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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#476: Jan 15th 2020 at 7:16:55 AM

Vampires! That's what the DC CW shows needed! Yeah!

(I'm not even joking, I'm glad they are digging more into the supernatural elements of the DC universe. I just hope that they don't do what the actual comics did and have Nocturna basically rape Kate using hypnosis.)

caivu Since: Sep, 2014
#477: Jan 15th 2020 at 1:15:39 PM

I didn't think they'd get into the supernatural until next season at the earliest, so.. neat. It's a bit of a hard swerve; I wonder how that'll be addressed.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#478: Jan 15th 2020 at 3:32:02 PM

Technically, she debuted in an episode about something Supernatural what with Elseworlds warping reality and all.

But it's easy to forget that Kate's been at this for nearly a year now, since she's already established herself by the time Ollie and Barry bungled into Gotham.

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djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#479: Jan 15th 2020 at 3:56:10 PM

[up][up]I don't see why it needs to be addressed? I mean, we know vampires exist in Arrowverse from Flash (Breacher's arch-nemesis is one), thus, we know Nocturna can exist. She attacks some people in Gotham, she draws the attention of Batwoman.

caivu Since: Sep, 2014
#480: Jan 15th 2020 at 4:08:12 PM

[up]Nothing prior to this has indicated that anyone in Gotham knows they exist, though.

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djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#482: Jan 19th 2020 at 5:36:44 PM

Yeesh.

Kate's taking a lot of shit for someone who just helped save the multiverse.

....she truly is Oliver's successor.[lol]

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#483: Jan 19th 2020 at 5:44:12 PM

Dear Kate, hitting Alice when her back is turned works a lot better than just standing there. tongue

Or, you know, throw another one of your EMP devices and then grab Alice and smash her head against the table for awhile. [lol]

Well at least they finally arrested her.

Edited by Guy01 on Jan 19th 2020 at 6:55:10 AM

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#484: Jan 19th 2020 at 5:52:25 PM

So I guess that cop was Slam Bradley.

I missed the opening four minutes, so I didn't know why they were bringing up the character out of nowhere.

Edit: Wait! What? How is that ending possible?

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jan 19th 2020 at 7:02:57 AM

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#485: Jan 19th 2020 at 6:12:31 PM

[up]Crisis Paradox! Kate probably wished for her to come back and now she's a decomposite character from Alice.

Edited by Guy01 on Jan 19th 2020 at 6:52:21 AM

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#486: Jan 20th 2020 at 2:24:37 AM

Dat ending surprised

Damn it CW, you and your blasted cliffhangers sad

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Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#487: Jan 20th 2020 at 10:29:32 PM

The collapse of the multiverse caused a rash of dobble-gangers. That is not her Beth, it is an "orphan" from an alternate universe. Which, if you think about it, is pretty horrific for that Beth - everyone she ever knew is dead.

... it will probably also be how her dad gets out of prison. Perhaps they cant sell a jury on the truth because the truth is ridiculus as all hell, but if there is a sudden plague of dopplegangers, and they can show he was somewhere else, they have got reasonable doubt right there.

.. actually, this might make Gothams crime problem even worse. How do you convict anyone of anything if a whole bunch of doubles just appeared out of nowhere? You do not just need to prove they did it, you need to prove you have the correct version of that person in custody!

Edited by Izeinsummer on Jan 20th 2020 at 10:33:34 AM

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#488: Jan 20th 2020 at 10:50:40 PM

On The Flash they've established that people from different Earths vibrate at different frequencies, and that this can be used to tell if someone's not from this Earth. Whether they'll remember that plot point, last mentioned in its second season, who knows.

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Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#489: Jan 21st 2020 at 12:38:29 AM

Even if they do, its not super helpful, because the initial crime is not likely to be taking place in a context where there is a vibration scanner pointed at the perp. Useful for old crimes, since it means if the crime is precrisis, you know the criminal is from batwomans earth, but..

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#490: Jan 23rd 2020 at 9:44:19 AM

I thought I read somewhere that Vesper Fairchild was supposed to be gay like her actress. Why's she complaining about "politics in superheroes" after Batwoman reveals she's gay? Or was she just being snarky and I'm thick?

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#491: Jan 23rd 2020 at 9:56:27 AM

I don't think it was specified she was gay.

I think she even mentioned that she had a fling with Oliver Queen during Elseworlds.

But yeah, it is most likely snark. Vesper also has somewhat of a Fair-Weather Friend vibe, so there's that too.

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caivu Since: Sep, 2014
#492: Jan 23rd 2020 at 11:06:55 AM

[up][up] Maddow mentioned in an interview that Vesper is supposed to be completely unlike her.

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#493: Jan 26th 2020 at 5:13:30 PM

EDITED POST

You know, just once, it would be nice to see the murderous psycho who tried to blow up a bunch of kids receive some actual consequences for a change.

Edited by Guy01 on Jan 26th 2020 at 10:04:47 AM

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#494: Jan 26th 2020 at 5:37:02 PM

[up] That's called police brutality, man. Not good.

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#496: Jan 26th 2020 at 5:39:04 PM

[up][up]She's the one running around murdering people and trying to blow up the city. She can deal with the consequences.

Edited by Guy01 on Jan 26th 2020 at 5:39:20 AM

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#497: Jan 26th 2020 at 6:12:56 PM

She's the one running around murdering people and trying to blow up the city. She can deal with the consequences.
She was arrested. That is the consequence. It's not like she's running around free.

Also, she never tried to "blow up the city." It was a gymnasium.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 26th 2020 at 6:13:24 AM

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#498: Jan 26th 2020 at 6:21:51 PM

[up]A bit of an exaggeration maybe but I'm pretty sure she's been trying to blow up innocent people since episode 1.

It's not like she's running around free.

She is now. Because apparently, searching her and the book never occurred to anyone. tongue

Edited by Guy01 on Jan 26th 2020 at 6:22:49 AM

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#499: Jan 26th 2020 at 10:06:13 PM

At any rate, Kate's strategy right now should be to call Flash or Supergirl and have them take Beth somewhere safe and then work with Kate to bring down Alice and turn her over to the GCPD. Then they can figure out how to get Beth back to her world.

Edited by Guy01 on Jan 26th 2020 at 10:09:02 AM

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
caivu Since: Sep, 2014
#500: Jan 26th 2020 at 10:30:38 PM

[up] ...why would they want to return Beth? Ever? That's assuming she even has somewhere to go back to.

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