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His threatening to tear Queen Serenity to bits also falls under this. From his perspective, she had just thrown away the best chance the planet has of surviving on a hopeless mission and basically has doomed the world. It doesn\'t matter that he\'s wrong on the doomed part, and there are plenty of people who would express anger at what they see as wasting the chance of survival on a gamble, and plenty of people may scream things like \
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His threatening to tear Queen Serenity to bits also falls under this. From his perspective, she had just thrown away the best chance the planet has of surviving on a hopeless mission and basically has doomed the world. It doesn\\\'t matter that he\\\'s wrong on the doomed part, and there are plenty of people who would express anger at what they see as wasting the chance of survival on a gamble, and plenty of people may scream things like \\\"I\\\'ll kill you\\\" when extremely angered.

We don\\\'t even find out if Mamoru was actually sleeping with Beryl (the only vague reference to it was Emerald commenting that Mamoru had a large bed for one person, which could mean a number of things), so there\\\'s no need to constantly emphasis rape as if it was an undeniable fact. As I said it was mainly, admittedly mean spirited, verbal jabs that don\\\'t necessarily have weight behind them (e.g. coming home only to find your husband/wife/roommate/etc has evidently burned something in the kitchen and playfully mocking them about trying to burn the house down).

Also, Emerald was not trying to kill Mamoru at least at first. It was only when he had an almost lethal injury inflicted onto him, that he realised there was a real chance of him failing and possibly dying that he had underestimated Mamoru. Even then he only decided to not hold back and it was clear he was still going to try and take Mamoru back alive but if he dies in the process of disabling him then tough luck, remember Emerald doesn\\\'t actually care about him in the grand scheme of things.

Likewise Emerald was in fact conflicted with the Brainwashing thing. He was definitely against the idea of leaving Mamoru behind, if partly for his own interests, and he was more annoyed at the fact that it seems to happen regularly to Mamoru and mocks him for it because he didn\\\'t like him while still fully intending to rescue him.

It\\\'s also noted that the Purification is too diluted to have any real harm on Emerald even when he it was just him, let alone people who contain a diluted trace of his power true he didn\\\'t know exactly what was going to happen but it was reasonable to expect it go ok. Reckless perhaps but not exactly unintentionally unsympathetic.
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His threatening to tear Queen Serenity to bits also falls under this. From his perspective, she had just thrown away the best chance the planet has of surviving on a hopeless mission and basically has doomed the world. It doesn\'t matter that he\'s wrong on the doomed part, and there are plenty of people who would express anger at what they see as wasting the chance of survival on a gamble, and plenty of people may scream things like \
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His threatening to tear Queen Serenity to bits also falls under this. From his perspective, she had just thrown away the best chance the planet has of surviving on a hopeless mission and basically has doomed the world. It doesn\\\'t matter that he\\\'s wrong on the doomed part, and there are plenty of people who would express anger at what they see as wasting the chance of survival on a gamble, and plenty of people may scream things like \\\"I\\\'ll kill you\\\" when extremely angered.

We don\\\'t even find out if Mamoru was actually sleeping with Beryl (the only vague reference to it was Emerald commenting that Mamoru had a large bed for one person, which could mean a number of things), so there\\\'s no need to constantly emphasis rape as if it was an undeniable fact. As I said it was mainly, admittedly mean spirited, verbal jabs that don\\\'t necessarily have weight behind them (e.g. coming home only to find your husband/wife/roommate/etc has evidently burned something in the kitchen and playfully mocking them about trying to burn the house down).

Also, Emerald was not trying to kill Mamoru at least at first. It was only when he had an almost lethal injury inflicted onto him, that he realised there was a real chance of him failing and possibly dying that he had underestimated Mamoru. Even then he only decided to not hold back and it was clear he was still going to try and take Mamoru back alive but if he dies in the process of disabling him then tough luck, remember Emerald doesn\\\'t actually care about him in the grand scheme of things.

Likewise Emerald was in fact conflicted with the Brainwashing thing. He was definitely against the idea of leaving Mamoru behind, if partly for his own interests, and he was more annoyed at the fact that it seems to happen regularly to Mamoru and mocks him for it because he didn\\\'t like him while still fully intending to rescue him.

It\\\'s also noted that the Purification is too diluted to have any real harm on Emerald even when he it was just him, let alone people who contain a diluted trace of his power true he didn\\\'t know exactly what was going to happen but it was reasonable to expect it go ok. Reckless perhaps but not exactly unintentionally unsympathetic. Finally, the \\\"I can guess\\\" part was referring to his Anti-Purification using up all his energy and leaving him to be erased by the temporal paradox.
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His threatening to tear Queen Serenity to bits also falls under this. From his perspective, she had just thrown away the best chance the planet has of surviving on a hopeless mission and basically has doomed the world. It doesn\\\'t matter that he\\\'s wrong on the doomed part, and there are plenty of people who would express anger at what they see as wasting the chance of survival on a gamble, and plenty of people may scream things like \\\"I\\\'ll kill you\\\" when extremely angered.
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Emerald was not doing it in jest, he was doing it in anger. He\'s spent centuries looking for the opportunity to complete his goals and after finding out he\'s almost there only to trip because of some small thing he never considered made him mad. More to the point, he did actually verbally express the desire to kill Luna and was just ranting in his head, how many people would be considered unsympathetic if we took every instance of unexpressed threats made in anger, it really comes across as rather shallow for something extra to add to Unintentionally Unsympathetic.
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Emerald was not doing it in jest, he was doing it in anger. He\\\'s spent centuries looking for the opportunity to complete his goals and after finding out he\\\'s almost there only to trip because of some small thing he never considered made him mad. More to the point, he did not actually verbally express the desire to kill Luna and was just ranting in his head, how many people would be considered unsympathetic if we took every instance of unexpressed threats made in anger, it really comes across as rather shallow for something extra to add to Unintentionally Unsympathetic.
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