History DethroningMoment / AdventureTime

** supernintendo128: "The Red Throne" was a disappointment. Finn did not need to be in this episode; he served no purpose other then to be a nuisance to the protagonists and flirt with Flame Princess, who he should've gotten over ages ago. Cinnamon Bun is suddenly badass, which wouldn't be bad if it didn't come completely out of the blue. At least have some buildup. And now he's suddenly in love with Flame Princess. Why!? Talk about a complete AssPull[[invoked]]! All this episode did was that it hammered in the fact that [[ShipSinking Finn X Flame Princess is still dead for now.]] And why did they have to leave Jake out? He would've made this episode more tolerable. And why didn't Flame Lord force Flame Princess to marry him instead of walking away after being rejected? The writers should at least look like they're trying. They could've leaved that plot point out all together!

** EchoingSilence: I agree as well. I like ''Adventure Time''. One of my favorite cartoons. Finn just seems unnecessary indeed in this episode! Especially since they already [[ShipSinking sank the ship in a previous episode]] where FP becomes the Ruler of the Flame Kingdom. Flame Princess tells Finn in no uncertain terms that they can't be a couple again. Finn accepts this, a bit with difficulty at first, but FP tell him they can still hang out and be friends, he just has to be honest with her. Finn happily takes that. And he had accepted that he had fucked up a lot with one of my favorite episodes "Dungeon Train", where Finn goes through some emotional development and realizes that though life is painful, he can't just hide away and he must move on, he got over his breakup. He's gone through that Arc. He's in a better mood. Why oh why did they set him back to the Finn that wants to get back together with FP. Like I said. The Ship was sank!

* Tropers/{{heartauthor}}: My original DMoS was "Another Five More Short Graybles", but I've found myself a new moment that I find more irritating. With all the ups and downs of Season Five, "Root Beer Guy" was actually a pretty refreshing episodes, and definitely one of the better ones I've seen in a while. But then, literally at the last second of the episode, I saw something that actually gave me {{Mood Whiplash}}. Earlier in the episode, it was acknowledged that Root Beer Guy was attempting to write a mystery novel, and he had been spending the last ten years trying to write it. At the end of the episode, RBG's life seems to have taken a turn for the better after [[spoiler: becoming the head of the Banana Guards]], and as we see him and his wife happily going for a walk outside... [[FlatWhat there's a split-second shot of RBG's typewriter in the trash]]. Now wait a minute! You mean to tell me that this project that was clearly very important to Root Beer Guy, to the point where it was interfering with the rest of his life, and he had been working on it for ten years, just literally ends up in the trash after one specific series of events? Like I said, yes, RBG's preoccupation with the story and solving the episode's mystery was affecting his real-life relationships (mainly with his wife), but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to have things he's passionate about. And if anything, at the end of the episode, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot RBG actually has a story]]! He could have written about his real-life adventure and let people enjoy that! While it's nice that RBG was able to move forward in his life, as someone who wishes to be able to write for a living, that last second of the episode was not a pleasant sight to see.

** Tropers/FAS1997: It was this episode that I consider the Dethroning Moment of Adventure Time due to the cruelty in it. I hated how Lemongrab went from funny to a FatBastard. He became such a different character in two years. I can agree what the other are saying. Not one scene was memorable and I think this episode is forgettable. I'd rather watch WesternAnimation/RegularShow Laundry Woes than this. Lemongrab is truly unacceptable with the behavior he did in this episode and Lemonhope.

** Tropers/K2Misfit: All of the above and then some. First, I was bothered by it being an IdiotPlot with a weak MagicVsScience argument that reminded me of a poor man's version of that ep of WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons where [[CreatorsPet Lisa]] even at the height of her [[BuffySpeak Soapbox Sadie-est]] was reasonably skeptical about an angel skeleton that might be a sign of the apocalypse, but still human enough that she squeezed Marge's hand in case she was wrong so it wasn't as Anvilicious as it could've been in either direction. Here, it was just PB being a JerkAss and Starchy being a ManChild all the for the sake of [[IdiotPlot plot.]] That was when this show ended up on my Done With List, wasn't going to bother with ever again and looking upon the other entries here felt like a dodged not just a bullet, but BulletHell. However [[HereWeGoAgain Second,]] the ep being [[InNameOnly discussed]] in the comments section of Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses made the memory even [[UpToEleven more obnoxious]] due to the insane sheer amount of FanWank commentors used to argue in either direction with claims to canon, that only Magic or Science can exist instead of [[TakeAThirdOption both as the show's been pointing out all along,]] PB being a complex character that and worst of all, [[FlatWhat that this ep was allegedly deep for getting an adult audience to question its themes.]] [[NoJustNoReaction No.]] It's a blatant, unsubtle IdiotPlot only worthy of a Chick Tract, [[FakeNationality bugger all]] to continuity, a CreatorsPet acting like a strawman against other strawmen that [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot wasted potential in not explaining actual possibly issues]] and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking merely provided fuel for the umpteenth Internet Flame War like anywhere else on the net.]] [[ThisIsGonnaSuck This is the beginning of the show's Dork Age]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere and I'm washing my hands of this bullshit for good.]]

** {{@/DeepC}}: The ending to the ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' episode, "Wizard Battle". Now I absolutely love this series with a passion and the beginning and middle of this episode weren't all that bad. Now why do I loathe the ending so much? Well allow me to explain the beginning first. The whole episode starts of with Finn and Jake watching a battle amongst wizards. Everything is going great for them until they see the Ice King cheating so he could win the grand prize, which is a kiss on the lips from Princess Bubblegum. This motivates Finn to enter the Wizard Battle disguised as a wizard, stop the Ice King, and kiss Princess Bubblegum. While they fight, they come across a mediocre wizard named Abracadaniel, who wanted to fight, but does not want to kiss Princess Bubblegum. So Finn decides to help him win in order to save Princess Bubblegum. As the battle progresses, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Abracadaniel gets even better with his magic and manages to defeat the Ice King]]. Now this sounds all fine and dandy, correct? Well here comes the Dethroning Moment of Suck; when Abracadaniel and Finn are the only ones left, Finn forfeits immediately, which meant that Abracadaniel won. With his newly developed confidence, Abracadaniel decides that he does want to kiss Princes Bubblegum after all. However, due to the "Power Of Love", Finn goes batshit crazy and screeches at Abracadaniel in a way that can be considered {{OOC}}, immature, and downright mean. This causes [[TheWoobie Abracadaniel]] to fall over, and even though it appears that the announcer is about to call him out for that, Finn still wins! Later, Finn is stressed out about hiding his feelings; now, it's understandable that you're stressed about hiding your feelings, [[DesignatedHero but what about having regrets for the way you screamed at Abracadaniel, pulverized his new-found confidence, and hurt his feelings?!]] Later, Finn reveals who he is in front of Princess Bubblegum. Now does he get any sort of scolding or punishment from this? Well, he does get a slap on the face for cheating, but he still wins the prize of getting a kiss from Princess Bubblegum! Not only did Finn cheat, but he acted like a {{Jerkass}} and started staggering near MarySue territory.

* Tropers/Silverblade2: "Heat Signature". Like a lot of people, Marceline is one of my favorite characters. However, I can't stand the moment where she let her ghost friends sucking Finn and Jake's brain on the basis that vampire can't beat ghosts ([[FridgeLogic right after kicking them]]) and express that she just came to appologize for pranking them into thinking they became vampires. That was horribly out of character.

* Tropers/{{Epi02O3}}: For me it was Ocarina, the fact that the main antagonist in the episode is the Deuteragonist's grown up child is for one a punch in the gut. Two, the guy's a business man who bought his father's house deed in a "shady" deal with the guy's best friend for a bass. Yeah it's awesome, but what the heck Marceline? Plus then they try to teach the whole dynamic about the strong preying on the weak to a 16 year old kid in terms of why their house was forced to be put on rent unless they get kicked out... I mean, you don't just try to teach a Kid about something like that at that age, especially someone who is living After the End of the World. Who just went through a whole ton of crap including losing his arm and then getting it back. I can understand Kim's desire for Jake to grow up and be a good father, but did you have to involve your much younger uncle into the mix too?

* Tropers/{{PrinnyRamza}}: Stakes Part 8. I actually was enjoying the mini series for the most part until the final episode. It was trying so hard to be a finale that it forgot to make sense. First, the whole last episode is a full of blatant excuse to have everything go back to the status quo. I'm fine with Princess Bubblegum becoming Princess again because that was at least foreshadowed, but nope everyone had to grab the idiot ball and trust a blind Peppermint Butler with highly unstable vampire essence and then the essence bit Marceline because reasons I guess. Considering how the whole previous episode was about making different choices to get different results, this was a huge copout. My second issue is that two of the Princesses come out of no where and at first I was excited. I'm like "oh man, Hotdog princess is sending out her archers and here's Flame Princess sending artillery and oh... only two princesses? Wait why these two? Did you pick their names out of a hat and you didn't have time for anyone else?". Furthermore when Marceline joins this big battle they have this moment where everyone turns to her, even these two princesses who were looking from a distance. Hotdog princess I can forgive, but Flame Princess was sending strikes from the Fire Kingdom. There is no reason she would teleport to the grasslands and then dramatically look at Marceline. And my third and final reason. Finn and Jake are left to be purely comedy relief, they were pretty much incompetent the whole mini series but they didn't help in this episode at all.

* Tropers/{{PrinnyRamza}}: Stakes Part 8. I actually was enjoying the mini series for the most part until the final episode. It was trying so hard to be a finale that it forgot to make sense. First, the whole last episode is a full of blatant excuse to have everything go back to the status quo. I'm fine with Princess Bubblegum becoming Princess again because that was at least foreshadowed, but nope everyone had to grab the idiot ball and trust a blind Peppermint Butler with highly unstable vampire essence and then the essence bit Marceline because reasons I guess. Considering how the whole previous episode was about making different choices to get different results, this was a huge copout. My second issue is that two of the Princesses come out of no where and at first I was excited. I'm like "oh man, Hotdog princess is sending out her archers and here's Flame Princess sending artillery and oh... only two princesses? Wait why these two? Did you pick their names out of a hat and you didn't have time for anyone else?". Furthermore when Marceline joins this big battle they have this moment where everyone turns to her, even these two princesses who were looking from a distance. Hotdog princess I can forgive, but Flame Princess was sending strikes from the Fire Kingdom. There is no reason she would teleport to the grasslands and then dramatically look at Marceline. And my third and final reason. Finn and Jake are left to be purely comedy relief, they were pretty much incompetent the whole mini series but they didn't help in this episode at all.

* Tropers/Silverblade2: "Heat Signature". Like a lot of people, Marceline is one of my favorite characters. However, I can't stand the moment where she let her ghost friends sucking Finn and Jake's brain on the basis that vampire can't beat ghosts ([[FridgeLogic right after kicking them]]) and express that she just came to appologize for pranking them into thinking they became vampire. That was horribly out of character.

** Tropers/K2Misfit: All of the above and then some. First, I was bothered by it being an IdiotPlot with a weak MagicVsScience argument that reminded me of a poor man's version of that ep of TheSimpsons where [[CreatorsPet Lisa]] even at the height of her [[BuffySpeak Soapbox Sadie-est]] was reasonably skeptical about an angel skeleton that might be a sign of the apocalypse, but still human enough that she squeezed Marge's hand in case she was wrong so it wasn't as Anvilicious as it could've been in either direction. Here, it was just PB being a JerkAss and Starchy being a ManChild all the for the sake of [[IdiotPlot plot.]] That was when this show ended up on my Done With List, wasn't going to bother with ever again and looking upon the other entries here felt like a dodged not just a bullet, but BulletHell. However [[HereWeGoAgain Second,]] the ep being [[InNameOnly discussed]] in the comments section of Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses made the memory even [[UpToEleven more obnoxious]] due to the insane sheer amount of FanWank commentors used to argue in either direction with claims to canon, that only Magic or Science can exist instead of [[TakeAThirdOption both as the show's been pointing out all along,]] PB being a complex character that and worst of all, [[FlatWhat that this ep was allegedly deep for getting an adult audience to question its themes.]] [[NoJustNoReaction No.]] It's a blatant, unsubtle IdiotPlot only worthy of a Chick Tract, [[FakeNationality bugger all]] to continuity, a CreatorsPet acting like a strawman against other strawmen that [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot wasted potential in not explaining actual possibly issues]] and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking merely provided fuel for the umpteenth Internet Flame War like anywhere else on the net.]] [[ThisIsGonnaSuck This is the beginning of the show's Dork Age]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere and I'm washing my hands of this bullshit for good.]]

** [=tordles=]: The whole Lemongrab arc really had me starting worry Adventure Time was straying from the whole "progressive cartoon" track, but "Breezy" was just... a completely unlikeable episode for me. The majority of the plot wasn't as awful as it could have been, I guess, but the level of importance the writers continue to place on Finn's apparent need for romance, even though it's been established time and time again that he seems to either move on from his past flings or save romance for a later period in his life, is just starting to get ridiculous. What's the point of having Finn get so obsessed with having a girlfriend? And worse, how are we supposed to sympathize with him when his first response to feeling empty and disappointed about his dad is to go out and start macking on every princess in sight? Are we expected to sympathize with his blatant disrespect of all these girls while he takes advantage of their feelings? Because, personally, I just felt irritated by him. Having Finn behave this way is rude to the female characters, and disrespectful to Finn's character development, especially in terms of his view on romance. But no, they just can't let him learn his lesson, and seem to include "Breezy", who is also using Finn to get to his flower, simply to make his actions appear to be a little less reprehensible. And frankly, I'm not even going to get started on the whole [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale LSP making a move on Finn, pushing him despite his discomfort, and then having him come around and make the whole thing seem okay despite Finn's lack of consent, all because Finn is a boy.]] For the same show that gave us the wonderful message of not backing down when it comes to people making you uncomfortable in "Lady and Peebles", it's downright ''backwards''. But the worst part by far, for me, was Finn getting his arm back. They could have explored so many new possibilities with a million different innovative, magical, fantastical prosthetics he could have received, not to mention him coming to terms with his disability and totally ''owning'' it (seriously, how many disabled kids out there would be thrilled to be able to relate to FINN of all characters?) but no. They had to go running back to the StatusQuo with their tails between their legs. I just expect so much better from this show after all the leaps and bounds it's made in terms of being an adult, emotional program that, above all, teaches us wonderful lessons and holds good values in such high regard.

* Tropers/{{Epi02O3}}: For me it was Ocarina, the fact that you're the main antagonist in the episode is the Deuteragonist's grown up child is for one a punch in the gut. Two, the guy's a business man who bought his father's house deed in a "Shady" deal with the guy's best friend for a Bass. Yeah it's awesome but what the heck Marceline? Plus then they try to teach the whole dynamic about the strong preying on the weak to a 16 year old kid in terms of why their house was forced to be put on rent unless they get kicked out... I mean you don't just try to teach a Kid about something like that at that age, especially someone who is living After the End of the World. Who just went through a whole ton of crap including losing his arm and then getting it back. I can understand Kim's desire for Jake to grow up and be a good father, but did you have to involve your much younger uncle into the mix too?
** {{darkwing}}: I was willing to give Adventure Time a second chance after "Breezy" but this episode made me reconsider that. The thing that got me was Kim thinking Jake and Finn don't have a real job and he can't respect them? Uh, yeah rescuing princesses, facing dangerous monsters, and oh yeah only reason the Lich hasn't killed all life everywhere. I'd say even if it isn't a formal 9 to 5 job what Finn and Jake do is far more important and far more respectable than anything Kim will ever accomplish at the office.
* {{regularshowman}}: For me, the DMOS in this show is in the episode "Nemesis". Not only was this yet another episode completely lacking any Finn and Jake (seriously is anyone else getting sick of that?), not only were this episode's main cast people I didn't give a crap about, but this episode proved to me that Adventure Time was getting stale. This episode was trying way too hard to be weird and zany at times with nemesis himself driving his kids around in a minivan (Get it? He's supposed to be a badass but he drives his kids around in a minivan with his kids like a normal parent! Hur de dur hur!) which is stupid. That and it was trying way too hard to be cool. Which it isn't. Oh, and what the fuck was up with that ending? Oh and the aforementioned lack of Finn and Jake for, what? The third episode now! As well as them being substituted for boring characters who I don't give a crap about just killed this tired and boring episode for me.

* Tropers/{{PrinnyRamza}}: Stakes Part 8. I actually was enjoying the mini series for the most part until the final episode. It was trying so hard to be a finale that it forgot to make sense. First, the whole last episode is a full of blatant excuse to have everything go back to the status quo. I'm fine with Princess Bubblegum becoming Princess again because that was at least foreshadowed, but nope everyone had to grab the idiot ball and trust a blind Peppermint Butler with highly unstable vampire essence and then the essence bit Marceline because reasons I guess. Considering how the whole previous episode was about making different choices to get different results, this was a huge copout. My second issue is that two of the Princesses come out of no where and at first i was excited. I'm like "oh man, Hotdog princess is sending out her archers and here's Flame Princess sending artillery and oh... only two princesses? Wait why these two? Did you pick their names out of a hat and you didn't have time for anyone else?". Furthermore when Marceline joins these big battle they have this moment where everyone turns to her, even these two princesses who were looking from a distance. Hotdog princess I can forgive, but Flame Princess was sending strikes from the Fire Kingdom. There is no reason she would teleport to the grasslands and then dramatically look at Marceline. And my third and final reason. Finn and Jake are left to be purely comedy relief, they were pretty much incompetent the whole mini series but they didn't help in this episode at all.

** Loekman3: The very fact that Finn gains his arm because of a one-shot character that I don't give a damn about is the [=DMOS=] to me. If he regains his arm because of an improved relationship with Flame Princess, Marceline, Bubblegum, or hell even Ice King, I would have accepted his arm regeneration because at least it makes up for it with a heartwarming moment between my favorite characters. But nope, instead he regains it back from the character of the day who is so unlikeable that it broke my WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief that he even regains it. Adding insult to the injury, Breezy is never seen or mentioned again yet Finn continues to keep his right arm back so to me, this is one of the few moments where the developers tried too hard to cater to kids sine they clearly don't like seeing Finn with only one arm.

** Tropers/K2Misfit: All of the above and then some. First, I was bothered by it being an IdiotPlot with a weak MagicVsScience argument that reminded me of a poor man's version of that ep of TheSimpsons where [[CreatorsPet Lisa]] even at the height of her [[BuffySpeak Soapbox Sadie-est]] was reasonably skeptical about an angel skeleton that might be a sign of the apocalypse, but still human enough that she squeezed Marge's hand in case she was wrong so it wasn't as Anvilicious as it could've been in either direction. Here, it was just PB being a JerkAss and Starchy being a ManChild all the for the sake of [[IdiotPlot plot.]] That was when this show ended up on my Done With List, wasn't going to bother with ever again and looking upon the other entries here felt like a dodged not just a bullet, but BulletHell. However [[HereWeGoAgain Second,]] the ep being [[InNameOnly discussed]] in the comments section of ThatGuyWithTheGlasses made the memory even [[UpToEleven more obnoxious]] due to the insane sheer amount of FanWank commentors used to argue in either direction with claims to canon, that only Magic or Science can exist instead of [[TakeAThirdOption both as the show's been pointing out all along,]] PB being a complex character that and worst of all, [[FlatWhat that this ep was allegedly deep for getting an adult audience to question its themes.]] [[NoJustNoReaction No.]] It's a blatant, unsubtle IdiotPlot only worthy of a Chick Tract, [[FakeNationality bugger all]] to continuity, a CreatorsPet acting like a strawman against other strawmen that [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot wasted potential in not explaining actual possibly issues]] and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking merely provided fuel for the umpteenth Internet Flame War like anywhere else on the net.]] [[ThisIsGonnaSuck This is the beginning of the show's Dork Age]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere and I'm washing my hands of this bullshit for good.]]

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** Tropers/MyLittlePingas: Ok, hate on PB all you want, but I cannot stand how the episode (and the audience) completely ignores the fact that the King of Ooo was a legitimately terrible person. Updated paperwork or not, he explicitly stated that Tree Trunks would "spend the next five years with [him] in [his] serenity compound, performing simple household repairs, to have and to hold in sickness and in health in [his] gated mountain compound." Nobody bats an eye at this, and [[DesignatedVillain Bubblegum is supposed to be the bad guy?]] Oh yeah, she went to the extreme by throwing everyone in jail, but if everyone hadn't taken stupid pills that morning she wouldn't have had to. PB was not acting like Lemongrab. She was trying to expose an awful person for who he was, not for her "ego's" sake, but for her friends and people. [[DesignatedVillain Bubblegum was the one who arranged most of the wedding, made it so neither LSP or Tree Trunks' ex-husbands would ruin it, put all her effort in to make it as perfect as possible, and how does Tree Trunks thank her?]] [[WhatTheHellHero Disallow her from performing the ceremony,]] and [[DesignatedHero "stands up to her tyranny" when the King of Ooo brings out his (supposedly) up-to-date license.]]

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* Tropers/{{honkgamzeehonk}}: Sad Face, not because it is a bad episode, but it has hardly any main characters except for a sleeping Jake's tail and a bunch of one-episode wonder bugs. This episode should have been used for something like the [[spoiler:[[OffscreenMomentofAwesome Fire Kingdom coup]]]], not pointless {{Filler}}.

* {{@/DeepC}}: The ending to the ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' episode, "Wizard Battle". Now I absolutely love this series with a passion and the beginning and middle of this episode weren't all that bad. Now why do I loathe the ending so much? Well allow me to explain the beginning first. The whole episode starts of with Finn and Jake watching a battle amongst wizards. Everything is going great for them until they see the Ice King cheating so he could win the grand prize, which is a kiss on the lips from Princess Bubblegum. This motivates Finn to enter the Wizard Battle disguised as a wizard, stop the Ice King, and kiss Princess Bubblegum. While they fight, they come across a mediocre wizard named Abracadaniel, who wanted to fight, but does not want to kiss Princess Bubblegum. So Finn decides to help him win in order to save Princess Bubblegum. As the battle progresses, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Abracadaniel gets even better with his magic and manages to defeat the Ice King]]. Now this sounds all fine and dandy, correct? Well here comes the Dethroning Moment of Suck; when Abracadaniel and Finn are the only ones left, Finn forfeits immediately, which meant that Abracadaniel won. With his newly developed confidence, Abracadaniel decides that he does want to kiss Princes Bubblegum after all. However, due to the "Power Of Love", Finn goes batshit crazy and screeches at Abracadaniel in a way that can be considered {{OOC}}, immature, and downright mean. This causes [[TheWoobie Abracadaniel]] to fall over, and even though it appears that the announcer is about to call him out for that, Finn still wins! Later, Finn is stressed out about hiding his feelings; now, it's understandable that you're stressed about hiding your feelings, [[DesignatedHero but what about having regrets for the way you screamed at Abracadaniel, pulverized his new-found confidence, and hurt his feelings?!]] Later, Finn reveals who he is in front of Princess Bubblegum. Now does he get any sort of scolding or punishment from this? Well, he does get a slap on the face for cheating, but he still wins the prize of getting a kiss from Princess Bubblegum! Not only did Finn cheat, but he acted like a {{Jerkass}} and started staggering near MarySue territory.

* Tropers/hurpdurp: "Too Old" for completely ruining Lemongrab's character by making him the most unlikable character in the entire show.

* Tropers/{{UnionMan}}: While ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' is one of my favorite animated shows, I found the episode "Apple Wedding" to be extremely disappointing: Like in "Wizards Only, Fools", Princess Bubblegum's characterization was awful, making her a petty and unlikeable JerkAss, who acted like an abusive ControlFreak: When Tree Trunks tells PB she does not accept Princess Bubblegum's authority to perform her wedding and insists that she can only be married by the King of Ooo, Princess Bubblegum enrages and later tries to expose the King of Ooo as a fraud... So [[spoiler:she enters into King of Ooo's zeppelin, makes it crash into the wedding, declares the wedding between Tree Trunks and Mr. Pig as a "criminal farce" while showing the King of Ooo's outdated wedding officiant license. But then, The King of Ooo pulls out his up-to-date paperwork and accuses PB of breaking into his blimp.]] Instead of recognizing her mistake, Princess Bubblegum [[spoiler:sends the King of Ooo to jail anyway]]. When the wedding guests protest, Princess Bubblegum [[spoiler:sends all of them to jail]]. Even Finn (who wasn´t even opposing her in those moments). In this episode, PB was shown to be NotSoDifferent to Lemongrab ([[spoiler:The way she threw them all in jail after saying "Nope. Shh. Nope. Nope. Nope. Stop talking, go to jail." is reminiscent of Lemongrab's retort: "All of you. Dungeon. Seven years, no trials."]]) acting in a complete tyrannical manner against her own friends. [[spoiler:So what if she released all of them at the end?]] She shouldn't have put her friends in jail in first place. [[KarmaHoudini She doesn't even receive any sort of minimal comeuppance for her completely unfair behavior]], and just seemed to confirm PB status as a CreatorsPet in the series. I think it would be very hard for viewers to find her likable after this episode.

* supernintendo128: "The Red Throne" was a disappointment. Finn did not need to be in this episode; he served no purpose other then to be a nuisance to the protagonists and flirt with Flame Princess, who he should've gotten over ages ago. Cinnamon Bun is suddenly badass, which wouldn't be bad if it didn't come completely out of the blue. At least have some buildup. And now he's suddenly in love with Flame Princess. Why!? Talk about a complete AssPull[[invoked]]! All this episode did was that it hammered in the fact that [[ShipSinking Finn X Flame Princess is still dead for now.]] And why did they have to leave Jake out? He would've made this episode more tolerable. And why didn't Flame Lord force Flame Princess to marry him instead of walking away after being rejected? The writers should at least look like they're trying. They could've leaved that plot point out all together!

* Tropers/Asger: I had to remove my original entry on "Too Old" just to talk about the new "Lemonhope" 2-parter. Oooooh how I loathe this episode. First of all it brings in that Purity-Stu Lemonhope back into the show, ramping him to almost absurd CreatorsPet [[invoked]] status with the little yellow turd acting like a selfish whiny brat for a good chunk of the episode while Bubblegum for some reason expects him to be the one to liberate the lemon kingdom. Gee PB, if only you had some sort of hyper-competent army of robot badasses on hand to handle things like that... too bad you casually committed genocide on them. I digress, a half hour devoted to a much loathed character while "Betty" had everything crammed into ten minutes. It comes down to a battle between Hope and the Earl, which ends when Lemongrab 2 takes the Earl's ear plugs, allowing Lemonhope to blow him up with his music. Then the real kicker- Lemongrabs 1 and 2 get stitched into a horrible abomination by PB, and the princess decides to just leave this poor borderline brain-dead creature to live alone (Didn't that end bad the last time?). Lemongrab 2 is given zero credit for his part liberating his people, making his sacrifice almost pointless, and then when PB offers Lemonhope a place in the castle the selfish yellow bastard decides to walk off and put his own needs above everyone elses. And then PB sings a song about just how great Lemonhope is, while we're treated to the grim sight of a desolated Land of Ooo. What a... charming ending. Christ... writers, please never do another Lemongrab episode, because all you do is lay down more UnfortunateImplications on top of the previous ones.

* [=tordles=]: The whole Lemongrab arc really had me starting worry Adventure Time was straying from the whole "progressive cartoon" track, but "Breezy" was just... a completely unlikeable episode for me. The majority of the plot wasn't as awful as it could have been, I guess, but the level of importance the writers continue to place on Finn's apparent need for romance, even though it's been established time and time again that he seems to either move on from his past flings or save romance for a later period in his life, is just starting to get ridiculous. What's the point of having Finn get so obsessed with having a girlfriend? And worse, how are we supposed to sympathize with him when his first response to feeling empty and disappointed about his dad is to go out and start macking on every princess in sight? Are we expected to sympathize with his blatant disrespect of all these girls while he takes advantage of their feelings? Because, personally, I just felt irritated by him. Having Finn behave this way is rude to the female characters, and disrespectful to Finn's character development, especially in terms of his view on romance. But no, they just can't let him learn his lesson, and seem to include "Breezy", who is also using Finn to get to his flower, simply to make his actions appear to be a little less reprehensible. And frankly, I'm not even going to get started on the whole [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale LSP making a move on Finn, pushing him despite his discomfort, and then having him come around and make the whole thing seem okay despite Finn's lack of consent, all because Finn is a boy.]] For the same show that gave us the wonderful message of not backing down when it comes to people making you uncomfortable in "Lady and Peebles", it's downright ''backwards''. But the worst part by far, for me, was Finn getting his arm back. They could have explored so many new possibilities with a million different innovative, magical, fantastical prosthetics he could have received, not to mention him coming to terms with his disability and totally ''owning'' it (seriously, how many disabled kids out there would be thrilled to be able to relate to FINN of all characters?) but no. They had to go running back to the StatusQuo with their tails between their legs. I just expect so much better from this show after all the leaps and bounds it's made in terms of being an adult, emotional program that, above all, teaches us wonderful lessons and holds good values in such high regard.

* {{@/DeepC}}: The ending to the ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' episode, "Wizard Battle". Now I absolutely love this series with a passion and the beginning and middle of this episode weren't all that bad. Now why do I loathe the ending so much? Well allow me to explain the beginning first. The whole episode starts of with Finn and Jake watching a battle amongst wizards. Everything is going great for them until they see the Ice King cheating so he could win the grand prize, which is a kiss on the lips from Princess Bubblegum. This motivates Finn to enter the Wizard Battle disguised as a wizard, stop the Ice King, and kiss Princess Bubblegum. While they fight, they come across a mediocre wizard named Abracadaniel, who wanted to fight, but does not want to kiss Princess Bubblegum. So Finn decides to help him win in order to save Princess Bubblegum. As the battle progresses, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Abracadaniel gets even better with his magic and manages to defeat the Ice King]]. Now this sounds all fine and dandy, correct? Well here comes the Dethroning Moment of Suck; when Abracadaniel and Finn are the only ones left, Finn forfeits immediately, which meant that Abracadaniel won. With his newly developed confidence, Abracadaniel decides that he does want to kiss Princes Bubblegum after all. However, due to the "Power Of Love", Finn goes batshit crazy and screeches at Abracadaniel in a way that can be considered {{OOC}}, immature, and downright mean. This causes [[TheWoobie Abracadaniel]] to fall over, and even though it appears that the announcer is about to call him out for that, [[DarthWiki/{{Wallbanger}} Finn still wins]]! Later, Finn is stressed out about hiding his feelings; now, it's understandable that you're stressed about hiding your feelings, [[DesignatedHero but what about having regrets for the way you screamed at Abracadaniel, pulverized his new-found confidence, and hurt his feelings?!]] Later, Finn reveals who he is in front of Princess Bubblegum. Now does he get any sort of scolding or punishment from this? Well, he does get a slap on the face for cheating, but he still wins the prize of getting a kiss from Princess Bubblegum! Not only did Finn cheat, but he acted like a {{Jerkass}} and started staggering near MarySue territory.

** Tropers/FAS1997: It was this episode that I consider the Dethroning Moment of Adventure Time due to the cruelty in it. I hated how Lemongrab went from funny to a FatBastard. He became such a different character in two years. I can agree what the other are saying. Not one scene was memorable and I think this episode is forgettable. I'd rather watch RegularShow Laundry Woes than this. Lemongrab is truly unacceptable with the behavior he did in this episode and Lemonhope.

** [=FromtheWordsofBR=]: Not to mention, just like what WebVideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter said about "[[SpongeBobSquarePants House Fancy]]", if you don't care about how much of a [[JerkSue Jerk]] [[MartyStu Stu]] Lemonhope is in this episode nor everything else Asger said about it, then it's just boring! Very, very, boring! I'm not joking, a show that has been able to turn simple, mundane plots into fun 11-minute episodes actually has made an episode that almost literally put me to sleep. What happened, writers? There's JumpingTheShark, and then... there's this.

* Tropers/{{honkgamzeehonk}}: Sad Face, not because it is a bad episode, but it has hardly any main characters except for a sleeping Jake's tail and a bunch of one-episode wonder bugs. This episode should have been used for something like the [[spoiler:[[OffscreenMomentofAwesome Fire Kingdom coup]] ]], not pointless {{Filler}}.

** [=Izzy1=]: I agree, this episode was pretty underwhelming. Finn's dad is an unlikeable prick who couldn't give less of a [[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] about Finn, Finn lost his arm (which was foreshadowed) and sword, Prismo is dead, and the way Finn got rid of the Lich was pretty predictable (I didn't expect him to turn into a giant baby though). Also, why didn't the blood of the guardian bring back Finn's arm? Did it have to be dry bones in order for it to work?

* {{regularshowman}}: For me, the DMOS in this show is in the episode "Nemisis". Not only was this yet another episode completely lacking any Finn and Jake (seriously is anyone else getting sick of that?), not only were this episode's main cast people I didn't give a crap about, but this episode proved to me that Adventure Time was getting stale. This episode was trying way too hard to be weird and zany at times with nemesis himself driving his kids around in a minivan (Get it? He's supposed to be a badass but he drives his kids around in a minivan with his kids like a normal parent! Hur de dur hur!) which is stupid. That and it was trying way too hard to be cool. Which it isn't. Oh, and what the fuck was up with that ending? Oh and the aforementioned lack of Finn and Jake for, what? The third episode now! As well as them being substituted for boring characters who I don't give a crap about just killed this tired and boring episode for me.

* Tropers/{{Mario123311}}: I haven't watched AT in a very long time now to be brutally honest, But I know I'm probably gonna piss A LOT of people off by saying this: Finn and PB's whole "breakup" really ruined it for me honestly. Basically I felt like these 2 were a perfect fit for each other and what ends up happening is "Lolnope". Needless to say I was not happy and I honestly haven't watched since that happened.

** Loekman3: What frustrates me about it is that The Lich, for all his presentation as TheDreaded and the KnightOfCerebus for Adventure Time, isn't anymore threatening or impactful as any other villain not because of his lack of screen time or the fact that his impact on the world is bare minimum, its because of the fact that the short episodic format along with the creator's insistence that StatusQuoIsGod means that The Lich, not matter how deadly or vile villain he can be, he could only do so much in an 11-minute short compared to say, half-an hour episode meaning that at the slightest hint that The Lich managed to break free, he is immediately defeated (The sweater, Ice King, Jake's wish, and the guardian blood). [[FridgeLogic Why everyone in Ooo is afraid of him I have no idea]]. Any fan fiction writer could have turn him into the intimidating and ruthless villain that is envisioned better than the creators themselves, I am not fucking kidding.