History Characters / Psycho

25th Apr '16 5:22:59 PM Winner1
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* AbusiveParents: The films make it no secret that he's been tormented by his own mother. If you consider ''Psycho IV'' canon, his stepfather [[JerkJock Chet]] also enjoyed beating him in "[[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown sports]]."
* AdaptationalAttractiveness: In the book, Norman was an overweight, balding slob. In the film, he's an {{adorkable}}, shy nice guy who looks cute and innocent.
* AdaptationalHeroism: In the second film, Norman wants to become a normal man and live a peaceful life befriending others. In the second book, Norman completely accepts his inner darkness and goes on a killing spree throughout California ForTheEvulz. Understandably, this characteristic was omitted in order to retain the audience's sympathy for him.



* TheDogBitesBack: [[spoiler: You could say his brutal murder of his mother was more than justified.]]



* GigglingVillain: He has a habit of suddenly giggling in the middle of his sentences, which is particularly unsettling when he's in the midst of a serious conversation.

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* GigglingVillain: He has a habit of suddenly giggling in the middle of his sentences, which is particularly unsettling when he's in the midst of a serious conversation. This changes after his time in the mental institution.


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* InsecureLoveInterest: He lacks a lot of confidence in himself while trying to establish a relationship with Mary and Maureen due to his dark history and low self-esteem.
* KickTheSonOfABitch: [[spoiler: In ''Psycho IV'', aside from murdering his abusive mother he also kills his stepfather [[ChildHater Chet]] as well.]]


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* NoSocialSkills: Because he's been isolated all of his life, Norman has trouble interacting with others.
* NotMeThisTime: The antagonist from ''Psycho II'' is actually ''not'' Norman.
* OddCouple: The oddest relationship he ever had was his romance with Maureen, [[NaughtyNuns a nun]] with emotional issues.


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* SelfMadeOrphan: [[spoiler: A surprisingly ''justified'' example. He killed his mother in order to put an end to his abuse.]]


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* ShrinkingViolet: Due to his mother's atrocious abuse, Norman is very shy and has NoSocialSkills.


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* TookALevelInKindness: From the second film onward, Norman becomes a kinder person simply trying to live a normal life and escape his psychological issues.
24th Apr '16 11:12:33 AM Rolling68Q
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* FatalFlaw: In addition to being impulsive, she has a nasty habit of taking matters into her own hands when she feels things are not progressing as they should. It is justified in the first film and novel, but it almost gets her killed. In the second film, [[spoiler: it finally catches up to her]].
15th Apr '16 12:52:38 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: [[spoiler: Had she not attempted to drive Norman back into insanity, none of the events of the second film would have occurred. [[NiceJobFixingItVillain Thanks to her, Norman returns back to his psychotic ways]].]]
6th Feb '16 1:37:07 PM Silverblade2
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** HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: Finally becomes good in ''Psycho IV'' after confronting his DarkAndTroubledPast.]]

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** * HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: Finally becomes good in ''Psycho IV'' after confronting his DarkAndTroubledPast.]]



* KillTheCutie[=/=] HeelFaceDoorSlam: She decides to return to face punishment for her crimes, but is soon killed by Norman.

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* KillTheCutie[=/=] HeelFaceDoorSlam: KillTheCutie: She decides to return to face punishment for her crimes, but is soon killed by Norman.



* NiceJobBreakingItHero[=/=]NiceJobFixingItVillain: [[spoiler: Thanks to her desire for revenge on Norman she caused him to return to his psychotic ways.]]

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero[=/=]NiceJobFixingItVillain: NiceJobBreakingItHero: [[spoiler: Thanks to her desire for revenge on Norman she caused him to return to his psychotic ways.]]



* TheSociopath[=/=]SociopathicHero: In ''Psycho II'', [[spoiler: this is one of the symptoms of Lila suffering from HeWhoFightsMonsters when she takes her HeroAntagonist role too far when a teenage boy dies horribly in Bates' home, she quickly dismisses the death even though she was not directly responsible for his death and sees it as an opportunity to pin it on Norman, not giving a care about the life lost at all. Her daughter [[WhatTheHellHero calls her out on it.]]]]

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* TheSociopath[=/=]SociopathicHero: SociopathicHero: In ''Psycho II'', [[spoiler: this is one of the symptoms of Lila suffering from HeWhoFightsMonsters when she takes her HeroAntagonist role too far when a teenage boy dies horribly in Bates' home, she quickly dismisses the death even though she was not directly responsible for his death and sees it as an opportunity to pin it on Norman, not giving a care about the life lost at all. Her daughter [[WhatTheHellHero calls her out on it.]]]]



* BigBad[=/=]BiggerBad: She's established as the biggest problem in the series. [[spoiler: At least in Norman's psyche.]]

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* BigBad[=/=]BiggerBad: BiggerBad: She's established as the biggest problem in the series. [[spoiler: At least in Norman's psyche.]]



** JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: She would cruelly pretend that she was harsh on Norman because she said that she does care about him, only in an effort to drive him back to her so she had someone to abuse.

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** * JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: She would cruelly pretend that she was harsh on Norman because she said that she does care about him, only in an effort to drive him back to her so she had someone to abuse.



* NightmareFace [=/=] SlasherSmile: [[spoiler: Her permanent facial expression has become this after Norman used his taxidermy skills to preserve her corpse. Just look at the image from the original film.]]

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* NightmareFace [=/=] SlasherSmile: NightmareFace: [[spoiler: Her permanent facial expression has become this after Norman used his taxidermy skills to preserve her corpse. Just look at the image from the original film.]]



* DidntThinkThisThrough[=/=]TooDumbToLive: [[spoiler: When the police arrive on the scene, she never thought that they'd consider her the criminal despite that she's holding a weapon, threatening Norman, and dressed as his mother.]]

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* DidntThinkThisThrough[=/=]TooDumbToLive: DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler: When the police arrive on the scene, she never thought that they'd consider her the criminal despite that she's holding a weapon, threatening Norman, and dressed as his mother.]]



* ShipTease: She develops a small interest in Norman, which he returns. Unfortunately...
** ShipSinking: [[spoiler: Her relationship with Norman quickly crumbles after she assumes he killed her mother before she gets killed herself by the police when they mistake her for the true villain.]]

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* ShipSinking: [[spoiler: Her relationship with Norman quickly crumbles after she assumes he killed her mother before she gets killed herself by the police when they mistake her for the true villain.]]
* ShipTease: She develops a small interest in Norman, which he returns. Unfortunately...\n** ShipSinking: [[spoiler: Her relationship with Norman quickly crumbles after she assumes he killed her mother before she gets killed herself by the police when they mistake her for the true villain.]]



* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice[=/=] InTheBack: [[spoiler: She ends up impaled on [[DeathByIrony a statue of Cupid's arrow through her back after falling]] from the stairs.]]

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* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice[=/=] InTheBack: ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: [[spoiler: She ends up impaled on [[DeathByIrony a statue of Cupid's arrow through her back after falling]] from the stairs.]]



* ShipSinking: Her relationship with Norman takes quite a hit when she ends up leaving him after learning of his troubled history. However, she finds herself unable to leave Norman and desires to live a happy life with him forever [[spoiler: Unfortunately, just about when Norman is going to accept her back, she accidentally dies falling down the stairs.]]



** ShipSinking: Their relationship takes quite a hit when she ends up leaving him after learning of his troubled history. However, she finds herself unable to leave Norman and desires to live a happy life with him forever [[spoiler: Unfortunately, just about when Norman is going to accept her back, she accidentally dies falling down the stairs.]]
28th Jan '16 4:36:33 AM TywinLannister
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* HeroAntagonist: Towards Norman, in ''Psycho''. It's subverted in ''Psycho II'', as the Antagonist side of this trope outweigh the Hero part due to her methods of taking down a serial killer despite Lila still fulfilling the same trope.

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* HeroAntagonist: Towards Norman, in ''Psycho''. ''Psycho'', along with Sam Loomis. It's subverted in ''Psycho II'', as the Antagonist side of this trope outweigh the Hero part and due to her methods of taking down a serial killer despite Lila still fulfilling the same trope.fact [[spoiler: that Norman was innocent to begin with and would have stayed that way had she not interfered.]]
28th Jan '16 4:33:45 AM TywinLannister
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* BigBadEnsemble: [[spoiler: She and Mrs. Spool are both the main antagonists of the second film, however, while Spool fulfills her BigBad half straight, Lila on the other hand fulfills the HeroAntagonist half of this ensemble.]]

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* BigBadEnsemble: [[spoiler: She and Mrs. Spool are both the main antagonists of the second film, however, while Spool fulfills her BigBad half straight, Lila on the other hand fulfills the HeroAntagonist KnightTemplar half of this ensemble.]]



* HeroAntagonist: Towards Norman, in ''Psycho'' and ''Psycho II'', however, even though in the sequel she is performing her duty defending the well being of any potential victims from, what she sees as, a KarmaHoudini psychopathic killer and still ''genuinely'' believes so as she goes about at the expense of Norman, it's subverted in ''Psycho II'', as the Antagonist side of this trope outweigh the Hero part due to her methods of taking down a serial killer despite Lila still fulfilling the same trope.

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* HeroAntagonist: Towards Norman, in ''Psycho'' and ''Psycho II'', however, even though in the sequel she is performing her duty defending the well being of any potential victims from, what she sees as, a KarmaHoudini psychopathic killer and still ''genuinely'' believes so as she goes about at the expense of Norman, it's ''Psycho''. It's subverted in ''Psycho II'', as the Antagonist side of this trope outweigh the Hero part due to her methods of taking down a serial killer despite Lila still fulfilling the same trope.
20th Jan '16 6:01:02 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* StalkerWithoutACrush: [[spoiler: She's monitoring Norman's entire life in order to get him recommitted to the insane asylum out of vengeance for all the wrongs he's done to her.]]

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* StalkerWithoutACrush: [[spoiler: She's In her newfound role as a straightforward {{vigilante}}, she's monitoring Norman's entire life in order to get him recommitted to the insane asylum out of vengeance for all the wrongs he's done to her.]]
20th Jan '16 5:58:56 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: She grows genuinely convinced of Norman's newfound sanity and at some point doesn't want to help her mother make him insane anymore, however, after discovering Lila's dead body, she fully accept Lila was right all along about Norman and gets killed just after believing into it.]]

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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: She grows genuinely convinced of Norman's newfound sanity and at some point doesn't want to help her mother make him insane anymore, [[HeelFaceDoorSlam however, after discovering Lila's dead body, she fully accept Lila was right all along about Norman and gets killed just after believing into it.it]].]]
20th Jan '16 5:50:34 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* TheSociopath: In ''Psycho II'', [[spoiler: when a teenage boy dies horribly in Bates' home, she quickly dismisses the death and sees it as an opportunity to pin it on Norman, not giving a care about the life lost at all. Her daughter [[WhatTheHellHero calls her out on it.]]]]

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* TheSociopath: TheSociopath[=/=]SociopathicHero: In ''Psycho II'', [[spoiler: this is one of the symptoms of Lila suffering from HeWhoFightsMonsters when she takes her HeroAntagonist role too far when a teenage boy dies horribly in Bates' home, she quickly dismisses the death even though she was not directly responsible for his death and sees it as an opportunity to pin it on Norman, not giving a care about the life lost at all. Her daughter [[WhatTheHellHero calls her out on it.]]]]



* SympatheticInspectorAntagonist: In the original film only, in the sequel she conversely became a somewhat unsympathetic InspectorJavert {{vigilante}}.



* TookALevelInJerkass: In ''Psycho II''. In the first movie, she was a polite but determined AmateurSleuth who wanted to find out what happened to her sister. In ''Psycho II'' she [[spoiler: became an unscrupulously staunch KnightTemplar VigilanteWoman who tries to amorally drive Norman insane again out of revenge.]]

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* TookALevelInJerkass: In ''Psycho II''. In the first movie, she was a polite but determined AmateurSleuth who wanted to find out what happened to her sister. sister and more of a straightforward HeroAntagonist to Norman's then-VillainProtagonist. In ''Psycho II'' II'', while still fulfilling her part as a HeroAntagonist, she [[spoiler: became an unscrupulously staunch KnightTemplar VigilanteWoman who tries to amorally drive Norman insane again out of revenge.]]
10th Jan '16 7:08:37 PM Winner1
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** HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: Finally becomes good in ''Psycho IV'' after confronting his DarkAndTroubledPast.]]



* IJustWantToBeNormal: He desires to live like a non-abused human being would in a happy environment with a loving woman in his life. Considering his childhood, this is very justified.



* ImplaedWithExtremePrejudice: Knifed in the shower a dozen times until dying.

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* ImplaedWithExtremePrejudice: ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Knifed in the shower a dozen times until dying.



* SingleTear: A final drip of water drops across her pale, dead face.



* RightForTheWrongReasons: She does [[JerkassHasAPoint have a point]] in questioning Norman's mental condition and if he's truly ready for the world. However, she completely hates him and has NoSympathy for Bates because of what he's done ''to her''.



* StalkerWithoutACrush: [[spoiler: She's monitoring Norman's entire life in order to get him recommitted to the insane asylum out of vengeance for all the wrongs he's done to her.]]



* DefrostingIceQueen: She was initially very cold towards Norman at first and distanced herself from him, but wound up developing a fondness for him.



* TheDragon: [[spoiler: To her mother Lila.]]



* FailureKnight: Her main goal was to [[spoiler: help her mother Lila get Norman recommitted to the institution, but she genuinely develops feelings for Norman and tries to help him fully reform. However, thanks to Spool's interference, her attempts to help Norman sadly fail and she ends up [[MistakenForMurderer mistaken as the true killer]] and gunned down by the police, failing her goals.]]



* HeroicWannabe: She really comes across as this near the end of the ''II''. She wants to help appease both Norman and her mother, but struggles between making a choice on whose side she's on. [[spoiler: Sadly, she causes Norman to pull another FaceHeelTurn in the end because of her mistakes.]]

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* HeroicWannabe: She really comes across as this near the end of the ''II''. ''Psycho II''. She wants to help appease both Norman [[spoiler: and her mother, mother]], but struggles between making a choice on whose side she's on. [[spoiler: Sadly, she causes Norman to pull another FaceHeelTurn in the end [[NiceJobBreakingItHero because of her mistakes.mistakes]].]]


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* PetTheDog: She genuinely comforts Norman when he suffers a FreakOut, calming his nerves. She also defends him from Toomey and Lila's criticisms towards him.


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* TheDogWasTheMastermind: [[spoiler: Turns out that this seemingly kind, elderly lady was truly the GreaterScopeVillain of the entire ''Psycho'' film series.]]


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* MamaBear: Don't insult or threaten Norman in front of her. [[spoiler: As Toomey and Lila found out the hard way.]]


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* StalkerWithoutACrush: [[spoiler: She's been following Norman, Mary, ''and'' Lila all throughout ''Psycho II''. Her main purpose is to protect Norman from Lila because she ''claims'' that he's her son. Mary almost catches her, but Spool is surprisingly stealthy.]]
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