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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.
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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.

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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap **You people like Sean Hannity seem to be CompletelyMissingThePoint of that episode its not that religion is bad and Ann Coulter people that follow it are stupid, it’s that you should not constantly bother people about it and try to convert them. The only reason Brian told her that was so she would pull, leave him alone and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.he would not have pushed that if she would have stopped bothering him about it.
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* Jamilee: The Road to the Multiverse episode. Specifically the part where Stewie and Brian traveled to the universe where Christianity never existed. By now I am used to Family Guys constant and relentless gabs at religion, but this one goes beyond just bashing Christianity. In that particular universe Stewie and Brian observed that universe's Meg, looking more like a playboy model than the supposedly unattractive teen we all know. She was dressed provocatively in a micromini skirt and tube top with her 36D breasts hanging out. Since I sincerely doubt that just not having a religion would make people be automatically born more conventionally 'attractive', that would imply that women in that universe routinely alter their bodies to me more attractive to men. If that is not a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, I don't know what is.

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* Jamilee: The Road to the Multiverse episode. Specifically the part where Stewie and Brian traveled to the universe where Christianity never existed. By now I am used to Family Guys constant and relentless gabs at religion, but this one goes beyond just bashing Christianity. In that particular universe Stewie and Brian observed that universe's Meg, looking more like a playboy model than the supposedly unattractive teen we all know. She was dressed provocatively in a micromini skirt and tube top with her 36D breasts hanging out. Since I sincerely doubt that just not having a religion would make people be automatically born more conventionally 'attractive', that would imply that women in that universe routinely alter their bodies to me more attractive to men. If that making women is the supposedly 'perfect' universe walking sex objects is not a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, I don't know what is.
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* Jamilee: The Road to the Multiverse episode. Specifically the part where Stewie and Brian traveled to the universe where Christianity never existed. By now I am used to Family Guys constant and relentless gabs at religion, but this one goes beyond just bashing Christianity. In that particular universe Stewie and Brian observed that universe's Meg, looking more like a playboy model than the supposedly unattractive teen we all know. She was dressed like a slut in a micromini skirt and tube top with her 36D breasts hanging out. Since I sincerely doubt that just not having a religion would make people be automatically born more conventionally 'attractive', that would imply that women in that universe routinely alter their bodies to me more attractive to men. If that is not a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, I don't know what is.

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* Jamilee: The Road to the Multiverse episode. Specifically the part where Stewie and Brian traveled to the universe where Christianity never existed. By now I am used to Family Guys constant and relentless gabs at religion, but this one goes beyond just bashing Christianity. In that particular universe Stewie and Brian observed that universe's Meg, looking more like a playboy model than the supposedly unattractive teen we all know. She was dressed like a slut provocatively in a micromini skirt and tube top with her 36D breasts hanging out. Since I sincerely doubt that just not having a religion would make people be automatically born more conventionally 'attractive', that would imply that women in that universe routinely alter their bodies to me more attractive to men. If that is not a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, I don't know what is.
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---* Jamilee: The Road to the Multiverse episode. Specifically the part where Stewie and Brian traveled to the universe where Christianity never existed. By now I am used to Family Guys constant and relentless gabs at religion, but this one goes beyond just bashing Christianity. In that particular universe Stewie and Brian observed that universe's Meg, looking more like a playboy model than the supposedly unattractive teen we all know. She was dressed like a slut in a micromini skirt and tube top with her 36D breasts hanging out. Since I sincerely doubt that just not having a religion would make people be automatically born more conventionally 'attractive', that would imply that women in that universe routinely alter their bodies to me more attractive to men. If that is not a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, I don't know what is.
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*** (Gravityman) At some point you have to wonder if the whole thing was even meant to be remotely serious. Given that Brian gives such an idiotic argument and that everybody just accepts it without the least bit of questioning. The only logical explanation for an episode being this bad is the makers [[Troll intentionally making it as bad as possible]].

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*** (Gravityman) At some point you have to wonder if the whole thing was even meant to be remotely serious. Given that Brian gives such an idiotic argument and that everybody just accepts it without the least bit of questioning. The only logical explanation for an episode being this bad is the makers [[Troll [[{{Troll}} intentionally making it as bad as possible]].
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*** (Gravityman) At some point you have to wonder if the whole thing was even meant to be remotely serious. Given that Brian gives such an idiotic argument and that everybody just accepts it without the least bit of questioning. The only logical explanation for an episode being this bad is the makers [[Troll intentionally making it as bad as possible]].
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*** Just for the hell of it, let me (Foamy) list why Brian's arguement makes no sense: 1.) So Meg being ugly means God doesn't exist? So, what, are you trying to say that God should've made everyone look exactly the same? Or scramble people's brains so that the have a different concept of beauty? I mean, wouldn't it be a bad idea for God to play Mad Scientist and make peoples' babies look completely different because God thinks that'll make everything easier on everyone? Also, what the hell happened to beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Hell, Meg even got a boyfriend in a later episode so he must think she's at least bearable to look at. 2.) I'd be more willing to believe your speech if you hadn't spent the last twenty minutes of the episode making Christians into walking stereotypes. 3.) I'd also be more willing to believe you if a previous episode hadn't already established that religion makes a person no better ''and'' no worse. 4.) How the fuck would anyone apply this lesson in real life? Are we supposed to treat anybody who believes in God or several Gods with open hostility? What if someone mentioned they were a Christian or something off-handidly at work. If you made a long-winded speech like Brian did in real life I'd imagine you'd get fired...and you can't really act like that towards your friends or family who aren't atheists necause then you'd just end up alond and depressed. If we aren't meant to treat them with hostility then did you just want everyone who watched the episode to become an atheist and change nothing else about their lives? What would that accomplish? Would that somehow automatically make them better people? 5.) The writer's ego completely overshadowed the cast of Star Trek TNG so I'd be so pissed at this point that I wouldn't agree to almost anything you said. 6.) There are much better arguements for atheism out there. 7.) Don't try and cram in your arguements for atheism in the last three minutes of your episode, especially if everything leading up to it doesn't make any sense. 8.) Don't let Brian be the one to give out any aesop you have. Brian is an asshole.

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*** Just for the hell of it, let me (Foamy) list why Brian's arguement makes no sense: 1.) So Meg being ugly means God doesn't exist? So, what, are you trying to say that God should've made everyone look exactly the same? Or scramble people's brains so that the have a different concept of beauty? I mean, wouldn't it be a bad idea for God to play Mad Scientist and make peoples' babies look completely different because God thinks that'll make everything easier on everyone? Also, what the hell happened to beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Hell, Meg even got a boyfriend in a later episode so he must think she's at least bearable to look at. 2.) I'd be more willing to believe your speech if you hadn't spent the last twenty minutes of the episode making Christians into walking stereotypes. 3.) I'd also be more willing to believe you if a previous episode hadn't already established that religion makes a person no better ''and'' no worse. 4.) How the fuck would anyone apply this lesson in real life? Are we supposed to treat anybody who believes in God or several Gods with open hostility? What if someone mentioned they were a Christian or something off-handidly at work. If you made a long-winded speech like Brian did in real life I'd imagine you'd get fired...and you can't really act like that towards your friends or family who aren't atheists necause then you'd just end up alond and depressed. If we aren't meant to treat them with hostility then did you just want everyone who watched the episode to become an atheist and change nothing else about their lives? What would that accomplish? Would that somehow automatically make them better people? 5.) The writer's ego completely overshadowed the cast of Star Trek TNG so I'd be so pissed at this point that I wouldn't agree to almost anything you said. 6.) There are much better arguements for atheism out there. 7.) Don't try and cram in your arguements for atheism in the last three minutes of your episode, especially if everything leading up to it doesn't make any sense. 8.) Don't let Brian be the one to give out any aesop you have. Brian is an asshole. 9.) Even if you're right about something you need to use logic for your arguement to work or else nobody is going to buy it.
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*** Just for the hell of it, let me (Foamy) list why Brian's arguement makes no sense: 1.) So Meg being ugly means God doesn't exist? So, what, are you trying to say that God should've made everyone look exactly the same? Or scramble people's brains so that the have a different concept of beauty? I mean, wouldn't it be a bad idea for God to play Mad Scientist and make peoples' babies look completely different because God thinks that'll make everything easier on everyone? Also, what the hell happened to beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Hell, Meg even got a boyfriend in a later episode so he must think she's at least bearable to look at. 2.) I'd be more willing to believe your speech if you hadn't spent the last twenty minutes of the episode making Christians into walking stereotypes. 3.) I'd also be more willing to believe you if a previous episode hadn't already established that religion makes a person no better ''and'' no worse. 4.) How the fuck would anyone apply this lesson in real life? Are we supposed to treat anybody who believes in God or several Gods with open hostility? What if someone mentioned they were a Christian or something off-handidly at work. If you made a long-winded speech like Brian did in real life I'd imagine you'd get fired...and you can't really act like that towards your friends or family who aren't atheists necause then you'd just end up alond and depressed. If we aren't meant to treat them with hostility then did you just want everyone who watched the episode to become an atheist and change nothing else about their lives? What would that accomplish? Would that somehow automatically make them better people? 5.) The writer's ego completely overshadowed the cast of Star Trek TNG so I'd be so pissed at this point that I wouldn't agree to almost anything you said. 6.) There are much better arguements for atheism out there. 7.) Don't try and cram in your arguements for atheism in the last three minutes of your episode, especially if everything leading up to it doesn't make any sense. 8.) Don't let Brian be the one to give out any aesop you have. Brian is an asshole.
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** ''Crazy Luigi'': I didn't like that joke either, but the DethroningMomentOfSuck in ''that'' episode was the ending. A random old man says that he finally got down the perfect dirty joke, and then he suddenly dies due to a heart attack or something like that. Peter then steals his dirty joke and bargains with the Dirty Joke Club or whatever its name was where Peter and his freinds leave and in exchange, they hand the group the perfect dirty joke. Peter then burns down the club, killing thousands of people in the process... and the perfect joke was "Guess what? Chicken butt!" That was not only a poor joke that KingOfTheHill's Buckley did about ''ten'' or so years earlier, but also yet another completely pointless ending where even ''I'' could come up with a better naughtier joke! Hell, I bet you that even the Dirty Joke Club or whatever wouldn't like it.
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* ''{{Demetrios}}'': For me, the episode "Family Goy" made me stop watching the show. The BrokenAesop at the end was bad enough on its own, but what really made me stop liking the show was [[DudeNotFunny Peter's attempts to kill Lois because of her newly discovered Jewish ancestry]]. Especially the tasteless [[SarcasmMode homage]] to ''Schindler's List''. I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]]. And not the [[MagnificentBastard cool Joker]] from ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''; the [[NightmareFuel creepy]] [[MonsterClown Joker]] as portrayed by [[Film/{{Batman}} Jack Nicholson]] and [[TheDarkKnightSaga Heath Ledger]].

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* ''{{Demetrios}}'': {{Demetrios}}: For me, the episode "Family Goy" made me stop watching the show. The BrokenAesop at the end was bad enough on its own, but what really made me stop liking the show was [[DudeNotFunny Peter's attempts to kill Lois because of her newly discovered Jewish ancestry]]. Especially the tasteless [[SarcasmMode homage]] to ''Schindler's List''. I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]]. And not the [[MagnificentBastard cool Joker]] from ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''; the [[NightmareFuel creepy]] [[MonsterClown Joker]] as portrayed by [[Film/{{Batman}} Jack Nicholson]] and [[TheDarkKnightSaga Heath Ledger]].
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* ''Alternatevil'': Recently (2010), there was an episode where Peter and company embark on a journey to find the source of the world's dirty jokes. It was a decent enough episode, still littered with plotholes, but still moderately enjoyable. That is, until the gang travels to Washington DC, and to the Vietnam War Memorial. There was a poor caricature of a Vietnamese man bragging to the mourners there about 'winning' the Vietnam War. Now I know that these writers are the kind that pride themselves on the amount of hate mail they get, but this sincerely broke my heart. I thought, how dare they? How dare you! Vietnamese people are barely represented in the media as it is, and the few depictions are the sort of exotic smuggler gang of the week or as a Vietnam War retrospective (think generic flashback into combat in a jungle). How dare you propagate blatant racism on national television? Why cannot you look to us as ordinary humans and not some inane gimmick plot device?

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* ''Alternatevil'': Recently (2010), there was an episode where Peter and company embark on a journey to find the source of the world's dirty jokes. It was a decent enough episode, still littered with plotholes, but still moderately enjoyable. That is, until the gang travels to Washington DC, and to the Vietnam War Memorial. There was a poor caricature of a Vietnamese man bragging to the mourners there about 'winning' the Vietnam War. Now I know that these writers are the kind that pride themselves on the amount of hate mail they get, but this sincerely broke my heart. I thought, how dare they? How dare you! Vietnamese people are barely represented in the media as it is, and the few depictions are the sort of exotic smuggler gang of the week or as a Vietnam War retrospective (think generic flashback into combat in a jungle). How dare you propagate blatant racism on national television? Why cannot you look to us as ordinary humans and not some inane gimmick plot device?device? Plus it doesn't even [[FridgeLogic make sense in context]]. The Vietnamese guy is just randomly at the war memorial? Why? Just to brag? And why does he look like he's 30 when he apparently fought in the Vietnam War?
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* Tropers/{{Sceptre}}: Patriot Games. Home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and "Shipoopi" scenes. The first was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.

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* Tropers/{{Sceptre}}: Patriot Games. Home Games-- the home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and "Shipoopi" scenes. The first former scene was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second latter scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do play "Shipoopi" again.
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* ThisIsMadness91: For a while I was struggling to decide whether to keep going with "Family Guy" or drop it. I decided to drop it when I saw the episode ''Extra Large Medium''. Why? Two reasons. First, the end of the episode was incredibly grim and not at all funny. A missing man has an armed bomb strapped to him, and Joe wants Peter to use his (non-existent) psychic abilities to locate him. Peter stalls for time, and even tries to get Joe to let him feel the missing man's daughters breasts. When the bomb goes off, Peter bluntly admits to not really being a medium. They expect us to laugh at Peter's arrogance and idiocy costing an innocent man his life, and nearly getting his daughter molested mere moments before that. Sorry, Seth, but I don't find that funny. The second reason this episode put me off the series was the subplot. While I do think the Sarah Palin joke was in poor taste, that wasn't what irked me. It was the pointlessness of having Chris falling in love with a girl who has Down's Syndrome. It wasn't a touching story, it didn't develop his character, it was purely there to make people say, "Oh my, he's is love with a girl who has Down's Syndrome! That's so unexpected!". And of course, there's that damn annoying "Down's Syndrome Girl" song. Seriously, enough with the singing!
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* ''{{Demetrios}}'': For me, the episode "Family Goy" made me stop watching the show. The BrokenAesop at the end was bad enough on its own, but what really made me stop liking the show was [[DudeNotFunny Peter's attempts to kill Lois because of her newly discovered Jewish ancestry]]. Especially the tasteless [[SarcasmMode homage]] to ''Schindler's List''. I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]]. And not the [[MagnificentBastard cool Joker]] from ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''; the [[NightmareFuel creepy]] [[MonsterClown Joker]] as portrayed by [[Film/{{Batman}} Jack Nicholson]] and [[DarkKnightTrilogy Heath Ledger]].

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* ''{{Demetrios}}'': For me, the episode "Family Goy" made me stop watching the show. The BrokenAesop at the end was bad enough on its own, but what really made me stop liking the show was [[DudeNotFunny Peter's attempts to kill Lois because of her newly discovered Jewish ancestry]]. Especially the tasteless [[SarcasmMode homage]] to ''Schindler's List''. I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]]. And not the [[MagnificentBastard cool Joker]] from ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''; the [[NightmareFuel creepy]] [[MonsterClown Joker]] as portrayed by [[Film/{{Batman}} Jack Nicholson]] and [[DarkKnightTrilogy [[TheDarkKnightSaga Heath Ledger]].
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* ''{{Demetrios}}'': For me, the episode "Family Goy" made me stop watching the show. The BrokenAesop at the end was bad enough on its own, but what really made me stop liking the show was [[DudeNotFunny Peter's attempts to kill Lois because of her newly discovered Jewish ancestry]]. Especially the tasteless [[SarcasmMode homage]] to ''Schindler's List''. I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]]. And not the [[MagnificentBastard cool Joker]] from ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''; the [[NightmareFuel creepy]] [[MonsterClown Joker]] as portrayed by [[Film/Batman Jack Nicholson]] and [[DarkKnightTrilogy Heath Ledger]].

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* ''{{Demetrios}}'': For me, the episode "Family Goy" made me stop watching the show. The BrokenAesop at the end was bad enough on its own, but what really made me stop liking the show was [[DudeNotFunny Peter's attempts to kill Lois because of her newly discovered Jewish ancestry]]. Especially the tasteless [[SarcasmMode homage]] to ''Schindler's List''. I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]]. And not the [[MagnificentBastard cool Joker]] from ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''; the [[NightmareFuel creepy]] [[MonsterClown Joker]] as portrayed by [[Film/Batman [[Film/{{Batman}} Jack Nicholson]] and [[DarkKnightTrilogy Heath Ledger]].
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* ''{{Demetrios}}'': For me, the episode "Family Goy" made me stop watching the show. The BrokenAesop at the end was bad enough on its own, but what really made me stop liking the show was [[DudeNotFunny Peter's attempts to kill Lois because of her newly discovered Jewish ancestry]]. Especially the tasteless [[SarcasmMode homage]] to ''Schindler's List''. I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]]. And not the [[MagnificentBastard cool Joker]] from ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''; the [[NightmareFuel creepy]] [[MonsterClown Joker]] as portrayed by [[Film/Batman Jack Nicholson]] and [[DarkKnightTrilogy Heath Ledger]].
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* ''Alternatevil'': Recently (2010), there was an episode where Peter and company embark on a journey to find the source of the world's dirty jokes. It was a decent enough episode, still littered with plotholes, but still moderately enjoyable. That is, until the gang travels to Washington DC, and to the Vietnam War Memorial. There was a poor caricature of a Vietnamese man bragging to the mourners there about 'winning' the Vietnam War. Now I know that these writers are the kind that pride themselves on the amount of hate mail they get, but this sincerely broke my heart. I thought, how dare you!? Vietnamese people are barely represented in the media as it is, and the few depictions are the sort of exotic smuggler gang of the week or as a Vietnam War retrospective (think generic flashback into combat in a jungle). How dare you propagate blatant racism on national television? Why cannot you look to us as ordinary humans and not some inane gimmick plot device?

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* ''Alternatevil'': Recently (2010), there was an episode where Peter and company embark on a journey to find the source of the world's dirty jokes. It was a decent enough episode, still littered with plotholes, but still moderately enjoyable. That is, until the gang travels to Washington DC, and to the Vietnam War Memorial. There was a poor caricature of a Vietnamese man bragging to the mourners there about 'winning' the Vietnam War. Now I know that these writers are the kind that pride themselves on the amount of hate mail they get, but this sincerely broke my heart. I thought, how dare you!? they? How dare you! Vietnamese people are barely represented in the media as it is, and the few depictions are the sort of exotic smuggler gang of the week or as a Vietnam War retrospective (think generic flashback into combat in a jungle). How dare you propagate blatant racism on national television? Why cannot you look to us as ordinary humans and not some inane gimmick plot device?
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* ''Alternatevil'': Recently (2010), there was an episode where Peter and company embark on a journey to find the source of the world's dirty jokes. It was a decent enough episode, still littered with plotholes, but still moderately enjoyable. That is, until the gang travels to Washington DC, and to the Vietnam War Memorial. There was a poor caricature of a Vietnamese man bragging to the mourners there about 'winning' the Vietnam War. Now I know that these writers are the kind that pride themselves on the amount of hate mail they get, but this sincerely broke my heart. I thought, how dare you!? Vietnamese people are barely represented in the media as it is, and the few depictions are the sort of exotic smuggler gang of the week or as a Vietnam War retrospective (think generic flashback into combat in a jungle). How dare you propagate blatant racism on national television? Why cannot you look to us as ordinary humans and not some inane gimmick plot device?
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* SickBritKid: Every episode following Lois Kills Stewie. It was the final appearance of the awesome matricidal Stewie persona that everyone knew and loved. Beforehand, Stewie was still a hilarious EvilGenius with CampGay tones mixed in here and there to make his character more likable and believable. After Lois Kills Stewie, he was derailed straight into a purely CampGay character with College-Douchebag-In-Baby's-Body overtones...

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** Also consider the fact that Stewie is ONE FRIGGIN' YEAR OLD! Having him be a dumping ground for Gay jokes in place of the evil genius baby is annoying enough, but some of the things he does (ie, flashing Brian's son, sticking his fingers in Brian's mouth and then sucking them) feel like a very disturbing attempt at child pornography jokes.
* "CharacterDerailment": It seems as if every character trait that made the Griffen family so likable and funny at the beginning has fizzled and been replaced with personalities that are unlikable, unfunny and incredibly annoying:
** Peter and Chris Griffen, once lovable oafs, are now obnoxious man-children who's intelligence rises and falls at the show's convenience.
** Brian, who's entire purpose in the show was to be not only the most intelligent but also most level-headed member of the family, is now a religion-and-government-loathing, right-wing, RuleAbidingRebel who believes that his way is the absolute right way and everyone who disagrees with him is a moron. His behavior almost makes this troper hate liberals.
*** Lampshaded: Never ask Quagmire [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdbnssEZ_Xk/ why he doesn't like Brian]]. Tho admittedly, he lists everything I hated about Brian and then some.
** Stewie, see SickBritKid.
** Meg and Lois haven't changed much, though both of them seem to be the Butt Monkies at the expense of others. Meg, of corse, is treated like dirt for absolutely no reason, ranging from ironically amusing to hurtful. Peter making a joke about her having ovarian cancer just to mess with her is genuinely offensive on many levels. Something tells me Meg will soon be joining the Menendez brothers in prison.
Having the characters act out of character for a gag has always been common on Family Guy, but now their personalities are so flippant that one wonders if it's still a gag or if these are their actual personalities from here on out.
* Dead Baby Comedy: And how. Again, not surprising with a show like this, but there are certain noteworthy episodes that are far too insensitive to be tongue-in-cheek.
** The episode "Road To The Multiverse" was wildly praised by DeviantArt and FurAffinity users for the beautifully animated "Disney universe" scene, where the setting look like something out of a fairy tale, animals smile with their mouths open and the animation is fluid and detailed. What many fans of this scene neglected to notice was that Mort Goldman is beaten to death by the characters at the end. Get it? 'cause Walt Disney was supposedly anti-semetic? Get it? Get it?! This troper was offended by that scene not only as a Jewish person and a big fan of Walt Disney, but also by the fact that they [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LlZ0nmOQo/ already made that joke.]].
** "Tales of a Third Grade Nothing" is a prime example of just about everything wrong with FG's humor: Peter encourages small children to beat their wives when they grow up, blows up a children's hospital (which the audience is shown in great detail), forces Meg's face into his ass to smell his fart against her will and makes fun of his teacher for having gotten an abortion. Far more tasteless is when Tom Tucker cannot pronounce a middle eastern child's name, instead calling him "something September 11th-y" and later "North Tower."
*** Lampshaded, sort of, as Seth MacFarlane has made several (slightly more tasteful) jokes about 9/11 in response to his almost being on one of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. The writers clearly don't know when to stop, tho.
* Cannot Tell A Joke / Don't Explain The Joke:
** In "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag," Stewie is amused by the DVD cover of "Dan In Real Life" because he's lying down on pancakes, and people don't usually lie down on pancakes when they could easily lie down on a pillow instead. That's nice, Stewie, now TELL A JOKE!!!
** A lot of the recent cutaway gags are, in fact, remakes of movie scenes and music videos that are played off as parodies and satirical references when they're actually shot-for-shot, word for work remakes a la Friedberg and Seltzer. Most notably was taking the actual live-action template of Gene Kelly's dance with Jerry Mouse in "Anchors Aweigh" and putting Stewie in Jerry's place. Literally nothing else is different about it. MacFarlane even admitted (albeit jokingly) that he did it because one of the artists on the show wanted to prove to him that he could, giving even less of a purpose to a scene that really has no reason to exist even outside of the show. Also, Stewie's frame-by-frame remake of the video for "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" is so pointless that there isn't even a good payoff when it's over.
** If you watch the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ENNyGlmQY/ trailer for Something Something Something Dark Side]], at approximately 31 seconds in, you'll see the exact moment Family Guy stops being funny.
*** The show's overall reliance on inside jokes and it's longevity in general is depressingly unfunny. It's one thing for The Simpsons to do it, as they've been on for over two decades. Family Guy started reusing it's popular gags before it was eight years old.

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** Also consider the fact that Stewie is ONE FRIGGIN' YEAR OLD! Having him be a dumping ground for Gay jokes in place of the evil genius baby is annoying enough, but some of the things he does (ie, flashing Brian's son, sticking his fingers in Brian's mouth and then sucking them) feel like a very disturbing attempt at child pornography jokes.
* "CharacterDerailment": It seems as if every character trait that made the Griffen family so likable and funny at the beginning has fizzled and been replaced with personalities that are unlikable, unfunny and incredibly annoying:
** Peter and Chris Griffen, once lovable oafs, are now obnoxious man-children who's intelligence rises and falls at the show's convenience.
** Brian, who's entire purpose in the show was to be not only the most intelligent but also most level-headed member of the family, is now a religion-and-government-loathing, right-wing, RuleAbidingRebel who believes that his way is the absolute right way and everyone who disagrees with him is a moron. His behavior almost makes this troper hate liberals.
*** Lampshaded: Never ask Quagmire [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdbnssEZ_Xk/ why he doesn't like Brian]]. Tho admittedly, he lists everything I hated about Brian and then some.
** Stewie, see SickBritKid.
** Meg and Lois haven't changed much, though both of them seem to be the Butt Monkies at the expense of others. Meg, of corse, is treated like dirt for absolutely no reason, ranging from ironically amusing to hurtful. Peter making a joke about her having ovarian cancer just to mess with her is genuinely offensive on many levels. Something tells me Meg will soon be joining the Menendez brothers in prison.
Having the characters act out of character for a gag has always been common on Family Guy, but now their personalities are so flippant that one wonders if it's still a gag or if these are their actual personalities from here on out.
* Dead Baby Comedy: And how. Again, not surprising with a show like this, but there are certain noteworthy episodes that are far too insensitive to be tongue-in-cheek.
** The episode "Road To The Multiverse" was wildly praised by DeviantArt and FurAffinity users for the beautifully animated "Disney universe" scene, where the setting look like something out of a fairy tale, animals smile with their mouths open and the animation is fluid and detailed. What many fans of this scene neglected to notice was that Mort Goldman is beaten to death by the characters at the end. Get it? 'cause Walt Disney was supposedly anti-semetic? Get it? Get it?! This troper was offended by that scene not only as a Jewish person and a big fan of Walt Disney, but also by the fact that they [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LlZ0nmOQo/ already made that joke.]].
** "Tales of a Third Grade Nothing" is a prime example of just about everything wrong with FG's humor: Peter encourages small children to beat their wives when they grow up, blows up a children's hospital (which the audience is shown in great detail), forces Meg's face into his ass to smell his fart against her will and makes fun of his teacher for having gotten an abortion. Far more tasteless is when Tom Tucker cannot pronounce a middle eastern child's name, instead calling him "something September 11th-y" and later "North Tower."
*** Lampshaded, sort of, as Seth MacFarlane has made several (slightly more tasteful) jokes about 9/11 in response to his almost being on one of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. The writers clearly don't know when to stop, tho.
* Cannot Tell A Joke / Don't Explain The Joke:
** In "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag," Stewie is amused by the DVD cover of "Dan In Real Life" because he's lying down on pancakes, and people don't usually lie down on pancakes when they could easily lie down on a pillow instead. That's nice, Stewie, now TELL A JOKE!!!
** A lot of the recent cutaway gags are, in fact, remakes of movie scenes and music videos that are played off as parodies and satirical references when they're actually shot-for-shot, word for work remakes a la Friedberg and Seltzer. Most notably was taking the actual live-action template of Gene Kelly's dance with Jerry Mouse in "Anchors Aweigh" and putting Stewie in Jerry's place. Literally nothing else is different about it. MacFarlane even admitted (albeit jokingly) that he did it because one of the artists on the show wanted to prove to him that he could, giving even less of a purpose to a scene that really has no reason to exist even outside of the show. Also, Stewie's frame-by-frame remake of the video for "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" is so pointless that there isn't even a good payoff when it's over.
** If you watch the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ENNyGlmQY/ trailer for Something Something Something Dark Side]], at approximately 31 seconds in, you'll see the exact moment Family Guy stops being funny.
*** The show's overall reliance on inside jokes and it's longevity in general is depressingly unfunny. It's one thing for The Simpsons to do it, as they've been on for over two decades. Family Guy started reusing it's popular gags before it was eight years old.

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----**Also consider the fact that Stewie is ONE FRIGGIN' YEAR OLD! Having him be a dumping ground for Gay jokes in place of the evil genius baby is annoying enough, but some of the things he does (ie, flashing Brian's son, sticking his fingers in Brian's mouth and then sucking them) feel like a very disturbing attempt at child pornography jokes.
*"CharacterDerailment": It seems as if every character trait that made the Griffen family so likable and funny at the beginning has fizzled and been replaced with personalities that are unlikable, unfunny and incredibly annoying:
**Peter and Chris Griffen, once lovable oafs, are now obnoxious man-children who's intelligence rises and falls at the show's convenience.
**Brian, who's entire purpose in the show was to be not only the most intelligent but also most level-headed member of the family, is now a religion-and-government-loathing, right-wing, RuleAbidingRebel who believes that his way is the absolute right way and everyone who disagrees with him is a moron. His behavior almost makes this troper hate liberals.
***Lampshaded: Never ask Quagmire [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdbnssEZ_Xk/ why he doesn't like Brian]]. Tho admittedly, he lists everything I hated about Brian and then some.
**Stewie, see SickBritKid.
**Meg and Lois haven't changed much, though both of them seem to be the Butt Monkies at the expense of others. Meg, of corse, is treated like dirt for absolutely no reason, ranging from ironically amusing to hurtful. Peter making a joke about her having ovarian cancer just to mess with her is genuinely offensive on many levels. Something tells me Meg will soon be joining the Menendez brothers in prison.
Having the characters act out of character for a gag has always been common on Family Guy, but now their personalities are so flippant that one wonders if it's still a gag or if these are their actual personalities from here on out.
*Dead Baby Comedy: And how. Again, not surprising with a show like this, but there are certain noteworthy episodes that are far too insensitive to be tongue-in-cheek.
**The episode "Road To The Multiverse" was wildly praised by DeviantArt and FurAffinity users for the beautifully animated "Disney universe" scene, where the setting look like something out of a fairy tale, animals smile with their mouths open and the animation is fluid and detailed. What many fans of this scene neglected to notice was that Mort Goldman is beaten to death by the characters at the end. Get it? 'cause Walt Disney was supposedly anti-semetic? Get it? Get it?! This troper was offended by that scene not only as a Jewish person and a big fan of Walt Disney, but also by the fact that they [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LlZ0nmOQo/ already made that joke.]].
**"Tales of a Third Grade Nothing" is a prime example of just about everything wrong with FG's humor: Peter encourages small children to beat their wives when they grow up, blows up a children's hospital (which the audience is shown in great detail), forces Meg's face into his ass to smell his fart against her will and makes fun of his teacher for having gotten an abortion. Far more tasteless is when Tom Tucker cannot pronounce a middle eastern child's name, instead calling him "something September 11th-y" and later "North Tower."
***Lampshaded, sort of, as Seth MacFarlane has made several (slightly more tasteful) jokes about 9/11 in response to his almost being on one of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. The writers clearly don't know when to stop, tho.
*Cannot Tell A Joke / Don't Explain The Joke:
**In "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag," Stewie is amused by the DVD cover of "Dan In Real Life" because he's lying down on pancakes, and people don't usually lie down on pancakes when they could easily lie down on a pillow instead. That's nice, Stewie, now TELL A JOKE!!!
**A lot of the recent cutaway gags are, in fact, remakes of movie scenes and music videos that are played off as parodies and satirical references when they're actually shot-for-shot, word for work remakes a la Friedberg and Seltzer. Most notably was taking the actual live-action template of Gene Kelly's dance with Jerry Mouse in "Anchors Aweigh" and putting Stewie in Jerry's place. Literally nothing else is different about it. MacFarlane even admitted (albeit jokingly) that he did it because one of the artists on the show wanted to prove to him that he could, giving even less of a purpose to a scene that really has no reason to exist even outside of the show. Also, Stewie's frame-by-frame remake of the video for "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" is so pointless that there isn't even a good payoff when it's over.
**If you watch the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ENNyGlmQY/ trailer for Something Something Something Dark Side]], at approximately 31 seconds in, you'll see the exact moment Family Guy stops being funny.
***The show's overall reliance on inside jokes and it's longevity in general is depressingly unfunny. It's one thing for The Simpsons to do it, as they've been on for over two decades. Family Guy started reusing it's popular gags before it was eight years old.

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* ipdf3: the Brian and Stewie episode. You know the one. Brian gets locked in a vault with Stewie and what follows are the most unwatchable "humor scenes" in history. The only humor in that episode appears to be quite a few minutes of Stewie telling Brian to eat his poop and then Brian actuall doing it. There were no laughs to be found in the entire first half of the episode. However, the serious scenes should have saved it, right? It should have, but it felt too much like CharacterDerailment. Brian has been occasionally unhappy but never showed signs of depression or suicidal thinking. And the last part, where Brian and Stewie admit they love each other after having spent the entire first half of the episode abusing each other, just felt forced. Bottom line: no humor and a very hollow emotional theme. Please FamilyGuy, stick to what you do best: raunchy offensive humor, not mediocre poop jokes and soap opera dramatics.

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* ipdf3: Ipdf3: the Brian and Stewie episode. You know the one. Brian gets locked in a vault with Stewie and what follows are the most unwatchable "humor scenes" in history. The only humor in that episode appears to be quite a few minutes of Stewie telling Brian to eat his poop and then Brian actuall doing it. There were no laughs to be found in the entire first half of the episode. However, the serious scenes should have saved it, right? It should have, but it felt too much like CharacterDerailment. Brian has been occasionally unhappy but never showed signs of depression or suicidal thinking. And the last part, where Brian and Stewie admit they love each other after having spent the entire first half of the episode abusing each other, just felt forced. Bottom line: no humor and a very hollow emotional theme. Please FamilyGuy, stick to what you do best: raunchy offensive humor, not mediocre poop jokes and soap opera dramatics.
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*ipdf3: the Brian and Stewie episode. You know the one. Brian gets locked in a vault with Stewie and what follows are the most unwatchable "humor scenes" in history. The only humor in that episode appears to be quite a few minutes of Stewie telling Brian to eat his poop and then Brian actuall doing it. There were no laughs to be found in the entire first half of the episode. However, the serious scenes should have saved it, right? It should have, but it felt too much like CharacterDerailment. Brian has been occasionally unhappy but never showed signs of depression or suicidal thinking. And the last part, where Brian and Stewie admit they love each other after having spent the entire first half of the episode abusing each other, just felt forced. Bottom line: no humor and a very hollow emotional theme. Please FamilyGuy, stick to what you do best: raunchy offensive humor, not mediocre poop jokes and soap opera dramatics.
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* SickBritKid: Every episode following Lois Kills Stewie. It was the final appearance of the awesome matricidal Stewie persona that everyone knew and loved. Beforehand, Stewie was still a hilarious EvilGenius with CampGay tones mixed in here and there to make his character more likable and believable. After Lois Kills Stewie, he was derailed straight into a purely CampGay character with College-Douchebag-In-Baby's-Body overtones...
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** Tropers/Grimace: The horrific icing on the mouldy, smelly cake to the above is that the same episode had a wonderfully silly sub-plot featuring Stewie's antics with the cast of ''StarTrekTNG''. So not only was the main plot godawful (no pun etc), but they had an excellent opportunity for an epsiode of hilarious TNG gags that the audience would have loved, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but they just wasted it]].
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* ''Thormy'': ''The Juice is Loose'' is an OJ episode. Hey, remember back in 1995 when that would've been funny? The episode was written to probably conicide with the rumors of the OJ "What if I Did Do It?" book. But it seems in bad taste and a joke way too late to be really funny. Any episode after that is just awful.
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** But that's hilarious.
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**But that's hilarious.

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