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Shoe-horning any of these realms into Christian cosmology is problematic because all three realms can fit Christianity\'s idea of Purgatory, but none of them fit Christianity\'s idea of either Heaven or Hell. Soul Society also doesn\'t fit the closest thing Buddhism has to \'heaven\' either because it\'s still part of the \'reincarnation\' cycle.
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Shoe-horning any of these realms into Christian cosmology is problematic because all three realms can fit Christianity\\\'s idea of Purgatory, but none of them fit Christianity\\\'s idea of either Heaven or Hell (not even the story\\\'s \\\'Hell\\\' realm). Soul Society also doesn\\\'t fit the closest thing Buddhism has to \\\'heaven\\\' either because it\\\'s still part of the \\\'reincarnation\\\' cycle.
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But anyway, \\\"So, you want to bring up politics, or have An Aesop, but can\\\'t bring yourself to fairly represent the other side of the argument? You didn\\\'t read up on the other side\\\'s position, and hope to patch your argument with a little dodgy logic?\\\"
Is very much the opposite of what \\\"rational\\\" is supposed to be. It might still get the wrong answer, but if it\\\'s not trying to get the right answer (not using the right methods to arrive at truth) then it\\\'s bad at rational. Reading up on the other sides position and figuring out what\\\'s true is the important part. Avoiding the war on straw is very much a rationalfic thing.
Is very much the opposite of what \\\"rational\\\" is supposed to be. It might still get the wrong answer, but if it\\\'s not trying to get the right answer (not using the right methods to arrive at truth) then it\\\'s bad at rational. Reading up on the other sides position and figuring out what\\\'s true is the important part. Avoiding the war on straw is very much a rationalfic thing.
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As an aside, souls and an afterlife do exist in the hpmor/harry potter canon. The deathists are correct, but for the wrong reasons, and there\'s not enough in-universe data to figure that out. If you don\'t mind hpmor spoilers, take a look at [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10023949/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Philosopher-s-Zombie harry potter and the philosophers zombie]].
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As an aside, souls and an afterlife do exist in the hpmor/harry potter canon. The deathists are correct, but for the wrong reasons, and there\\\'s not enough in-universe data to figure that out. If you don\\\'t mind hpmor spoilers, take a look at [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10023949/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Philosopher-s-Zombie harry potter and the philosophers zombie]].
But anyway, \\\"So, you want to bring up politics, or have An Aesop, but can\\\'t bring yourself to fairly represent the other side of the argument? You didn\\\'t read up on the other side\\\'s position, and hope to patch your argument with a little dodgy logic?\\\"
Is very much the opposite of what \\\"rational\\\" is supposed to be. It might still get the wrong answer, but if it\\\'s not trying to get the right answer then it\\\'s bad at rational. Reading up on the other sides position and figuring out what\\\'s true is the important part. Which can be a bit of an issue because a lot of people will disagree about what\\\'s actually true, and internet backdraft can occur...
But anyway, \\\"So, you want to bring up politics, or have An Aesop, but can\\\'t bring yourself to fairly represent the other side of the argument? You didn\\\'t read up on the other side\\\'s position, and hope to patch your argument with a little dodgy logic?\\\"
Is very much the opposite of what \\\"rational\\\" is supposed to be. It might still get the wrong answer, but if it\\\'s not trying to get the right answer then it\\\'s bad at rational. Reading up on the other sides position and figuring out what\\\'s true is the important part. Which can be a bit of an issue because a lot of people will disagree about what\\\'s actually true, and internet backdraft can occur...
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As an aside, soles and an afterlife do exist in the hpmor/harry potter canon. The deathists are correct, but for the wrong reasons, and there\'s not enough in-universe data to figure that out. If you don\'t mind hpmor spoilers, take a look at [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10023949/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Philosopher-s-Zombie harry potter and the philosophers zombie]].
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As an aside, souls and an afterlife do exist in the hpmor/harry potter canon. The deathists are correct, but for the wrong reasons, and there\\\'s not enough in-universe data to figure that out. If you don\\\'t mind hpmor spoilers, take a look at [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10023949/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Philosopher-s-Zombie harry potter and the philosophers zombie]].
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There is a distinction, but it\'s probably hard to see if you\'re not part of that group. I don\'t think I\'ve ever seen anyone compared to hitler though. Most of what I\'ve seen has used real arguments by actual deathists. If religion was an issue that needed to be resolved in story then they\'d use real religious arguments.
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There is a distinction, but it\\\'s probably hard to see if you\\\'re not part of that group. I don\\\'t think I\\\'ve ever seen anyone compared to hitler though. Most of what I\\\'ve seen has used real arguments by actual deathists. If religion was an issue that needed to be resolved in story then they\\\'d use real religious arguments.
As an aside, soles and an afterlife do exist in the hpmor/harry potter canon. The deathists are correct, but for the wrong reasons, and there\\\'s not enough in-universe data to figure that out. If you don\\\'t mind hpmor spoilers, take a look at [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10023949/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Philosopher-s-Zombie harry potter and the philosophers zombie]].
As an aside, soles and an afterlife do exist in the hpmor/harry potter canon. The deathists are correct, but for the wrong reasons, and there\\\'s not enough in-universe data to figure that out. If you don\\\'t mind hpmor spoilers, take a look at [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10023949/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Philosopher-s-Zombie harry potter and the philosophers zombie]].
