History Administrivia / CreatorPageGuidelines

** '''Tropes applying to an individual work that already has its own page.''' Any trope specific to that work should go onto its own page. However, even if one of the creator's works does have its own page, it can still be mentioned in examples that are relevant to the creator's work as a whole.

!! What should ''not'' go on creator pages:

* '''Tropes that apply to ''individual'' works they've created.''' Any tropes listed should be relevant to their work as a whole, not to just one work. So if a trope only applies to ''one'' work they've made, please list it on that work's page instead.

* '''Subjectivity and YMMV.''' We don't list [[YMMV.HomePage YMMV]] items for real-life people. That includes creators. Please don't list AudienceReactions or [[YMMV.HomePage YMMV]] for a creator (unless it's for one of their works that doesn't already have a page or for their general work).

* '''Tropes that appear frequently in their works.''' If a creator has a SignatureStyle, their creator page is a good place to talk about it. For example, Creator/MichaelBay's page lists tropes like StuffBlowingUp, SummerBlockbuster, and TechnologyPorn.
* '''Trivia about them.''' We have lots of tropes and {{Trivia}} that can legitimately apply to creators, like DyeingForYourArt, TrollingCreator, PenName, CreatorBreakdown, and DiedDuringProduction. Most of these are okay to include on a creator page. '''Do not''' create Trivia subpages for creators; just put the examples in the main article. [[note]]However, if a Creator article is doubling as a work article, Trivia subpages may contain trivia for their works.[[/note]]
* '''ConversationalTroping.''' Normally, we don't trope RealLife people. But creators often give interviews, or [[Website/{{Twitter}} tweet]], or other such forms of WordOfGod, and they often talk about tropes. So if they're [[DiscussedTrope discussing]], [[ConversedTrope conversing]], [[LampshadeHanging lampshading]], or [[InvokedTrope invoking]] tropes, those tropes are fair game for their page.

When handling pages about creators (and their works) who have changed their name (e.g. if they've either transitioned after coming out as UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} or changed their last name after getting married, among other reasons), we should use their current name and preferred pronouns. Here are some guidelines to use:

When handling pages about creators (and their works) who have changed their name (usually if they've either transitioned after coming out as UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} or had their last name changed after getting married, though there are other reasons), we should use their current name and preferred pronouns. Here are some guidelines to use:

* '''Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character.''' Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to RealLife people. We've had a lot of Administrivia/SquarePegRoundTrope issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease to creators. If it seems harmless it might be overlooked JustForFun, and there is an exception for ConversationalTroping as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement best avoided]]. The only time such tropes can be added is if the trope in question relates to their works.

Wiki/TVTropes is primarily about {{trope}}s and the works that use them. However, oftentimes information about an {{author|s}}, {{actor|s}}, {{director|s}}, {{producer|s}}, {{mangaka}}, {{composer|s}}, {{animator|s}}, [[VideoGameCompanies developer]], or other creator can be relevant to our understanding of the tropes in their works. To that end, we have {{Creator|s}} pages.

Note, however, that not all pages about people will fall into this category. Some, such as UsefulNotes/ThePresidents, are UsefulNotes and/or {{Historical Domain Character}}s. Others are pages for {{musicians}} or {{professional wrestl|ing}}ers that, while they may look like creator pages, are actually work pages for documenting the tropes used in their performances (and should be in the Music/ and Wrestling/ Administrivia/{{namespace}}s, respectively, with the page type "work", not "creator").

# If a creator was active under their previous identity, it's acceptable to mention this openly ONCE at the top of the creator page, e.g "Elliot Page (formerly credited as Ellen Page; born February 21, 1987)"

When handling pages about creators (and their works) who have changed their name (usually if they've either transitioned after coming out as Main/{{Transgender}} or had their last name changed after getting married, though there are other reasons), we should use their current name and preferred pronouns. Here are some guidelines to use:

* '''An overview of works they've created.''' A simple bulleted list of works they've been involved with is usually a good place to start.[[note]]If one or more of their works does not yet have a wiki page associated with it, please list them as {{redlink}}s to make things easier in case the page gets created in the future.[[/note]]

# If a creator was active under their previous identity, it's acceptable to mention this openly ONCE at the top of the creator page, e.g "Elliot Page (formerly Ellen Page; born February 21, 1987)"

!Creator names

When handling pages about creators (and their works) who have changed their name (for example, if they've transitioned after coming out as Main/{{Transgender}} amongst other reasons), we should use their current name and preferred pronouns. Here are some guidelines to use:

# If a creator only became of interest to us after they'd started using their new name, then we use their new name exclusively.

# Any instances where we need to acknowledge that the creator was credited under their old name should be done using the [=[[note]]=]<information>[=[[/note]]=] syntax so the information is there but not blatant. For example when listing roles on a creator page, use:

!!Selected filmography[[note]]Some roles credited as <previous name>[[/note]]

* '''Trivia about them.''' We have lots of tropes and {{Trivia}} that can legitimately apply to creators, like DyeingForYourArt, TrollingCreator, PenName, CreatorBreakdown, and AuthorExistenceFailure. Most of these are okay to include on a creator page. '''Do not''' create Trivia subpages for creators; just put the examples in the main article. [[note]]However, if a Creator article is doubling as a work article, Trivia subpages may contain trivia for their works.[[/note]]

* '''CreatorBashing.''' Creator pages should not be used to complain about how much a person sucks. We're not here to hate on people. Multiple creator pages, including Creator/{{Microsoft}}, have been sent to the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub because editors just couldn't resist spewing bile. Please keep it neutral.

* '''CreatorBashing.''' Creator pages should not be used to complain about how much a person sucks. We're not here to hate on people. Multiple creator pages, including Creator/UweBoll and Creator/{{Microsoft}}, have been sent to the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub because editors just couldn't resist spewing bile. Please keep it neutral.

* '''Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character.''' Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to RealLife people. We've had a lot of SquarePegRoundTrope issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease to creators. If it seems harmless it might be overlooked JustForFun, and there is an exception for ConversationalTroping as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement best avoided]]. The only time such tropes can be added is if the trope in question relates to their works.

* '''Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character.''' Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to RealLife people. We've had a lot of SquarePegRoundTrope issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease to creators. If it seems harmless it might be overlooked JustForFun, and there is an exception for ConversationalTroping as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement best avoided]]. The only time such tropes can be added is if the trope in question relates to their works. For example, if an actor is famous for playing {{Deadpan Snarker|}}s, then you can use that trope as an example on their creator page, but don't use the DeadpanSnarker trope if you're referring to the actor themselves.

* '''Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character.''' Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to RealLife people. We've had a lot of SquarePegRoundTrope issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease to creators. If it seems harmless it might be overlooked JustForFun, and there is an exception for ConversationalTroping as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement best avoided]]. The only time such tropes can be added is if the trope in question relates to their works. For example, if an actor is famous for playing {{Deadpan Snarker|}}s, then you can use that trope as an example on their creator page, but don't use the DeadpanSnarker trope if you're referring to the actor themselves.

* '''Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character.''' Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to RealLife people. We've had a lot of SquarePegRoundTrope issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease to creators. If it seems harmless it might be overlooked JustForFun, and there is an exception for ConversationalTroping as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement best avoided]].

* '''Drooling.''' In the past, we've had pages for actresses that consisted primarily of gushing about how hot they are. [[Administrivia/NoLewdnessNoPrudishness This is not okay.]] It's inappropriate and will not be tolerated. They don't have to dress hyper-modestly on the pictures, but their pictures must not be overly sexy either. If they did {{Fanservice}} at one moment or another, refrain from adding things like "Not that anyone is complaining".