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9th Jan '17 1:36:44 AM SeptimusHeap
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A work that wraps around the awfulness scale to [[SoBadItsGood good]] and keeps going all the way back down, down, down until it's even more awful than the average victim of SturgeonsLaw. These works don't attract proper fandoms and aren't enjoyed in themselves they have neither the good points of a good work or GuiltyPleasure nor the charm of a SoBadItsGood work; they simply draw attention out of a [[BileFascination perverse sense of fascination]]. The French term for these works is "navet" ("radish" in English), a nod to how the vegetable of the same name tastes when overcooked (really bad; there is literally no amount of salt or sugar that can save it from being crap). Not to be confused with [[SoBadItsGood "nanar"]].

If you [[BileFascination plan to seek out these works]], note that prolonged exposure can cause wooziness, [[MadeMyselfSad sadness]], [[SanitySlippage weakening of one's grasp on reality]], and banging your head against the wall repeatedly.

Works this bad are found in nearly all media, but the basic "[[BileFascination I can't watch, but I can't look away]]" properties are constant enough for them to be united under one name. For all intents and purposes, such strokes of anti-genius are unique the way they fit together (or fall apart) can't be reproduced. Moreover, if it's impossible to imagine a parody of it, it ''probably'' counts.

From another perspective, consider a possible [[BrokeTheRatingScale negative value on the classic "5-star" scale]] ([[Website/SomethingAwful and there's a film website which does exactly that]]). The farther away the work in question scores from zero, [[SoBadItsGood in either]] [[BileFascination direction]], the more entertaining it is to watch. The closer to zero it is, the more it tends towards this Trope.

Horrible works can have [[SnarkBait enjoyable reviews]], as they allow a reviewer to exercise his/her writing skills to the fullest. If the reviews are uniformly more entertaining than the work, then the work is almost certainly horrible. ''Occasionally'', you'll see one (or miraculously two) slices of HamAndCheese to enjoy. Some, but not necessarily all examples of this Trope can be {{MST}}ed well.

While these works may insult their respective forms of media, they serve an essential purpose [[Literature/{{Discworld}} after all, without the "0", a perfect "10" would have little meaning]].

The "really bad" stuff has been broken down by medium. Please remember to add only ''outstanding'' examples of suckitude to each of the individual categories. '''Just because you and some people you know don't like it doesn't mean it's Horrible.''' This is not the same as Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, since popular series are by their very nature excluded from this Trope; see HypeBacklash instead. Likewise, don't remove something from the lists unless you and several people you know think it's pretty good.

Here are some guidelines to help:
* The work has been panned by multiple reputable critics.
* [[BoxOfficeBomb The work has mediocre sales and/or a relatively small audience.]]
* The work has been parodied for its faults by multiple different sources.

Also, keep in mind that just like any good work has to stand the test of time for its quality, so does a bad work. Sometimes the work could be incredibly [[DeadArtistsAreBetter misunderstood at the time of its release.]] It might be SoBadItsGood, with the capability to grow on people. Contrarily, in ''very'' rare instances, a work might've actually gotten [[SoOkayItsAverage decent or, at least, middling reviews]] upon release, only to be retrospectively panned into oblivion[[note]]This usually happens when a retrospectively horrible work was part of an at-the-time exciting new medium, resulting in more lenient initial criticism than it probably deserved.[[/note]]. So when adding things, don't just rely on reviews and opinions from the time the work was released. Try to find some modern opinions on it as well; you might find that the work actually ''does'' have a fanbase.

Also, '''please don't start Administrivia/{{edit war}}s'''. If somebody challenges a claim, don't try to pull the "it's only you" crap. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Civility isn't something]] DarthWiki [[EvenEvilHasStandards allows a pass on]], especially since too much bile got this page redlinked in the past. If you want to debate whether or not a work belongs here and why, do it in discussion.

Contrast SugarWiki/SoCoolItsAwesome and SoBadItsGood, although this and the latter trope tend to overlap ''a lot''. Compare MuseAbuse, which may occur both on this side of qualifying for actual artistic talent and its extreme opposite. See also SuckinessIsPainful, when fiction treats these works as ''actually'' being dangerous. If one episode or part of a work is this or simply polarizing, see DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck. Most film examples are also {{Box Office Bomb}}s, though not all Box Office Bombs are horrible, nor are all box office successes good (they can be helped by MisaimedMarketing and NeverTrustATrailer). When this happens to an installment in a franchise that's normally much better, it's usually a very good sign that said franchise is stuck neck-deep in a DorkAge. For instances of bad programming and the horrors of DRM, see DarthWiki/IdiotProgramming. For those things with wheels that barely qualify as "vehicles", see the [[TheAllegedCar/RealLife Real Life subpage]] of TheAllegedCar. For theme parks and carnivals you most certainly don't want to go to, see the Real Life folder of CrappyCarnival.

'''''Important Notes''''':

# Merely being offensive in its subject matter isn't enough to justify a work as Horrible. Hard as it is to imagine at times, there's a market for all types of deviancy (no matter how small a niche it is). It has to ''fail to appeal even to that niche'' to qualify here.

# '''''Absolutely no fanfics at all''' are permitted on these pages'' unless it relates to the accompanying example at hand.

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A work that wraps around So Bad, It's Horrible are the awfulness scale to [[SoBadItsGood good]] and keeps going all the way back down, down, down until it's even more awful than the average victim of SturgeonsLaw. These works don't attract proper fandoms and aren't enjoyed in themselves they have neither the good points of a good work or GuiltyPleasure nor the charm of a SoBadItsGood work; they simply draw attention out of a [[BileFascination perverse sense of fascination]]. The French term for these works is "navet" ("radish" in English), a nod to how the vegetable of the same name tastes when overcooked (really bad; there is literally no amount of salt or sugar that can save it from being crap). Not to be confused with [[SoBadItsGood "nanar"]].

If you [[BileFascination plan to seek out these works]], note that prolonged exposure can cause wooziness, [[MadeMyselfSad sadness]], [[SanitySlippage weakening of one's grasp on reality]], and banging your head against
the wall repeatedly.

Works this bad are found in nearly all media, but the basic "[[BileFascination I can't watch, but I can't look away]]" properties are constant enough for them to be united under one name. For all intents and purposes, such strokes
lowest writing quality of anti-genius are unique the way they fit together (or fall apart) can't be reproduced. Moreover, if it's impossible to imagine a parody of it, it ''probably'' counts.

From another perspective, consider a possible [[BrokeTheRatingScale negative value on the classic "5-star" scale]] ([[Website/SomethingAwful and there's a film website
all; those which does exactly that]]). The farther away gain no genuine audience whatsoever. Trying to give them a quality rating is like trying to measure the depth of a black hole: It has none.

Or anyhow, that's how all people who read/watch/play/etc.
the work in question scores from zero, [[SoBadItsGood in either]] [[BileFascination direction]], have perceived it as. The work is absolutely terrible, and not just because of [[UnfortunateImplications unfortunate]] or otherwise offensive content. No [[FairForItsDay past]] or [[VindicatedByHistory present]] positive opinions can be found about the more entertaining work, nor does it is to watch. The closer to zero it is, the more it tends towards this Trope.

Horrible
contain GuiltyPleasures or anything SoBadItsGood.

Such
works can have [[SnarkBait enjoyable reviews]], be recognized by the following:
* The work
as they allow a reviewer to exercise his/her whole is truly terrible by the standard of the medium involved, with a low quality in all aspects of work creation: storytelling, drawing, writing skills to the fullest. If the reviews are uniformly more entertaining than the work, then the work is almost certainly horrible. ''Occasionally'', you'll see one (or miraculously two) slices of HamAndCheese to enjoy. Some, but not necessarily all examples of this Trope can be {{MST}}ed well.

While these works may insult their respective forms of media, they serve an essential purpose [[Literature/{{Discworld}} after all, without the "0", a perfect "10" would have little meaning]].

The "really bad" stuff has been broken down by medium. Please remember to add only ''outstanding'' examples of suckitude to each of the individual categories. '''Just because you
and some people you know don't like it doesn't mean it's Horrible.''' This is not the same as Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, since popular series are by their very nature excluded from this Trope; see HypeBacklash instead. Likewise, don't remove something from the lists unless you and several people you know think it's pretty good.

Here are some guidelines to help:
so on.
* The work has a small audience, and if it's produced for profit it has [[BoxOfficeBomb poor sales]].
* They have
been panned by multiple reputable critics.
* [[BoxOfficeBomb
critics for their low quality. The work has mediocre sales and/or a relatively small audience.]]
* The work has been
work's flaws may be parodied for its faults by multiple different sources.

Also, keep
a number of other works, and in mind that just like any good work has to stand the test of time for its quality, so does a bad work. Sometimes some cases the work could may even become a pop culture-level SnarkBait.

Some RealLife examples can
be incredibly [[DeadArtistsAreBetter misunderstood at the time of its release.]] It might be SoBadItsGood, with the capability to grow found on people. Contrarily, in ''very'' rare instances, a work might've actually gotten [[SoOkayItsAverage decent or, at least, middling reviews]] upon release, only to be retrospectively panned into oblivion[[note]]This usually happens when a retrospectively horrible work was part of an at-the-time exciting new medium, resulting in more lenient initial criticism than it probably deserved.[[/note]]. So when adding things, DarthWiki/IdiotProgramming and TheAllegedCar.RealLife. Popular works, [[StylisticSuck deliberately badly done works]] and individual episodes and chapters don't just rely on reviews and opinions from the time the work was released. Try to find some modern opinions on it as well; you might find that the work actually ''does'' have a fanbase.

Also, '''please don't start Administrivia/{{edit war}}s'''. If somebody challenges a claim, don't try to pull the "it's only you" crap. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Civility isn't something]] DarthWiki [[EvenEvilHasStandards allows a pass on]], especially since too much bile got this page redlinked in the past. If you want to debate whether or not a work belongs here and why, do it in discussion.

Contrast SugarWiki/SoCoolItsAwesome and SoBadItsGood, although this and the latter trope tend to overlap ''a lot''. Compare MuseAbuse, which may occur both on this side of qualifying for actual artistic talent and its extreme opposite. See also SuckinessIsPainful, when fiction treats these works as ''actually'' being dangerous. If one episode or part of a work is this or simply polarizing, see DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck. Most film examples are also {{Box Office Bomb}}s, though not all Box Office Bombs are horrible, nor are all box office successes good (they can be helped by MisaimedMarketing and NeverTrustATrailer). When this happens to an installment in a franchise that's normally much better, it's usually a very good sign that said franchise is stuck neck-deep in a DorkAge. For instances of bad programming and the horrors of DRM, see DarthWiki/IdiotProgramming. For those things with wheels that barely qualify as "vehicles", see the [[TheAllegedCar/RealLife Real Life subpage]] of TheAllegedCar. For theme parks and carnivals you most certainly don't want to go to, see the Real Life folder of CrappyCarnival.

'''''Important Notes''''':

# Merely being offensive in its subject matter isn't enough to justify a work as Horrible. Hard as it is to imagine at times, there's a market for all types of deviancy (no matter how small a niche it is). It has to ''fail to appeal even to that niche'' to qualify here.

# '''''Absolutely no fanfics at all''' are permitted on these pages'' unless it relates to the accompanying example at hand.
belong here.
3rd Jan '17 5:11:14 PM JudgeSpear
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If you [[BileFascination plan to seek out these works]], note that prolonged exposure can cause wooziness, [[MadeMyselfSad depression]], [[SanitySlippage weakening of one's grasp on reality]], and banging your head against the wall repeatedly.

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If you [[BileFascination plan to seek out these works]], note that prolonged exposure can cause wooziness, [[MadeMyselfSad depression]], sadness]], [[SanitySlippage weakening of one's grasp on reality]], and banging your head against the wall repeatedly.
29th Nov '16 4:09:07 PM N1KF
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