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\\\"In Real Life, gunpowder and derivative inventions have existed since the High Middle Ages.\\\"
While that holds true for China, it does not seem the case for Europe, which is really what we\\\'re talking about when we refer to a \\\"Middle Age\\\" - the rest of the world doesn\\\'t really match the Western system of ages until the beginning of the Modern Age around 1450. According to TheOtherWiki, the earliest reference is in 1261, after the High Middle Ages ended in 1250, and it further notes:
\\\"Scholars suggest that the lack of gunpowder weapons in a well-traveled Venetian\\\'s catalogue for a new crusade in 1321 implies that guns were unknown in Europe up until this point. From the 1320s guns spread rapidly across Europe.\\\"
It generally seems that the 1320s, and 1326 in particular, were when guns first were acquired in Europe, well into the Late Middle Ages, and even longer when we consider the first use in battle:
\\\"The Battle of Crécy in 1346 was one of the first in Europe where cannons were used.\\\"
So, historically, guns were unknown in Europe until about 1260, nobody had them until 1320, and hardly anyone used them until 1340-1350.
Now, I know I should simply fix things, but this seems to contradict the general thrust of the entire article (that guns existed for significant time frames in Medieval Europe), considering they were essentially only around for the second half of the Late Middle Ages.
While that holds true for China, it does not seem the case for Europe, which is really what we\\\'re talking about when we refer to a \\\"Middle Age\\\" - the rest of the world doesn\\\'t really match the Western system of ages until the beginning of the Modern Age around 1450. According to TheOtherWiki, the earliest reference is in 1261, after the High Middle Ages ended in 1250, and it further notes:
\\\"Scholars suggest that the lack of gunpowder weapons in a well-traveled Venetian\\\'s catalogue for a new crusade in 1321 implies that guns were unknown in Europe up until this point. From the 1320s guns spread rapidly across Europe.\\\"
It generally seems that the 1320s, and 1326 in particular, were when guns first were acquired in Europe, well into the Late Middle Ages, and even longer when we consider the first use in battle:
\\\"The Battle of Crécy in 1346 was one of the first in Europe where cannons were used.\\\"
So, historically, guns were unknown in Europe until about 1260, nobody had them until 1320, and hardly anyone used them until 1340-1350.
Now, I know I should simply fix things, but this seems to contradict the general thrust of the entire article (that guns existed for significant time frames in Medieval Europe), considering they were essentially only around for the second half of the Late Middle Ages.
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So, interestingly, both the Manga and the recut Japanese dub of RWBY cut out Jaune\'s major story arc in Volume 1. Is this a case of DemotedToExtra, AmericansHateTingle or even both?
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