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For the purposes of clarity I will refer to Brookshaw\'s \
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For the purposes of clarity I will refer to Brookshaw\\\'s \\\"grey void\\\" as \\\'\\\'Sheol\\\'\\\' and the Lower Depths/Inferno as \\\'\\\'Abaddon\\\'\\\'.
> \\\'\\\'What does the Lower Depths have in the way?\\\'\\\'
Sheol isn\\\'t inaccessible: there are paths through the Underworld that lead to it, through which creatures from Sheol may find their way up. Abaddon, on the other hand, is accessible through Wounds in the Shadow or through the rare Hellmouth.
> \\\'\\\'Could I get a full quote with context from \\\"meaningless\\\"?\\\'\\\'
The World of Darkness is supposed to be a TimeyWimeyBall, meaning the cosmology can\\\'t be mapped out with any degree of certainty.
I\\\'m not trying to argue the \\\"one truth\\\" or anything, but I personally feel that the writers have drifted away from the original conceptions (a criticism I also aim at \\\'\\\'Danse Macabre\\\'\\\' and the \\\"Ascension War\\\" described in IM: their thinking is too big and drifts away from the games\\\' original intent as down-to-earth and personally-focused). Therefore, I see \\\"the Lower Depths\\\" as being a label that is unfairly applied In-Character to two separate places with their own unique traits, which also plays very nicely into the theme of hubris.
Sheol and Abaddon are both hellish places inhabited by soul-sucking demons. The same can be said for the Abyss and the Shadow, but it doesn\\\'t mean they\\\'re the same. The fundamental difference between the two is that Abaddon is formed of human vice and depravity, whereas Sheol actually predates the Supernal. That\\\'s it.
> \\\'\\\'What does the Lower Depths have in the way?\\\'\\\'
Sheol isn\\\'t inaccessible: there are paths through the Underworld that lead to it, through which creatures from Sheol may find their way up. Abaddon, on the other hand, is accessible through Wounds in the Shadow or through the rare Hellmouth.
> \\\'\\\'Could I get a full quote with context from \\\"meaningless\\\"?\\\'\\\'
The World of Darkness is supposed to be a TimeyWimeyBall, meaning the cosmology can\\\'t be mapped out with any degree of certainty.
I\\\'m not trying to argue the \\\"one truth\\\" or anything, but I personally feel that the writers have drifted away from the original conceptions (a criticism I also aim at \\\'\\\'Danse Macabre\\\'\\\' and the \\\"Ascension War\\\" described in IM: their thinking is too big and drifts away from the games\\\' original intent as down-to-earth and personally-focused). Therefore, I see \\\"the Lower Depths\\\" as being a label that is unfairly applied In-Character to two separate places with their own unique traits, which also plays very nicely into the theme of hubris.
Sheol and Abaddon are both hellish places inhabited by soul-sucking demons. The same can be said for the Abyss and the Shadow, but it doesn\\\'t mean they\\\'re the same. The fundamental difference between the two is that Abaddon is formed of human vice and depravity, whereas Sheol actually predates the Supernal. That\\\'s it.
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For the purposes of clarity I will refer to Brookshaw\'s \
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For the purposes of clarity I will refer to Brookshaw\\\'s \\\"grey void\\\" as \\\'\\\'Sheol\\\'\\\' and the Lower Depths/Inferno as \\\'\\\'Abaddon\\\'\\\'.
> \\\'\\\'What does the Lower Depths have in the way?\\\'\\\'
Sheol isn\\\'t inaccessible: there are paths through the Underworld that lead to it, through which creatures from Sheol may find their way up. Abaddon, on the other hand, is accessible through Wounds in the Shadow or through the rare Hellmouth.
> \\\'\\\'Could I get a full quote with context from \\\"meaningless\\\"?\\\'\\\'
The World of Darkness is supposed to be a TimeyWimeyBall, meaning the cosmology can\\\'t be mapped out with any degree of certainty.
I\\\'m not trying to argue the \\\"one truth\\\" or anything, but I personally feel that the writers have drifted away from the original conceptions (a criticism I also aim at \\\'\\\'Danse Macabre\\\'\\\' and the \\\"Ascension War\\\" described in IM: their thinking is too big and drifts away from the games\\\' original intent as down-to-earth and personally-focused). Therefore, I see \\\"the Lower Depths\\\" as being a label that is unfairly applied In-Character to two separate places with their own unique traits, which also plays very nicely into the theme of hubris.
Sheol and Abaddon are both hellish places inhabited by soul-sucking demons. The same can be said for the Abyss and the Shadow, but it doesn\\\'t mean they\\\'re the same. The fundamental difference between the two is that Abaddon is formed of human vice and depravity, whereas Sheol actually predates the Supernal.
> \\\'\\\'What does the Lower Depths have in the way?\\\'\\\'
Sheol isn\\\'t inaccessible: there are paths through the Underworld that lead to it, through which creatures from Sheol may find their way up. Abaddon, on the other hand, is accessible through Wounds in the Shadow or through the rare Hellmouth.
> \\\'\\\'Could I get a full quote with context from \\\"meaningless\\\"?\\\'\\\'
The World of Darkness is supposed to be a TimeyWimeyBall, meaning the cosmology can\\\'t be mapped out with any degree of certainty.
I\\\'m not trying to argue the \\\"one truth\\\" or anything, but I personally feel that the writers have drifted away from the original conceptions (a criticism I also aim at \\\'\\\'Danse Macabre\\\'\\\' and the \\\"Ascension War\\\" described in IM: their thinking is too big and drifts away from the games\\\' original intent as down-to-earth and personally-focused). Therefore, I see \\\"the Lower Depths\\\" as being a label that is unfairly applied In-Character to two separate places with their own unique traits, which also plays very nicely into the theme of hubris.
Sheol and Abaddon are both hellish places inhabited by soul-sucking demons. The same can be said for the Abyss and the Shadow, but it doesn\\\'t mean they\\\'re the same. The fundamental difference between the two is that Abaddon is formed of human vice and depravity, whereas Sheol actually predates the Supernal.
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For the purposes of clarity I will refer to DaveB\'s \
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For the purposes of clarity I will refer to Brookshaw\\\'s \\\"grey void\\\" as \\\'\\\'Sheol\\\'\\\' and the Lower Depths/Inferno as \\\'\\\'Abaddon\\\'\\\'.
> \\\'\\\'What does the Lower Depths have in the way?\\\'\\\'
Sheol isn\\\'t inaccessible: there are paths through the Underworld that lead to it, through which creatures from Sheol may find their way up. Abaddon, on the other hand, is accessible through Wounds in the Shadow or through the rare Hellmouth.
> \\\'\\\'Could I get a full quote with context from \\\"meaningless\\\"?\\\'\\\'
The World of Darkness is supposed to be a TimeyWimeyBall, meaning the cosmology can\\\'t be mapped out with any degree of certainty.
I\\\'m not trying to argue the \\\"one truth\\\" or anything, but I personally feel that the writers have drifted away from the original conceptions (a criticism I also aim at \\\'\\\'Danse Macabre\\\'\\\' and the \\\"Ascension War\\\" described in IM: their thinking is too big and drifts away from the games\\\' original intent as down-to-earth and personally-focused). Therefore, I see \\\"the Lower Depths\\\" as being a label that is unfairly applied In-Character to two separate places with their own unique traits, which also plays very nicely into the theme of hubris.
Sheol and Abaddon are both hellish places inhabited by soul-sucking demons. The same can be said for the Abyss and the Shadow, but it doesn\\\'t mean they\\\'re the same. The fundamental difference between the two is that Abaddon is formed of human vice and depravity, whereas Sheol actually predates the Supernal.
> \\\'\\\'What does the Lower Depths have in the way?\\\'\\\'
Sheol isn\\\'t inaccessible: there are paths through the Underworld that lead to it, through which creatures from Sheol may find their way up. Abaddon, on the other hand, is accessible through Wounds in the Shadow or through the rare Hellmouth.
> \\\'\\\'Could I get a full quote with context from \\\"meaningless\\\"?\\\'\\\'
The World of Darkness is supposed to be a TimeyWimeyBall, meaning the cosmology can\\\'t be mapped out with any degree of certainty.
I\\\'m not trying to argue the \\\"one truth\\\" or anything, but I personally feel that the writers have drifted away from the original conceptions (a criticism I also aim at \\\'\\\'Danse Macabre\\\'\\\' and the \\\"Ascension War\\\" described in IM: their thinking is too big and drifts away from the games\\\' original intent as down-to-earth and personally-focused). Therefore, I see \\\"the Lower Depths\\\" as being a label that is unfairly applied In-Character to two separate places with their own unique traits, which also plays very nicely into the theme of hubris.
Sheol and Abaddon are both hellish places inhabited by soul-sucking demons. The same can be said for the Abyss and the Shadow, but it doesn\\\'t mean they\\\'re the same. The fundamental difference between the two is that Abaddon is formed of human vice and depravity, whereas Sheol actually predates the Supernal.
