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21st May '16 5:43:58 AM cricri3007
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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8817260/19/Digital-Doctor Digital Doctor]]'', a ''Series/DoctorWho''[=/=]''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' crossover, is awesome, had me completely hooked and I loved it. That is, until the ending. Spoilers herafter. So, XANA (in this story, a TARDIS mutated into the SuperComputer) is destoryed, but a figment of her managed to possess Aelita and almost kills her but, Aelita being a half TimeLord, regenerates (something that, being part human, shouldn't be possible) into an adult woman and, in order to give her a "normal" life, the Doctor [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase her memory of everything related to XANA]], including all her adventures wit the other kids. Talk about a downer.

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8817260/19/Digital-Doctor Digital Doctor]]'', a ''Series/DoctorWho''[=/=]''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' crossover, is awesome, had me completely hooked and I loved it. That is, until the ending. Spoilers herafter. So, XANA (in this story, a TARDIS mutated into the SuperComputer) is destoryed, but a figment of her managed to possess Aelita and almost kills her but, Aelita being a half TimeLord, regenerates (something that, being part human, shouldn't be possible) into an adult woman and, in order to give her a "normal" life, the Doctor [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase her memory of everything related to XANA]], including all her adventures wit with the other kids. Talk about a downer.
19th May '16 5:31:11 AM cricri3007
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** PS; one of the things mentioned is that F. Miller's "Unauthorized Biography" of Catwoman has Batman wielding a gun and killing people. Which Batman, originally, did do. Normally, it'd be an amusing MythologyGag, but here it comes off as blaming Miller for something that wasn't his fault. [[note]]Batman does use a gun briefly in TDKR...to save the life of someone being held hostage. It's not clear whether he actually kills the hostage-taker. The only other time he uses a gun in that story is in order to fire a tightrope line. Eventually, he says the Sons of Batman will not use guns, period.[[/note]]

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** PS; one of the things mentioned is that F. Miller's "Unauthorized Biography" of Catwoman has Batman wielding a gun and killing people. Which Batman, originally, did do. Normally, it'd be an amusing MythologyGag, but here it comes off as blaming Miller for something that wasn't his fault. [[note]]Batman does use a gun briefly in TDKR...to save the life of someone being held hostage. It's not clear whether he actually kills the hostage-taker. The only other time he uses a gun in that story is in order to fire a tightrope line. Eventually, he says the Sons of Batman will not use guns, period.[[/note]][[/note]]
* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8817260/19/Digital-Doctor Digital Doctor]]'', a ''Series/DoctorWho''[=/=]''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' crossover, is awesome, had me completely hooked and I loved it. That is, until the ending. Spoilers herafter. So, XANA (in this story, a TARDIS mutated into the SuperComputer) is destoryed, but a figment of her managed to possess Aelita and almost kills her but, Aelita being a half TimeLord, regenerates (something that, being part human, shouldn't be possible) into an adult woman and, in order to give her a "normal" life, the Doctor [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase her memory of everything related to XANA]], including all her adventures wit the other kids. Talk about a downer.
25th Apr '16 7:31:45 AM SystemCellar
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* Tropers/Candycane14: What did [[Franchise/TheSmurfs Handy ever do to deserve the SlashFic "I Love you Handy"?! Even as a slash fan I hate this fic... I like Handy because he's a smart inventor and, although he isn't physically strong like Hefty, he has courage. All of which thrown out the window as he suffers the worst form of {{Wimpification}} in the fic. There are a lot of UnfortunateImplications -- if you're best friends with someone, it means you wanna have constant sodomy with them, Rape Equals Love, girl's first choices are hot muscled guys, and more I'll get to below. Furthermore, Papa Smurf reveals at one point that Handy and Hefty are brothers -- [[IncestYayShipping guess who the slashed couple are]]. The worst part? After Handy gets lost in the forest (as a result of being handled the IdiotBall) and is caught by Gargamel, Hefty and the other smurfs manage to save him, but Hefty gets gravely injured and dies. What does Handy do? He blames Greedy for not coming to help sooner and attacks him. Uh, no, prick! It's your own fault for not listening to Papa's advice to stay out of the woods, getting lost into the forest without preparing anything for support, and getting captured! And the whiny, spoiled little shit gets away with it! Over the next few chapters Handy doesn't do anything but cry. And then the fic pulls an AssPull of epic proportions: Hefty is brought back to life ''because of'' all Handy's crying... This in a fic which was co-written by two authors who get lots of praise for it! This fic made me quit the Smurfs fandom.

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* Tropers/Candycane14: What did [[Franchise/TheSmurfs Handy Handy]] ever do to deserve the SlashFic "I Love you Handy"?! Even as a slash fan I hate this fic... I like Long story short, Handy because he's a smart inventor and, although he isn't physically strong like Hefty, he has courage. All of which thrown out the window as he suffers the worst form of {{Wimpification}} in the fic. There fic as he gets into a relationship with Hefty (who, by the way, [[IncestYayShipping are revealed to be brothers by Papa Smurf]]). Furthermore, there are a lot of UnfortunateImplications -- if you're best friends with someone, it means you wanna have constant sodomy with them, Rape Equals Love, girl's first choices are hot muscled guys, and more I'll get to below. Furthermore, Papa Smurf reveals at one point that Handy and Hefty are brothers -- [[IncestYayShipping guess who Now, toward the slashed couple are]]. The worst part? After Handy gets lost in end of the forest (as a result of being handled the IdiotBall) and is caught by Gargamel, Hefty and the other smurfs manage to save him, but fic, Hefty gets gravely injured when trying to save Handy from Gargamel and dies. What does Handy do? He blames Greedy for not coming to help sooner and attacks him. Uh, no, prick! It's your own fault for [[IdiotBall not listening to Papa's advice to stay out of the woods, getting lost into the forest without preparing anything for support, and getting captured! And the whiny, spoiled little shit gets away with it! captured]]! Over the next few chapters Handy doesn't do anything but cry. And then the fic pulls an AssPull of epic proportions: Hefty is brought back to life ''because of'' all Handy's crying... This crying. ... And what's worse, this in a fic which was co-written by two authors who get lots of praise for it! This fic made me quit the Smurfs fandom.it.



I'll make it as simple as I can: Buttercup bets her soul during a poker game with Him and looses. Bubbles begs Him to take her instead, leading to a deal that if Bubbles stays with Him as a pet for a week, the bet is off and Buttercup's free. Okay? Okay. So a little later, Bubbles goes with Him to Hell and gets a rundown of the rules of this agreement, etc, and then is left to have a rest for the night before starting her "duties" the next day.\\
So, what awaits her the next day? Him insists she stays stark naked, wears a collar and leash like a dog, eats/ sleeps on the floor just like an animal, and only refers to Him as "Master". Yeah...but it gets worse. Later on Him forces Bubbles to get in the tub for a bath with him, and she of course hesitates. This pisses off Him, who forces Bubbles to give him a hand job as a punishment. Bubbles is of course upset but Him angrily insists that he is not asking her to give him her virginity, so she should essentially shut up and do what he says. Uh- okay, if you force someone to give you sexual pleasure against their will, [[PunctuatedForEmphasis that. Is. Rape.]] Intercourse or not. Wanna see it get worse? Later we get the same situation with the bath again, but Bubbles goes through with it out of fear. Him insists on washing her and violating her personal space until she's (justifiably) certain this will lead to rape. Him once again insists he will not rape her. RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, after all. [[SarcasmMode But--it's a-okay if he simply manhandles her a little for kicks as long as it's not the direct act of sex.]] Oh, and it doesn't end there. [[StockholmSyndrome Later Bubbles has started to fall for Him,]] and her time is almost up and she can go back home in a few days. Now, does Him reveal that the whole "Take Me Instead and use me like a Pet" is a big supernatural contract that was out of Him's control to change the rules of, and they both had to get through it on those terms whether either of them agreed to them or not? Nope. Him reveals that this was all just a clever little scheme he put together to trick innocent little Bubbles into falling for/ trusting him. So is Bubbles pissed out of her mind since all the humiliation and molestation she went through was just a trick and proceeds to kick his demonic ass? Oh no, she's just a little insulted. Look, Bubbles might be the most kindhearted and understanding of the Girls, but she is certainly is not this kind of a pushover! I won't use up the rest of this page typing out the ending or the stuff that comes after this. The thing that gets me is that these plot elements make the moral come off as: "If someone forces you to be a glorified SexSlave that = True Love!!" and "Rape is only if someone forces intercourse on you, not any other type of touching or sexual contact against your will." The fic is supposed to be darkly romantic, but this comes across as deeply disturbing.

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I'll make it as simple as I can: Buttercup bets her soul during a poker game with Him and looses.loses. Bubbles begs Him to take her instead, leading to a deal that if Bubbles stays with Him as a pet for a week, the bet is off and Buttercup's free. Okay? Okay. So a little later, Bubbles goes with Him to Hell and gets a rundown of the rules of this agreement, etc, and then is left to have a rest for the night before starting her "duties" the next day.\\
So, what awaits her the next day? Him insists she stays stark naked, wears a collar and leash like a dog, eats/ sleeps on the floor just like an animal, and only refers to Him as "Master". Yeah...but it gets worse.
Later on on, Him forces Bubbles to get in the tub for a bath with him, and she of course hesitates. This pisses off Him, who forces Bubbles to give him a hand job as a punishment. Bubbles is of course upset but Him angrily insists that he is not asking her to give him her virginity, so she should essentially shut up and do what he says. Uh- okay, if you force someone to give you sexual pleasure against their will, [[PunctuatedForEmphasis that. Is. Rape.]] Intercourse or not. Wanna see it get worse? Later we get the same situation with the bath again, but Bubbles goes through with it out of fear. Him insists on washing her and violating her personal space until she's (justifiably) certain this will lead to rape. Him once again insists he will not rape her. RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, after all. [[SarcasmMode But--it's a-okay if he simply manhandles her a little for kicks as long as it's not the direct act of sex.]] Oh, and it doesn't end there. [[StockholmSyndrome Later Bubbles has started to fall for Him,]] and her time is almost up and she can go back home in a few days. Now, does Him reveal that the whole "Take Me Instead and use me like a Pet" is a big supernatural contract that was out of Him's control to change the rules of, and they both had to get through it on those terms whether either of them agreed to them or not? Nope. Him reveals that this was all just a clever little scheme he put together to trick innocent little Bubbles into falling for/ trusting for[=/=]trusting him. So is Bubbles pissed out of her mind since all the humiliation and molestation she went through was just a trick and proceeds to kick his demonic ass? Oh no, she's just a little insulted. Look, Bubbles might be the most kindhearted and understanding of the Girls, but she is certainly is not this kind of a pushover! I won't use up the rest of this page typing out the ending or the stuff that comes after this. The thing that gets me is that these plot elements make the moral come off as: "If someone forces you to be a glorified SexSlave that = True Love!!" and "Rape is only if someone forces intercourse on you, not any other type of touching or sexual contact against your will." The fic is supposed to be darkly romantic, but this comes across as deeply disturbing.
18th Apr '16 2:38:01 PM kenyastarflight
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* Tropers/KenyaStarflight: I came across a [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers Transformers]] fanfic a long time ago (so long ago that I can't tell you the title or even if it still exists online) that, for the first two chapters, was little more than "just another {{Lemon}} where Megatron sleeps with a MarySue love interest," which are so commonplace they're barely worth worrying about anymore. What made this one cross over into "completely irredeemable" territory was the fact that the author saw fit to pull a Creator/{{Bleedman}} and use 9/11 as a friggin' plot point. Seriously, the MarySue love interest was somehow involved in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, was injured in the chaos, and while unconscious had a vision of her unborn child which gave her the will to keep going. ArtisticLicenseBiology aside, using the 9/11 attacks as a plot device to give Megatron and your MarySue a baby is tasteless, disrespectful, and completely unnecessary.
20th Mar '16 10:23:29 AM SystemCellar
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* Tropers/Candycane14: What did Handy(from the Smurfs) ever do to deserve this??! SlashFic(Crappy Hefty/Handy fic)"I Love you Handy"(It should be "I loathe you Handy")written by 'Kiss the Smurf','Kiss the Iconist' on Deviantart(I don't wanna kiss her! I wanna kick her!)with her partner in crime, Shini Smurf. Even as a slash fan I hate this fic...it is the worst fan fic in general, I ever read. It is the 'Ren Seeks Help' of all fanfiction. The stories are different but still give you the same mentality.[[note]] As Mr.Enter said, It can change who you are. Beyond just giving you nightmares, or making you think that the writer's a sadistic fuck. It has the ability to kill hope. It has the ability to kill sanity. It has the ability to kill innocence.[[/note]] One of the reasons why I liked Handy, was because although he wasn't physically strong like Hefty, he was strong on the inside and had courage. Not to mention, he was smart and Hello? An inventor! All of which thrown out the window, and suffered the worst case of {{Wimpification}}. [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WesternAnimation/SouthPark Kyle Broflovski]] would fell very sorry for him. This fic also give lots of UnfortunateImplications that if you're best friends with someone, it means you wanna have constant sodomy with them, Rape equals Love, girl's first choices are hot muslced guys, people with bipolar disorders and more I'll get to below. Later in the story Handy had a prophecy nightmare, where Hefty got killed while they were both on the stork, and Hefty fell off. This is important later. Later, Papa Smurf tells the couple, they're blood brothers.....what..the fuck. So all this time the two authors were writing about two brothers having constant sodomy, and were happy, they written it...later, Hefty had to help with Papa at the forest and told Handy to stay put. Handy didn't listen and got lost in the forest. He went into the forest, because he was worried about the prophecy dream. [[WhatAnIdiot Uh, Handy in order for the prophecy dream coming true and Hefty getting killed, 'You' have to be in it. Getting yourself involved, just encourages the prophecy! And he just goes out on his own without atleast a weapon or, let's see, what does he make again?? Oh, yeah! Inventions!]] [[OutOfCharacter God, this is really fucking stupid, even for Handy's character!]] Then he got caught by Gargamel. Hefty and the other smurfs manage to save Handy and they excaped, but Gargamel got Hefty gravely injured in the process. Then Handy being a little prick in this fic, blamed one of his good close friends, Greedy for not coming to help sooner and attacked him. He blamed greedy for Hefty's condition. Uh, no! No, prick! It's your own fault for not listening, not thinking this through, getting lost into the forest with nothing for support, getting captured, with all led to Hefty's condition! And nobody bothered to point this out to the whiny, spoiled little shit! Earlier, Handy tried to killed himself so 'he can join Hefty', if he meant heaven, neither will go due to all their sodomy! Over the next few chapters Handy doesn't do anything else but cried and cried and cried. It almost made me stop reading this fic! When Hefty died, Handy was a dick to everyone and cried and cried and cried and cried, then..they pulled a [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants "Stuck In The Wringer".]] Hefty was brought back to life. Handy himself pointed he did nothing but cried. Hefty told him all of his contant crying was what brought him back to life.(eye twitches). Ok I'm done! Handy is not some useless chick with a dick who giggles/sobs/fucks all the time! This fic would've worked better with Scardy or maybe Weepy in Handy's place! I read South Park and Regular show slash fics([[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/RegularShowAugust August for example]]) which featured porn, but had better characterization and storytelling with more controlled hormones. I read one [[BelligerentSexualTension Handy/Brainy]] lemon fic, where Handy was 10000000000000000 times more in character [[EpicFail then in this fic with over 40 chapters!]] And...it just broke me...it made me quit the smurfs fandom...these two writers just care more about writing senseless smut then proper story telling and get lots of praises for it...I'm-I'm out. The pairing and this fic, can all just burn in hell!

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* Tropers/Candycane14: What did Handy(from the Smurfs) [[Franchise/TheSmurfs Handy ever do to deserve this??! SlashFic(Crappy Hefty/Handy fic)"I the SlashFic "I Love you Handy"(It should be "I loathe you Handy")written by 'Kiss the Smurf','Kiss the Iconist' on Deviantart(I don't wanna kiss her! I wanna kick her!)with her partner in crime, Shini Smurf. Handy"?! Even as a slash fan I hate this fic...it is the worst fan fic in general, fic... I ever read. It is the 'Ren Seeks Help' of all fanfiction. The stories are different but still give you the same mentality.[[note]] As Mr.Enter said, It can change who you are. Beyond just giving you nightmares, or making you think that the writer's a sadistic fuck. It has the ability to kill hope. It has the ability to kill sanity. It has the ability to kill innocence.[[/note]] One of the reasons why I liked Handy, was like Handy because he's a smart inventor and, although he wasn't isn't physically strong like Hefty, he was strong on the inside and had has courage. Not to mention, he was smart and Hello? An inventor! All of which thrown out the window, and suffered window as he suffers the worst case form of {{Wimpification}}. [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WesternAnimation/SouthPark Kyle Broflovski]] would fell very sorry for him. This fic also give lots {{Wimpification}} in the fic. There are a lot of UnfortunateImplications that -- if you're best friends with someone, it means you wanna have constant sodomy with them, Rape equals Equals Love, girl's first choices are hot muslced muscled guys, people with bipolar disorders and more I'll get to below. Later in the story Handy had a prophecy nightmare, where Hefty got killed while they were both on the stork, and Hefty fell off. This is important later. Later, Furthermore, Papa Smurf tells the couple, they're blood brothers.....what..the fuck. So all this time the two authors were writing about two reveals at one point that Handy and Hefty are brothers having constant sodomy, and were happy, they written it...later, Hefty had to help with Papa at -- [[IncestYayShipping guess who the forest and told slashed couple are]]. The worst part? After Handy to stay put. Handy didn't listen and got gets lost in the forest. He went into forest (as a result of being handled the forest, because he was worried about the prophecy dream. [[WhatAnIdiot Uh, Handy in order for the prophecy dream coming true IdiotBall) and Hefty getting killed, 'You' have to be in it. Getting yourself involved, just encourages the prophecy! And he just goes out on his own without atleast a weapon or, let's see, what does he make again?? Oh, yeah! Inventions!]] [[OutOfCharacter God, this is really fucking stupid, even for Handy's character!]] Then he got caught by Gargamel. Gargamel, Hefty and the other smurfs manage to save Handy and they excaped, him, but Gargamel got Hefty gets gravely injured in the process. Then and dies. What does Handy being a little prick in this fic, blamed one of his good close friends, do? He blames Greedy for not coming to help sooner and attacked attacks him. He blamed greedy for Hefty's condition. Uh, no! No, no, prick! It's your own fault for not listening, not thinking this through, listening to Papa's advice to stay out of the woods, getting lost into the forest with nothing without preparing anything for support, and getting captured, with all led to Hefty's condition! captured! And nobody bothered to point this out to the whiny, spoiled little shit! Earlier, Handy tried to killed himself so 'he can join Hefty', if he meant heaven, neither will go due to all their sodomy! shit gets away with it! Over the next few chapters Handy doesn't do anything else but cried and cried and cried. It almost made me stop reading this fic! When cry. And then the fic pulls an AssPull of epic proportions: Hefty died, Handy was a dick to everyone and cried and cried and cried and cried, then..they pulled a [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants "Stuck In The Wringer".]] Hefty was is brought back to life. Handy himself pointed he did nothing but cried. Hefty told him life ''because of'' all of his contant crying was what brought him back to life.(eye twitches). Ok I'm done! Handy is not some useless chick with a dick who giggles/sobs/fucks all the time! This fic would've worked better with Scardy or maybe Weepy in Handy's place! I read South Park and Regular show slash fics([[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/RegularShowAugust August for example]]) crying... This in a fic which featured porn, but had better characterization and storytelling with more controlled hormones. I read one [[BelligerentSexualTension Handy/Brainy]] lemon fic, where Handy was 10000000000000000 times more in character [[EpicFail then in this co-written by two authors who get lots of praise for it! This fic with over 40 chapters!]] And...it just broke me...it made me quit the smurfs fandom...these two writers just care more about writing senseless smut then proper story telling and get lots of praises for it...I'm-I'm out. The pairing and this fic, can all just burn in hell! Smurfs fandom.
19th Mar '16 6:57:16 PM Rebu
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* SenorCornholio: Since [[Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn My Little Unicorn]] already has its own page, let's talk about DakariKingMykan's other crowning achievement, [[Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds The End of Ends.]] It's exactly as much of a wangst-ridden [[AuthorTract Author Tract]] as you would expect, and there are plenty of moments to choose from. I could have put [[BigBad Count Logan's]] ([[TheUnreveal actually Beast Boy's]]) reasons for blowing up Tamaran being that he was upset that Starfire and Robin got together while he didn't get back with Terra, but I think there's a moment that's far worse. A fair warning: this one's slightly going into meta territory. At the end, [[spoiler: Logan performs a [[HeelFaceTurn heel-face turn]] and helps defeat [[TheStarscream Dr. Beljar]]...[[DroppedABridgeOnHim and then Logan dies.]]]] After that fact, some fans (yes, this fic actually has fans) were sad and upset that [[spoiler: Logan died]], to which Mykan responded with his reasoning: [[spoiler: because Terra had left him in "Things Change", he is doomed to die even if he is redeemed and Terra gets back with him!]] Okay Mykan, what the fuck! I could handle [[spoiler: a character dying]], but that kind of reasoning is just...just...NO!

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* SenorCornholio: Since [[Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn My Little Unicorn]] already has its own page, let's talk about DakariKingMykan's other crowning achievement, [[Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds The End of Ends.]] It's exactly as much of a wangst-ridden [[AuthorTract Author Tract]] as you would expect, and there are plenty of moments to choose from. I could have put [[BigBad Count Logan's]] ([[TheUnreveal actually Beast Boy's]]) reasons for blowing up Tamaran being that he was upset that Starfire and Robin got together while he didn't get back with Terra, but I think there's a moment that's far worse. A fair warning: this one's slightly going into meta territory. At the end, [[spoiler: Logan performs a [[HeelFaceTurn heel-face turn]] and helps defeat [[TheStarscream Dr. Beljar]]...[[DroppedABridgeOnHim and then Logan dies.]]]] After that fact, some fans (yes, this fic actually has fans) were sad and upset that [[spoiler: Logan died]], to which Mykan responded with his reasoning: [[spoiler: because Terra had left him in "Things Change", he is doomed to die even if he is redeemed and Terra gets back with him!]] Okay Mykan, what the fuck! I could handle [[spoiler: a character dying]], but that kind of reasoning is just...just...NO!NO!
* ''Fanfic/CatTales'': "Pussywhipped". It was mildly amusing when Chris Dee took a shot at Frank Miller earlier in the fic. Okay, you don't like the idea of Catwoman as a prostitute, neither does DC. Less so when she devotes an entire story just to humiliating and destroying the reputation of both the in-universe version of Miller - cleverly disguised by calling him "F. Miller"-and a few other writers, as well as people who like said writers. It comes off as rather petty and self indulgent (especially when one of the complaints is basically the writer going "I don't like that ship, even if it is canonical"), and culminates in Batman personally delivering an AuthorTract to Miller, after the aforementioned public humiliation, and telling him to get out of town. Not a single person, in the Rogues, the Bat-Family, or the wider superhero community, so much as says "this might be going a bit far", and we learn about Miller almost entirely from Selina's perspective, including a monologue about how the portrayals of Cleopatra as a promiscuous woman were the result of historians afraid of her sexuality, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything wink, wink]]. -Rebu
** PS; one of the things mentioned is that F. Miller's "Unauthorized Biography" of Catwoman has Batman wielding a gun and killing people. Which Batman, originally, did do. Normally, it'd be an amusing MythologyGag, but here it comes off as blaming Miller for something that wasn't his fault. [[note]]Batman does use a gun briefly in TDKR...to save the life of someone being held hostage. It's not clear whether he actually kills the hostage-taker. The only other time he uses a gun in that story is in order to fire a tightrope line. Eventually, he says the Sons of Batman will not use guns, period.[[/note]]
1st Jan '16 1:34:33 AM SenorCornholio
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So, what awaits her the next day? Him insists she stays stark naked, wears a collar and leash like a dog, eats/ sleeps on the floor just like an animal, and only refers to Him as "Master". Yeah...but it gets worse. Later on Him forces Bubbles to get in the tub for a bath with him, and she of course hesitates. This pisses off Him, who forces Bubbles to give him a hand job as a punishment. Bubbles is of course upset but Him angrily insists that he is not asking her to give him her virginity, so she should essentially shut up and do what he says. Uh- okay, if you force someone to give you sexual pleasure against their will, [[PunctuatedForEmphasis that. Is. Rape.]] Intercourse or not. Wanna see it get worse? Later we get the same situation with the bath again, but Bubbles goes through with it out of fear. Him insists on washing her and violating her personal space until she's (justifiably) certain this will lead to rape. Him once again insists he will not rape her. RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, after all. [[SarcasmMode But--it's a-okay if he simply manhandles her a little for kicks as long as it's not the direct act of sex.]] Oh, and it doesn't end there. [[StockholmSyndrome Later Bubbles has started to fall for Him,]] and her time is almost up and she can go back home in a few days. Now, does Him reveal that the whole "Take Me Instead and use me like a Pet" is a big supernatural contract that was out of Him's control to change the rules of, and they both had to get through it on those terms whether either of them agreed to them or not? Nope. Him reveals that this was all just a clever little scheme he put together to trick innocent little Bubbles into falling for/ trusting him. So is Bubbles pissed out of her mind since all the humiliation and molestation she went through was just a trick and proceeds to kick his demonic ass? Oh no, she's just a little insulted. Look, Bubbles might be the most kindhearted and understanding of the Girls, but she is certainly is not this kind of a pushover! I won't use up the rest of this page typing out the ending or the stuff that comes after this. The thing that gets me is that these plot elements make the moral come off as: "If someone forces you to be a glorified SexSlave that = True Love!!" and "Rape is only if someone forces intercourse on you, not any other type of touching or sexual contact against your will." The fic is supposed to be darkly romantic, but this comes across as deeply disturbing.

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So, what awaits her the next day? Him insists she stays stark naked, wears a collar and leash like a dog, eats/ sleeps on the floor just like an animal, and only refers to Him as "Master". Yeah...but it gets worse. Later on Him forces Bubbles to get in the tub for a bath with him, and she of course hesitates. This pisses off Him, who forces Bubbles to give him a hand job as a punishment. Bubbles is of course upset but Him angrily insists that he is not asking her to give him her virginity, so she should essentially shut up and do what he says. Uh- okay, if you force someone to give you sexual pleasure against their will, [[PunctuatedForEmphasis that. Is. Rape.]] Intercourse or not. Wanna see it get worse? Later we get the same situation with the bath again, but Bubbles goes through with it out of fear. Him insists on washing her and violating her personal space until she's (justifiably) certain this will lead to rape. Him once again insists he will not rape her. RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, after all. [[SarcasmMode But--it's a-okay if he simply manhandles her a little for kicks as long as it's not the direct act of sex.]] Oh, and it doesn't end there. [[StockholmSyndrome Later Bubbles has started to fall for Him,]] and her time is almost up and she can go back home in a few days. Now, does Him reveal that the whole "Take Me Instead and use me like a Pet" is a big supernatural contract that was out of Him's control to change the rules of, and they both had to get through it on those terms whether either of them agreed to them or not? Nope. Him reveals that this was all just a clever little scheme he put together to trick innocent little Bubbles into falling for/ trusting him. So is Bubbles pissed out of her mind since all the humiliation and molestation she went through was just a trick and proceeds to kick his demonic ass? Oh no, she's just a little insulted. Look, Bubbles might be the most kindhearted and understanding of the Girls, but she is certainly is not this kind of a pushover! I won't use up the rest of this page typing out the ending or the stuff that comes after this. The thing that gets me is that these plot elements make the moral come off as: "If someone forces you to be a glorified SexSlave that = True Love!!" and "Rape is only if someone forces intercourse on you, not any other type of touching or sexual contact against your will." The fic is supposed to be darkly romantic, but this comes across as deeply disturbing.disturbing.
* SenorCornholio: Since [[Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn My Little Unicorn]] already has its own page, let's talk about DakariKingMykan's other crowning achievement, [[Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds The End of Ends.]] It's exactly as much of a wangst-ridden [[AuthorTract Author Tract]] as you would expect, and there are plenty of moments to choose from. I could have put [[BigBad Count Logan's]] ([[TheUnreveal actually Beast Boy's]]) reasons for blowing up Tamaran being that he was upset that Starfire and Robin got together while he didn't get back with Terra, but I think there's a moment that's far worse. A fair warning: this one's slightly going into meta territory. At the end, [[spoiler: Logan performs a [[HeelFaceTurn heel-face turn]] and helps defeat [[TheStarscream Dr. Beljar]]...[[DroppedABridgeOnHim and then Logan dies.]]]] After that fact, some fans (yes, this fic actually has fans) were sad and upset that [[spoiler: Logan died]], to which Mykan responded with his reasoning: [[spoiler: because Terra had left him in "Things Change", he is doomed to die even if he is redeemed and Terra gets back with him!]] Okay Mykan, what the fuck! I could handle [[spoiler: a character dying]], but that kind of reasoning is just...just...NO!
27th Dec '15 3:05:51 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* @/REV6Pilot on FanFic/TheSunSoul. In chapter 22, Ash fights [[PsychoForHire Jessie]] in a battle that ends up with her injured and trapped. Mind you, the Rocket trio is extremely dangerous in this fic, and Ash was almost killed by them on several occasions before then. [[DarthWiki.WallBanger And he takes her to be treated anyway!]] He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how bad the idea is, and we see how dearly he pays for being right later on [[spoiler: when she kills Misty]]. When the author [[WhatTheHellPlayer is called out on it]], he says [[{{Jerkass}} he did it like that because bad things happen in the real world for no damn reason]]. Well, congratulations, Fifty, you managed to lose much more than one reader.

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* @/REV6Pilot on FanFic/TheSunSoul. In chapter 22, Ash fights [[PsychoForHire Jessie]] in a battle that ends up with her injured and trapped. Mind you, the Rocket trio is extremely dangerous in this fic, and Ash was almost killed by them on several occasions before then. [[DarthWiki.WallBanger And he takes her to be treated anyway!]] anyway! He even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how bad the idea is, and we see how dearly he pays for being right later on [[spoiler: when she kills Misty]]. When the author [[WhatTheHellPlayer is called out on it]], he says [[{{Jerkass}} he did it like that because bad things happen in the real world for no damn reason]]. Well, congratulations, Fifty, you managed to lose much more than one reader.
27th Dec '15 2:42:50 PM SeptimusHeap
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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: ''FanFic/{{Arsenal}}''. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil SociopathicHero, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protagonist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as extremely immoral and evil, and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even Misato, who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as thinks about her past. This is easily the least harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly because he can. It gets worse, [[SerialEscalation though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly ridiculous). Finally, a man decides to use her as a toilet, all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatment of the Black Bunnies [[DarthWiki.WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]]. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? Absolutely not. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembrance of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them. No one, not even the worst of villains, should experience fates as disturbing as these. The protagonist has practically become a prime example of a DesignatedHero with this action, and has been warped beyond recognition from his canonical counterpart. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever the author [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into ([[DeadFic assuming he's still churning out this filth]]). It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[note]]Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?[[/note]]

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* @/KingClark: While I was reading throughout the [[FanficRecs/NeonGenesisEvangelion NGE Fanfic Recs,]] I came across one title that sounded interesting: ''FanFic/{{Arsenal}}''. It starts off as a PeggySue fic, but quickly turns into a rollercoaster of insanity. Throughout the story, Shinji goes around doing [[RefugeInAudacity ridiculously awesome]], yet [[AntiHero unquestionally corrupt]] things as a NecessarilyEvil SociopathicHero, all in the name of preventing the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact]]. Shinji starts the story off by doing things that are worse than what Gendo did for most of the series, but nothing too evil. There are signs that the story might be shaky in the way that Shinji causes his new underlings to change their ways quickly, but it isn't anything that isn't unforgivable. Unfortunately, the conclusion of the Black Bunnies arc takes Shinji beyond the MoralEventHorizon and completely ruins the viewer's ability to like the protagonist in one fell swoop. The three [[BigBadDuumvirate Black Bunnies]] are all established as extremely immoral and evil, and Shinji decides [[DisproportionateRetribution how he'll deal with them]]: he plans to use nanomachines to destroy their nervous systems entirely, in order to place them each into a FateWorseThanDeath that is borderline AndIMustScream material. No one has any objections against his decision beforehand (not even Misato, who even helps set up what Shinji has planned for them). As for the punishments themselves, they are as follows (spoilertagged for [[NauseaFuel high amounts]] of {{Squick}}): [[spoiler: Kaede, the first Bunny, is subject to 48 hours of ColdBloodedTorture, and is then [[BrainwashedAndCrazy forced to become]] a bodyguard who is coerced into pain if she so much as thinks about her past. This is easily the least harsh of the punishments. Satsuki, the second Bunny, has her brain permanently damaged and reduced to acting as what can best be described as a human dog. [[KickTheDog To add insult to injury]], Shinji decides to give her a collar, make her sleep in a basket and eat out of a bowl, while the only desires that run through her mind are to recieve affection from her "master". He decides then to keep her as a sex slave for no other reason that she would have done the same to him, but mainly because he can. It gets worse, [[SerialEscalation though]]: Aoi, the third Bunny, has her abilities to smell, taste and touch numbed forever, and is left tied up in shackles in a chamber. The population of Tokyo-3 then covers her with graffitti (this isn't even RefugeInAudacity anymore; it's just grotesque and utterly ridiculous). Finally, a man decides to use her as a toilet, all while she can only beg for death.]] Shinji then gloats about what he's done to his father, and tells him what he's done all [[NightmareFetishist while sounding extremely pleased]]. Afterward, Gendo is visibly disgusted with his son's treatment of the Black Bunnies [[DarthWiki.WallBanger in spite of the fact that he approved of the use of these nanomachines in the first place]].place. So, does Shinji have a shred of guilt for what he's done? Absolutely not. The only thing that comes close to that is his remembrance of what Asuka said to him in the canon, but that hardly counts. Remember when I said that Shinji's actions were all in the name of stopping the Third Impact? [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope This has absolutely nothing to do with it]], so the author just turned an interesting character into a sick freak without a good reason. What's even worse is that the author has claimed that he considers these things to be proportionate punishments to them. No one, not even the worst of villains, should experience fates as disturbing as these. The protagonist has practically become a prime example of a DesignatedHero with this action, and has been warped beyond recognition from his canonical counterpart. I'm too disgusted with this story to read through it any further, and I'd rather not see whatever the author [[CharacterDerailment turns]] Asuka into ([[DeadFic assuming he's still churning out this filth]]). It's a shame that TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, too; from the premise and some pieces of the plot, this story is a prime example of WhatCouldHaveBeen a good, interesting read. [[note]]Phew. That sure took a while, didn't it?[[/note]]
7th Dec '15 11:20:14 AM SeptimusHeap
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