History BettyAndVeronica / LiveActionTV

4th Feb '17 1:00:07 PM Premonition45
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* ''Series/TheNanny'' is a show told from the point of view of a Veronica. Fran is the wild, lower-class "risky" option that Maxwell falls for, whereas his business partner, C.C. Babcock, is the "safe" Betty option. The LoveTriangle only exists in C.C.'s mind, but that's besides the point.

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* ''Series/TheNanny'' is a show told from the point of view of a Veronica. Fran is the wild, lower-class "risky" option that Maxwell falls for, whereas his business partner, C.C. Babcock, is the "safe" Betty option. The LoveTriangle [[WrongGenreSavvy only exists in C.C.'s mind, mind]], but that's besides the point.
27th Jan '17 9:50:40 PM Discar
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** Betty is of course the Betty for Archie, while Veronica is his Veronica; Betty is the friendly and safe GirlNextDoor, while Veronica is the more dangerous seductress. Though there's a case to be made that Miss Grundy is his Veronica, Veronica is his Betty (as the safer alternative), and Betty is just an UnluckyChildhoodFriend.

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** For Archie, Betty is of course the Betty for Archie, Betty, while Veronica is his Veronica; Betty is the friendly and safe GirlNextDoor, while Veronica is the more dangerous seductress. Though there's a case to be made that Miss Grundy is his Veronica, Veronica is his Betty (as the safer alternative), and Betty is just an UnluckyChildhoodFriend.
27th Jan '17 9:50:08 PM Discar
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* ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'': * BettyAndVeronica: Given that they're versions of the [[TropeNamer Trope Namers]], Betty and a Veronica play this every which way, for multiple triads.

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* ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'': * BettyAndVeronica: Given that they're versions of the [[TropeNamer Trope Namers]], Betty and a Veronica play this every which way, for multiple triads.
27th Jan '17 9:49:46 PM Discar
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** Jessie and Michonne. Jessie is a wholesome GirlNextDoor NonActionGuy type, whilst Michonne is a SugarAndIcePersonality ActionGirl. [[spoiler: Rick ends up with both of them, albeit at different points.]] In an interesting variation, the Veronica is actually the long time friend, whereas Betty is the newcomer.

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** Jessie and Michonne. Jessie is a wholesome GirlNextDoor NonActionGuy type, whilst Michonne is a SugarAndIcePersonality ActionGirl. [[spoiler: Rick ends up with both of them, albeit at different points.]] In an interesting variation, the Veronica is actually the long time friend, whereas Betty is the newcomer.newcomer.
* ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'': * BettyAndVeronica: Given that they're versions of the [[TropeNamer Trope Namers]], Betty and a Veronica play this every which way, for multiple triads.
** Betty is of course the Betty for Archie, while Veronica is his Veronica; Betty is the friendly and safe GirlNextDoor, while Veronica is the more dangerous seductress. Though there's a case to be made that Miss Grundy is his Veronica, Veronica is his Betty (as the safer alternative), and Betty is just an UnluckyChildhoodFriend.
** For Veronica, Betty is her Betty, while Archie is her Veronica, as he's far more mercurial, interesting, and dangerous compared to Betty.
** For Betty, Archie should be her Betty and Veronica her Veronica, but Archie's secrets make him less safe than Betty expected, while Veronica is unfailingly kind and supportive, which would mean that Archie is the Veronica and Veronica is the Betty.
** This seems to have been the case for Archie and Veronica's parents, with Veronica's Mother Hermione Lodge as either the Archie who picked Veronica (the wealthy Hiram) over Betty (Archie's father) or as the Veronica who dumped Archie's Father (Archie) so he ended up with Archie's mother Mary (the Betty).
11th Jan '17 1:09:46 PM detghost
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** You could argue Jackie is the Archie to Kelso (Betty) and Hyde (Veronica). Loud, cheating Kelso doesn't initially seem like a Betty, but he is still preppy, cheerful and naive compared to scruffy, cynical, snarky Hyde. There was Kelso, Jackie (Betty) and Laurie (Veronica), and an early and eventually abandoned love triangle between Donna, Eric (Betty) and Hyde (Veronica).

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** You could argue Jackie is the Archie to Kelso (Betty) and Hyde (Veronica). Loud, cheating Kelso doesn't initially seem like a Betty, but he is still preppy, cheerful and naive compared to scruffy, cynical, and snarky Hyde. There was also Kelso, Jackie (Betty) and Laurie (Veronica), and an early and eventually abandoned love triangle between Donna, Eric (Betty) and Hyde (Veronica).
11th Jan '17 1:08:26 PM detghost
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** You could argue Jackie is the Archie to Kelso (Betty) and Hyde (Veronica). Loud, cheating Kelso doesn't initially seem like a Betty, but he is still preppy, cheerful and naive compared to scruffy, cynical, snarky Hyde. There was Kelso, Jackie (Betty) and Laurie (Veronica), and an early and eventually abandoned love triangle between Donna, Eric (Betty) and Hyde (Veronica).
11th Jan '17 12:53:03 PM detghost
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** Interestingly, Angel and Spike's roles started out reversed back in Season 2 when Angel loses his soul and gets involved in the Spike-Drusilla-Angel love triangle. While souled Angel is quiet and thoughtful, Angelus is charming, charismatic and one of the most [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] vampires who ever existed. Spike, while also evil, has a few drops of humanity (according to The Judge), clearly loves Drusilla and is an [[LoveMartyr extremely doting boyfriend]], making him the clear Betty to Angelus' Veronica.

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** Interestingly, Angel and Spike's roles started out reversed back in Season 2 when Angel loses his soul and gets involved in the Spike-Drusilla-Angel love triangle. While souled Angel is quiet and thoughtful, Angelus is charming, outgoing, charismatic and one of the most [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] vampires who ever existed. Spike, while also evil, has a few drops of humanity (according to The Judge), clearly loves Drusilla and is an [[LoveMartyr extremely doting boyfriend]], making him the clear Betty to Angelus' Veronica.
11th Jan '17 12:50:03 PM detghost
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** Interestingly, Angel and Spike's roles started out reversed back in Season 2 when Angel loses his soul and gets involved in the Spike-Drusilla-Angel love triangle. While souled Angel is quiet and thoughtful, Angelus is charming, charismatic and one of the most [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] vampires who ever existed. Spike, while also evil, has a few drops of humanity (according to The Judge), clearly loves Drusilla and is an [[LoveMartyr extremely doting boyfriend]], making him the clear Betty to Angelus' Veronica.



** When Angel loses his soul in Season 2, he joins Spike and Drusilla, creating a love triangle. While souled Angel is quiet and thoughtful (making him the Betty to impulsive, passionate Spike's Veronica), Angelus is charming, charismatic and one of the most [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] vampires who ever existed. Spike, while also evil, has a few drops of humanity (according to The Judge), clearly loves Drusilla and is an [[LoveMartyr extremely doting boyfriend]], making him the clear Betty to Angelus' Veronica.
11th Jan '17 12:45:42 PM detghost
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** There is also a very short-lived love triangle in Season 5 when Drusilla (Veronica) comes back to Sunnydale. At first it seems like the [[StalkerWithACrush Buffy-obsessed]] Spike is returning to her, but it turns out he chooses Buffy (Betty) and offers to kill his ex to prove his love.
11th Jan '17 12:40:30 PM detghost
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* A gender-flipped ''Series/{{Angel}}'' example: Fred (Archie) had to choose between the tough, street-smart former gang leader Gunn (Veronica) and the bookish, nerdy SmartGuy Wes (Betty). (Ironically in Season 5 these roles are reversed, due to Wesley talking a level in badass and Gunn getting a brain implant). Eventually, [[spoiler: she chose her Veronica, then broke up with him, turned to her Betty, died, became an ancient goddess, nearly killed both of them (one inadvertently), then Wes died]]. Long story.

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* A gender-flipped ''Series/{{Angel}}'' example: Fred (Archie) had to choose between the tough, street-smart former gang leader Gunn (Veronica) and the bookish, nerdy SmartGuy Wes (Betty). (Ironically in Season Seasons 4 and 5 these roles are reversed, due to Wesley talking a level in badass and Gunn getting a brain implant).implant in the latter season). Eventually, [[spoiler: she chose her Veronica, then broke up with him, turned to her Betty, died, became an ancient goddess, nearly killed both of them (one inadvertently), then Wes died]]. Long story.
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