History Characters / Psycho

29th Nov '16 7:06:37 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* GoneHorriblyRight: Her plan to [[spoiler:drive Norman insane again]] in the second film goes off very well. Unfortunately, she wasn't counting on Mary becoming sympathetic towards Norman, and ''definitely'' didn't foresee [[spoiler:Emma Spool]] messing everything up. Most importantly, which is why her actions are considered to be NiceJobBreakingItHero moves, she never foresee Norman undergoing [[spoiler:KarmaHoudini at the end of the second film after being driven AxCrazy again until his KarmaHoudiniWarranty in the next film, as if Spool had not killed Lila, she would have alerted the authorities the instant she learned Norman has just finally snapped and the further bloodshed under Norman's hand in the third film would have been avoided.]]

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* GoneHorriblyRight: Her [[spoiler:Posthumously for her]], her plan to [[spoiler:drive Norman insane again]] in the second film goes off very well. Unfortunately, she wasn't counting on Mary becoming sympathetic towards Norman, and ''definitely'' didn't foresee [[spoiler:Emma Spool]] messing everything up. Most importantly, which is why her actions are considered to be NiceJobBreakingItHero moves, she never foresee Norman undergoing [[spoiler:KarmaHoudini at the end of the second film after being driven AxCrazy again until his KarmaHoudiniWarranty in the next film, as if Spool had not killed Lila, she would have alerted the authorities the instant she learned Norman has just finally snapped and the further bloodshed under Norman's hand in the third film would have been avoided.]]
29th Nov '16 7:03:57 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* KickTheDog:

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* KickTheDog: One of the symptoms of her suffering from HeWhoFightsMonsters:



** She also hurts Mary in a fit of rage while shouting at her.

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** She also hurts Mary in a fit of rage (which could be the peak of her AngerBornOfWorry) while shouting at her.
29th Nov '16 7:01:03 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: In ''Psycho II''. Aside from the fact that her attempts to [[spoiler: drive Norman insane again to get him recommitted, which is considered to be very risky move, are a result of avenging her sister's death]], it also seems out of protecting any other potential victims (or as she quotes them to be "an innocent public") out of harm's way of a "homicidal maniac" (also quoted by her in the opening courtroom scene) in case if he ever relapsed back into insanity on his own [[spoiler: without any interference from outside parties such as herself]] if not sooner. Plus, even though Lila [[spoiler: did not seem to care if others who are already killed to have their deaths pinned on Norman anyway, it could be possible Lila saw them as necessary {{Sacrificial Lamb}}s to bring, what she see it as, a KarmaHoudini murderer to justice]].

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: In ''Psycho II''. Aside from the fact that her attempts to [[spoiler: drive Norman insane again to get him recommitted, which is considered to be a very risky move, are a result of avenging her sister's death]], it also seems out of protecting any other potential victims (or as she quotes them to be "an innocent public") out of harm's way of a "homicidal maniac" (also quoted by her in the opening courtroom scene) in case if he ever relapsed back into insanity on his own [[spoiler: without any interference from outside parties such as herself]] if not sooner. Plus, even though Lila [[spoiler: did not seem to care if others who are already killed to have their deaths pinned on Norman anyway, it could be possible Lila saw them as necessary {{Sacrificial Lamb}}s to bring, what she see it as, a KarmaHoudini murderer to justice]].
29th Nov '16 7:00:27 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* GoneHorriblyRight: Her plan to [[spoiler:drive Norman insane again]] in the second film goes off very well. Unfortunately, she wasn't counting on Mary becoming sympathetic towards Norman, and ''definitely'' didn't foresee [[spoiler:Emma Spool]] messing everything up. Most importantly, which is why her actions are considered to be NiceJobBreakingItHero moves, she never foresee Norman undergoing [[spoiler:KarmaHoudini up to the end of the second film after being driven AxCrazy again until his KarmaHoudiniWarranty in the next film, as if Spool had not killed Lila, she would have alerted the authorities the instant she learned Norman has just finally snapped and the further bloodshed under Norman's hand in the third film would have been avoided.]]

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* GoneHorriblyRight: Her plan to [[spoiler:drive Norman insane again]] in the second film goes off very well. Unfortunately, she wasn't counting on Mary becoming sympathetic towards Norman, and ''definitely'' didn't foresee [[spoiler:Emma Spool]] messing everything up. Most importantly, which is why her actions are considered to be NiceJobBreakingItHero moves, she never foresee Norman undergoing [[spoiler:KarmaHoudini up to at the end of the second film after being driven AxCrazy again until his KarmaHoudiniWarranty in the next film, as if Spool had not killed Lila, she would have alerted the authorities the instant she learned Norman has just finally snapped and the further bloodshed under Norman's hand in the third film would have been avoided.]]
29th Nov '16 6:58:56 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* GoneHorriblyRight: Her plan to [[spoiler:drive Norman insane again]] in the second film goes off very well. Unfortunately, she wasn't counting on Mary becoming sympathetic towards Norman, and ''definitely'' didn't foresee [[spoiler:Emma Spool]] messing everything up.

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* GoneHorriblyRight: Her plan to [[spoiler:drive Norman insane again]] in the second film goes off very well. Unfortunately, she wasn't counting on Mary becoming sympathetic towards Norman, and ''definitely'' didn't foresee [[spoiler:Emma Spool]] messing everything up. Most importantly, which is why her actions are considered to be NiceJobBreakingItHero moves, she never foresee Norman undergoing [[spoiler:KarmaHoudini up to the end of the second film after being driven AxCrazy again until his KarmaHoudiniWarranty in the next film, as if Spool had not killed Lila, she would have alerted the authorities the instant she learned Norman has just finally snapped and the further bloodshed under Norman's hand in the third film would have been avoided.]]



* WellIntentionedExtremist: In ''Psycho II''. Aside from the fact that her attempts to [[spoiler: drive Norman insane again to get him recommitted are a result of avenging her sister's death]], it also seems out of protecting any other potential victims (or as she quotes them to be "an innocent public") out of harm's way of a "homicidal maniac" (also quoted by her in the opening courtroom scene) in case if he ever relapsed back into insanity on his own [[spoiler: without any interference from outside parties such as herself]] if not sooner. Plus, even though Lila [[spoiler: did not seem to care if others who are already killed to have their deaths pinned on Norman anyway, it could be possible Lila saw them as necessary {{Sacrificial Lamb}}s to bring, what she see it as, a KarmaHoudini murderer to justice]].

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: In ''Psycho II''. Aside from the fact that her attempts to [[spoiler: drive Norman insane again to get him recommitted recommitted, which is considered to be very risky move, are a result of avenging her sister's death]], it also seems out of protecting any other potential victims (or as she quotes them to be "an innocent public") out of harm's way of a "homicidal maniac" (also quoted by her in the opening courtroom scene) in case if he ever relapsed back into insanity on his own [[spoiler: without any interference from outside parties such as herself]] if not sooner. Plus, even though Lila [[spoiler: did not seem to care if others who are already killed to have their deaths pinned on Norman anyway, it could be possible Lila saw them as necessary {{Sacrificial Lamb}}s to bring, what she see it as, a KarmaHoudini murderer to justice]].
15th Oct '16 9:41:22 AM Puterboy1
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** Vince Vaughin, who plays Norman in the 1998 remake is slightly closer to his book counterpart.



!!'''Marion Crane'''

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!!'''Marion "Mary" Crane'''


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* LosingYourHead: As opposed to being stabbed to death, Marion is beheaded in the novel's version of events regarding the shower scene.
2nd Jul '16 10:56:06 AM Saveelich
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: [[spoiler: In ''Psycho IV'', Norman conquers his insanity by facing his inner demons and destroying the "trap" his mother kept him in all his life. He's finally able to start a new family with his wife and prevent his child from carrying on his family's monstrous legacy.]]

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: [[spoiler: In ''Psycho IV'', Norman conquers defeats his insanity by facing his inner demons and destroying the "trap" his mother kept him in all his life.life by burning down the house. He's finally able to start a new family with his wife and prevent his child from carrying on his family's monstrous legacy.]]
13th Jun '16 4:42:49 PM Winner1
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* AdaptationalBadass: In the novels, Norman continued his descent into insanity and was completely dominated by the memory of his mother. In the film series, [[spoiler: he slowly overcomes his split personality's control over him and finally breaks free in the fourth and final film.]]


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* DeathSeeker: It's subtly implied more than a few instances that he has grown tired of living his depressing life.


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* EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette: A rare male example. Norman is a very emotional man with a DarkAndTroubledPast.


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* TookALevelInCheerfulness: [[spoiler: By the end of ''Psycho IV'', he overcomes his insanity and becomes optimistic for a brighter tomorrow with his newfound family.]]


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* DeathGlare: Constantly delivers a hateful stare at Norman.


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* KickTheDog:
** Not only does she argue to have an emotionally broken Norman thrown back into prison, but she chews him out right after his hearing and treats him like an animal.
** She also hurts Mary in a fit of rage while shouting at her.


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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler: She's very forceful towards her own daughter.]]


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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: [[spoiler: She wanted Norman to regrow his psychotic mental instability to have him arrested again, but instead she causes him to regrow into a SerialKiller while ''she's'' framed for all of his crimes in the second movie.]]


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* AllForNothing: [[spoiler: Her attempts to help Norman and Lila resolve their personal issues ultimately ends in failure due to her death.]]


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* CassandraTruth: She tries to tell Lila that Norman is cured of his insanity and [[spoiler: her attempts to drive him crazy are only making things worse]], but she refuses to acknowledge her arguments.


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* FailureHero: She wanted to help Norman and [[spoiler: her mother Lila]] solve their problems. Unfortunately, [[spoiler: all she did was escalate the conflict even more with her futile attempts to derail it.]]


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** HeelFaceDoorslam: [[spoiler: She begins to accept that Norman was crazy all along after finding Lila's corpse under his basement. Unfortunately, she gets shot dead by the police for being mistaken as the real killer.]]


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* TooDumbToLive: [[spoiler: When she hears the cops rushing into Norman's house, she never once thinks of removing her "Mother" costume while brandishing a knife preparing to kill Norman. This causes the cops to assume that she's the real killer and shoot her dead.]]
25th Apr '16 5:22:59 PM Winner1
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* AbusiveParents: The films make it no secret that he's been tormented by his own mother. If you consider ''Psycho IV'' canon, his stepfather [[JerkJock Chet]] also enjoyed beating him in "[[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown sports]]."
* AdaptationalAttractiveness: In the book, Norman was an overweight, balding slob. In the film, he's an {{adorkable}}, shy nice guy who looks cute and innocent.
* AdaptationalHeroism: In the second film, Norman wants to become a normal man and live a peaceful life befriending others. In the second book, Norman completely accepts his inner darkness and goes on a killing spree throughout California ForTheEvulz. Understandably, this characteristic was omitted in order to retain the audience's sympathy for him.



* TheDogBitesBack: [[spoiler: You could say his brutal murder of his mother was more than justified.]]



* GigglingVillain: He has a habit of suddenly giggling in the middle of his sentences, which is particularly unsettling when he's in the midst of a serious conversation.

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* GigglingVillain: He has a habit of suddenly giggling in the middle of his sentences, which is particularly unsettling when he's in the midst of a serious conversation. This changes after his time in the mental institution.


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* InsecureLoveInterest: He lacks a lot of confidence in himself while trying to establish a relationship with Mary and Maureen due to his dark history and low self-esteem.
* KickTheSonOfABitch: [[spoiler: In ''Psycho IV'', aside from murdering his abusive mother he also kills his stepfather [[ChildHater Chet]] as well.]]


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* NoSocialSkills: Because he's been isolated all of his life, Norman has trouble interacting with others.
* NotMeThisTime: The antagonist from ''Psycho II'' is actually ''not'' Norman.
* OddCouple: The oddest relationship he ever had was his romance with Maureen, [[NaughtyNuns a nun]] with emotional issues.


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* SelfMadeOrphan: [[spoiler: A surprisingly ''justified'' example. He killed his mother in order to put an end to his abuse.]]


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* ShrinkingViolet: Due to his mother's atrocious abuse, Norman is very shy and has NoSocialSkills.


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* TookALevelInKindness: From the second film onward, Norman becomes a kinder person simply trying to live a normal life and escape his psychological issues.
24th Apr '16 11:12:33 AM Rolling68Q
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* FatalFlaw: In addition to being impulsive, she has a nasty habit of taking matters into her own hands when she feels things are not progressing as they should. It is justified in the first film and novel, but it almost gets her killed. In the second film, [[spoiler: it finally catches up to her]].
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