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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1401: Sep 4th 2018 at 4:11:35 PM

Rather than Dominion, it should just be listed "Septian Church".

The actual existance of Dominions is actually a bit of a spoiler in the early games.

Also, we should change Cassius and Kilika pages elsewhere, as neither are Bracers and the latter isn't even associated with Liberl anymore .

Also, like in the Dragon Age and Avatar pages, we should add separate pages for nations and overall lore.

Lastly, I also suggest a separate page listing the different Jeager groups and the characters associated with them.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 4th 2018 at 8:18:47 AM

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#1402: Sep 4th 2018 at 5:54:22 PM

[up]Kilika goes in the recurring page since (while she doesn't get too much screen time) she's decently important in the Crossbell games and will likely be front and center when we get games in Calvard.

Edited by burnpsy on Sep 4th 2018 at 8:54:31 AM

MrDerpyKid2 Since: Jul, 2015
#1403: Sep 4th 2018 at 6:03:04 PM

I personally feel it defeats the purpose of a crossover if it's just character analogues in the same world. But I definitely will nerf Shirou if I ever do write it.

Also, speaking of character pages, can we spoil out ALL spoilers from Cold Steel III? I ran into the same problem with Millium's page.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#1404: Sep 4th 2018 at 6:05:02 PM

One thought would be to separate the trope lists for each character, by game, into separate folders. Would avoid the Millium problem.

Edited by burnpsy on Sep 4th 2018 at 9:05:29 AM

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#1405: Sep 4th 2018 at 8:06:25 PM

I think spoiling out tropes for unreleased games is fair game for English-speaking fans, but considering the scope and games in the series released, the rest is kind of spoil at your own risk territory, it should be noted on the pages already that tropes apply to all the games. Categorizing everything by game can get messy pretty fast.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#1406: Sep 4th 2018 at 8:11:13 PM

How would we handle Crossbell if splitting off unreleased games? It's not in English officially, but fans have handled them already:

  • Zero's more refined fan translation isn't out yet
    • But the leaked version currently has an OK main story translation on PC
    • A full, acceptable Vita translation exists
  • Azure's current fan translation on PC/PSP is perfectly fine.

MrDerpyKid2 Since: Jul, 2015
#1407: Sep 5th 2018 at 9:53:18 AM

I think the Crossbell games should be spoilered, since not may fans have played them due to them having no English release.

MrDerpyKid2 Since: Jul, 2015
#1408: Sep 5th 2018 at 9:54:18 AM

And regarding Cold Steel spoilers, I agree that spoilers for Cold Steel I and II are fair game. They've been out for years now.

MrDerpyKid2 Since: Jul, 2015
#1409: Sep 5th 2018 at 2:28:45 PM

Sorry for the triple post, but I really want to share glowing by racospalma:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/15732597/chapters/36577845

Some of the cutest Rean/Alisa fluff out there, at least on par with Heero de Fanel. It's just started, but the early chapters show promise.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1410: Sep 5th 2018 at 4:21:15 PM

Ehh, the best Fanfic are the ones that usually don't get finished, so I'm gonna wait until it ends before I read.

As for the spoiler debate, I suggest despoiling the Zero spoilers after the fan edit is done. It's high profile enough, and most of the plot is spoiled by CS, regardless.

Also, the editing team is accepting suggestion for Chest Quotes. Get on it, people!

[up] There's an Edit Post button, dudetongue.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 5th 2018 at 8:21:42 AM

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#1411: Sep 5th 2018 at 5:39:05 PM

Yeah, just trying to think of something halfway decent, don't want to look like a total idiot. But yeah, love they brought that feature into Crossbell.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#1412: Sep 5th 2018 at 8:07:37 PM

most of the plot is spoiled by CS, regardless.

After finishing Zero and playing through most of Azure, I actually disagree with this. Cold Steel mentions details about some events in Azure, but almost nothing from Zero. And the stuff it mentions in Azure are stuff that Azure wants you to take for granted, i.e. you already know the conference will be attacked; that's why you get sent in as part of the security detail, and the azure tree is shown off in Cold Steel 2, but it's in the opening of the game already.

The only spoilers that aren't things like that are Crossbell's declaration of independence, the destruction of Garrelia Fortress and stuff that can only be found in the newspaper article in Cold Steel 2's Divertissement, and even then it requires you to turn around at the start of it to get the article. All of that is mid-to-late Azure stuff.

EDIT: Correcting myself just a little, Cold Steel 2 does reveal that Rixia is Yin from Zero. That's all I've got.

Edited by burnpsy on Sep 6th 2018 at 6:01:46 AM

MrDerpyKid2 Since: Jul, 2015
#1413: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:15:32 PM

I know that this is going to start a war...but fuck it.

Who do you think is the strongest combatant in the series?

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#1414: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:17:50 PM

I mean are we counting the giant god monsters or just humans?

If it's the latter I think it's Victor, Cassius, or McBurn.

Edited by LordVatek on Sep 13th 2018 at 9:20:03 AM

This song needs more love.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#1415: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:45:01 PM

By the end of the series I expect Estelle Rean and Laura to likely be the top 3 humans. Everyone else will get removed from the equation in some way.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#1416: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:05:50 PM

The answer of course is Orbal Gear Tita.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1417: Sep 15th 2018 at 2:15:14 PM

Can we not get into that kinda debate. There's enough of that shit in Space Battles.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#1418: Sep 15th 2018 at 2:19:04 PM

That's true. Trails isn't really the series for that anyway.

MrDerpyKid2 Since: Jul, 2015
#1419: Sep 16th 2018 at 1:27:35 PM

Do you think Kevin with be in Cold Steel IV? Given how he's the Fifth Dominion and all, I would think that he would show up.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#1420: Sep 16th 2018 at 2:11:30 PM

If he did, that'd complete the protagonist roster. It'll be full on Infinity War at that point.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1422: Sep 16th 2018 at 4:11:27 PM

[up][up]Well, Kevin does have one thing in common with Thanos...

[up]Oh hey, didn't know you came around these parts, how's Nerofest treating you?

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 16th 2018 at 8:18:58 AM

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#1423: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:46:50 PM

What's he have with Thanos? Also just saying, Thanos vs CS 4 Rean would be the fight of a lifetime. By the looks of things, the Liberl cast has hit the point where it's all in or nothing to deal with things. It says something about the state of Erebonia right now that a large chunk of the other games' casts have to step in now to keep this from getting even worse.

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#1424: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:51:03 PM

All this talk of Trails and Thanos makes me wonder if something like this might happen later down the line.

GRANDMASTER: I know what it's like to lose. To know so desperately that you're right, yet lose all the same. Dread it. Run from it. Destiny still arrives.

Edited by kkhohoho on Sep 16th 2018 at 9:50:41 AM

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#1425: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:52:50 PM

[up][up][up]'S alright.

[up][up]I still find it funny how Cold Steel IV is the game where pretty much everyone is coming in to fight a common enemy... and Zin is still MIA. Like I'm sure he'll get plenty of screentime in the Calvard arc but right now he's the only FC party member who hasn't shown up past the Liberl games.

[up]Oh my god the Sept-Terrions are totally Infinity Stones.

Edited by LordVatek on Sep 16th 2018 at 10:58:44 AM

This song needs more love.

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