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** After the release of the new album, this was totally averted, since critics and fans alike found Black Gives Way to Blue to be truly an [[AwesomeMusic amazing]] comeback album, given its flawless production and the music being loyal to their old nineties sound. As for William Duval, again, the vast majority agreed that he fits very well with the band, besides being a more than competent frontman and musician, up to the point most fans have accepted [[EarnYourHappyEnding he stood on for himself, and don't see him as a replacement, but a different and good musician on his own]].

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** After the release of the new album, this it seems like it was totally averted, since critics and fans alike found Black Gives Way to Blue to be truly an [[AwesomeMusic amazing]] comeback album, given its flawless production and the music being loyal to their old nineties sound. As for William Duval, again, the vast majority agreed that he fits very well with the band, besides being a more than competent frontman and musician, up to the point most fans have accepted [[EarnYourHappyEnding he stood on for himself, and don't see him as a replacement, but a different and good musician on his own]].
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** After the release of the new album, this was totally averted, since critics and fans alike found Black Gives Way to Blue to be truly an [[AwesomeMusic amazing]] comeback album, given its almost perfect production and the music being loyal to their old nineties sound. As for William Duval, again, the vast majority agreed that he fits very well with the band, besides being a more than competent frontman and musician, up to the point most fans have accepted he stood on for himself [[EarnYourHappyEnding and don't see him as a replacement, but a different and good musician on his own]]

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** After the release of the new album, this was totally averted, since critics and fans alike found Black Gives Way to Blue to be truly an [[AwesomeMusic amazing]] comeback album, given its almost perfect flawless production and the music being loyal to their old nineties sound. As for William Duval, again, the vast majority agreed that he fits very well with the band, besides being a more than competent frontman and musician, up to the point most fans have accepted he stood on for himself [[EarnYourHappyEnding he stood on for himself, and don't see him as a replacement, but a different and good musician on his own]]own]].

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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: [[NewSoundAlbum A new era in the band's sound]] by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth, [[JumpingTheShark leading the songs to have no real structure whatsoever]]?

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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: [[NewSoundAlbum A new era in the band's sound]] by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist musician on earth, [[JumpingTheShark leading the songs to have no real structure whatsoever]]?


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** After the release of the new album, this was totally averted, since critics and fans alike found Black Gives Way to Blue to be truly an [[AwesomeMusic amazing]] comeback album, given its almost perfect production and the music being loyal to their old nineties sound. As for William Duval, again, the vast majority agreed that he fits very well with the band, besides being a more than competent frontman and musician, up to the point most fans have accepted he stood on for himself [[EarnYourHappyEnding and don't see him as a replacement, but a different and good musician on his own]]
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** The debate is more of the likes that, if a band who's more than 20 years old and broke up abruptly, coming back without ''80% of the original lineup'' (a weird case of "The Face Minus The Band") and releasing an album stuck in DevelopmentHell during 14 years that was [[SoOkayItsAverage utterly irrelevant]] at its best, is worth of any kind of attention nowadays, due to their past-time status of "''Heavy Metal Saviors''".
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*** AmericanIdiot in a nutshell is a case of {{YMMV}} when bringing the "return to past form" topic, even when comparing to the first records, because the band never made any ballad (like ''Boulevard of Broken Dreams'' and ''Wake me Up when September ends'') during their [=39/Smooth=]/Dookie era, and their longest song, somehow faithful to old school punk music, was barely behind the 4 minute bar (Longview is 3:59).

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*** AmericanIdiot in a nutshell is a case of {{YMMV}} when bringing the "return to past form" topic, even when comparing to the first records, because the band never made any ballad (like ''Boulevard of Broken Dreams'' and ''Wake me Up when September ends'') during their [=39/Smooth=]/Dookie [=39/Smooth=]/Insomniac era, and their longest song, somehow faithful to old school punk music, was barely behind the 4 minute bar (Longview is 3:59).
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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: [[NewSoundAlbum A new era in the band's sound]] by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth, [[JumpingTheSharkleading the songs to have no real structure whatsoever]]?

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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: [[NewSoundAlbum A new era in the band's sound]] by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth, [[JumpingTheSharkleading [[JumpingTheShark leading the songs to have no real structure whatsoever]]?
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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: [[NewSoundAlbum A new era in the band's sound]] by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? [[JumpingTheShark Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top]] battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth?

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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: [[NewSoundAlbum A new era in the band's sound]] by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? [[JumpingTheShark Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top]] over-the-top battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth?earth, [[JumpingTheSharkleading the songs to have no real structure whatsoever]]?
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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: [[NewAlbumSound A new era in the band's sound]] by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? [[JumpingTheShark Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top]] battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth?

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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: [[NewAlbumSound [[NewSoundAlbum A new era in the band's sound]] by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? [[JumpingTheShark Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top]] battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth?
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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: A new era in the band's sound by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth?

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** Another topics prone to Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: [[NewAlbumSound A new era in the band's sound sound]] by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? [[JumpingTheShark Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top over-the-top]] battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth?
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** Another topics prone to FlameWars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: A new era in the band's sound by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth?

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** Another topics prone to FlameWars Flame Wars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: A new era in the band's sound by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth?

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*** Now there's the fans who supported Mike Portnoy's ejection from the band and think that the band was right to not let him rejoin (Despite the band lacking a drummer), and those who believe that Portnoy should be allowed back in.

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*** Now there's the fans who supported Mike Portnoy's ejection from the band and think that the band was right to not let him rejoin (Despite ([[FanDumb Despite the band lacking a drummer), drummer]]), and those who believe that Portnoy should be allowed back in.in.
** Another topics prone to FlameWars include: James [=LaBrie=] vs Charlie Dominicci. And the most overlooked and least fandumbish, but most well-argumented and heated debate: Music after Scenes From a Memory: A new era in the band's sound by emulating and adding their own style to classic 60's/70's experimental progressive rock? Or just a long-running, boring and over-the-top battle between John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess overwanking to their instruments in order to see who's the fastest instrumentist on earth?
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*** AmericanIdiot in a nutshell is a case of {{YMMV}} when bringing the "return to past form" topic, even when comparing to the first records, because the band never made any ballad (like ''Boulevard of Broken Dreams'' and ''Wake me Up when September ends'') during their [=39/Smooth=]/Dookie era, and their longest song, somehow faithful to old school punk music, was barely behind the 4 minute bar (Longview is 3:59).
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* LadyGaga's fanbase is beggining to divide over the fact that she has gotten to 'emo and creepy.'

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* LadyGaga's fanbase is beggining to divide over the fact that she has gotten to too 'emo and creepy.'
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**And like the above Janet example 80's Madonna vs 90's Madonna, vs the 00's Madonna.
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**Recently there's the fact that the ''other'' EnsembleDarkhorse (Krayzie Bone) was asked to leave. Wish Bone left with him and things just kept [[ItGotWorse going form bad to worse]] among the fans.
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* Kelli Ali was fired from the Sneaker Pimps after the group's first album and replaced with founding member Chris Corner. The argument continues even today as to whether the group was better with or without her.

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* Kelli Ali was fired from the Sneaker Pimps SneakerPimps after the group's first album and replaced with founding member Chris Corner. The argument continues even today as to whether the group was better with or without her.
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**As evidenced above, a lot of old-school fans dislike the new(er) sound, but most of the people who were exposed to Modest Mouse with Good News and We Were Dead liked it so much that they searched out the old albums and dug them too. So it's mostly a one-way break.
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** Anything involving Dave Mustaine counts, ''especially'' Metallica vs. {{Megadeth}}.
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* BobDylan should have been at the head of this list! Just start with the massive schizm over his going electric, and drill down from there.

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* BobDylan should have been at the head of this list! Just start with the massive schizm schism over his going electric, and drill down from there.
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* {{TupacShakur}} fans usually fight over which album showcased the ''[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation real]]'' Tupac. The albums in question are "Me Against the World" VS. "All Eyez on Me". Proponents of the first claim that the album is better than AEOM because of its depth and dark, introspective approach, while claiming that AEOM is just a typical mainstream rap album people jumped on the bandwagon for.

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* {{TupacShakur}} TupacShakur fans usually fight over which album showcased the ''[[AlternateCharacterInterpretation real]]'' Tupac. The albums in question are "Me Against the World" VS. "All Eyez on Me". Proponents of the first claim that the album is better than AEOM because of its depth and dark, introspective approach, while claiming that AEOM is just a typical mainstream rap album people jumped on the bandwagon for.
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** Invoked in the song ''Glenn Tipton'' by the group Sun Kil Moon.

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** The new singer got more and more popular when people started to go their shows and realised that she was far more entertaining and nicer than Tarja was.

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** The new singer got more and more popular when people started to go their shows and realised realized that she was far more entertaining and nicer than Tarja was.was.
** The above statement may or may not be true. Some fans didn't like Anette's rendition of older songs (most notably ''Wishmaster'') and complained that her on-stage performance was too 'pop' for the band. YMMV.
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*** Then again, there are some fans who like all 3 incarnations.
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** All [[DreamTeam supergroups]] seem to suffer from this to some extent. Go to any discussion about Stone Temple Pilots'' and mention the words "Velvet Revolver". [[InternetBackdraft It will get ugly]]. On the other hand, most [[GunsNRoses Guns N' Roses]] fans seem to have a more universally positive opinion on Velvet Revolver. STP fans are also torn on Scott Weiland's solo project.

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** All [[DreamTeam supergroups]] seem to suffer from this to some extent. Go to any discussion about Stone Temple Pilots'' and mention the words "Velvet Revolver". [[InternetBackdraft It will get ugly]]. On the other hand, most [[GunsNRoses Guns N' Roses]] {{ptitlewiz5pz1p}} fans seem to have a more universally positive opinion on Velvet Revolver. STP fans are also torn on Scott Weiland's solo project.
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* Did ModestMouse become better or worse when they signed onto a major label? Do you favor the early underground stuff straight from the jaws of LSD, or the later overblown monstrosities of their 2000's albums?
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** Green Day have had complaints from some of their older fans about ''most'' of their albums - Dookie marked the switch to a major label and had a comparatively polished production sound; Nimrod diluted the band's melodic punk-rock sound with more diverse influences and produced an acoustic ballad as a major single; Warning diversified further with the acoustic guitars gaining more ground. From a purely sonic point of view, you could almost argue that American Idiot is a return to past form.

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** Green Day have had complaints from some of their older fans about ''most'' of their albums - Dookie marked the switch to a major label and had a comparatively polished production sound; Nimrod diluted the band's melodic punk-rock sound with more diverse influences and produced an acoustic ballad as a major single; Warning diversified further with the acoustic guitars gaining more ground. From a purely sonic point of view, you could almost argue that American Idiot is was a return to past form.
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** Green Day have had complaints from someo of their older fans about ''most'' of their albums - Dookie marked the switch to a major label and had a comparatively polished production sound; Nimrod diluted the band's melodic punk-rock sound with more diverse influences and produced an acoustic ballad as a major single; Warning diversified further with the acoustic guitars gaining more ground, and with a markedly different style of lyrics to the earlier albums.

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** Green Day have had complaints from someo some of their older fans about ''most'' of their albums - Dookie marked the switch to a major label and had a comparatively polished production sound; Nimrod diluted the band's melodic punk-rock sound with more diverse influences and produced an acoustic ballad as a major single; Warning diversified further with the acoustic guitars gaining more ground, and with ground. From a markedly different style purely sonic point of lyrics view, you could almost argue that American Idiot is a return to the earlier albums.past form.
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** Green Day have had complaints from someo of their older fans about ''most'' of their albums - Dookie marked the switch to a major label and had a comparatively polished production sound; Nimrod diluted the band's melodic punk-rock sound with more diverse influences and produced an acoustic ballad as a major single; Warning diversified further with the acoustic guitars gaining more ground, and with a markedly different style of lyrics to the earlier albums.
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* AliciaKeys fanbase became broken when she started to experimenting with power pop ballads and made less pure R&B/Soul songs.

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* AliciaKeys fanbase became broken when she started to experimenting experiment with power pop ballads and made less pure R&B/Soul songs.

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* The Wildhearts' 1997 album Endless Nameless abandoned the band's traditional blend of loud guitars with big tunes and harmonies in favour of an experimental extreme-noise-rock sound. Band-related web forums enjoyed heated debate, as some fans insisted that the music was stronger than ever underneath the noise, while others expressed feelings ranging from indifference to outright betrayal. Only one or two songs from this album have had significant live exposure since 2000, despite the frontman having said several times on record that this album is his favourite, and all the band's subsequent albums have been much closer to the earlier sound.

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* The Wildhearts' 1997 album Endless Nameless abandoned the band's traditional blend of loud guitars with big tunes and harmonies in favour of an experimental extreme-noise-rock sound. Band-related web forums enjoyed heated debate, as some fans insisted that the music was stronger than ever underneath the noise, while others expressed feelings ranging from indifference to outright betrayal. Only one or two songs from this album have had significant live exposure since 2000, despite the frontman having said several times on record that this album is his favourite, favorite, and all the band's subsequent albums have been much closer to the earlier sound.



* ''Greatset hits'' albums vs ''The Best of..'' albums. Fans of the former think the later includes mostly filler while the "hits" record contains the cream of the crop. Fans of the latter think the former excludes a lot of fan favorites that weren't singles and consider Best Of collection to be more comprehensive. While considering the "Hits" album to be mostly "BlackSheepHit"..''The Album''.

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* ''Greatset hits'' albums vs ''The Best of..'' albums. Fans of the former think the later includes mostly filler while the "hits" record contains the cream of the crop. Fans of the latter think the former excludes a lot of fan favorites that weren't singles and consider Best Of "Best Of" collection to be more comprehensive. While considering the "Hits" album to be mostly "BlackSheepHit".."BlackSheepHit..''The Album''.Album''".
*AliciaKeys fanbase became broken when she started to experimenting with power pop ballads and made less pure R&B/Soul songs.
** This the case every time a urban artists tries to cross over...For better or for worse.

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