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17th Jul '17 10:29:18 PM Twentington
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* In the area of Norwegian folk music, Music/HardangerFiddle players are victims to this, and the broken base is actually OlderThanTheyThink. When one particular area in question has more than one capable fiddler (with or without legendary status), things can get ''nasty'' because the two fiddlers gather their own fans around them. When discussing which of them is most "genuine" or just the best performer, full on FlameWar ensues.

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* In the area of Norwegian folk music, Music/HardangerFiddle UsefulNotes/HardangerFiddle players are victims to this, and the broken base is actually OlderThanTheyThink. When one particular area in question has more than one capable fiddler (with or without legendary status), things can get ''nasty'' because the two fiddlers gather their own fans around them. When discussing which of them is most "genuine" or just the best performer, full on FlameWar ensues.
3rd Jul '17 6:01:19 AM WillBGood
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*** There is also the argument of whether [[strike:[[FanNickname Smell the Glove]]]] [[Music/TheBlackAlbum]] was the first sellout album or ''Load'' was.

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*** There is also the argument of whether [[strike:[[FanNickname Smell the Glove]]]] [[Music/TheBlackAlbum]] ''The Black Album'' was the first sellout album or ''Load'' was.
19th Jun '17 3:52:18 PM jormis29
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* Bette Midler's song "From A Distance". Is it a song that empowers and encourages hope deep within people no matter how bad the events in our society would get? Or is it preachy and pretentious drivel to the point that some people claim that it has a deist view of God?

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* Bette Midler's Music/BetteMidler's song "From A Distance". Is it a song that empowers and encourages hope deep within people no matter how bad the events in our society would get? Or is it preachy and pretentious drivel to the point that some people claim that it has a deist view of God?
8th Jun '17 4:02:47 AM HulkingChevon
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* Music/TheBeachBoys: To be a Beach Boys fan can mean many things. Some fan interest starts chronologically with Pet Sounds while some fans prefer their catchier early hits and don't have Pet Sounds or SMiLE on their radar at all. Such were the many distinct phases of the band, it's understandable.
31st May '17 6:48:28 AM Twentington
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* An example regarding the ''Billboard'' singles charts. In 2012, several genre airplay charts (such as Country) were split into two new charts: a chart using the existing method of tallying only single airplay, and a second one tallying downloads, streaming, and all-genre airplay of genre-specific songs (effectively making it a single-genre version of the Hot 100). Chart watchers in particular were incensed by this change, as many songs (especially in country) have had disproportionately long runs at #1 on the "new" chart due to strong downloads, leaving the country charts dominated by the likes of Music/FloridaGeorgiaLine, Music/LukeBryan, and Music/SamHunt -- thus leaving many chart watchers who prefer the "old" airplay-only chart as a more accurate gauge of what's popular. Meanwhile, the airplay-only chart has become increasingly prone to manipulation, thus undercutting ''its'' credibility as well.
29th May '17 9:04:27 AM Twentington
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** ''Jekyll + Hyde'', their fourth full length album, is rife with this. Some fans view it as an interesting experiment in GenreRoulette which pushed the band's sound in new and interesting directions; others feel it was an overdone mess. One of the biggest points of contention was the single "Beautiful Drug", which featured elements of EDM. Some found this song exciting for its new sound; others felt that it was rampant trend-chasing, particularly in the wake of other EDM-influenced country acts such as Music/SamHunt. It got to the point that the band actually sent out a remix that lessened the EDM elements.
** Conversely, the successor album ''Welcome Home''. Fans of the album view it as a "return to form" after ''Jekyll + Hyde''; others view it as being an overly-calculated "apology" for that album, given that the album is dominated by ballads, and that many of the songs and even the title seem to be stressing that Zac is still the same good ol' country boy he's always been.

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** ''Jekyll + Hyde'', their fourth full length album, is rife with this. Some fans view it as an interesting experiment in GenreRoulette which pushed the band's sound in new and interesting directions; others feel it was an overdone mess. One of the biggest points of contention was the single "Beautiful Drug", which featured elements of EDM. Some found this song exciting for its new sound; others felt that it was rampant trend-chasing, particularly in the wake of other EDM-influenced country acts such as Music/SamHunt. It got to the point that the band actually sent out a remix that lessened the EDM elements.
gave it a more country sound.
** Conversely, the successor album ''Welcome Home''. Fans of the album view it as a "return to form" after ''Jekyll + Hyde''; others view it as being an overly-calculated "apology" for that album, given that the album it is dominated by ballads, and that many of the songs and even the title seem to be stressing that Zac is still the same good ol' country boy he's always been.
19th May '17 7:40:20 AM ctempire
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* American listeners of a couple of ItaloDisco songs such as "Plastic Doll" by Dharma, "Not Love" by Trilogy, and "I Need Love" by Capricorn have argued over the best speed to play these songs. People from cities such as those in the east coast and notably UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}} enjoy listening at the slower but correct speed intended by the artists. People from southern UsefulNotes/{{California}} prefer the faster 45 rpm speed.

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* American listeners of Americans who listened to a couple of ItaloDisco songs before the internet age such as "Plastic Doll" by Dharma, "Not Love" by Trilogy, and "I Need Love" by Capricorn have argued over the best speed to play these songs. People from cities such as those in the east coast and notably UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}} enjoy listening at the slower but correct speed intended by the artists. People from southern UsefulNotes/{{California}} (and possibly the Hi-NRG locales) who heard these songs faster in parties prefer the faster 45 rpm speed.
18th May '17 6:38:53 PM Twentington
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* CountryMusic, definitely. Country music blogs and message boards are replete with lengthy arguments over what constitutes genuine country music, and if modern mainstream Nashville pop-country fits the definition.

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* CountryMusic, definitely. Country music blogs and message boards are replete with lengthy arguments over what constitutes genuine country music, and if modern mainstream Nashville pop-country fits the definition. This has only gotten stronger in TheNewTens as R&B, rap, and even EDM influences have invaded the genre, [[GenreAdultery even from established artists who rarely did so before]]. There are also the "alternative country" artists, whom many fans view as far more "authentic" than mainstream country, while fans of more mainstream acts view alternative country as pretentious and boring. Basically, someone who loves Music/FloridaGeorgiaLine or Music/LukeBryan is very unlikely to enjoy Jason Isbell or Sturgill Simpson, and vice-versa.
18th May '17 6:35:51 PM Twentington
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* Music/ZacBrownBand has this several times over:
** The mainstream country music fans can't get enough of the band's debut single "Chicken Fried" (it is hands-down their most downloaded song), but long-term fans seem to view it as their worst song, due to pandering, cliché lyrics about America and God, which seem far removed from the band's usual tropes.
** ''Jekyll + Hyde'', their fourth full length album, is rife with this. Some fans view it as an interesting experiment in GenreRoulette which pushed the band's sound in new and interesting directions; others feel it was an overdone mess. One of the biggest points of contention was the single "Beautiful Drug", which featured elements of EDM. Some found this song exciting for its new sound; others felt that it was rampant trend-chasing, particularly in the wake of other EDM-influenced country acts such as Music/SamHunt. It got to the point that the band actually sent out a remix that lessened the EDM elements.
** Conversely, the successor album ''Welcome Home''. Fans of the album view it as a "return to form" after ''Jekyll + Hyde''; others view it as being an overly-calculated "apology" for that album, given that the album is dominated by ballads, and that many of the songs and even the title seem to be stressing that Zac is still the same good ol' country boy he's always been.
6th Jan '17 9:24:47 AM Morgenthaler
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** Each of these hip-hop sub-fanbases have their own splinter groups, and even at its simplest level, you actually have a gigantic seething mass of cliques: something along the lines of "Golden Age" purists (fans of late '80s/early '90s rap; typically East Coast with some token Ice Cube or Too $hort appreciation), indie/alternative (or the semi-pejorative "undie") rap fans who lean towards some of the more avant-garde acts like Madlib, POS and El-P, several strata of Southern rap fans pitting coke-rap boosters (often accused of being indie hipster kids) vs. snap/trap/crunk club-rap fans (see: Soulja Boy/"ringtone rap") vs. Dungeon Family (OutKast/Goodie Mob/et al), West Coast adherents (which can potentially be split into classic g-funk vs. hyphy arguments), the cooled yet still potentially volatile Jay-Z vs. Nas camps... and god help you if you actually like grime or dubstep or electro or some other (usually non-American) genre offshoot.

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** Each of these hip-hop sub-fanbases have their own splinter groups, and even at its simplest level, you actually have a gigantic seething mass of cliques: something along the lines of "Golden Age" purists (fans of late '80s/early '90s rap; typically East Coast with some token Ice Cube or Too $hort appreciation), indie/alternative (or the semi-pejorative "undie") rap fans who lean towards some of the more avant-garde acts like Madlib, POS and El-P, several strata of Southern rap fans pitting coke-rap boosters (often accused of being indie hipster kids) vs. snap/trap/crunk club-rap fans (see: Soulja Boy/"ringtone rap") vs. Dungeon Family (OutKast/Goodie (Music/OutKast/Goodie Mob/et al), West Coast adherents (which can potentially be split into classic g-funk vs. hyphy arguments), the cooled yet still potentially volatile Jay-Z vs. Nas camps... and god help you if you actually like grime or dubstep or electro or some other (usually non-American) genre offshoot.
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