History Determinator / VideoGames

26th Mar '17 2:43:03 PM nombretomado
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* The Nemesis of VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Nemesis fame should be the poster boy of this trope. It's a massive 8 foot tall B.O.W. that's programmed to kill all the members of S.T.A.R.S. after killing Brad right in front of you, it sets it's sights on Jill: The character who you play as, AND who happens to be the last member of S.T.A.R.S. No matter how far you run, or how many times you actually manage to put him down (About 15 shotgun shells on EASY will do the trick), he'll be back. Often with a ROCKET LAUNCHER. Did I mention it can run FASTER than you? Or that it's SMART?
** T-101 from VideoGame/ResidentEvil2 also counts. While not nearly as memorable as the Nemesis (You only encounter him in a NewGamePlus), he's every bit as unstoppable. Even dropping him in a vat of molten steel only manages to piss him off, as well as burn off the coat that was stopping him from going OneWingedAngel.
** VideoGame/ResidentEvil6 gives us the Ustanak: a Nemesis Expy that haunts Sherry and Jake throughout their entire chapter. Like the T-101, dropping him in lava is only enough to seriously piss him off (And reveal his weak point, thankfully).
* In {{Okami}}, Waka shows just how determined he can be just shortly after revealing he was GoodAllAlong. First, he tries to fight Yami, until he loses his laser sword Pillow Talk.Then when Yami starts dishing out DeathRays aimed at Ammy, he blocks them with his regular sword. And even once he is completely disarmed, he still stands in front of ammy to take one last attack for her.

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* The Nemesis of VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Nemesis ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Nemesis'' fame should be the poster boy of this trope. It's a massive 8 foot tall B.O.W. that's programmed to kill all the members of S.T.A.R.S. after killing Brad right in front of you, it sets it's sights on Jill: The character who you play as, AND who happens to be the last member of S.T.A.R.S. No matter how far you run, or how many times you actually manage to put him down (About 15 shotgun shells on EASY will do the trick), he'll be back. Often with a ROCKET LAUNCHER. Did I mention it can run FASTER than you? Or that it's SMART?
** T-101 from VideoGame/ResidentEvil2 ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil2'' also counts. While not nearly as memorable as the Nemesis (You only encounter him in a NewGamePlus), he's every bit as unstoppable. Even dropping him in a vat of molten steel only manages to piss him off, as well as burn off the coat that was stopping him from going OneWingedAngel.
** VideoGame/ResidentEvil6 ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'' gives us the Ustanak: a Nemesis Expy that haunts Sherry and Jake throughout their entire chapter. Like the T-101, dropping him in lava is only enough to seriously piss him off (And reveal his weak point, thankfully).
* In {{Okami}}, ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'', Waka shows just how determined he can be just shortly after revealing he was GoodAllAlong. First, he tries to fight Yami, until he loses his laser sword Pillow Talk.Then when Yami starts dishing out DeathRays aimed at Ammy, he blocks them with his regular sword. And even once he is completely disarmed, he still stands in front of ammy to take one last attack for her.
14th Mar '17 4:36:57 AM NNinja
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* Phoenix Wright in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. No matter how much the odds are stacked against him, Phoenix refuses to give up and if he is on the verge of doing so, he'll meet someone who will convince him otherwise. On the same token, except for [[ButtMonkey Winston Payne]], almost every prosecutor and witness refuses to give in, no matter how much evidence and logic the defense throws at them.
** One could arguably give this title to Dahlia Hawthorne, given that [[spoiler: she won't even let death stop her from seeking her revenge on Mia Fey.]]
** The villain you confront in the final case of ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth''. [[spoiler: Quercus Alba, an ambassador, is the kingpin of a smuggling ring and has ties with the KG-8 incident and its second occurance (case 4). Edgeworth tries to prove that Alba was the one who killed Manny Coachen, but no matter how much logic and evidence Edgeworth throws his way, Alba never gives in and keeps demanding more proof. The entire last half of the case is devoted to just cross examining Alba until he finally cracks.]]
*** Completing the last half of [[ThatOneBoss that fucking case]] is also an example of ''the player'' being a {{Determinator}}.
** Manfred von Karma needs ''more'' recognition than that. [[spoiler: He took a bullet wound to the shoulder, and left it. He was afraid that if a doctor got to it, that doctor would one day testify against him. All of this so he could get his revenge on the Edgeworth family.]] And also, he ''retrained a parrot.'' Just in case someone would be daring enough to have it testify.
14th Feb '17 9:10:30 AM infernape612
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** [[HeroAntagonist Undyne]], leader of the royal guard, staunchly refuses to die if you kill her. [[spoiler:She still dies... [[CameBackStrong unless you're doing a genocide run]]]] In fact, she's the only monster you cannot spare, because she's so determined to kill you that she'll fight to the death. [[spoiler:To let her live, you have to run instead.]] Notably, [[spoiler: Undyne is the ''only'' Monster that's able to produce her own determination through sheer force of will. It's how she becomes "Undyne the Undying", that said she'll eventually start melting just like any other Monster filled with determination because their bodies aren't physical matter and thus, can't handle it.]]

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** [[HeroAntagonist Undyne]], leader of the royal guard, staunchly refuses to die if you kill her. [[spoiler:She still dies... [[CameBackStrong unless you're doing a genocide run]]]] run]].]] In fact, she's the only monster you cannot spare, because she's so determined to kill you that she'll fight to the death. [[spoiler:To let her live, you have to run instead.]] Notably, [[spoiler: Undyne is the ''only'' Monster monster that's able to produce her own determination through sheer force of will. It's how she becomes "Undyne the Undying", that said she'll eventually start melting just like any other Monster filled with determination because their bodies aren't physical matter and thus, can't handle it.]]
7th Jan '17 3:53:21 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* [[BadAss Ha]][[AnimatedArmor ku]][[GoodIsNotNice men]] from ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' spent ninety years of utter isolation in the [[EldritchLocation Boundary]] - the same place that drove Lotte Carmine mad and turned him into the EldritchAbomination we know as Arakune - and retained his sanity through sheer force of will.
** In a similar vein, [[MsFanservice Ma]][[ActionGirl ko]][[BadassNormal to]] was able to go through the Boundary ''twice'' and emerged with no physical or psychological damage both times, all through HeroicWillpower and [[ThePowerOfFriendship her loyalty to Noel and Tsubaki]]. Having such a cheery and compassionate personality considering her [[DarkAndTroubledPast sucktastic]] [[FantasticRacism childhood]] ''requires exactly that''.
** [[{{Jerkass}} Jin]] [[AnIcePerson Kisa]][[VillainProtagonist ragi]] in his Story Mode is a definite example, where he fights several ludicrously powerful people and holds his own despite being badly injured. [[spoiler:[[FridgeBrilliance Considering Hakumen is his extracontinuual incarnation]], it makes perfect sense.]]
** Also [[HospitalHottie Litchi]] [[MsFanservice Faye-Ling]]. There's nothing stopping her from attempting to find the cure both for Arakune and her, be it the Boundary's memory erosion, nearly everyone else's suggestions that it's a lost cause or even [[ForcedIntoEvil desperate decisions to join Team Evil.]] This is also probably why similar to Makoto and Hakumen, she didn't devolve into a puddle yet (though she's only getting slow symptoms simply by being a mere human).

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* [[BadAss Ha]][[AnimatedArmor ku]][[GoodIsNotNice men]] Hakumen from ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' spent ninety years of utter isolation in the [[EldritchLocation Boundary]] - the same place that drove Lotte Carmine mad and turned him into the EldritchAbomination we know as Arakune - and retained his sanity through sheer force of will.
** In a similar vein, [[MsFanservice Ma]][[ActionGirl ko]][[BadassNormal to]] Makoto was able to go through the Boundary ''twice'' and emerged with no physical or psychological damage both times, all through HeroicWillpower and [[ThePowerOfFriendship her loyalty to Noel and Tsubaki]]. Having such a cheery and compassionate personality considering her [[DarkAndTroubledPast sucktastic]] [[FantasticRacism sucktastic childhood]] ''requires exactly that''.
** [[{{Jerkass}} Jin]] [[AnIcePerson Kisa]][[VillainProtagonist ragi]] Jin Kisaragi in his Story Mode is a definite example, where he fights several ludicrously powerful people and holds his own despite being badly injured. [[spoiler:[[FridgeBrilliance Considering Hakumen is his extracontinuual incarnation]], it makes perfect sense.]]
** Also [[HospitalHottie Litchi]] [[MsFanservice Litchi Faye-Ling]]. There's nothing stopping her from attempting to find the cure both for Arakune and her, be it the Boundary's memory erosion, nearly everyone else's suggestions that it's a lost cause or even [[ForcedIntoEvil desperate decisions to join Team Evil.]] This is also probably why similar to Makoto and Hakumen, she didn't devolve into a puddle yet (though she's only getting slow symptoms simply by being a mere human).
3rd Jan '17 5:23:28 PM Wyldchyld
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** Tela Vasir of the "Shadow Broker" DLC is this in spades, [[spoiler: She takes on Shepard tackling her out of a 4+ story building, survives massive car crash, loses tons of blood, and still has enough in her to be one of the toughest (if not the toughest) boss fights in the series.]] BadAss.

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** Tela Vasir of the "Shadow Broker" DLC is this in spades, [[spoiler: She takes on Shepard tackling her out of a 4+ story building, survives massive car crash, loses tons of blood, and still has enough in her to be one of the toughest (if not the toughest) boss fights in the series.]] BadAss.Badass.
21st Dec '16 2:48:04 PM Morgenthaler
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* Kratos of the ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' series. He's literally ''[[EscapedFromHell climbed out of Hell]]... four times''. As he puts it: "If all of Olympus would deny me my vengeance, then all of Olympus must ''die''!" The fact that his only clear motivation is the desire to kick the ass of anyone who screws with him just solidifies his status as an undiluted BadAss.

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* Kratos of the ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' series. He's literally ''[[EscapedFromHell climbed out of Hell]]... four times''. As he puts it: "If all of Olympus would deny me my vengeance, then all of Olympus must ''die''!" The fact that his only clear motivation is the desire to kick the ass of anyone who screws with him just solidifies his status as an undiluted BadAss.badass.



** Squall's status as a {{Determinator}} is taken even higher in ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'', where his stubborness and determination are what keeps him going the most, forging his own path to end the conflict. He stubbornly refuses to work with anyone else, but also refuses to say why. Ultimecia believes it's because he can't trust people, but when he reveals that he trusts his friends completely, ''but would rather endanger himself to draw more enemies to him and save them the effort required'', he quickly adds BadAss to the mix: he's ''trying'' to appear weak so he can destroy the enemies who think he's an easy target, ''so they won't go after his friends''.

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** Squall's status as a {{Determinator}} is taken even higher in ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'', where his stubborness and determination are what keeps him going the most, forging his own path to end the conflict. He stubbornly refuses to work with anyone else, but also refuses to say why. Ultimecia believes it's because he can't trust people, but when he reveals that he trusts his friends completely, ''but would rather endanger himself to draw more enemies to him and save them the effort required'', he quickly adds BadAss badass to the mix: he's ''trying'' to appear weak so he can destroy the enemies who think he's an easy target, ''so they won't go after his friends''.
21st Dec '16 10:01:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* Apparently, in ''VisualNovel/PrincessWaltz'', {{Badass}} and {{Determinator}} go hand in hand. This is even {{lampshaded}}.

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* Apparently, in ''VisualNovel/PrincessWaltz'', {{Badass}} badass and {{Determinator}} go hand in hand. This is even {{lampshaded}}.



*** There's a point where he crawled through what's essentially a giant microwaved hallway, even if you lost all your health/psyche points, [[{{Badass}} he will still crawl out]]... ''by his fingertips!''

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*** There's a point where he crawled through what's essentially a giant microwaved hallway, even if you lost all your health/psyche points, [[{{Badass}} he will still crawl out]]...out... ''by his fingertips!''



** Shepard, after being sedated for two days, manages to wake up [[OhCrap to the shock of the people keeping him sedated.]] What does s/he then do? [[{{Badass}} S/he punches out both guards in]] [[CurbStompBattle the room and then proceeds to tear]] [[OneManArmy through an entire facility of elite assault troopers by himself.]]

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** Shepard, after being sedated for two days, manages to wake up [[OhCrap to the shock of the people keeping him sedated.]] What does s/he then do? [[{{Badass}} S/he punches out both guards in]] in [[CurbStompBattle the room and then proceeds to tear]] [[OneManArmy through an entire facility of elite assault troopers by himself.]]



*** ''Guild Wars 2'' takes place hundreds of years after ''Guild Wars''. When playing from the Charr perspective, your first enemies are -- of all people -- [[spoiler:the Duke's elite guards ''in ghost form''.]] And their boss? [[spoiler:''Duke Barradin's ghost''.]] It takes a sizable force of [=NPCs=] and players to take him down. Even after you destroy his ghost, he possesses a giant statue, ''and then it's ROUND TWO''. And when you manage to destroy that, ''IT'S ONLY TEMPORARY''. The Charr leaders say he'll just reform in a few weeks and attack again. He's long dead and hundreds of years have passed, but he clearly won't let minor details like that stand in the way of him defending his homeland from invaders. The man is a {{Badass}} {{Determinator}} in every sense of the word.

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*** ''Guild Wars 2'' takes place hundreds of years after ''Guild Wars''. When playing from the Charr perspective, your first enemies are -- of all people -- [[spoiler:the Duke's elite guards ''in ghost form''.]] And their boss? [[spoiler:''Duke Barradin's ghost''.]] It takes a sizable force of [=NPCs=] and players to take him down. Even after you destroy his ghost, he possesses a giant statue, ''and then it's ROUND TWO''. And when you manage to destroy that, ''IT'S ONLY TEMPORARY''. The Charr leaders say he'll just reform in a few weeks and attack again. He's long dead and hundreds of years have passed, but he clearly won't let minor details like that stand in the way of him defending his homeland from invaders. The man is a {{Badass}} badass {{Determinator}} in every sense of the word.
12th Nov '16 1:22:06 PM nombretomado
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** Galuf from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' does it too. Exdeath has the party held down with the Crystals, and when Galuf's granddaughter Krile [[BigDamnHeroes swoops in and interrupts Exdeath]] ''yet again,'' he traps her in a ''[[JohnnyCash burning ring]] [[IncrediblyLamePun of fire]]'' and slams her across the room a few times. All seems lost... [[spoiler:until Galuf gets up, powers through the Crystal's force beam despite the fact that he'll make it shatter in doing so, goes into the ring of flame to rescue Krile, then, while [[TurnsRed aflame in more ways than one,]] charges at Exdeath and starts to [[TakingYouWithMe go out fighting.]] Galuf's HP slowly decreases throughout the battle, but [[NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow he won't stop kicking even at 0]] - not even after ''[[NoOneCouldSurviveThat being hit with successive use of]] [[WhyWontYouDie the universe's three most powerful spells.]]'' Once Exdeath is defeated, though, Galuf finally collapses, and [[DeaderThanDead all the items and magic in the world won't bring him back.]]]]

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** Galuf from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' does it too. Exdeath has the party held down with the Crystals, and when Galuf's granddaughter Krile [[BigDamnHeroes swoops in and interrupts Exdeath]] ''yet again,'' he traps her in a ''[[JohnnyCash ''[[Music/JohnnyCash burning ring]] [[IncrediblyLamePun of fire]]'' and slams her across the room a few times. All seems lost... [[spoiler:until Galuf gets up, powers through the Crystal's force beam despite the fact that he'll make it shatter in doing so, goes into the ring of flame to rescue Krile, then, while [[TurnsRed aflame in more ways than one,]] charges at Exdeath and starts to [[TakingYouWithMe go out fighting.]] Galuf's HP slowly decreases throughout the battle, but [[NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow he won't stop kicking even at 0]] - not even after ''[[NoOneCouldSurviveThat being hit with successive use of]] [[WhyWontYouDie the universe's three most powerful spells.]]'' Once Exdeath is defeated, though, Galuf finally collapses, and [[DeaderThanDead all the items and magic in the world won't bring him back.]]]]
17th Oct '16 1:15:44 AM Dravencour
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* This character archetype gets {{deconstructed|CharacterArchetype}} in ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine''. Captain Walker's single-minded drive to continue his mission is the reason that [[spoiler:a civilian refugee camp gets horrifically massacred with white phosphorus, the better part of the 33rd Infantry gets killed, both of his squadmates Lugo and Adams wind up dead, and the city of Dubai is condemned to death by dehydration due to the water supply getting destroyed]]. This isn't helped by [[spoiler:Walker going insane with intense self-loathing and a need to blame anybody and anything other than himself for things getting worse]]. Sometimes when people tell you to stop, it's better if you actually listen.

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* This character archetype gets {{deconstructed|CharacterArchetype}} in ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine''. Captain Walker's single-minded drive to continue his mission is the reason that [[spoiler:a civilian refugee camp gets horrifically massacred with white phosphorus, the better part of the 33rd Infantry gets killed, both of his squadmates Lugo and Adams wind up dead, and the city of Dubai is condemned to death by dehydration due to the water supply getting destroyed]]. This isn't helped by [[spoiler:Walker going insane with intense self-loathing and a need to blame anybody and anything other than himself for things getting worse]].worse, to the point of ''creating his own BigBad'']]. Sometimes when people tell you to stop, it's better if you actually listen.
17th Oct '16 1:13:13 AM Dravencour
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* This character archetype gets {{deconstructed|CharacterArchetype}} in ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine''. Captain Walker's single-minded drive to continue his mission is the reason that [[spoiler:a civilian refugee camp gets horrifically massacred with white phosphorus, the better part of the 33rd Infantry gets killed, both of his squadmates Lugo and Adams wind up dead, and the city of Dubai is condemned to death by dehydration due to the water supply getting destroyed]]. This isn't helped by [[spoiler:Walker going insane with intense self-loathing and a need to blame anybody and anything other than himself for things getting worse]]. Sometimes when people tell you to stop, it's better if you actually listen.
-->'''Konrad:''' None of this would have happened if you had just ''stopped.''
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