Ok, here two things that I think needed to be revised. (Also, sorry for my bad grammar)
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Ok, here three things that I think needed to be revised. (Also, sorry for my bad grammar)
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* TheScrappy: Adam Taurus isn't meant to be [[HateSink loved]], but after his BadassDecay in Volume 5 he's now considered a lame villain who's simply obsessed with Blake.
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* TheScrappy: Adam Taurus isn\'t meant to be [[HateSink loved]], but after his BadassDecay in Volume 5 he\'s now considered a lame villain who\'s simply obsessed with Blake.
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I know he's meant to be hated, the problem is when a character is hated for the wrong reasons. For istance, Jafar from Aladdin is meant to be hated, but people like the character (that's why LoveToHate exists), while Governor Ratcliffe from Pocahontas is too meant to be hated, but he's universally disliked because he's a boring villain.
In general I see that Adam falls into the same category, as I don't see anyone liking him even as a character, at best there's someone trying to defend his BadassDecay.
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I know he\'s meant to be hated, the problem is when a character is hated for the wrong reasons. For istance, Jafar from Aladdin is meant to be hated, but people like the character (that\'s why LoveToHate exists), while Governor Ratcliffe from Pocahontas is too meant to be hated, but he\'s universally disliked because he\'s a boring villain.
In general I see that Adam falls into the same category, as I don\'t see anyone liking him even as a character, at best there\'s someone trying to defend his BadassDecay.
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* ContestedSequel: Volume 5, big time. A good chunk of the fandom consider it the worst because of the lack of fights for the majority of the time, and some of them bein lackuster, especially in the final battle, too many [[InfoDump long expositions]] and in general for being the culmination [[FranchiseOriginalSin of all the already existing writing problems]]. Another part loved it for the good moments and interactions between the characters and the attention toward CharacterDevelopment. A third party [[SoOkayItsAverage doesn't like it much]] but considers it an improvement compared to [[ArcFatigue Volume 4]].
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* ContestedSequel: Volume 5, big time. A good chunk of the fandom consider it the worst because of the lack of fights for the majority of the time, and some of them bein lackuster, especially in the final battle, too many [[InfoDump long expositions]] and in general for being the culmination [[FranchiseOriginalSin of all the already existing writing problems]]. Another part loved it for the good moments and interactions between the characters and the attention toward CharacterDevelopment. A third party [[SoOkayItsAverage doesn\'t like it much]] but considers it an improvement compared to [[ArcFatigue Volume 4]].
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Yeah, I see it sounds more of complaining (but to be fair, it's hard to not sound like a complaining when it's addressing the complaining of the fanbase), but I think Volume 5 is definetely a case of ContestedSequel, as there are many people liking and disliking (it's not much of a VocalMinority the complainment), so, how could it be rewritten to sound more balanced?
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Yeah, I see it sounds more of complaining (but to be fair, it\'s hard to not sound like a complaining when it\'s addressing the complaining of the fanbase), but I think Volume 5 is definetely a case of ContestedSequel, as there are many people liking and disliking (and it doesn\'t seem that the criticism is a VocalMinority), so, how could it be rewritten to sound more balanced?
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* InformedWrongness: In Volume 5 Episode 7, Ozpin reveals he gave Qrow and Raven the ability to turn into birds. While Raven implied it was done against their will, it hasn't had any negative ripercussion and both use the ability without any problems, still, Team RNJR, Weiss and Yang react as if he turned them into [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist a chimera a la Nina Tucker]].
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* InformedWrongness: In Volume 5 Episode 7, Ozpin reveals he gave Qrow and Raven the ability to turn into birds. While Raven implied it was done against their will, it hasn\'t had any negative ripercussion and both use the ability without any problems, still, Team RNJR, Weiss and Yang react as if he turned them into [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist a chimera a la Nina Tucker]].
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Zaptech rightfully pointed out it was consensual, but still, for a good chunck of the fandom it was weird (and not in an hateful way, but even joking about it) that the characters reacted negatively to receiving a power which has no negative effects. It's an harmless example (i.e. it doesn't come only from the part of the fandom who hates volume 5 and search anything to bash it), so, does still count?
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Zaptech rightfully pointed out it was consensual, but still, for a good chunck of the fandom it was weird (and not in an hateful way, but even joking about it) that the characters reacted negatively to receiving a power which has no negative effects. It\'s an harmless example (i.e. it doesn\'t come only from the part of the fandom who hates volume 5 and search anything to bash it), so, does still count?
* TheScrappy: Adam Taurus isn't meant to be [[HateSink loved]], but after his BadassDecay in Volume 5 he's now considered a lame villain who's simply obsessed with Blake.
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* TheScrappy: Adam Taurus isn\'t meant to be [[HateSink loved]], but after his BadassDecay in Volume 5 he\'s now considered a lame villain who\'s simply obsessed with Blake.
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I know he's meant to be hated, the problem is when a character is hated for the wrong reasons. For istance, Jafar from Aladdin is meant to be hated, but people like the character (that's why LoveToHate exists), while Governor Ratcliffe from Pocahontas is too meant to be hated, but he's universally disliked because he's a boring villain.
In general I see that Adam falls into the same category, as I don't see anyone liking him even as a character, at best there's someone trying to defend his BadassDecay.
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I know he\'s meant to be hated, the problem is when a character is hated for the wrong reasons. For istance, Jafar from Aladdin is meant to be hated, but people like the character (that\'s why LoveToHate exists), while Governor Ratcliffe from Pocahontas is too meant to be hated, but he\'s universally disliked because he\'s a boring villain.
In general I see that Adam falls into the same category, as I don\'t see anyone liking him even as a character, at best there\'s someone trying to defend his BadassDecay.
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* ContestedSequel: Volume 5, big time. A good chunk of the fandom consider it the worst because of the lack of fights for the majority of the time, and some of them bein lackuster, especially in the final battle, too many [[InfoDump long expositions]] and in general for being the culmination [[FranchiseOriginalSin of all the already existing writing problems]]. Another part loved it for the good moments and interactions between the characters and the attention toward CharacterDevelopment. A third party [[SoOkayItsAverage doesn't like it much]] but considers it an improvement compared to [[ArcFatigue Volume 4]].
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* ContestedSequel: Volume 5, big time. A good chunk of the fandom consider it the worst because of the lack of fights for the majority of the time, and some of them bein lackuster, especially in the final battle, too many [[InfoDump long expositions]] and in general for being the culmination [[FranchiseOriginalSin of all the already existing writing problems]]. Another part loved it for the good moments and interactions between the characters and the attention toward CharacterDevelopment. A third party [[SoOkayItsAverage doesn\'t like it much]] but considers it an improvement compared to [[ArcFatigue Volume 4]].
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Yeah, I see it sounds more of complaining (but to be fair, it's hard to not sound like a complaining when it's addressing the complaining of the fanbase), but I think Volume 5 is definetely a case of ContestedSequel, as there are many people liking and disliking (it's not much of a VocalMinority the complainment), so, how could it be rewritten to sound more balanced?
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Yeah, I see it sounds more of complaining (but to be fair, it\'s hard to not sound like a complaining when it\'s addressing the complaining of the fanbase), but I think Volume 5 is definetely a case of ContestedSequel, as there are many people liking and disliking (it\'s not much of a VocalMinority the complainment), so, how could it be rewritten to sound more balanced?
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* InformedWrongness: In Volume 5 Episode 7, Ozpin reveals he gave Qrow and Raven the ability to turn into birds. While Raven implied it was done against their will, it hasn\'t had any negative ripercussion and both use the ability without any problems, still, Team RNJR, Weiss and Yang react as if he turned them into [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist a chimera a la Nina Tucker]].
Zaptech rightfully pointed out it was consensual, but still, for a good chunck of the fandom it was weird (and not in an hateful way, but even joking about it) that the characters reacted negatively to receiving a power which has no negative effects. It\'s an harmless example (i.e. it doesn\'t come only from the part of the fandom who hates volume 5 and search anything to bash it), so, does still count?
