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Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on [=TVTropes=]. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of [[Administrivia/TVTropesGlossary Wiki Magic]], and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are. Worse, it'll lead to other people thinking that's okay and doing the same thing. (Corollary: Don't make work or creator articles just to [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about a person or site you don't like]].)

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Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt Platform/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube Platform/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on [=TVTropes=]. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of [[Administrivia/TVTropesGlossary Wiki Magic]], and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are. Worse, it'll lead to other people thinking that's okay and doing the same thing. (Corollary: Don't make work or creator articles just to [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about a person or site you don't like]].)

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* '''You are Administrivia/{{Entry Pimp}}ing yourself into articles.''' This is particularly evident when you shoehorn links to your article as commentary or annotations to a broader topic. For example, if there's an example about ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' in TheHerosJourney, you tack on a sentence like, "[creator] discusses this in his/her blog." It's Administrivia/FirstPersonWriting in a slightly different form.

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* '''You are adding [[YMMV/HomePage Subjective Tropes]], AudienceReactions, and/or {{Trivia}} about your own work.''' Creators are not objective about their own work. If it looks like you're editing an article mainly for the purpose of telling us how great you are, it's not a good sign. Giving us "insider information" about your own work is similarly not good -- first, it's likely that only you care; second, any {{Trivia}} items should be things that can be researched independently.

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* '''You are adding [[YMMV/HomePage Subjective Tropes]], AudienceReactions, and/or publicly inaccessible {{Trivia}} about your own work.''' Creators are not objective about their own work. If it looks like you're editing an article mainly for the purpose of telling us how great you are, it's not a good sign. Giving us "insider information" about your own work is similarly not good -- first, it's likely that only you care; second, any {{Trivia}} items should be things that can be researched independently.
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Put simply, Auto-Erotic Troping is creating and/or editing articles about yourself or your work for the purpose of stroking your own... ego. Let's just leave it at that. Wiki/TVTropes is a place for fans to document tropes in media, not a platform for creators to advertise or pimp their work.

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Put simply, Auto-Erotic Troping is creating and/or editing articles about yourself or your work for the purpose of stroking your own... ego. Let's just leave it at that. Wiki/TVTropes Website/TVTropes is a place for fans to document tropes in media, not a platform for creators to advertise or pimp their work.
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* '''You are {{Entry Pimp}}ing yourself into articles.''' This is particularly evident when you shoehorn links to your article as commentary or annotations to a broader topic. For example, if there's an example about ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' in TheHerosJourney, you tack on a sentence like, "[creator] discusses this in his/her blog." It's Administrivia/FirstPersonWriting in a slightly different form.

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* '''You are {{Entry Administrivia/{{Entry Pimp}}ing yourself into articles.''' This is particularly evident when you shoehorn links to your article as commentary or annotations to a broader topic. For example, if there's an example about ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' in TheHerosJourney, you tack on a sentence like, "[creator] discusses this in his/her blog." It's Administrivia/FirstPersonWriting in a slightly different form.
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Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on [=TVTropes=]. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of WikiMagic, and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are. Worse, it'll lead to other people thinking that's okay and doing the same thing. (Corollary: Don't make work or creator articles just to [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about a person or site you don't like]].)

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Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on [=TVTropes=]. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of WikiMagic, [[Administrivia/TVTropesGlossary Wiki Magic]], and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are. Worse, it'll lead to other people thinking that's okay and doing the same thing. (Corollary: Don't make work or creator articles just to [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about a person or site you don't like]].)

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* '''You haven't actually created any tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, covers, remixes, roleplays [[note]](other than ones intended for publication and documented as works)[[/note]], Let's Plays, reaction videos, and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: DarthWiki/UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki/DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)

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* '''You haven't actually created any tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, covers, remixes, roleplays [[note]](other than ones intended for publication and documented as works)[[/note]], Let's Plays, Plays [[note]](except those that add significant creative content to the original material)[[/note]], reaction videos, and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: DarthWiki/UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki/DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)

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* '''You haven't actually created any tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, covers, remixes, roleplays [[note]](other than ones intended for publication and documented as works)[[/note]], and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: DarthWiki/UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki/DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)

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* '''You haven't actually created any tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, covers, remixes, roleplays [[note]](other than ones intended for publication and documented as works)[[/note]], Let's Plays, reaction videos, and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: DarthWiki/UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki/DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)

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* '''You are adding [[FanficRecommendations recommendations]] for your own work.''' This is explicitly forbidden.
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* '''You are {{Entry Pimp}}ing yourself into articles.''' This is particularly evident when you shoehorn links to your article as commentary or annotations to a broader topic. For example, if there's an example about ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' in TheHerosJourney, you tack on a sentence like, "[creator] discusses this in his/her blog." It's ThisTroper in a slightly different form.

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* '''You are {{Entry Pimp}}ing yourself into articles.''' This is particularly evident when you shoehorn links to your article as commentary or annotations to a broader topic. For example, if there's an example about ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' in TheHerosJourney, you tack on a sentence like, "[creator] discusses this in his/her blog." It's ThisTroper Administrivia/FirstPersonWriting in a slightly different form.

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* '''You are adding SubjectiveTropes, AudienceReactions, and/or {{Trivia}} about your own work.''' Creators are not objective about their own work. If it looks like you're editing an article mainly for the purpose of telling us how great you are, it's not a good sign. Giving us "insider information" about your own work is similarly not good -- first, it's likely that only you care; second, any {{Trivia}} items should be things that can be researched independently.

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* '''You are adding SubjectiveTropes, [[YMMV/HomePage Subjective Tropes]], AudienceReactions, and/or {{Trivia}} about your own work.''' Creators are not objective about their own work. If it looks like you're editing an article mainly for the purpose of telling us how great you are, it's not a good sign. Giving us "insider information" about your own work is similarly not good -- first, it's likely that only you care; second, any {{Trivia}} items should be things that can be researched independently.
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* '''You haven't actually created any tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, covers, remixes, roleplays [[note]](other than ones intended for publication and documented as works)[[/note]], and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: DarthWiki/UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)

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Addendum: If [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant you thought the title of this page meant]] something else... we don't allow fetish-y editing, either. See FetishFuel for more details.
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It's understandable: as writers and artists, we're proud of our work and enjoy sharing it with people. It's only natural to want to take that to [=TVTropes=] and use this site to broaden our audience. However, there are a number of problems that can occur, along with some common signs that you've taken things too far:

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It's understandable: as writers and artists, we're proud of our work and enjoy sharing it with people. It's only natural to want to take that to [=TVTropes=] TV Tropes and use this site to broaden our audience. However, there are a number of problems that can occur, along with some common signs that you've taken things too far:
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Put simply, Auto-Erotic Troping is creating and/or editing articles about yourself or your work for the purpose of stroking your own... ego. Let's just leave it at that. TVTropes is a place for fans to document tropes in media, not a platform for creators to advertise or pimp their work.

It's understandable: as writers and artists, we're proud of our work and enjoy sharing it with people. It's only natural to want to take that to TVTropes and use this site to broaden our audience. However, there are a number of problems that can occur, along with some common signs that you've taken things too far:

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Put simply, Auto-Erotic Troping is creating and/or editing articles about yourself or your work for the purpose of stroking your own... ego. Let's just leave it at that. TVTropes Wiki/TVTropes is a place for fans to document tropes in media, not a platform for creators to advertise or pimp their work.

It's understandable: as writers and artists, we're proud of our work and enjoy sharing it with people. It's only natural to want to take that to TVTropes [=TVTropes=] and use this site to broaden our audience. However, there are a number of problems that can occur, along with some common signs that you've taken things too far:



Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on TVTropes. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of WikiMagic, and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are. Worse, it'll lead to other people thinking that's okay and doing the same thing. (Corollary: Don't make work or creator articles just to [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about a person or site you don't like]].)

Similarly, collaboration and role-playing sites are not inherently tropeworthy unless they result in the publication of discrete works. It's cool that you hang out with a group of people who all have nifty ideas about stuff they might publish, but that doesn't justify a TVTropes article for your online community. Most of the time, those just turn into troping the users as if they were fictional characters, which is absolutely forbidden.

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Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on TVTropes.[=TVTropes=]. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of WikiMagic, and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are. Worse, it'll lead to other people thinking that's okay and doing the same thing. (Corollary: Don't make work or creator articles just to [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about a person or site you don't like]].)

Similarly, collaboration and role-playing sites are not inherently tropeworthy unless they result in the publication of discrete works. It's cool that you hang out with a group of people who all have nifty ideas about stuff they might publish, but that doesn't justify a TVTropes [=TVTropes=] article for your online community. Most of the time, those just turn into troping the users as if they were fictional characters, which is absolutely forbidden.

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Put simply, Auto-Erotic Troping is creating and/or editing articles about yourself or your work for the purpose of stroking your own... ego. Let's just leave it at that. TVTropes is a platform to document tropes in media, not a platform for you to advertise or pimp your work.

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Put simply, Auto-Erotic Troping is creating and/or editing articles about yourself or your work for the purpose of stroking your own... ego. Let's just leave it at that. TVTropes is a platform place for fans to document tropes in media, not a platform for you creators to advertise or pimp your their work.

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Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on TVTropes. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of WikiMagic, and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are. Worse, it'll lead to other people thinking that's okay and doing the same thing.

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Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on TVTropes. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of WikiMagic, and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are. Worse, it'll lead to other people thinking that's okay and doing the same thing.
thing. (Corollary: Don't make work or creator articles just to [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about a person or site you don't like]].)

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* '''You haven't actually created any tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, covers, remixes, roleplays [[note]](other than ones intended for publication and documented as works)[[/note]], and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)

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* '''You haven't actually created any tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, covers, remixes, roleplays [[note]](other than ones intended for publication and documented as works)[[/note]], and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: UnpublishedWorks DarthWiki/UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)
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Similarly, collaboration and role-playing sites are not inherently tropeworthy unless they result in the publication of discrete works. It's cool that you hang out with a group of people who all have nifty ideas about stuff they might publish, but that doesn't justify a TVTropes article for your fan community. Most of the time, those just turn into troping the users as if they were fictional characters, which is absolutely forbidden.

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Similarly, collaboration and role-playing sites are not inherently tropeworthy unless they result in the publication of discrete works. It's cool that you hang out with a group of people who all have nifty ideas about stuff they might publish, but that doesn't justify a TVTropes article for your fan online community. Most of the time, those just turn into troping the users as if they were fictional characters, which is absolutely forbidden.

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* '''You haven't actually created any tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, remixes, and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)

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* '''You haven't actually created any tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, covers, remixes, roleplays [[note]](other than ones intended for publication and documented as works)[[/note]], and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)

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* '''You haven't actually created any published works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. (Exception: UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)

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* '''You haven't actually created any published tropable works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. Blogs, vlogs, photographs, drawings, remixes, and things like that don't typically count. (Exception: UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)



Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on TVTropes. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of WikiMagic, and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are.

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Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on TVTropes. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of WikiMagic, and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are.
are. Worse, it'll lead to other people thinking that's okay and doing the same thing.

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See also: Administrivia/TheFicMayBeYoursButTheTropePageIsOurs, Administrivia/CreatorPageGuidelines, SmallNameBigEgo

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Put simply, Auto-Erotic Troping is creating and/or editing articles about yourself or your work for the purpose of stroking your own... ego. Let's just leave it at that. TVTropes is a platform to document tropes in media, not a platform for you to advertise or pimp your work.

It's understandable: as writers and artists, we're proud of our work and enjoy sharing it with people. It's only natural to want to take that to TVTropes and use this site to broaden our audience. However, there are a number of problems that can occur, along with some common signs that you've taken things too far:

* '''You haven't actually created any published works.''' This is a big one; while [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability we don't have notability standards]] ''per se'', we do care that an article describe something that exists in a discrete form that can be meaningfully troped. (Exception: UnpublishedWorks can get put on DarthWiki, but other rules about troping your own work still apply.)
* '''You are adding SubjectiveTropes, AudienceReactions, and/or {{Trivia}} about your own work.''' Creators are not objective about their own work. If it looks like you're editing an article mainly for the purpose of telling us how great you are, it's not a good sign. Giving us "insider information" about your own work is similarly not good -- first, it's likely that only you care; second, any {{Trivia}} items should be things that can be researched independently.
* '''You are {{Entry Pimp}}ing yourself into articles.''' This is particularly evident when you shoehorn links to your article as commentary or annotations to a broader topic. For example, if there's an example about ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' in TheHerosJourney, you tack on a sentence like, "[creator] discusses this in his/her blog." It's ThisTroper in a slightly different form.

Note that, while self-publication sites like Website/DeviantArt and Website/YouTube can give individuals a wonderful platform to share their work with others, having a DA page or a YT channel doesn't mean you automatically qualify for a Creator article on TVTropes. We prefer that other people independently contribute to your article once you become popular enough to generate the interest. Otherwise your article will wither and die for lack of WikiMagic, and/or will turn into little more than you telling us how awesome you are.

Similarly, collaboration and role-playing sites are not inherently tropeworthy unless they result in the publication of discrete works. It's cool that you hang out with a group of people who all have nifty ideas about stuff they might publish, but that doesn't justify a TVTropes article for your fan community. Most of the time, those just turn into troping the users as if they were fictional characters, which is absolutely forbidden.

See also: Administrivia/TheFicMayBeYoursButTheTropePageIsOurs, Administrivia/CreatorPageGuidelines

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