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29th May '16 5:26:13 AM Doug86
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''Marvel 1602'' was an {{Elseworld}} miniseries written by Creator/NeilGaiman, transporting the MarvelUniverse into the Elizabethan Era. It took heroes such as Comicbook/NickFury, [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} The X-Men]], Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}, ComicBook/DoctorStrange and ComicBook/SpiderMan and found a way to make them work in the period and tell an original tale centering upon them.

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''Marvel 1602'' was an {{Elseworld}} miniseries written by Creator/NeilGaiman, transporting the MarvelUniverse into the Elizabethan Era. It took heroes such as Comicbook/NickFury, [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} [[ComicBook/XMen The X-Men]], Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}, ComicBook/DoctorStrange and ComicBook/SpiderMan and found a way to make them work in the period and tell an original tale centering upon them.
29th Dec '15 6:10:41 AM Anddrix
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** [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Count Otto Von Doom]] is defined almost entirely by his narcissism and lust for power, while his characterization largely de-emphasizes the intellectual egotism and lust for knowledge that has so long defined the character. Notably, this version of Doom doesn't seem to have known Richard Reed prior to the latter's transformation, largely removing [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou the personal element in their long-standing feud]]. The story does feature a scene in which the handsome Doom is horrifically scarred through an ill-advised experiment that Reed urges him not to perform, bringing it more into line with the standard depiction of their relationship. Doom is also depicted in this universe as an alchemist, reflecting both the 616 Doom's use of magic as well as science and his scientific rivalry / inferiority to Reed.

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** [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Count Otto Von Doom]] Doom is defined almost entirely by his narcissism and lust for power, while his characterization largely de-emphasizes the intellectual egotism and lust for knowledge that has so long defined the character. Notably, this version of Doom doesn't seem to have known Richard Reed prior to the latter's transformation, largely removing [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou the personal element in their long-standing feud]]. The story does feature a scene in which the handsome Doom is horrifically scarred through an ill-advised experiment that Reed urges him not to perform, bringing it more into line with the standard depiction of their relationship. Doom is also depicted in this universe as an alchemist, reflecting both the 616 Doom's use of magic as well as science and his scientific rivalry / inferiority to Reed.



* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Versions of ComicBook/DoctorStrange, ComicBook/NickFury, ComicBook/SpiderMan, the ComicBook/XMen, the ComicBook/FantasticFour, SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, ComicBook/BlackWidow, ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Thor}}, the ComicBook/{{Hulk}}, ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}, and [[spoiler: the actual ComicBook/CaptainAmerica from the future]] all play major roles in the story, along with several historical figures and original characters. Yes, ''all'' of them; none of them are throwaway characters.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Versions of ComicBook/DoctorStrange, ComicBook/NickFury, ComicBook/SpiderMan, the ComicBook/XMen, the ComicBook/FantasticFour, SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, Doctor Doom, ComicBook/BlackWidow, ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Thor}}, the ComicBook/{{Hulk}}, ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}, and [[spoiler: the actual ComicBook/CaptainAmerica from the future]] all play major roles in the story, along with several historical figures and original characters. Yes, ''all'' of them; none of them are throwaway characters.
17th Nov '15 7:28:42 PM FF32
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** Reed classifies various fields of science using the names of [[KingArthur Knights of the Round Table]] to show they're all equally important. The study of living things is "Lamorackian" (referring to Sir Lamorak, but also Jean-Baptiste Lamarck), the study of particles too small to be seen is "Borssian" (referring to Sir Bors, but also Niels Bohr), and the study of electricity is "Galvanic" (Galvan being a variant spelling for Sir Gawain, but also referring to Luigi Galvani). Though both the terms "electric" and "atomic" are derived from Greek, Reed doesn't use "electric" itself since it was coined after 1602, but he uses "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomy atomy]]" (in the plural, "atomies") which was already in use, as in ''Theater/RomeoAndJuliet''.

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** Reed classifies various fields of science using the names of [[KingArthur Knights of the Round Table]] to show they're all equally important. The study of living things is "Lamorackian" (referring to Sir Lamorak, but also Jean-Baptiste Lamarck), the study of particles too small to be seen is "Borssian" (referring to Sir Bors, but also Niels Bohr), and the study of electricity is "Galvanic" (Galvan being a variant spelling for Sir Gawain, but also referring to Luigi Galvani). Though both the terms "electric" and "atomic" are derived from Greek, Reed doesn't use "electric" itself since it was coined after 1602, but he uses "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomy atomy]]" (in the plural, "atomies") which was already in use, as in ''Theater/RomeoAndJuliet''.''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet''.
18th Oct '15 8:03:06 AM Anddrix
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** [[SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} High Inquisitor Enrique]]'s characterization is largely dominated by the HeWhoFightsMonsters aspect of Erik Lehnsherr's personality, making him come off more as a straight-up KnightTemplar than as the tormented WellIntentionedExtremist known to ComicBook/XMen fans.

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** [[SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} [[ComicBook/{{Magneto}} High Inquisitor Enrique]]'s characterization is largely dominated by the HeWhoFightsMonsters aspect of Erik Lehnsherr's personality, making him come off more as a straight-up KnightTemplar than as the tormented WellIntentionedExtremist known to ComicBook/XMen fans.



* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Versions of ComicBook/DoctorStrange, ComicBook/NickFury, ComicBook/SpiderMan, the ComicBook/XMen, the ComicBook/FantasticFour, SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, ComicBook/BlackWidow, SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Thor}}, the ComicBook/{{Hulk}}, ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}, and [[spoiler: the actual ComicBook/CaptainAmerica from the future]] all play major roles in the story, along with several historical figures and original characters. Yes, ''all'' of them; none of them are throwaway characters.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Versions of ComicBook/DoctorStrange, ComicBook/NickFury, ComicBook/SpiderMan, the ComicBook/XMen, the ComicBook/FantasticFour, SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, ComicBook/BlackWidow, SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Thor}}, the ComicBook/{{Hulk}}, ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}, and [[spoiler: the actual ComicBook/CaptainAmerica from the future]] all play major roles in the story, along with several historical figures and original characters. Yes, ''all'' of them; none of them are throwaway characters.
29th Sep '15 7:50:52 PM msq
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:''1602: Spider-Man'' reveals that in time, history as we know reasserts itself until eventually, nearly everything Rojhaz had done to prevent his BadFuture undone. On the other hand, the serum Pym used with Peter's blood survives long enough until World War 2 be used as the basis for Captain America.]]


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* SheIsAllGrownUp: Peter is shown to have developed feelings (and implied to have more intimate longings) for Virginia Dare [[spoiler:which unfortunately don't last.]]
6th Sep '15 5:40:04 PM nombretomado
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** Also, instead of being able to turn into sand, the Sandman in this continuity is an albino with power over dreams, much like another [[ComicBook/TheSandman Sandman]] from a [[DCComics Different Company]]. It's a bit of an in-joke, considering [[NeilGaiman who wrote the original series]].

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** Also, instead of being able to turn into sand, the Sandman in this continuity is an albino with power over dreams, much like another [[ComicBook/TheSandman Sandman]] from a [[DCComics Different Company]]. It's a bit of an in-joke, considering [[NeilGaiman [[Creator/NeilGaiman who wrote the original series]].
7th Aug '15 1:23:46 AM DoctorNemesis
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** [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Count Otto Von Doom]] is defined almost entirely by his narcissism and lust for power, while his characterization largely de-emphasizes the intellectual egotism and lust for knowledge that has so long defined the character. Notably, this version of Doom doesn't seem to have known Richard Reed prior to the latter's transformation, largely removing [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou the personal element in their long-standing feud]].

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** [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Count Otto Von Doom]] is defined almost entirely by his narcissism and lust for power, while his characterization largely de-emphasizes the intellectual egotism and lust for knowledge that has so long defined the character. Notably, this version of Doom doesn't seem to have known Richard Reed prior to the latter's transformation, largely removing [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou the personal element in their long-standing feud]]. The story does feature a scene in which the handsome Doom is horrifically scarred through an ill-advised experiment that Reed urges him not to perform, bringing it more into line with the standard depiction of their relationship. Doom is also depicted in this universe as an alchemist, reflecting both the 616 Doom's use of magic as well as science and his scientific rivalry / inferiority to Reed.


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* ItWillNeverCatchOn: Doom isn't impressed by Richard Reed's theory that light might have a speed.
7th Aug '15 1:12:24 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Like his 616 counterpart, Richard Reed is also a scientific genius who's mind works on a level that produces theories and inventions that are decades and even centuries ahead of his peers. Which, in 1602, means that he's coming up with things like batteries, clockwork automatons, modern chemistry (which Doom exploits to make what's hinted to be chlorine gas) and what would appear to be the theory of relativity.
-->'''Reed:''' Do you ever wonder, Otto, if light has a speed? If the speed of light through a vacuum were a constant, it would explain so much.
29th Jul '15 4:05:36 PM SparkyYoungUpstart
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2015's ''[[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Secret Wars]]'' event will see further additions to the 1602 universe, with [[ComicBook/YoungAvengers Lady Kate of Bishop]] acting as a RobinHood-type in a ''[[AnthologyComic Secret Wars Journal]]'' story, while [[ComicBook/AngelaMarvelComics Angela]] will get her own ''Witch Hunter Angela'' series, set to also feature 1602 versions of ComicBook/BuckyBarnes and the ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy.

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2015's ''[[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Secret Wars]]'' event will see saw further additions to the 1602 universe, with [[ComicBook/YoungAvengers Lady Kate of Bishop]] acting as a RobinHood-type in a ''[[AnthologyComic Secret Wars Journal]]'' story, while [[ComicBook/AngelaMarvelComics Angela]] will get recieved her own ''Witch Hunter Angela'' series, set to which also feature featured 1602 versions of ComicBook/BuckyBarnes and the ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy.
ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy.
16th Apr '15 3:05:28 PM occono
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Versions of ComicBook/DoctorStrange, ComicBook/NickFury, ComicBook/SpiderMan, the ComicBook/XMen, the ComicBook/FantasticFour, SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, ComicBook/BlackWidow, SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Thor}}, the ComicBook/{{Hulk}}, ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}, and [[spoiler: ComicBook/CaptainAmerica]] all play major roles in the story, along with several historical figures and original characters. Yes, ''all'' of them; none of them are throwaway characters.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Versions of ComicBook/DoctorStrange, ComicBook/NickFury, ComicBook/SpiderMan, the ComicBook/XMen, the ComicBook/FantasticFour, SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, ComicBook/BlackWidow, SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Thor}}, the ComicBook/{{Hulk}}, ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}, and [[spoiler: ComicBook/CaptainAmerica]] the actual ComicBook/CaptainAmerica from the future]] all play major roles in the story, along with several historical figures and original characters. Yes, ''all'' of them; none of them are throwaway characters.
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