the reason this was included? Because Mykan wasn't "satisfied" with just having [[spoiler:Flurry Heart die with the others in the destruction of Equestria]] (though believe me, that'd only be a slight improvement); he admitted several times over that he wanted to specifically torture Cadance and get a rise out of his haters. This, to me, is not just Count Logan's MoralEventHorizon; this is Creator/DakariKingMykan's. And I'm not the only one who feels this way; it was so bad that even people that tried to defend him and be nice to him ended up leaving him. A user on [=FiMFiction=] that defended Mykan (which, by the way, Mykan [[WhatAnIdiot told him bout the event]]) soon took the defending blog down after the story was put up. And all Mykan said to them was, in short, "[[NoSympathy suck it up]]". People often say that Mykan is essentially a Canadian Chris-Chan. I disagree; at least Chris-Chan would draw the line at [[spoiler:baby murder]]. At this point, there is no camel anymore; it's not just without a spine, or fed to Cerberus. It's been [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Hakai'd]] out of existence. There's getting back at haters, and then there's crossing a fine line between internet notoriety and absolute malice.

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* [=SenorCornholio=]: At long last... the crowned turd atop Creator/DakariKingMykan's steaming pile. Gentlemen, I introduce you to ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsFailure'', a series that tries (and fails) to teach that friendship can't always solve everything. Nothing special, right? Then comes the tenth story, which is essentially ''Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds'' but with the MLP cast thrown right in for no good reason other than torment. Sounds like he's treading old ground, right? Nothing to get up in arms over? Well... the red flag this time is that one of the tags is listed as "gore". Then another red flag shows up when you realize that [[TheChewToy Cadance]] is going to be a main character. The moment in question? Count Logan [[spoiler:[[OffWithHerHead decapitates]] [[WouldHurtAChild Flurry Heart]].]] I wish I could say I was joking. But he did. He finally did something even more despicable than sending planets to their deaths just because others had nice lives; He actively [[spoiler:beheaded a child for all to see]]. And the reason this was included? Because Mykan wasn't "satisfied" with just having [[spoiler:Flurry Heart die with the others in the destruction of Equestria]] (though believe me, that'd only be a slight improvement); he admitted several times over that he wanted to specifically torture Cadance and get a rise out of his haters. This, to me, is not just Count Logan's MoralEventHorizon; this is Creator/DakariKingMykan's. And I'm not the only one who feels this way; it was so bad that even people that tried to defend him and be nice to him ended up leaving him. A user on [=FiMFiction=] that defended Mykan (which, by the way, Mykan [[WhatAnIdiot told him bout about the event]]) soon took the defending blog down after the story was put up. And all Mykan said to them was, in short, "[[NoSympathy suck it up]]". People often say that Mykan is essentially a Canadian Chris-Chan. I disagree; at least Chris-Chan would draw the line at [[spoiler:baby murder]]. At this point, there is no camel anymore; it's not just without a spine, or fed to Cerberus. It's been [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Hakai'd]] out of existence. There's getting back at haters, and then there's crossing a fine line between internet notoriety and absolute malice.
1st Dec '17 6:03:00 PM SenorCornholio
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: At long last... the crowned turd atop Creator/DakariKingMykan's steaming pile. Gentlemen, I introduce you to ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsFailure'', a series that tries (and fails) to teach that friendship can't always solve everything. Nothing special, right? Then comes the tenth story, which is essentially ''Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds'' but with the MLP cast thrown right in for no good reason other than torment. Sounds like he's treading old ground, right? Nothing to get up in arms over? Well... the red flag this time is that one of the tags is listed as "gore". Then another red flag shows up when you realize that [[TheChewToy Cadance]] is going to be a main character. The moment in question? Count Logan [[spoiler:[[OffWithHerHead decapitates]] [[WouldHurtAChild Flurry Heart]].]] I wish I could say I was joking. But he did. He finally did something even more despicable than sending planets to their deaths just because others had nice lives; He actively [[spoiler:beheaded a child for all to see]]. And the reason this was included? Because Mykan wasn't "satisfied" with just having [[spoiler:Flurry Heart die with the others in the destruction of Equestria]] (though believe me, that's only a slight improvement); he admitted several times over that he wanted to specifically torture Cadance and get a rise out of his haters. This, to me, is not just Count Logan's MoralEventHorizon; this is Creator/DakariKingMykan's. And I'm not the only one who feels this way; it was so bad that even people that tried to defend him and be nice to him ended up leaving him. A user on [=FiMFiction=] that defended Mykan (which, by the way, Mykan [[WhatAnIdiot told him bout the event]]) soon took the defending blog down after the story was put up. And all Mykan said to them was, in short, "[[NoSympathy suck it up]]". People often say that Mykan is essentially a Canadian Chris-Chan. I disagree; at least Chris-Chan would draw the line at [[spoiler:baby murder]]. At this point, there is no camel anymore; it's not just without a spine, or fed to Cerberus. It's been [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Hakai'd]] out of existence. There's getting back at haters, and then there's crossing a fine line between internet notoriety and absolute malice.

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* [=SenorCornholio=]: At long last... the crowned turd atop Creator/DakariKingMykan's steaming pile. Gentlemen, I introduce you to ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsFailure'', a series that tries (and fails) to teach that friendship can't always solve everything. Nothing special, right? Then comes the tenth story, which is essentially ''Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds'' but with the MLP cast thrown right in for no good reason other than torment. Sounds like he's treading old ground, right? Nothing to get up in arms over? Well... the red flag this time is that one of the tags is listed as "gore". Then another red flag shows up when you realize that [[TheChewToy Cadance]] is going to be a main character. The moment in question? Count Logan [[spoiler:[[OffWithHerHead decapitates]] [[WouldHurtAChild Flurry Heart]].]] I wish I could say I was joking. But he did. He finally did something even more despicable than sending planets to their deaths just because others had nice lives; He actively [[spoiler:beheaded a child for all to see]]. And the reason this was included? Because Mykan wasn't "satisfied" with just having [[spoiler:Flurry Heart die with the others in the destruction of Equestria]] (though believe me, that's that'd only be a slight improvement); he admitted several times over that he wanted to specifically torture Cadance and get a rise out of his haters. This, to me, is not just Count Logan's MoralEventHorizon; this is Creator/DakariKingMykan's. And I'm not the only one who feels this way; it was so bad that even people that tried to defend him and be nice to him ended up leaving him. A user on [=FiMFiction=] that defended Mykan (which, by the way, Mykan [[WhatAnIdiot told him bout the event]]) soon took the defending blog down after the story was put up. And all Mykan said to them was, in short, "[[NoSympathy suck it up]]". People often say that Mykan is essentially a Canadian Chris-Chan. I disagree; at least Chris-Chan would draw the line at [[spoiler:baby murder]]. At this point, there is no camel anymore; it's not just without a spine, or fed to Cerberus. It's been [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Hakai'd]] out of existence. There's getting back at haters, and then there's crossing a fine line between internet notoriety and absolute malice.
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