This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Why alphabetical order? It makes it much harder to check the list for new examples.
Pulled Tin Man from the list. For many people, Your Mileage May Vary.
"* The Anna Nicole Show. What a pointless show that was! And that Anna Nicole was a TOTAL PAIN IN THE BUTT. Thank goodness she's dead now."
The last line is totally uncalled for. No matter how much you hate someone for being stupid/ignorant/boring/whatever, being thankful for someone's death is totally fucked up. (Unless they're a violent criminal or terrorist, in which case serve the motherfuckers right.)
Crazyrabbits: Deleted these entries.
- Survivor and most other reality shows similar except American Idol.
- All of the current live action shows on Disney Channel.
Highly subjective. State specific examples of HOW these shows are horrible. What makes them worse than something like the Star Wars Holiday Special? Listing genres under the blanket of being horrible isn't explaining anything. Plus, there are already examples of some of the worst reality shows ever made.
Zeke: I've done some work on the Trek item. I completed the list of series and tried to pick one or two for each which were, as far as possible, uncontroversial clunkers. ENT's "These Are the Voyages" may be the most widely reviled Trek episode right now (like VOY's "Endgame" before it), but the reasons are meta; it's hated for what it did, not for doing it badly. That sort of thing belongs in Dis Continuity. "Threshold", on the other hand, fits fine in both categories — its ideas and execution sucked about equally.
Willy Four Eyes: Zapped the following entry:
- This troper would just like to note that both the top and side banner ad for him right now is for Last Comic Standing. It makes you wonder...
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: Cut the "Spock's Brain" entry on the grounds that Narm can shift something from "So Bad It's Horrible" to So Bad, It's Good—sometimes. I would like elaboration on the other Star Trek episodes (excepting "A Night in Sickbay," which gets its from the external link)—just for the sake of people who've forgotten what, say, "Cost of Living" is about.
- Star Trek The Original Series started out its already lackluster third season with "Spock's Brain", which is exactly as mind-bogglingly silly as it sounds.
- Awww, c'mon, "Spock's Brain" is hilarious.
- Star Trek The Original Series started out its already lackluster third season with "Spock's Brain", which is exactly as mind-bogglingly silly as it sounds.
[Much later] Cut it again. If many people think it's So Bad, It's Good, it probably is.
Vampire Buddha: Did some cleanup and sorted out some of the formatting. Here's what I cut.
- *** Looks like even MTV is biting back at the brats: a new series called Exiled is in production, where the Super Sweet 16 kids will be sent "to remote dangerous countries in order to see whether if their offspring will survive the primitive conditions". No, seriously.
Interesting, but not relevant top the entry.
- *** Another editor thinks the title should have been Who Wants to Tell the Entire Country She's a Golddigging Whore Who'll Sell Herself to a Stranger As Long As He's Rich?
- ** A Dutch show, called The Big Donorshow is about an organ donor who has to choose one of three candidates to receive her kidney. It's about as awful as it sounds, so bad in fact that the Dutch parliment has called for the show to be scrapped.
- Of course, that show was a fake designed to highlight the lack of available organs. Doesn't make it any less of this trope though.
- OBJECTION! This show was great if you knew what it was going in. A dark satire of reality television? Sign me up!
The Big Donorshow was a satire; unless it was a really really bad satire, it doesn't belong here.
- ** But Tin Man had flying monkeys flying out of the wicked witches boobs!
** Ironically, that means that the answer to the original question is "L. Frank Baum." Not that the show didn't have other faults.- This editor actually liked it. To each his own, I guess...
*** This editor as well, if only for the obscenely rampant Ho Yay. "You're a deep well, Glitch" indeed...
- This editor actually liked it. To each his own, I guess...
Gotta love those newbs, bravely sprinkling natter wherever they go.
- *** This troper doesn't think The Dune miniseries, boring but serviceable, belong to the same category as Manos The Hands Of Fate . That's just mean-spirited.
- ** This had to have been a textbook example of Springtime for Hitler... right? Right?!
- I honestly don't know whether to destroy humanity for that, or start a campaign to get it back on the air.
- ** Bad US version of Blackpool, BTW. The UK version made David Tennant a star.
Freezair For A Limited Time: Cut:
- How on Earth is MAD TV not on this list?
As it says on the main index for this section... Dislike by one troper does not a So Bad It's Horrible work make. I can't stand the show either, but it obviously has a lot of fans.
Silent Hunter: Does Spooks: Code 9 qualify?
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: This entry seems vaguely insulting to fans of the Dune books, so, even if the Sci-Fi mini-series is also vaguely insulting to those fans, I'm pulling this until it's explained why it's So Bad Its Horrible. The way it looks now, either it's just ordinarily bad, or the Dune novels are bad...
- The Sci Fi Channel's adaptation of Dune was very close to the original novel, except that Paul became incredibly annoying and there was way more sex. Either way, it was boring as hell. (But the Children of Dune miniseries was a marked improvement).
The Kitchen Magician: Do we really need the Star Trek examples? They're just duplicates of the episodes already mentioned as Wall Bangers. I thought that this was just for when a show is awful in its entirety, not for awful moments within shows.
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: I don't doubt that this show is So Bad Its Horrible - I've seen and shuddered at the later installments of the ad campaign - but we still need an explanation why. (Remember, The Flintstones was good early on.)
- Did any of you watch Cavemen? I didn't think so.
Ethereal Mutation: More cuts.
- The 1989 Academy Awards opening production number
, featuring Rob Lowe and Snow White singing "Proud Mary."
This should be in Wall Banger at best.
- Australia's Naughtiest Home Videos, a home-video compilation composed entirely of footage of animals having sex (you didn't think they'd broadcast humans doing it, did you?) has the unique distinction of being one of the only television shows literally canceled during broadcast. The show went to commercial, and when broadcast resumed it had miraculously turned into a re-run of Cheers after Nine Network owner Kerry Packer bluntly ordered the broadcasters to "get that shit off the air!"
Reading into it, this actually sounds like it was a Stealth Parody meant intentionally to piss off the head of the network.
- Barney and Friends has the distinction of spawning one of the world's largest Hatedoms. Being aimed at preschoolers does not excuse it from being cringe-inducing to anyone else. This show has low production values; that, combined with its primary demographic and its airing on PBS, keeps it on the air despite the Hatedom.
Barney is a big industry. Just because it's aimed at a certain demographic doesn't mean it's a failure for it. It has to fail to even appeal to them.
- The Chevy Chase Show, a late-night talk show, is frequently cited as the low point in his career. Considering the career Chevy Chase has had, that's pretty damn low.
- The deservedly forgotten Australian (alleged) sitcom Dogs Head Bay.
- My Mother The Car, one of the first SitComs to attain true infamy for its terribleness.
Non-descriptive.
- The Simple Life. Somehow made Paris Hilton popular among the general public despite her inability to do anything useful (on-screen or off). This show shocked reviewers after its first season because they, seeing how Paris and her friend Nicole Richie behaved early on, expected a Redemption Arc to kick in. Instead, they turn out to be Karma Houdinis; they neither stop being worse than useless nor become reviled by the town they are wreaking havoc in. The second season follows a similar pattern over many locales, but is even worse; the third season is too mind-boggling to think about.
Popularity nullifies this trope. The revelation should also be in Wall Banger.
- Many reality shows, especially those from Fox. Notable So Bad Its Horrible reality shows include:
- Who's Your Daddy?, where someone has to pick out their birth father from 25 possible people and gets money if they do so
- Welcome to the Neighborhood, where conservative, upper-class white Christian families gets to decide which family can move in, including families that were gay, black, and other things. Notably canceled before it ever aired, but those who did see and review it didn't like it.
- The Swan, as explained here: http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/reviews/2004-04-11-swan_x.htm
- Like The Simple Life, The Swan was inexplicably popular enough to warrant a low-rated second season.
- The Moment Of Truth: No amount of money is worth strapping yourself into a lie detector and answering questions that will ruin your life.
These don't explain why they're bad outside of just describing their premises and assuming that's enough.
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: I looked up Tim And Eric Awesome Show Great Job on this very wiki. It is listed as So Bad Its Horrible (twice - the list of tropes also includes an alt-name), but it is also listed as "Your Mileage May Vary." Your Mileage May Vary is no longer a fully legitimate trope (mileages usually vary); but from what was written, there is a possibility that this is a Love It or Hate It show. If it is one, that takes precedence over this, and the show can't be here. So we need to investigate.
- Sapphire Again: Hear hear. I just removed the alt-name, actually. I myself can't get into the show aside from the guest performers, but the show does seem to have a fanbase.
Midna: Cutting this.
- Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job, which isn't awesome, which isn't good. Its just plain unfunny. Tim and Eric are no talent hacks who degrade the GOOD comedians who come onto their show to becoming incredibly horrible. The only reason why its still on is that Adult Swim doesn't have quality control and it is also because it is incredibly, incredibly cheap to make. Despite this, like some bad shows, it appeals to a certain...niche.
Okay, we get it. You don't like Tim and Eric: Awesome Show, Great Job!. If there are people out there who legitimately enjoy it as stated in that last sentence, it doesn't qualify. Quitcher Complaining About Shows You Dont Like; it's not accepted in this article.
Midna: To whoever put that back in the article; I'm removing it again. Don't put it back in. If it appeals to someone, as is said in the last sentence, then it has no business being on this page. It has to fail to even appeal to that niche to qualify.
JP 4490: Someone put it back in, with that last sentence (about it appealing to a niche) removed. Either someone agrees with it, or someone just won't quit. Either way, conviently removing the admission of it having any fanbase doesn't change whether it's So Bad Its Horrible or not, so cutting it.
Antwan: I've been told that Out Of Jimmys Head is a pretty bad show and it only lasted for 20 episodes before a quick cancellation. Can anybody see if the show has outstandingly low ratings?
Great Pikmin Fan: cut:
- But at least it [My Mother The Car] served as the basis for a terrific Simpsons parody called "The Love-Matic Grandpa" in which Grandpa Simpson dies and comes back as Moe the Bartender's love-testing machine.
natter. Oh, and did MMTC really serve for that? And this is more or less gushing about episodes you like, and if we have every parody, this page would be loaded.
Antwan: No offense, but that was barely natter and it's been there for like...over a year. It never bothered anybody at all. By the way, yes, it did serve for that parody. Putting it back.
Caswin: Full House doesn't belong here. First, it clearly struck a chord with someone. Second, I've seen enough of it to personally attest that it wasn't irredeemable. You're going to have to dig deeper than that.
Great Pikmin Fan: Cut:
- Australia's Naughtiest Home Videos. Total lifespan: less than half an episode. Quoth Kerry Packer:
"Get this shit off my network."
See above in this page. This is more or less a show made to piss off the network. And even if it should stay, there is a much better decription here:
- Australia's Naughtiest Home Videos, a home-video compilation composed entirely of footage of animals having sex (you didn't think they'd broadcast humans doing it, did you?) has the unique distinction of being one of the only television shows literally canceled during broadcast. The show went to commercial, and when broadcast resumed it had miraculously turned into a re-run of Cheers after Nine Network owner Kerry Packer bluntly ordered the broadcasters to "get that shit off the air!"
Great Pikmin Fan: Can someone please elaborate on Whoops!? All the entry does is say that it has dark humor, and that isn't enough for SBiH.
Crazyrabbits: Removed the entries:
- Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus. Horrible acting, massive special effect failures, absence of research, and horrible writing makes this Sy Fy original horrible. This movie blatantly tries to be So Bad, It's Good, but the listed reasons above made it a total failure.
- On the other hand Megashark deciding (for no reason) to jump out of the ocean and destroy an airliner at cruising altitude might be one of the most awesomely ridiculous things ever put on film.
So it's just like every other So Bad, It's Good B-movie aired on Sci-Fi. —EDIT— This is a film released by The Asylum. It's not even a TV movie. As such, it would have been pulled anyway.
- The tokusatsu version of Tetsujin 28, aka Gigantor, from 1960. Tetsujin 28/Gigantor was human-sized due to budget constraints, which somewhat defeats the purpose of having a show like this and a robot named Gigantor. The effects were poorly done: 1958's Gekko Kamen looked much better than this. Tetsujin 28 looked like a tin wind-up toy, and his enemies were Nazi stand-ins. Here's a clip if you can stomach it. It was canceled after thirteen episodes with very low ratings.
The clip didn't even look that bad, and besides, I went to the trouble of looking up the 1963 live-action series on Wikipedia (not 1960, as you mention). It was apparently so popular that it was extended for 13 more episodes beyond its original 84 episode run. It may look cheesy now, but it doesn't count. Especially when a special effect failure is the worst thing you can say about it.
