This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
prescience: Removed this:
- * Badass Normal: Yes, really, in the context of this series she qualifies. Most of the S-rankers are artificial mages, combat cyborgs, the wielder of the Book of Darkness and her bodyguards, or a clone of the Belkan Kaiser. Nanoha's just a talented human mage, but she's more powerful than most of them.
No, that's not what a Badass Normal is. It's about a character being able to kick ass without having superpowers. StrikerS!Teana (mage rank B, Awesomeness by Analysis) barely fits, since Everyone Is a Super. Nanoha (mage rank S+, Beam Spam, Wave Motion Guns) definitely doesn't.
Ramidel: Fair enough, I had it confused with Charles Atlas Superpower.
prescience: Hmm... Charles Atlas Superpower is about characters who don't explicitly have supernatural abilities (like magic). But Everyone Is a Super probably covers that as well — in the Nanohaverse, I guess magic isn't considered a supernatural ability... :p
Ramidel: Close. More specifically, Charles Atlas Superpower is literally "a superpower gained by training really hard," not just a Badass Normal taken out of the Normal range. As Nanohaverse magic is a physical trait that is trained by the equivalent of pumping iron (the parallels are explicitly shown in the material), Nanoha's method of pulling herself into the S-rank qualifies.
bluepenguin: Sorry for rewriting all that, but the grammar was not that great and a lot of stuff was worded awkwardly or unclearly. And sometimes it was just too wordy. I don't blame the person who wrote the page, as English is clearly not their first language, but it did kind of need fixing up.
Also, removed KidAnova from Erio's section since as far as I can remember he wasn't actually one, it's just a fandom joke because he's the only major male character in the season.
Anonymous: Is it really nessesary to misspell Zafira's name ignoring the obvious naming theme and the fact that they clearly pronounce it Zafira?
bluepenguin: I don't care either way, personally (the only spelling I corrected in my rewrite was Harlown to Harlaown; someone else must've done the rest) but I wanted to say that how they pronounce it doesn't mean a thing considering that Japanese doesn't differentiate between an R sound and an L sound.
Susan Davis: Fixed Zafira.
Servbot: On Zafila/Zafira, he's spelled with an 'l' in the official website
, as well as in his ID card
◊, so 'l' has a fairly strong argument of being the right one.
Anonymous: The website, made by the same people how gave us such beautiful words as "ALART" and three different official spellings for the name Haroun or whatever it's written today. Seriously, if it comes Latin letters it might be better to just ignore the "official" sources.
bluepenguin: Anonymous, please put some kind of name in front of your comments, it's confusing otherwise. Anywasy, I do get what you mean about the inconsistency and overall Engrish-ness of the official sources, but... well, if we can't go by the official sources, what can we go by? Something tells me that "consensus" isn't gonna work.
Anonymous: Fate does not have a correct spelling, so use whatever you like. As for Zafira, I consider this the official source for the spelling.
dkellis: Minor change to Yuuno's Stone Wall descriptor: while indeed nothing managed to crack his shields in the anime, in one of the side manga stories, his extra-large extra-strong training barrier was blasted by Nanoha's Starlight Breaker (she'd been training to make it more powerful), and again by a combination Nanoha/Fate/Hayate attack at the end.
Sunder The Gold: Okay. But almost nothing breaking through his shields is nothing to write about, especially considering he never saw as much combat time as the major characters. Just adding "almost" weakens the rest of the sentence to uselessness. So the rest of the sentence needed rewriting or removal. ...Done.
Bob: That is not what a Batman Gambit is.
- Batman Gambit (using the search magic to scan a spaceship for the hiding enemy mage while pretending to be fighting desperately against your own daughter and then shooting the said mage through the entire freaking ship was awesome)
prescience:
Nanoha:
- *Recycled IN SPACE! (The RX-78-2 AS A SCHOOLGIRL LESBIAN!)
Quite amusing, but that isn't what Recycled IN SPACE! is.
- *Schoolgirl Lesbians (The subtext is pretty much just plain text by the third season.)
It's still subtext, though. Heavy subtext, but subtext nonetheless. Schoolgirl Lesbians is for canon lesbians. Also, Nanoha isn't a schoolgirl anymore by then, though that's not so much to the point.
Hayate:
- *Big Bad (In the second season... sorta)
Gil Graham, maybe. Hayate, definitely not.
- *Social Services Does Not Exist: ...
** Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't her paralysis a side effect of the Book of Darkness? I mean, 9 year old living alone isn't much better than paraplegic nine-year-old living alone, but still...
Well, from what I recall, the Book had been around for quite a while before the Wolkenritter appeared, so she would presumably have been suffering from the paralysis already.
Night Okay, explain to me how the whole Sankt Kaizer sequence is not a horrible and comprehensive subversion of Awesome Moment of Crowning. She becomes the incarnation of someone worshipped by a major religion, gets a body to die for, a Cool Ship, and incredible amounts of magical power, enough to fight toe to toe with Miss "I am the boomstick" Nanoha herself despite a total lack of experience or training. This is the kind of thing series culminate with giving the good guys. Too bad about the Brainedwashed And Crazy or towards the end being unable to control her own body as she continues attacking Nanoha against her will.
DKN117 It mentions under Teana's "Weak But Skilled" portion that she's quite powerful by normal standards compared to the [1]s. I... don't remember them ever saying that anywhere. I could've sworn she was, in terms of power, pretty mundane/normal/weak, and that her smarts were the only thing that got her into Riot Force 6.
Second, why is everyone saying Precia Testarossa has a Noblewoman's Laugh? I DO NOT remember her ever doing that. All I remember is a few subdued chuckles and, on a few occasions, a full-blown evil laugh that didn't have the "OH-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-etc." of a Noblewoman's Laugh.
prescience: About Teana being Weak, but Skilled, I was basing that on Vice saying that she's substantially more powerful than he is (twice as powerful, IIRC), and the assumption that he himself is above the level of the average Redshirt.
I can't remember the first season clearly enough to say about Precia's Noblewoman's Laugh. It's probably worth adding Evil Laugh either way, though...
Ramidel: Re: Teana? All There in the Manual that her mage rank (which is a measure of raw power, not skill) reaches AA after Strikers. From the context we get on mage ranks, that's pretty high.
