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* BaitTheDog: His first appearance in "Later" characterizes him as an athletic philanthropist with a knack for spectacle, a flair for the dramatic, and deep bravery, who travels to desolated areas and helping necessitated people while looking cool. When Diane talks to him, he sounds too too good to be true. He is. During Diane's first day, Sebastian introduces her to the people at the refugee camp and even shares a tender moment with one of the orphans, his personal assistant Kinko. The next day, he advises Diane that ''maybe'' she shouldn't spend so much time with Kinko. It all goes downhill from there.

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* BaitTheDog: His first appearance in "Later" characterizes him as an athletic philanthropist with a knack for spectacle, a flair for the dramatic, and deep bravery, who travels to desolated areas and helping necessitated people while looking cool. When Diane talks to him, he sounds too too good to be true. He is. During Diane's first day, Sebastian introduces her to the people at the refugee camp and even shares a tender moment with one of the orphans, his personal assistant Kinko. The next day, he advises Diane that ''maybe'' she shouldn't spend so much time with Kinko. It all goes downhill from there.

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* MemeticBadass: InUniverse, it's possible Squeaky did kill King Puss Puss with one stroke of sword, but the over-the-top nature of the song and obvious bias as mice "pride" makes it doubtful it was as quick as the story says. Whatever Squeaky's fighting prowess was, he'll always be remembered as the one who killed the maniac cat with no effort.



* OnlyOneName: May be had a surname, but legend has him pegged as "Squeaky". Just "Squeaky".

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* OnlyOneName: May be have had a surname, but legend has him pegged as "Squeaky". Just "Squeaky".



* {{Tyrannicide}}: Part of his importance within the story (InUniverse and out), he put an end to the omnicidal ambitions of a mad cat king by stabbing him in the gut. This led to both the sparing of unmeasurable innocent lives of mice who's only crime was probably having a different religion, proper escape for immigrants rodents to other countries and the end of a long reign of terror. In a way, his whole story could be read as that of the weakling beating the large giant and saving the kingdom. Squeaky's legacy has been a mixed bag: true, his tale is revered and gives hope to the descendants of those persecuted as that of reliance and bravery, without which the land would have bled; however, such fanaticism has expanded beyond ascending Squeaky to "saint" status, focusing on the {{demonization}} of cats of all kind, with King Puss Puss becoming nothing more than a figure of hatred, a stand-in for all felines, good or otherwise. This is the main reason why "Squeakivus" isn't viewed as progressive as it should be: when it reduces people to stereotypes for the sake of a good story, the caste system isn't destroyed, just turned on its head.

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* ShroudedInMyth: It's possible Squeaky did kill King Puss Puss with one stroke of his sword, but the over-the-top nature of the song and obvious bias as mice "pride" makes it doubtful it was as quick as the story says. Whatever Squeaky's fighting prowess was, he'll always be remembered as the one who killed the maniac cat with no effort.
* {{Tyrannicide}}: Part of his importance within the story (InUniverse and out), he put an end to the omnicidal ambitions of a mad cat king by stabbing him in the gut. This led to both the sparing of unmeasurable innocent lives of mice who's whose only crime was probably having a different religion, proper escape for immigrants immigrant rodents to other countries and the end of a long reign of terror. In a way, his whole story could be read as that of the weakling beating the large giant and saving the kingdom. Squeaky's legacy has been a mixed bag: true, his tale is revered and gives hope to the descendants of those persecuted as that of reliance and bravery, without which the land would have bled; however, such fanaticism has expanded beyond ascending Squeaky to "saint" status, focusing on the {{demonization}} of cats of all kind, with King Puss Puss becoming nothing more than a figure of hatred, a stand-in for all felines, good or otherwise. This is the main reason why "Squeakivus" isn't viewed as progressive as it should be: when it reduces people to stereotypes for the sake of a good story, the caste system isn't destroyed, just turned on its head.



* AristocratsAreEvil: The biggest authority of the kingdom, wealthy, noble and an OmnicidalManiac with religious fanaticism.
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** To both Mr. Peanutbutter and [=BoJack=]. [[StepfordSmiler Mr. Peanutbutter]], despite being an AntiNihilist [[LoveYouAndEverybody tries his best to cheer up everyone]] in a FunPersonified way. [=BoJack=] is a [[HatesEveryoneEqually bitter]] and [[ByronicHero troubled]] [[TheCynic cynical]] [[DrowningMySorrows alcoholic]] with [[WhatHaveIBecome deep-rooted contempt]] for himself and [[SourOutsideSadInside sadness]] about the world. Yet, when push comes to shove, he constantly [[HiddenDepths proves himself]] to be [[MoreThanMeetsTheEye a thoughtful, intelligent and tender person]] who [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold can care about ideals and people]]. Sebastian, on the other hand, brings hope to Cordovia out of selfishness and cares nothing about the people outside of guilt and pity.

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** To both Mr. Peanutbutter and [=BoJack=]. [[StepfordSmiler Mr. Peanutbutter]], despite being an AntiNihilist [[LoveYouAndEverybody tries his best to cheer up everyone]] everyone in a FunPersonified way. [=BoJack=] is a [[HatesEveryoneEqually bitter]] and [[ByronicHero troubled]] [[TheCynic cynical]] [[DrowningMySorrows alcoholic]] with [[WhatHaveIBecome deep-rooted contempt]] for himself and [[SourOutsideSadInside sadness]] about the world. Yet, when push comes to shove, he constantly [[HiddenDepths proves himself]] to be [[MoreThanMeetsTheEye a thoughtful, intelligent and tender person]] who [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold can care about ideals and people]]. Sebastian, on the other hand, brings hope to Cordovia out of selfishness and cares nothing about the people outside of guilt and pity.

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* BigGood: {{ZigZagged|Trope}}. He's this to Cordovia's people, at least to a certain extent. There's no doubt his actions have helped the country. He's building hospitals, restoring culture by staging plays and musicals, and spearheading a soup kitchen serving everyone in a straight line. However, his indifference to the actual people he's helping and his self-centered attitude glorifying himself at the expense of others does hinder whatever good traits he has. Arguably though, his indifference might actually make him ''more effective'' than the empathetic people like Diane. See JerkassHasAPoint below.

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* BigGood: {{ZigZagged|Trope}}. He's this to Cordovia's people, at least to a certain extent. There's no doubt his actions have helped the country. He's building hospitals, restoring culture by staging plays and musicals, and spearheading a soup kitchen serving everyone in a straight line. However, his indifference to the actual people he's helping and his self-centered attitude glorifying himself at the expense of others does hinder whatever good traits he has. Arguably though, his indifference might actually make him ''more effective'' than the empathetic people like Diane. See JerkassHasAPoint below.



* AdviceBackfire: See RousingSpeech below. Not really helpful at all.



* OffstageVillainy: See AmbiguousSituation above.
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* CatsAreMean: Full of himself, convinced of his own greatness and ignorant of the true suffering of the survivors in Cordovia, Sebastian makes [[WhiteDwarfStarlet BoJack]] look humble.

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* CatsAreMean: Full of himself, convinced of his own greatness and ignorant of the true suffering of the survivors in Cordovia, Sebastian makes [[WhiteDwarfStarlet BoJack]] [=BoJack=]]] look humble.



** To both Mr. Peanutbutter and [=BoJack=]. [[StepfordSmiler Mr. Peanutbutter]], despite being an AntiNihilist [[LoveYouAndEverybody tries his best to cheer up everyone]] in a FunPersonified way. Bojack is a [[HatesEveryoneEqually bitter]] and [[ByronicHero troubled]] [[TheCynic cynical]] [[DrowningMySorrows alcoholic]] with [[WhatHaveIBecome deep-rooted contempt]] for himself and [[SourOutsideSadInside sadness]] about the world. Yet, when push comes to shove, he constantly [[HiddenDepths proves himself]] to be [[MoreThanMeetsTheEye a thoughtful, intelligent and tender person]] who [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold can care about ideals and people]]. Sebastian, on the other hand, brings hope to Cordovia out of selfishness and cares nothing about the people outside of guilt and pity.

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** To both Mr. Peanutbutter and [=BoJack=]. [[StepfordSmiler Mr. Peanutbutter]], despite being an AntiNihilist [[LoveYouAndEverybody tries his best to cheer up everyone]] in a FunPersonified way. Bojack [=BoJack=] is a [[HatesEveryoneEqually bitter]] and [[ByronicHero troubled]] [[TheCynic cynical]] [[DrowningMySorrows alcoholic]] with [[WhatHaveIBecome deep-rooted contempt]] for himself and [[SourOutsideSadInside sadness]] about the world. Yet, when push comes to shove, he constantly [[HiddenDepths proves himself]] to be [[MoreThanMeetsTheEye a thoughtful, intelligent and tender person]] who [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold can care about ideals and people]]. Sebastian, on the other hand, brings hope to Cordovia out of selfishness and cares nothing about the people outside of guilt and pity.



* BetaCouple: He and Maddie are this to Bojack and Penny, since they're carpooling together to the school dance.
* BrokenPedestal: After admiring Bojack because of his openness towards teenage drinking and disregard for rules, he's crushed and horrified when he tries to coerce him into dumping Maddie into a hospital entrance after she suffers alcohol intoxication.

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* BetaCouple: He and Maddie are this to Bojack [=BoJack=] and Penny, since they're carpooling together to the school dance.
* BrokenPedestal: After admiring Bojack [=BoJack=] because of his openness towards teenage drinking and disregard for rules, he's crushed and horrified when he tries to coerce him into dumping Maddie into a hospital entrance after she suffers alcohol intoxication.



* CorruptionOfAMinor: First, there's the drinking part where Penny, Maddy and Pete are involved. Then, after Maddie collapses, Pete is persuaded by Bojack to stay with her at the hospital while he returns home with Penny.

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* CorruptionOfAMinor: First, there's the drinking part where Penny, Maddy and Pete are involved. Then, after Maddie collapses, Pete is persuaded by Bojack [=BoJack=] to stay with her at the hospital while he returns home with Penny.



* InnocentBystander: Just one of the many people that Bojack ends up hurting during "Escape From L.A."

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* InnocentBystander: Just one of the many people that Bojack [=BoJack=] ends up hurting during "Escape From L.A."



* NiceGuy: He's a perfectly friendly kid who has the severe misfortune of attending prom in the company of Bojack.

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* NiceGuy: He's a perfectly friendly kid who has the severe misfortune of attending prom in the company of Bojack.[=BoJack=].



* SmallRoleBigImpact: Pete only shows up twice in the 76 episodes of the series, but [[spoiler: him being a witness to Maddy's alcohol poisoning and telling Hollyhock all about it is one of the reasons why Hollyhock eventually made the hard decision to completely cut Bojack out of her life forever]].

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* SmallRoleBigImpact: Pete only shows up twice in the 76 episodes of the series, but [[spoiler: him being a witness to Maddy's alcohol poisoning and telling Hollyhock all about it is one of the reasons why Hollyhock eventually made the hard decision to completely cut Bojack [=BoJack=] out of her life forever]].



* ToBeLawfulOrGood: While what happened to Maddy was an accident, he doesn't take well that he has to lie just to cover Bojack's back and responsibility in the incident. He hesitates until Bojack convinces him.

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* ToBeLawfulOrGood: While what happened to Maddy was an accident, he doesn't take well that he has to lie just to cover Bojack's [=BoJack=]'s back and responsibility in the incident. He hesitates until Bojack [=BoJack=] convinces him.



* WorstAid: Forced to do this to Maddy by Bojack, much to his chagrin.

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* WorstAid: Forced to do this to Maddy by Bojack, [=BoJack=], much to his chagrin.



Penny's second friend, after Alison Flierl, who along with Penny, Bojack and Pete, carpools to the prom. [[labelnote:Spoiler Information]] After drinking too much of [=BoJack=]'s alcohol, she ends up suffering from alcohol poisoning during the double date.[[/labelnote]]

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Penny's second friend, after Alison Flierl, who along with Penny, Bojack [=BoJack=] and Pete, carpools to the prom. [[labelnote:Spoiler Information]] After drinking too much of [=BoJack=]'s alcohol, she ends up suffering from alcohol poisoning during the double date.[[/labelnote]]



* BetaCouple: She and Pete are this to Bojack and Penny, since they're carpooling together to the school dance.

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* BetaCouple: She and Pete are this to Bojack [=BoJack=] and Penny, since they're carpooling together to the school dance.



* InnocentBystander: Less so than Pete, since she also brought it on herself; but she's, like him, just one of the many people that Bojack ends up hurting during "Escape From L.A."

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* InnocentBystander: Less so than Pete, since she also brought it on herself; but she's, like him, just one of the many people that Bojack [=BoJack=] ends up hurting during "Escape From L.A."



* SacrificialLamb: Her fate is the first of many disasters caused by Bojack in "Escape From L.A."
* ToBeLawfulOrGood: While what happened to Maddy was an accident, Pete doesn't take well that he is forced to lie just to cover Bojack's back and responsibility in the incident, as well as stay to see if she'll be okay. Even worse, the first option was leaving her at the entrance.

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* SacrificialLamb: Her fate is the first of many disasters caused by Bojack [=BoJack=] in "Escape From L.A."
* ToBeLawfulOrGood: While what happened to Maddy was an accident, Pete doesn't take well that he is forced to lie just to cover Bojack's [=BoJack=]'s back and responsibility in the incident, as well as stay to see if she'll be okay. Even worse, the first option was leaving her at the entrance.



* WorstAid: Poor Maddy ends up getting intoxicated on the alcohol brought by Bojack and when deciding what to do, Bojack decides to leave Pete in the hospital to accompany her while he takes Penny home.

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* WorstAid: Poor Maddy ends up getting intoxicated on the alcohol brought by Bojack [=BoJack=] and when deciding what to do, Bojack [=BoJack=] decides to leave Pete in the hospital to accompany her while he takes Penny home.



A rising playwright spider in New York theatre who was involved in "The Bojack Horseman Show".

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A rising playwright spider in New York theatre who was involved in "The Bojack [=BoJack=] Horseman Show".



* CrypticBackgroundReference: At first, she seems like just a one-off character who can offer [=BoJack=] a job after filming Secretariat, but then, it's revealed that Jill knows Bojack because she worked with him on his show... [[spoiler: which is ''not'' JustForFun/HorsinAround.]]

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* CrypticBackgroundReference: At first, she seems like just a one-off character who can offer [=BoJack=] a job after filming Secretariat, but then, it's revealed that Jill knows Bojack [=BoJack=] because she worked with him on his show... [[spoiler: which is ''not'' JustForFun/HorsinAround.]]



A journalist working for Manatee Fair, who interviews Bojack in "Start Spreading the News."

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A journalist working for Manatee Fair, who interviews Bojack [=BoJack=] in "Start Spreading the News."



* ChekhovsGun: The tape recording she has of Bojack confessing that she nearly slept with Penny is never shown for the rest of Season 3. In "Bojack the Feminist" Ana realizes Vance and Bojack are just pretending to be feminists for the publicity and don't really care about women, she gives the tape to Diane, which leads to their relationship souring.
* InnocentlyInsensitive: She tells Bojack when they're about to sleep together to "get up on her boat." Too bad it triggered his feelings about Penny Carson.
* IntrepidReporter: She compromises her integrity by sleeping with Bojack. After an unfortunate remark, she triggers Bojack, who confesses that he nearly slept with a teenaged girl in New Mexico and the version of him in Secretariat is just computer generated. Would've made for such a scoop, but thankfully, Bojack had Ana Spanakopita as his publicist.
* SmallRoleBigImpact: Heather only appears in one episode, but the tape she records leads to the fracturing of Bojack and Diane's relationship in Season 5.
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: It's never really stated what Ana meant by "took care of everything" beyond the fact Ana somehow took possession of the tape. She can be heard talking on the phone to Heather in "It's You" when Bojack gets nominated for an Oscar.

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* ChekhovsGun: The tape recording she has of Bojack [=BoJack=] confessing that she nearly slept with Penny is never shown for the rest of Season 3. In "Bojack the Feminist" Ana realizes Vance and Bojack [=BoJack=] are just pretending to be feminists for the publicity and don't really care about women, she gives the tape to Diane, which leads to their relationship souring.
* InnocentlyInsensitive: She tells Bojack [=BoJack=] when they're about to sleep together to "get up on her boat." Too bad it triggered his feelings about Penny Carson.
* IntrepidReporter: She compromises her integrity by sleeping with Bojack. [=BoJack=]. After an unfortunate remark, she triggers Bojack, [=BoJack=], who confesses that he nearly slept with a teenaged girl in New Mexico and the version of him in Secretariat is just computer generated. Would've made for such a scoop, but thankfully, Bojack [=BoJack=] had Ana Spanakopita as his publicist.
* SmallRoleBigImpact: Heather only appears in one episode, but the tape she records leads to the fracturing of Bojack [=BoJack=] and Diane's relationship in Season 5.
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: It's never really stated what Ana meant by "took care of everything" beyond the fact Ana somehow took possession of the tape. She can be heard talking on the phone to Heather in "It's You" when Bojack [=BoJack=] gets nominated for an Oscar.



* WaterIsAir: {{Zigzagged|Trope}} ''mercilessly'', mostly for the sake of jokes. Land-dwellers need special helmets to breathe in the underwater city. However, we see walruses and other such sea animals that actually ''need'' air doing totally fine without them. In the spirit of this trope, citizens walk and drive along the sea floor instead of swimming or floating (they also walk normally without any extra effort), yet, Bojack realizes soon enough that he actually ''can'' swim, something he takes advantage of to escape safely through a window several stories above the floor. Made even more hilarious by the fact that his pursuers, ''actual fish'', make no effort to swim after him, instead standing there shaking their fists. Printed media and pens seem to be a thing down there as well, but the ''moment'' Bojack tries to communicate with Kelsey through a heartfelt, hand-written letter, the ink ''[[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome washes away]]''. This trope seems to be averted and played straight as the story demands, ''and it's perfect''.

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* WaterIsAir: {{Zigzagged|Trope}} ''mercilessly'', mostly for the sake of jokes. Land-dwellers need special helmets to breathe in the underwater city. However, we see walruses and other such sea animals that actually ''need'' air doing totally fine without them. In the spirit of this trope, citizens walk and drive along the sea floor instead of swimming or floating (they also walk normally without any extra effort), yet, Bojack [=BoJack=] realizes soon enough that he actually ''can'' swim, something he takes advantage of to escape safely through a window several stories above the floor. Made even more hilarious by the fact that his pursuers, ''actual fish'', make no effort to swim after him, instead standing there shaking their fists. Printed media and pens seem to be a thing down there as well, but the ''moment'' Bojack [=BoJack=] tries to communicate with Kelsey through a heartfelt, hand-written letter, the ink ''[[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome washes away]]''. This trope seems to be averted and played straight as the story demands, ''and it's perfect''.



A lonely old dragonfly who lives in a rural Michigan town, right next-door to the former Sugarman summer cabin. When Bojack moves into his family's old cabin, he becomes Eddie's neighbor and acquaintance.

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A lonely old dragonfly who lives in a rural Michigan town, right next-door to the former Sugarman summer cabin. When Bojack [=BoJack=] moves into his family's old cabin, he becomes Eddie's neighbor and acquaintance.



* NiceGuy: While he appears to be depressed and emotionally damaged, and occasionally (playfully) insulted Bojack and acted like a lonely grump, he is still likable and sympathetic. When he realizes Bojack cannot fix his grandparents' house, he is more than willing to spend almost a year fixing their place out of just wanting to help. When Bojack says he wants to repay him back for all his help, all he does is close his tool box and says "don't sweat it".

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* NiceGuy: While he appears to be depressed and emotionally damaged, and occasionally (playfully) insulted Bojack [=BoJack=] and acted like a lonely grump, he is still likable and sympathetic. When he realizes Bojack [=BoJack=] cannot fix his grandparents' house, he is more than willing to spend almost a year fixing their place out of just wanting to help. When Bojack [=BoJack=] says he wants to repay him back for all his help, all he does is close his tool box and says "don't sweat it".



* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: In-universe, Bojack isn't sure if Secretariat regretted his suicide or not. [[spoiler:In Bojack's DyingDream, Secretariat gets defensive when asked and says jumping off the bridge was the best decision he made. When he recites "The View From Halfway Down," however, Secretariat becomes anxious and shouts that he regretted jumping]].

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: In-universe, Bojack [=BoJack=] isn't sure if Secretariat regretted his suicide or not. [[spoiler:In Bojack's [=BoJack=]'s DyingDream, Secretariat gets defensive when asked and says jumping off the bridge was the best decision he made. When he recites "The View From Halfway Down," however, Secretariat becomes anxious and shouts that he regretted jumping]].



* AntiRoleModel: To Bojack and others. While he was an admired figure to his fans, Secretariat's upbringing made it impossible for him to diverge from the damage his past had on him. Instead, he would imprint the bad answers to those issues onto others, such as little Bojack.

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* AntiRoleModel: To Bojack [=BoJack=] and others. While he was an admired figure to his fans, Secretariat's upbringing made it impossible for him to diverge from the damage his past had on him. Instead, he would imprint the bad answers to those issues onto others, such as little Bojack.[=BoJack=].



* BrokenPedestal: To the rest of the world once his illegal betting was discovered, and eventually to Bojack as well. As much as he admires him, even the horse starts to realize what an utter train wreck his hero was. That being said, he still looks up to him while acknowledging him as flawed, with the Lighter and Softer approach of his story in the Biopic being one of Bojack's major complaints about it.

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* BrokenPedestal: To the rest of the world once his illegal betting was discovered, and eventually to Bojack [=BoJack=] as well. As much as he admires him, even the horse starts to realize what an utter train wreck his hero was. That being said, he still looks up to him while acknowledging him as flawed, with the Lighter and Softer approach of his story in the Biopic being one of Bojack's [=BoJack=]'s major complaints about it.



* CloseToHome: Why he ends up answering Bojack's letter: he identifies with him because of their similar backgrounds and insecurities. Unfortunately, the advice he gives him is [[NotQuiteTheRightThing not exactly helpful in the long run.]]

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* CloseToHome: Why he ends up answering Bojack's [=BoJack=]'s letter: he identifies with him because of their similar backgrounds and insecurities. Unfortunately, the advice he gives him is [[NotQuiteTheRightThing not exactly helpful in the long run.]]



* DarkAndTroubledPast: {{Implied|Trope}} with his commentary of "not having had a happy childhood" in response to a fan letter sent by Bojack in [[TheSeventies 1973]].

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* DarkAndTroubledPast: {{Implied|Trope}} with his commentary of "not having had a happy childhood" in response to a fan letter sent by Bojack [=BoJack=] in [[TheSeventies 1973]].



* DirtyCoward: His advice to Bojack boiled down to "run away from your problems and your mistakes instead of facing them". He also sent his brother to Vietnam instead of going himself, because he cared more about himself than his brother's life.

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* DirtyCoward: His advice to Bojack [=BoJack=] boiled down to "run away from your problems and your mistakes instead of facing them". He also sent his brother to Vietnam instead of going himself, because he cared more about himself than his brother's life.



* HistoryRepeats: Hmmm, a seemingly collected celebrity who has it all and deep down is a BrokenBird with ParentalIssues, a DarkAndTroubledPast and a pretty bad case of [[{{Narcissist}} Narcissism]]. Are we talking about Secretariat or [[Characters/BojackHorsemanBojackHorseman BoJack]]?

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* HistoryRepeats: Hmmm, a seemingly collected celebrity who has it all and deep down is a BrokenBird with ParentalIssues, a DarkAndTroubledPast and a pretty bad case of [[{{Narcissist}} Narcissism]]. Are we talking about Secretariat or [[Characters/BojackHorsemanBojackHorseman BoJack]]?[=BoJack=]]]?



* HopeSpot: Although Princess Carolyn stresses out over having trouble getting pregnant throughout the story, Ruthie, her great great great grand daughter, is telling it, so we know everything will work out in the end. [[spoiler:Except it doesn't. It's revealed PC may never be able to have any kids, and Ruthie was just a fantasy she was having.]]

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* HopeSpot: Although Princess Carolyn stresses out over having trouble getting pregnant throughout the story, Ruthie, her great great great grand daughter, granddaughter, is telling it, so we know everything will work out in the end. [[spoiler:Except it doesn't. It's revealed PC may never be able to have any kids, and Ruthie was just a fantasy she was having.]]
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* BerserkButton: He gets pretty pissed off when [[spoiler:[=BoJack=] tricks him into flying again, due to the [[FreudianExcuse bad memories he has of this experience]]. See InterruptedSuicide below.]]
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* {{Foil}}: To his SpiritualSuccessor, [=BoJack=]. Both came from really shitty conditions to become famous superstars in horse racing and acting, respectively. Like [=BoJack=], Secretariat has done a lot of sacrifices for his career, including leaving a loved one out to dry: in Secretariat's case, getting his brother Jeff drafted to 'Nam in his place; [=BoJack=]'s, selling out his mentor Herb for a chance at playing Secretariat, ironically and both are constantly haunted and feeling incomplete about their lives. The only difference is that while Secretariat allowed his fears and failures to consume him, [=BoJack=] has constantly bounced and learned from his while continuing walking in an uncertain road.

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* {{Foil}}: To his SpiritualSuccessor, spiritual successor, [=BoJack=]. Both came from really shitty conditions to become famous superstars in horse racing and acting, respectively. Like [=BoJack=], Secretariat has done a lot of sacrifices for his career, including leaving a loved one out to dry: in Secretariat's case, getting his brother Jeff drafted to 'Nam in his place; [=BoJack=]'s, selling out his mentor Herb for a chance at playing Secretariat, ironically and both are constantly haunted and feeling incomplete about their lives. The only difference is that while Secretariat allowed his fears and failures to consume him, [=BoJack=] has constantly bounced and learned from his while continuing walking in an uncertain road.
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* CumbersomeClaws: After he severely injures his hands, he can only get them replaced with lobster claws (after an unsuccessful attempt with gorilla feet), which makes life more difficult and lowers his approval ratings.
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* AwesomeUnderwaterWorld The entirety of [[Recap/BojackHorsemanS3E04FishOutOfWater "Fish Out Of Water"]] takes place in Pacific Ocean City and it's one of the most beautifully animated episodes of the series.

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* AwesomeUnderwaterWorld AwesomeUnderwaterWorld: The entirety of [[Recap/BojackHorsemanS3E04FishOutOfWater "Fish Out Of Water"]] takes place in Pacific Ocean City and it's one of the most beautifully animated episodes of the series.



* FishPeople: It's an underwater city, so ''yeah''.

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* %%* FishPeople: It's an underwater city, so ''yeah''.
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* AtlantisIsBoring: {{Averted|Trope}}. The entirety of [[Recap/BojackHorsemanS3E04FishOutOfWater "Fish Out Of Water"]] takes place in Pacific Ocean City and it's one of the most [[SugarWiki/AwesomeArt beautifully animated episodes of the series]].

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* AtlantisIsBoring: {{Averted|Trope}}. AwesomeUnderwaterWorld The entirety of [[Recap/BojackHorsemanS3E04FishOutOfWater "Fish Out Of Water"]] takes place in Pacific Ocean City and it's one of the most [[SugarWiki/AwesomeArt beautifully animated episodes of the series]].series.
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* AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent: One of the rare episodes that take place outside Hollywoo.
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* IllBoy: Is seen coughing a lot, and being in a war-torn third world country there's a lot of infections he could've picked up.
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* AboutTheAuthor: Variation, mixed with CharacterShilling. Princess Carolyn mentions that she's the critical darling of New York critics.
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* YouGottaHaveBlueHair: She has pink hair.
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* PowerDynamcsKink: In a flashback, she has a sexual relationship with the acclaimed television writer Cuddlywhiskers. Jill disobeys his orders by as throwing his bottled water on the floor, Cuddlywhiskers yells at her, and Jill boasts about how she's a "dirty girl" and implores Cuddlywhiskers to come to the bedroom and "punish" her.

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* PowerDynamcsKink: PowerDynamicsKink: In a flashback, she has a sexual relationship with the acclaimed television writer Cuddlywhiskers. Jill disobeys his orders by as throwing his bottled water on the floor, Cuddlywhiskers yells at her, and Jill boasts about how she's a "dirty girl" and implores Cuddlywhiskers to come to the bedroom and "punish" her.
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* PowerDynamcsKink: In a flashback, she has a sexual relationship with the acclaimed television writer Cuddlywhiskers. Jill disobeys his orders by as throwing his bottled water on the floor, Cuddlywhiskers yells at her, and Jill boasts about how she's a "dirty girl" and implores Cuddlywhiskers to come to the bedroom and "punish" her.
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* ExtraEyes: Eight eyes to be precise. {{Justified}} due to being a spider.

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* ExtraEyes: Eight eyes to be precise. {{Justified}} {{Justified|Trope}} due to being a spider.
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* HistoryRepeats: Hmmm, a seemingly collected celebrity who has it all and deep down is a BrokenBird with ParentalIssues, a DarkAndTroubledPast and a pretty bad case of [[{{Narcissist}} Narcissism]]. Are we talking about Secretariat or [[Characters/BojackHorsemanMainCharacters BoJack]]?

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* HistoryRepeats: Hmmm, a seemingly collected celebrity who has it all and deep down is a BrokenBird with ParentalIssues, a DarkAndTroubledPast and a pretty bad case of [[{{Narcissist}} Narcissism]]. Are we talking about Secretariat or [[Characters/BojackHorsemanMainCharacters [[Characters/BojackHorsemanBojackHorseman BoJack]]?
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* ApologizesALot: He can't let one screw-up go without apologizing many times. And he can't screwing up either. Beatrice often pretends not to notice but she's kind of amused and irritated by his enforced politeness.

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* ApologizesALot: He can't let one screw-up go without apologizing many times. And he can't keep himself from screwing up either. Beatrice often pretends not to notice but she's kind of amused and irritated by his enforced politeness.
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* AllegoricalCharacter: Corbin was the heir of Creamerman Cream-based Commodities, makers of daily products including ice-cream, a dessert Beatrice was never allowed to have. During their short courtship, Corbin struggled with getting through Beatrice, who remained ambivalent toward him until the end where she discovered his HiddenDepths, which did attract and interest her. After getting pregnant and losing her wealth, one of Beatrice's bigger regrets, not marrying Corbin, is linked to ice-cream: one of the many sweet things in life she was never allowed to taste.

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* AllegoricalCharacter: Corbin was the heir of Creamerman Cream-based Commodities, makers of daily products including ice-cream, a dessert Beatrice was never allowed to have. During their short courtship, Corbin struggled with getting through to Beatrice, who remained ambivalent toward him until the end where she discovered his HiddenDepths, which did attract and interest her. After getting pregnant and losing her wealth, one of Beatrice's bigger regrets, not marrying Corbin, is linked to ice-cream: one of the many sweet things in life she was never allowed to taste.

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* FoulWaterfowl: An AlphaBitch goose that bullied Beatrice when they were young. When Beatrice tries to climb up to a slide, Clemelia stomps on and bites her fingers so she falls off. She's still extremely condescending to Beatrice as an adult.



* {{Narcissist}}: A classic example. Clemelia's selfish and concerned primarily with herself. Any relationships she has are based on people who admire her (sycophants), people who can get her the things she wants (pretenders) or people she hates (Beatrice). Anything not related to those three categories (or herself, for that matter) doesn't blip in her radar.

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* {{Narcissist}}: A classic example. Clemelia's selfish and concerned primarily with herself. Any relationships she has are based on people who admire her (sycophants), people who can get her the things she wants (pretenders) or people she hates (Beatrice). Anything not related to those three categories (or herself, her
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* AmazonChaser: {{Downplayed|Trope}}. Corbin liked Beatrice for being strong-minded and independent, virtues he thought he lacked and had nothing to do with her body. Still, it's hard to deny that a stubborn, coal-brazen fierce mare like Beatrice wasn't attractive to squeamish Corbin.

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* AmazonChaser: {{Downplayed|Trope}}. Corbin liked Beatrice for being strong-minded and independent, virtues he thought he lacked and had nothing to do with her body. Still, it's hard to deny that a stubborn, coal-brazen fierce mare like Beatrice wasn't attractive to squeamish Corbin.



* MasculineGirlFeminineBoy: Corbin was sensitive, soft-spoken and a male ShrinkingViolet with klutzy tendencies and a poor posture which often made him look emasculated and spineless; Beatrice on the other hand was confident, sassy, irreverent, willing to push for what she wants and had a great "spirited girl" routine where she smiled like an angelic lady and screamed about how boring high class was.
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* UnreliableExpositor: [[spoiler: When recalling to Hollyhock about the incident involving him and [=BoJack=], he explains to her that he "practically forced" him and Maddy to drink alcohol. That is, despite the fact that he was actually all in on him buying him and Maddie the booze for them to drink. Though it's possible that this is how he actually remembers it]].

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* GoingForTheBigScoop: She encourages Diane to get Nicole, Hank's current assistant, on the record discussing what it was like to work under him.



* {{Hypocrite}}: She tells Diane women shouldn't have to fear talking out of turn and not being pretty little housewives, and yet she fires her staff for their less than flattering attire.



* GoingForTheBigScoop: She encourages Diane to get Nicole, Hank's current assistant, on the record discussing what it was like to work under him.



* {{Hypocrite}}: She tells Diane women shouldn't have to fear talking out of turn and not being pretty little housewives, and yet she fires her staff for their less than flattering attire.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: While he is a textbook example of narcissism, he does make a solid point to Diane that grieving over the dead won't help them or the living, and his detachment ensures that he's always operational despite whatever horrors come his way.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: While he is a textbook example of narcissism, he does make a solid point to Diane that grieving over the dead won't help them or the living, and his detachment ensures that he's always operational despite whatever horrors come his way. Diane proves his point further by quitting on the book and flying home with bad PTSD.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Yes he's a jerk, a {{Narcissist}} and a GloryHound, but he reacted better to Diane quitting on him than [=BoJack=] did when he read the first draft of ''One Trick Pony''. The whole time that they talk in Cordovia, he is quite honest about the fact that he detaches himself and doesn't befriend the refugees because he sees them die every day, and hardening his heart allows him to stay and build the hospitals they need. What's more, he tells Diane that he understands if she can't handle what's going on because he can tell that Kinko's death traumatized her, and won't hold it against her if she needs to go home. She does try to tough it out but returns back to Los Angeles.



* KickTheDog: She harshly breaks it to Diane that she can't publish the latter's expose on Hank Hippopopalous because it won't sell magazines and Manatee Fair and MBN are sister companies, despite previously wanting to work alongside her.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Diane has a hard time refuting the fact that Amanda was willing to publish the expose if they had a source and evidence. When they find out that Hank used Nicole to threaten Diane into dropping the story, Amanda says that without any evidence, publishing the story would be hearsay and invite lawsuits. Diane is forced to agree almost immediately, even while noting that Hank's parent-company owns the Manatee Fair.
* KickTheDog: She harshly breaks it to Diane that she can't publish the latter's expose on Hank Hippopopalous because it won't sell magazines and Manatee Fair and MBN are sister companies, despite previously wanting to work alongside her. To a lesser extent, it's that Diane doesn't have proof.
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* WaterIsAir: {{Zigzagged|Trope}} ''mercilessly'', mostly for the sake of jokes. Land-dwellers need special helmets to breathe in the underwater city. However, we see walruses and other such sea animals that actually ''need'' air doing totally fine without them. In the spirit of this trope, citizens walk and drive along the sea floor instead of swimming or floating (they also walk normally without any extra effort), yet, Bojack realizes soon enough that he actually ''can'' swim, something he takes advantage of to escape safely through a window several stories above the floor. Made even more hilarious by the fact that his pursuers, ''actual fish'', make no effort to swim after him, instead standing there shaking their fists. Printed media and pens seem to be a thing down there as well, but the ''moment'' Bojack tries to communicate with Kelsey through a heartfelt, hand-written letter, the ink ''[[RealityEnsues washes away]]''. This trope seems to be averted and played straight as the story demands, ''and it's perfect''.

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* WaterIsAir: {{Zigzagged|Trope}} ''mercilessly'', mostly for the sake of jokes. Land-dwellers need special helmets to breathe in the underwater city. However, we see walruses and other such sea animals that actually ''need'' air doing totally fine without them. In the spirit of this trope, citizens walk and drive along the sea floor instead of swimming or floating (they also walk normally without any extra effort), yet, Bojack realizes soon enough that he actually ''can'' swim, something he takes advantage of to escape safely through a window several stories above the floor. Made even more hilarious by the fact that his pursuers, ''actual fish'', make no effort to swim after him, instead standing there shaking their fists. Printed media and pens seem to be a thing down there as well, but the ''moment'' Bojack tries to communicate with Kelsey through a heartfelt, hand-written letter, the ink ''[[RealityEnsues ''[[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome washes away]]''. This trope seems to be averted and played straight as the story demands, ''and it's perfect''.

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* AbhorrentAdmirer: An awkward, nervous, homely and boring dweeb of a goat, Corbin was obviously smitten with Beatrice but clearly didn't represent Beatrice's idea of someone who would make pleasant small talk, much less someone she'd consider marrying. It didn't help that their possible engagement was endorsed and expected by her father Joseph, who never took her happiness in consideration and saw it more as a strategic union with Creamerman Cream-based Commodities. All of this was part of what drew her to the more rugged, [[IncrediblyLamePun studly]] Butterscotch Horseman. [[spoiler: After realizing their CommonalityConnection and their NotSoDifferent situations, Beatrice was ''just'' starting to come around to Corbin when she learned she was pregnant with [=BoJack=], ruining any chance she had of marrying him.]]

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* AbhorrentAdmirer: An awkward, nervous, homely and boring dweeb of a goat, Corbin was obviously smitten with Beatrice but clearly didn't represent Beatrice's idea of someone who would make pleasant small talk, much less someone she'd consider marrying. It didn't help that their possible engagement was endorsed and expected by her father Joseph, who never took her happiness in consideration and saw it more as a strategic union with Creamerman Cream-based Commodities. All of this was part of what drew her to the more rugged, [[IncrediblyLamePun studly]] Butterscotch Horseman. [[spoiler: After realizing their CommonalityConnection and their NotSoDifferent similar situations, Beatrice was ''just'' starting to come around to Corbin when she learned she was pregnant with [=BoJack=], ruining any chance she had of marrying him.]]



* NotSoDifferent: Surprisingly to Beatrice. Like her he has similar issues with his father about wanting to be more than what his dad expects him to be.

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* MoralDilemma: While what happened to Maddy was an accident, he doesn't take well that he has to lie just to cover Bojack's back and responsibility in the incident. He hesitates until Bojack convinces him.



* ToBeLawfulOrGood: While what happened to Maddy was an accident, he doesn't take well that he has to lie just to cover Bojack's back and responsibility in the incident. He hesitates until Bojack convinces him.



* MoralDilemma: While what happened to Maddy was an accident, Pete doesn't take well that he is forced to lie just to cover Bojack's back and responsibility in the incident, as well as stay to see if she'll be okay. Even worse, the first option was leaving her at the entrance.



* ToBeLawfulOrGood: While what happened to Maddy was an accident, Pete doesn't take well that he is forced to lie just to cover Bojack's back and responsibility in the incident, as well as stay to see if she'll be okay. Even worse, the first option was leaving her at the entrance.



* WhatYouAreInTheDark: His proposition to Secretariat poses a difficult MoralDilemma for him, one which he loses by accepting, setting off a chain of events leading to his demise.

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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: His proposition to Secretariat poses a difficult MoralDilemma Moral Dilemma for him, one which he loses by accepting, setting off a chain of events leading to his demise.

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