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* The original ''{{V}}'' took this up to EvilIsSexy levels with earnest blonde Resistance leader Julie (Faye Grant) and gerbil-swallowing brunette vamp Visitor leader Diana (Jane Badler).

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* The original ''{{V}}'' ''{{V|1983}}'' took this up to EvilIsSexy levels with earnest blonde Resistance leader Julie (Faye Grant) and gerbil-swallowing brunette vamp Visitor leader Diana (Jane Badler).
7th May '16 1:34:46 PM nombretomado
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* In ''MySoCalledLife'', Brian Krakow is the love-struck, blonde boy next door (Betty). The protagonist Angela Chase (Archie) just can't see him because she's too busy lusting after bad boy Jordan Catalano (Veronica). Luckily, Brian and Jordan are ColorCodedCharacters.
** Given ''[[MySoCalledLife MSCL's]]'' unusual complexity (for a teen show), there was another, even more subtle one with Brian himself, with [[ControlFreak Sharon]] as Betty and [[TroubledButCute Rayanne]] as Veronica. This essentially went nowhere as Sharon already has a love interest and Rayanne is a little too complicated for Brian to handle.

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* In ''MySoCalledLife'', ''Series/MySoCalledLife'', Brian Krakow is the love-struck, blonde boy next door (Betty). The protagonist Angela Chase (Archie) just can't see him because she's too busy lusting after bad boy Jordan Catalano (Veronica). Luckily, Brian and Jordan are ColorCodedCharacters.
** Given ''[[MySoCalledLife MSCL's]]'' ''MSCL'''s unusual complexity (for a teen show), there was another, even more subtle one with Brian himself, with [[ControlFreak Sharon]] as Betty and [[TroubledButCute Rayanne]] as Veronica. This essentially went nowhere as Sharon already has a love interest and Rayanne is a little too complicated for Brian to handle.



* ''GilmoreGirls'' lives on this trope, with Rory playing Archie to the following Betty vs Veronica dyanmics:
** First, its [[{{NiceGuy}} Dean]] vs [[{{RichSuitorPoorSuitor}} rich jerk Tristan]]. Second, its Dean vs [[{{AllGirlsWantBadBoys}} Jess]], a bad boy intellectual. Third at College, its [[{{NiceGuy}} Marty]] vs new [[{{RichSuitorPoorSuitor}} rich jerk Logan]]. Finally, Jess returns, for ''reformed'' Jess vs Logan.

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* ''GilmoreGirls'' ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' lives on this trope, with Rory playing Archie to the following Betty vs Veronica dyanmics:
** First, its [[{{NiceGuy}} it's [[NiceGuy Dean]] vs [[{{RichSuitorPoorSuitor}} [[RichSuitorPoorSuitor rich jerk Tristan]]. Second, its it's Dean vs [[{{AllGirlsWantBadBoys}} [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys Jess]], a bad boy intellectual. Third at College, its [[{{NiceGuy}} it's [[NiceGuy Marty]] vs new [[{{RichSuitorPoorSuitor}} [[RichSuitorPoorSuitor rich jerk Logan]]. Finally, Jess returns, for ''reformed'' Jess vs Logan.



* ''{{Grimm}}'': Looks like Rosalee will become Monroe's Betty while Angelina is clearly his Veronica.

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* ''{{Grimm}}'': ''Series/{{Grimm}}'': Looks like Rosalee will become Monroe's Betty while Angelina is clearly his Veronica.



* The third season of ''{{Friends}}'' has Ross choosing between Rachel (Betty) and Bonnie (Veronica). They're both blonde, but the trope still applies as Rachel was his best friend, on-again-off-again ex-girlfriend and the woman he'd been in love with since his teenage years and Bonnie was the exotic hypersexual newcomer. Subverted in an early episode where Phoebe has to choose between a bulky fireman and a sweet schoolteacher, only to find out both of them were both athletic ''and'' sensitive (i.e. not too different after all).

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* The third season of ''{{Friends}}'' ''Series/{{Friends}}'' has Ross choosing between Rachel (Betty) and Bonnie (Veronica). They're both blonde, but the trope still applies as Rachel was his best friend, on-again-off-again ex-girlfriend and the woman he'd been in love with since his teenage years and Bonnie was the exotic hypersexual newcomer. Subverted in an early episode where Phoebe has to choose between a bulky fireman and a sweet schoolteacher, only to find out both of them were both athletic ''and'' sensitive (i.e. not too different after all).



** Season 6 has Monica (Archie) choosing between self-doubting, long-time best friend [[{{DeadpanSnarker}} Chandler]] and sophisticated, ex-boyfriend [[{{AlwaysSomeoneBetter}} Richard]]. Apperance wise, its fits, as Richard is TallDarkAndHandsome and Chandler is fairer haired and not considered very attractive. [[spoiler: Monica still picks him]].
* A gay example, in an episode of ''UglyBetty'' ("A League of Their Own"): Marc St James meets Cliff who he clicks with but asks a nameless (very hunky) model out instead, before being confronted by Cliff who was trying to ask him out.

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** Season 6 has Monica (Archie) choosing between self-doubting, long-time best friend [[{{DeadpanSnarker}} [[DeadpanSnarker Chandler]] and sophisticated, ex-boyfriend [[{{AlwaysSomeoneBetter}} [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter Richard]]. Apperance wise, its fits, as Richard is TallDarkAndHandsome and Chandler is fairer haired and not considered very attractive. [[spoiler: Monica still picks him]].
* A gay example, in an episode of ''UglyBetty'' ''Series/UglyBetty'' ("A League of Their Own"): Marc St James meets Cliff who he clicks with but asks a nameless (very hunky) model out instead, before being confronted by Cliff who was trying to ask him out.



* ''PrivatePractice'' has also used this often, most obviously with Violet as the Betty, Charlotte as the Veronica, and Cooper as the Archie.
* ''OneTreeHill'' has a similar situation among three of the main characters. Lucas(Archie) continues to flip between Peyton(Betty) and her best friend Brooke (Veronica).

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* ''PrivatePractice'' ''Series/PrivatePractice'' has also used this often, most obviously with Violet as the Betty, Charlotte as the Veronica, and Cooper as the Archie.
* ''OneTreeHill'' ''Series/OneTreeHill'' has a similar situation among three of the main characters. Lucas(Archie) continues to flip between Peyton(Betty) and her best friend Brooke (Veronica).



* On ''TheWestWing'', Josh Lyman's assistant Donna (Betty) falls for him, while Josh (Archie) falls for political loose cannon Amy Gardner(Veronica). However, Josh is also a clueless GeniusDitz who has no idea that Donna is in love with him and is in denial about his own feelings, so he has absolutely no reservations about courting Amy, thereby making poor Donna's plight even worse.

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* On ''TheWestWing'', ''Series/TheWestWing'', Josh Lyman's assistant Donna (Betty) falls for him, while Josh (Archie) falls for political loose cannon Amy Gardner(Veronica). However, Josh is also a clueless GeniusDitz who has no idea that Donna is in love with him and is in denial about his own feelings, so he has absolutely no reservations about courting Amy, thereby making poor Donna's plight even worse.



** However, this is soon overshadowed by a non-gender-switched but an unusual version, with Clark feeling attraction to both Chloe and Lana. At first glance, Chloe dresses less modestly, Lana is the literal GirlNextDoor [[spoiler:and Chloe lost her virginity when she was 15 while Lana remains chaste before Clark]], so Chloe is more like Veronica and Lana more like Betty, but after some time it is clear that it isn't that simple. Lana is often described as the prettiest girl in school (being a part-Chinese adds to the exotic bit); Chloe has the first relationship with Clark; Chloe is deeply attacted to Clark while Lana is ambiguous and more difficult to get to; Chloe/Clark is natural being JustFriends (with her often being a help to AFriendInNeed, even offering advice for Clark to chase after Lana a few times before and [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy after]] she admits that she likes him too), Clark (at first) only has his eyes for Lana and is completely ObliviousToLove from Chloe, Lana is the unattainable one (at first) while Chloe is dying for his attention, and so on.

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** However, this is soon overshadowed by a non-gender-switched but an unusual version, with Clark feeling attraction to both Chloe and Lana. At first glance, Chloe dresses less modestly, Lana is the literal GirlNextDoor [[spoiler:and Chloe lost her virginity when she was 15 while Lana remains chaste before Clark]], so Chloe is more like Veronica and Lana more like Betty, but after some time it is clear that it isn't that simple. Lana is often described as the prettiest girl in school (being a part-Chinese adds to the exotic bit); Chloe has the first relationship with Clark; Chloe is deeply attacted attracted to Clark while Lana is ambiguous and more difficult to get to; Chloe/Clark is natural being JustFriends (with her often being a help to AFriendInNeed, even offering advice for Clark to chase after Lana a few times before and [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy after]] she admits that she likes him too), Clark (at first) only has his eyes for Lana and is completely ObliviousToLove from Chloe, Lana is the unattainable one (at first) while Chloe is dying for his attention, and so on.



* Lampshaded in an episode of ''{{Neighbours}}'', when Donna is working through her feelings for Ringo (Betty) and Andrew (Veronica). She and Kate mention several examples of this kind of triangle, including [[Series/GossipGirl Blair, Nate and Chuck]], [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy, Riley and Angel]], and [[ArchieComics Archie, Betty and Veronica]]. Amusingly, Kate doesn't recognise the last one.

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* Lampshaded in an episode of ''{{Neighbours}}'', ''Series/{{Neighbours}}'', when Donna is working through her feelings for Ringo (Betty) and Andrew (Veronica). She and Kate mention several examples of this kind of triangle, including [[Series/GossipGirl Blair, Nate and Chuck]], [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy, Riley and Angel]], and [[ArchieComics Archie, Betty and Veronica]]. Amusingly, Kate doesn't recognise the last one.



* In the teen drama ''TheVampireDiaries'', there are quite a few love triangles. The main triangle is the one between the heroine Elena, the hero Stefan and the anti-hero Damon. Stefan and Damon are also brothers. In this scenario, Elena (Archie) is torn between her soulmate Stefan (Betty) and her unpredictable, wild friend Damon (Veronica). There's also numerous other love triangles which include Katherine (Archie), Stefan (Betty) and Damon (Veronica), Elena (Archie), Matt (Betty) and Stefan (Veronica), Stefan (Archie), Elena (Betty) and Katherine (Veronica), Stefan (Archie), Elena (Betty), and Caroline (Veronica), Caroline (Archie), Matt (Betty), and Tyler (Veronica), Caroline (Archie), Tyler (Betty), and Klaus (Veronica), Stefan (Archie), Elena (Betty), and Rebekah (Veronica), Jeremy (Archie), Bonnie (Betty), and Anna (Veronica), Bonnie (Archie), Jeremy (Betty), and Luka (Veronica), Bonnie (Archie), Jeremy (Betty), and Jamie (Veronica), Vickie (Archie), Jeremy (Betty), and Tyler (Veronica), Tatia (Archie), Elijah (Betty), and Klaus (Veronica) and the most tragic one of all, Silas (Archie), Amara (Betty) and Qetsiyah (Veronica).

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* In the teen drama ''TheVampireDiaries'', ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'', there are quite a few love triangles. The main triangle is the one between the heroine Elena, the hero Stefan and the anti-hero Damon. Stefan and Damon are also brothers. In this scenario, Elena (Archie) is torn between her soulmate Stefan (Betty) and her unpredictable, wild friend Damon (Veronica). There's also numerous other love triangles which include Katherine (Archie), Stefan (Betty) and Damon (Veronica), Elena (Archie), Matt (Betty) and Stefan (Veronica), Stefan (Archie), Elena (Betty) and Katherine (Veronica), Stefan (Archie), Elena (Betty), and Caroline (Veronica), Caroline (Archie), Matt (Betty), and Tyler (Veronica), Caroline (Archie), Tyler (Betty), and Klaus (Veronica), Stefan (Archie), Elena (Betty), and Rebekah (Veronica), Jeremy (Archie), Bonnie (Betty), and Anna (Veronica), Bonnie (Archie), Jeremy (Betty), and Luka (Veronica), Bonnie (Archie), Jeremy (Betty), and Jamie (Veronica), Vickie (Archie), Jeremy (Betty), and Tyler (Veronica), Tatia (Archie), Elijah (Betty), and Klaus (Veronica) and the most tragic one of all, Silas (Archie), Amara (Betty) and Qetsiyah (Veronica).



* While it never comes up as a matter of potential relationships the character dynamic is still in full swing and played straight in ''That70sShow'' with literal the girl-next-door Donna (Betty) and Jackie (Veronica).
* ''MadMen'' has shown instances of two such pairings. At work is the non-relationship version with simple, hardworking Peggy (Betty, or Mary Ann, if you prefer) contrasted to sultry, flirtatious Joan (Veronica, or [[PunnyName Ginger]]). Outside of the office Don Draper's relationships tend to follow this pattern as well with wife Betty being cut more from the Veronica mold (cold, emotionally distant, former model) while most of Don's mistresses are typically more Betty-like.

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* While it never comes up as a matter of potential relationships the character dynamic is still in full swing and played straight in ''That70sShow'' ''Series/That70sShow'' with literal the girl-next-door Donna (Betty) and Jackie (Veronica).
* ''MadMen'' ''Series/MadMen'' has shown instances of two such pairings. At work is the non-relationship version with simple, hardworking Peggy (Betty, or Mary Ann, if you prefer) contrasted to sultry, flirtatious Joan (Veronica, or [[PunnyName Ginger]]). Outside of the office Don Draper's relationships tend to follow this pattern as well with wife Betty being cut more from the Veronica mold (cold, emotionally distant, former model) while most of Don's mistresses are typically more Betty-like.



* Reality TV dating shows in which a host of women try to win a man's heart will often set up the final two female candidates for the male's affections as this. Examples are Trista (Betty) and Amanda (Veronica) on the first season of ''TheBachelor'' and Paige (Betty) and Erin (Veronica) on the first season of ''ForLoveOrForMoney''.

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* Reality TV dating shows in which a host of women try to win a man's heart will often set up the final two female candidates for the male's affections as this. Examples are Trista (Betty) and Amanda (Veronica) on the first season of ''TheBachelor'' ''Series/TheBachelor'' and Paige (Betty) and Erin (Veronica) on the first season of ''ForLoveOrForMoney''.



* On ''Series/{{Merlin}}'', [[spoiler:Lancelot du Lac (aka Lancelot brought back from the dead)]] is the Veronica to Gwen's Archie, with Arthur as Betty.

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* On ''Series/{{Merlin}}'', ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'', [[spoiler:Lancelot du Lac (aka Lancelot brought back from the dead)]] is the Veronica to Gwen's Archie, with Arthur as Betty.



* NBC's Dracula:

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* NBC's Dracula:''Dracula'':



* ''Series/{{Jake 20}}'' starts off with Jake (Archie) having a crush on Sarah, his college friend, while Diane, his Doctor, starts to like him. Though he knew Sarah for years and met Diane recently, Sarah is portrayed as the unattainable beauty (Veronica) and Diane as the nerdy friend (Betty) who knows his secret. Jake then starts to have feelings for Diane as well. [[spoiler:The triangle is resolved when Sarah starts to have feelings for Jake but gets PutOnABus after thinking he is lying about his secret; With Sarah gone it reverts to regular UST.]]

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* ''Series/{{Jake 20}}'' starts off with Jake (Archie) having a crush on Sarah, his college friend, while Diane, his Doctor, starts to like him. Though he knew Sarah for years and met Diane recently, Sarah is portrayed as the unattainable beauty (Veronica) and Diane as the nerdy friend (Betty) who knows his secret. Jake then starts to have feelings for Diane as well. [[spoiler:The triangle is resolved when Sarah starts to have feelings for Jake but gets PutOnABus after thinking he is lying about his secret; With Sarah gone it reverts to regular UST.]]]]
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3rd Apr '16 5:06:45 PM nombretomado
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* In "FamilyMatters", Steve Urkel ends up in a love triangle between the cute fellow nerd Myra (Betty) and the shallow popular girl Laura (Veronica). [[spoiler: And he eventually ended up with Laura.]]
* ''OnceUponATime'' plays with this interestingly; initially, it looks as though [[TheChosenOne Emma]]'s Betty is [[NewOldFlame Neal]], her ex who wants to get back together with her, while her Veronica is [[WildCard Captain Hook]], the flirtatious, revenge-driven pirate. ''However'', Neal has a Veronica streak in him, as he previously framed Emma for a crime ''he'' committed and got her sent to jail, while Hook's Betty streak comes from his [[ChivalrousPervert surprising courtesy]] towards Emma. [[spoiler:Since Emma can't really get past what Neal did to her, Hook wins.]]

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* In "FamilyMatters", ''Series/FamilyMatters'', Steve Urkel ends up in a love triangle between the cute fellow nerd Myra (Betty) and the shallow popular girl Laura (Veronica). [[spoiler: And he eventually ended up with Laura.]]
* ''OnceUponATime'' ''Series/OnceUponATime'' plays with this interestingly; initially, it looks as though [[TheChosenOne Emma]]'s Betty is [[NewOldFlame Neal]], her ex who wants to get back together with her, while her Veronica is [[WildCard Captain Hook]], the flirtatious, revenge-driven pirate. ''However'', Neal has a Veronica streak in him, as he previously framed Emma for a crime ''he'' committed and got her sent to jail, while Hook's Betty streak comes from his [[ChivalrousPervert surprising courtesy]] towards Emma. [[spoiler:Since Emma can't really get past what Neal did to her, Hook wins.]]
19th Mar '16 7:39:51 AM Hossmeister
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* Every third episode of ''AllyMcBeal'' had this plot, either for Ally or one of her clients.

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* ''Series/AceLightning'' has Heather and Sam who both date Mark at one point or another and have seemingly conflicting personalities and yet are best friends. Kind of like the [[ArchieComics original]] Betty and Veronica, really.
* Every third episode of ''AllyMcBeal'' ''Series/AllyMcBeal'' had this plot, either for Ally or one of her clients.
9th Mar '16 12:53:23 PM Hossmeister
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* The first season of ''MorkAndMindy'' had Mindy (Betty) vying for Mork's affections with former high school classmate Susan (Veronica).

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* The first season of ''MorkAndMindy'' ''Series/MorkAndMindy'' had Mindy (Betty) vying for Mork's affections with former high school classmate Susan (Veronica).
10th Feb '16 4:05:12 PM MyFinalEdits
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* NBC's Dracula has an interesting example with Mina Murray as the Betty and Jayne Wetherby as the Veronica to Dracula's Archie. Mina is the reincarnation of Dracula's long lost love and Jayne is a seductive vampire hunter. Though he begins an affair with Jayne he falls in love with Mina. Interesting to note that in this case the Betty is the unattainable one as she is the fiance of a man who is working for him. And the danger element of the Veronica is taken up to 11 as she would kill him if she knew who he was. Indeed she does try to kill him when she finds out his secret.
** There is also a gender-flipped example: Mina (Archie) is torn between her reliable fiancé Jonathan Harker (Betty) and the mysterious and seductive Mr. Grayson (Veronica) Dracula in disguise.

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* NBC's Dracula has an interesting example with Dracula:
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Mina Murray as the Betty and Jayne Wetherby as the Veronica to Dracula's Archie. Mina is the reincarnation of Dracula's long lost love and Jayne is a seductive vampire hunter. Though he begins an affair with Jayne he falls in love with Mina. Interesting to note that in this case the Betty is the unattainable one as she is the fiance of a man who is working for him. And the danger element of the Veronica is taken up to 11 as she would kill him if she knew who he was. Indeed she does try to kill him when she finds out his secret.
** There is also a gender-flipped example: Mina (Archie) is torn between her reliable fiancé Jonathan Harker (Betty) and the mysterious and seductive Mr. Grayson (Veronica) Dracula in disguise.
10th Feb '16 3:12:10 PM Vermont
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** There is also a gender-flipped example: Mina (Archie) is torn between her reliable fiancé Jonathan Harker (Betty) and the mysterious and seductive Mr. Grayson (Veronica) Dracula in disguise.
1st Jan '16 6:53:30 PM nombretomado
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* [[{{VicTorious}} Victorious]]: Has Beck (Archie), his long-term girlfriend Jade (Betty) and the popular Tori (Veronica). Played with in that Jade is more 'dangerous' while Tori is sweet-natured. But the two years Jade and Beck have been together pushes Jade firmly into Betty territory. (Especially as Tori is an exotic new student, who everyone adores and Jade is more of a loner). [[spoiler: Apart from a brief break up, and almost kiss with Tori, Beck remains committed to Jade and they end the series still together, happy and in love]]
* In the early seasons of ''{{Smallville}}'' in a gender-switched version, Lana is Archie with Clark as Betty and Whitney as Veronica even though Lana didn't want Whitney because he was a great football star and couldn't seem to see just how dangerous he was.

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* [[{{VicTorious}} Victorious]]: Has ''Series/{{Victorious}}'': Beck (Archie), his long-term girlfriend Jade (Betty) and the popular Tori (Veronica). Played with in that Jade is more 'dangerous' while Tori is sweet-natured. But the two years Jade and Beck have been together pushes Jade firmly into Betty territory. (Especially as Tori is an exotic new student, who everyone adores and Jade is more of a loner). [[spoiler: Apart from a brief break up, and almost kiss with Tori, Beck remains committed to Jade and they end the series still together, happy and in love]]
* In the early seasons of ''{{Smallville}}'' ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' in a gender-switched version, Lana is Archie with Clark as Betty and Whitney as Veronica even though Lana didn't want Whitney because he was a great football star and couldn't seem to see just how dangerous he was.
7th Dec '15 10:58:51 PM PaulA
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* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'': Miss Enright was another, more glamorous English teacher who competed with Miss Brooks for Mr. Boynton's affections.

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* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'': ''Series/OurMissBrooks'': Miss Enright was another, more glamorous English teacher who competed with Miss Brooks for Mr. Boynton's affections.
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