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The ChrisCarterEffect is supposed to trope examples of fandoms feeling like the promised plot is never going to be resolved for <insert reason here>.

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The ChrisCarterEffect is supposed to trope examples of fandoms feeling like the promised plot is never going to be resolved for <insert reason here>. The trope description itself points out that there\'s a difference between a framing device and kicking a can further down the road, but this entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like, misrepresenting the fandom complaints in the process and therefore ignoring the difference between framing devices and kicking cans further down the road.
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolved, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it\'s been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang plotline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint about the show\'s storyline as a whole, but this is a rather minor part of that complaint given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists and the fandom generally views other pacing issues as much more important.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing to keep the Relic of Knowledge relevant. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t a major character in Volumes 1-3 for that assumption to have a likelihood of being accurate. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolved, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it's been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang plotline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint about the show's storyline as a whole, but this is a rather minor part of that complaint given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists and the fandom generally views other pacing issues as much more important.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing to keep the Relic of Knowledge relevant. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

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In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[011] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:52:38 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolved, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it\'s been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang plotline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint about the show\'s storyline as a whole, but this is a rather minor part of that complaint given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists and the fandom generally views other pacing issues as much more important.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing to keep the Relic of Knowledge relevant. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t a major character in Volumes 1-3 for that assumption to have a likelihood of being accurate. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[010] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:51:32 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolved, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it's been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang plotline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint about the show's storyline as a whole, but this is a rather minor part of that complaint given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists and the fandom generally views other pacing issues as much more important.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolved, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it\'s been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang plotline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint about the show\'s storyline as a whole, but this is a rather minor part of that complaint given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists and the fandom generally views other pacing issues as much more important.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing to keep the Relic of Knowledge relevant. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[009] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:50:07 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolved, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it's been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang plotline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolved, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it\'s been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang plotline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint about the show\'s storyline as a whole, but this is a rather minor part of that complaint given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists and the fandom generally views other pacing issues as much more important.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[008] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:48:56 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolved, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it's been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang storyline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

to:

This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolved, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it\'s been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang plotline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[007] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:48:23 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolved, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it's been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

to:

This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolved, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it\'s been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states that the complaint of some fans about the Raven/Yang storyline is {{Anticlimax}} not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[006] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:47:29 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolved, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolved, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed and fans do debate whether or not it\'s been dropped given how it came to exist, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[005] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:46:21 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolve, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

to:

This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolved, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[004] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:45:09 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolve, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

to:

This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten or ignored storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolve, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[003] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:44:43 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolve, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

to:

This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom is complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolve, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[002] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:44:24 PM

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This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolve, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

to:

This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been ticking along in the background of V4-5, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolve, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.

[001] Wyldchyld

9th Mar '18 at 06:43:25 PM

Changed line(s) 3 from:

This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn't like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby's eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she's too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn't that the storyline will never be resolve, it's the way Ruby's eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It's common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn't been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they've also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it's getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it's not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don't like. There is a widespread {{Pacing}} complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they're so dangerous. We don't know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn't giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny's father being

to:

This entry is written as complaining about things the fan doesn\'t like and is misrepresenting the complaints in the process. For example:
* The fandom complaint about the coverage of Ruby\'s eyes in Volumes 4-5 is that she\'s too passive, not that the plotline is never going to get covered again or resolved. It has been, just not in the pro-active manner some fans would prefer. In short, the fandom complaining about VillainsActHeroesReact, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* The dragon being frozen to the tower is again not a forgotten storyline -- the story is currently focussed on a different geographical location but has still managed to get in a few brief references to it. The fandom complaint isn\'t that the storyline will never be resolve, it\'s the way Ruby\'s eyes manifested, the trigger for the power to appear and how easily the dragon was resolved as a result. In other words, the complaint is DeusExMachina, not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* It\'s common knowledge in the fandom that Monty shoved the V2 stinger in at the last moment without telling anyone until it was too late. While the scene (which was portrayed as a dream sequence) hasn\'t been addressed, a scene is not a plotline. This entry openly states complaint of some fans is {{Anticlimax}}, which is not the ChrisCarterEffect.
* Cinder is not TheDragon, she is TheHeavy. Yes, some of the villains are still quite mysterious. However, they\'ve also only been formally introduced in Volume 4 and from the perspective of the villains themselves. However, this complaint appears to be that some fans want answers to questions faster than the show has been giving them. Although it\'s getting closer than any of the previous entries so far, it\'s not so much the ChrisCarterEffect as complaining about things you don\'t like. There is a widespread PacingProblems complaint, but this is a rather minor part of that given that the villains were introduced much more recently than the protagonists.
* The entry is wrong about the Relics being largely unexplained. We know what they are and why they\'re so dangerous. We don\'t know exactly what Salem plans to do with them or how exactly their powers function, but the whole of Volume 5 was about the Relic of Knowledge and the final episode set up Volume 6 as continuing this theme. Clearly the ChrisCarterEffect is not in effect for the Relics. This again seems like complaining that the show isn\'t giving answers as soon as the relevant scenes occur.
* Penny\'s father being \"set up as a future major character\" is very much individual fan opinion, given that Penny wasn\'t exactly a major character in Volumes 1-3. It also cherry-picks given that someone who may be her creator was very briefly seen towards the end of Volume 3. Penny is Atlas specific, it\'s pretty obvious that something Atlas-specific and not part of the main cast, is going to need to wait for the story to focus on Atlas.

In short? I think this is just complaining about things someone doesn\'t like, and misrepresenting some genuine fandom complaints that belong under different tropes to do it. This looks like a candidate for deletion to me.