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1[[WMG:Ofelia is not the princess, her sibling (who is not a boy, but a girl) is.]]께'''Spoiler alert.''' Stay with me here.께Part 1) After the child is born, we never heard anyone say what gender the baby is in any sort of authoritative capacity. Vidal is so obviously obsessed with having an heir that he won't entertain the notion of the child being a girl (The "Don't fuck with me" scene.) We never saw Ofelia check, and if the baby never left Vidal's room after the birth, we might assume that Ofelia took Vidal's assertion at face value. The only discrepancy is that at the end (and possibly once or twice earlier,) Mercedes gives her memorable line in which she calls the baby "he." This could be explained away by saying that Mercedes merely wanted to be pithy, not explain that the child is a girl to the deluded man.께Part 2) The ending scene, as someone may have remarked below, smacks of duplicity on the part of the Faun. The theory: The Faun wanted Ofelia's blood to open the portal, through which he would take the Princess. He couldn't very well prick/stab/bleed Ofelia with the baby in her arms, and there is no way that Ofelia would set the child down, so the Faun wanted to grab the Princess, prick/stab/bleed Ofelia, and then leave her. This, of course, indicates that the last scene in the Fae-world is a hallucination or [[ImagineSpot Imagine Spot]] of Ofelia's. It's in a distinctly different color tone than the other fey places; even the Pale Man's lair is a darker, burnished bronze than the finale's gleaming gold.께* Interesting, but how does this explain Ofelia's moon-shaped birth mark? Was it just a hallucination?께[[WMG:Ofelia's "father" is not actually her father.]]께'''Spoiler alert.''' At the end of the film, after Ofelia quietly protests throughout that Captain Vidal is not her father, nor will she call him so, she is brought to the Underworld. She looks up and smiles and says, "Father." Cut to: An old man with white hair, who congratulates her and welcomes her home. Cut to Ofelia's biological mother, smiling proudly. Though it's not impossible, it's likely that Ofelia has been raised all her life by her mother and ''maternal grandfather'', whom she calls "Papa" following her mother's example. Her biological father was never part of her life, but she never noticed or realized the discrepancy. This also beautifully subverts Captain Vidal's obsession with having a biological son to carry on his name and legacy -- Ofelia's "father" carried on a legacy of love despite not being her biological father at all.께Alternately, the man that greets Ofelia at the end of the film was totally unrelated to her, just a kind, reliable man that Ofelia's mother married when she realized she was pregnant without a husband. However, he did prove to be a wonderful father and caring husband, which ''also'' subverts Captain Vidal's philosophy.* Or he was the king of the Underworld, her original father, who set up the portal specifically to get her back. As to why her human mother was there -- well, the Faun said that she gestated in the Moon, so it's possible that the king was a TrulySingleParent and gave Ofelia's mother one of the big thrones as a reward for raising his daughter in her second life. In Myth/CelticMythology (I think,) fairyland was the afterlife, and Ofelia's mother did die quite close to the portal.** One interesting question that stuck with me -- if she is her mortal mother, rewarded with a crown in the land of fairies... Who (and whose) is that baby? Is it a time-displaced version of Ofelia's kid brother, or have her mom and the king gotten to know each other?*** Maybe it was more of a parallel self thing. The Queen wasn't Ophelia's mother, she was the princess's mother (that is, the mother of Ophelia's past self.) It just happened that her mortal mother in her final human life looked like the princess's mother. It just so happened that the King and Queen had a baby like Ophelia's little brother. Keep in mind that it was Ophelia's spirit/soul that mattered and went to what was essentially a different dimension (the fairy world.)*** Perhaps instead of just abandoning the Princess, the Queen takes a mortal form to watch over the various incarnations of her daughter. She couldn't bring her back to Faerie or even interfere magically, but she could act as a kind of guardian angel.* A Clarification: If we assume that both of the people who greet Ofelia in the underworld are her underworld parents, taking on [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith a form she is comfortable with]] -- her own parents from her mortal life. If they're fairies, they may be able to shapeshift, so why not greet their daughter in the way she would be most comfortable? In other words, he just intentionally ''looks'' like Ofelia's human "father" -- who might have been only her father in name (and in spirit.)께[[WMG:Captain Vidal is actually a supernatural being, but with almost no knowledge of his true self.]]께Though Vidal's father is known as a military leader of some repute, almost nothing is known or said of his mother: Perhaps Vidal's conception involved a sordid affair with one of TheFairFolk, or perhaps he was an adopted orphan of supernatural stock.께One way or another, this explains not only his mysterious ability to teleport from time to time, but also his high pain threshold and sadistic nature. However, since he has never learned to use his powers at anything beyond an instinctual level, he is unable to see anything magical in the area or even acknowledge his own teleportations. However, the soldiers under Vidal's command ''do'' notice, and fear him all the more for it.께[[WMG:Vidal's son is a some sort of supernatural reincarnation in his own right.]]께Not only is he carved into the same pillar which has the engravings of the Faun and Ofelia, but he seems to have little horns on his brow in the relief. If those aren't a sign of supernatural heritage, I don't know what is.께[[WMG:The Faun and fairy world were evil all along...]]께...And Ofelia wasn't really the Princess, and it really was just a fairy tale. After the way the Faun acts toward Ofelia, and all the arbitrary psychological abuse he puts her through, that was the ending I was ''expecting'', and I think it makes more sense, even in light of the last scene. Is it possible that Ofelia's reuniting with her parents is a cruel deception that will be shattered by an intruding Hell or real death?* In other words, it's a fantastical version of the SpanishPrisoner scheme?* You're not very familiar with old school fairy tales, in that case. The Faun is not good per se from human perspective -- he's wild and unpredictable -- but he ''is'' a loyal servant, and even though he doesn't care much for humans, he is very fond of his Princess. This is Wild Mass Guessing, but this guess is so common it's hardly wild any more, yet the WordOfGod has {{Jossed}} it repeatedly, along with the "no supernatural" explanations. People always spoil even the most beautiful concepts with DarkerAndEdgier interpretations.** And it's not if if it's not dark and edgy already.께[[WMG:The supernatural creatures seen in the film are actually natives of the Franchise/CthulhuMythos universe, and the Faun is Nyarlathotep.]]께Obviously, Faun/Nyarlathotep wanted Ofelia reunited with her EldritchAbomination parents for an upcoming scheme, and he also wants her to get rid of a few potential rivals along the way: so, to stop her from going completely insane, [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm he protected her vision with illusions of fairy-tale creatures]]. By the end of the film, Ofelia has transformed into some Lovecraftian horror, two out of the three rivals have been killed, and there is a portal still open at the bottom of the labyrinth; either the Apocalypse is arriving earlier than expected, or at the very least, UsefulNotes/{{Spain}} will be experiencing some demonic infestation for months onwards.* Some reached a similar conclusion, namely, that the portal is not so much a portal as the seal over a {{Sealed Evil In A Can}} {{Eldritch Abomination}} that will now eat Spain. Ofelia was simply the necessary sacrifice to break the Seal, and the Faun manipulated her because the seal could only be broken by someone innocent doing rather horrible things, hence the Tasks.께[[WMG:It was all real, except the ''end''.]]께[[DownerEnding They really wanted her brother's blood. She failed them. The final scene is a hallucination brought on by blood loss and lack of oxygen. The Faun was telling the truth all along; they just wanted a little bit of blood, and there was no need to over-react like that. Everybody in Faerieland is laughing at her. She is dead, and no-one will know once Mercedes and the others in the Rebellion are slaughtered.]]* Denied by WordOfGod.께[[WMG:The fantastic elements are all in Ofelia's head; she creates them to give herself hope.]]께Think about it. No one else can see the creatures (neither Vidal at the end nor her mother when throwing the mandrake root in the fire noticed the faun and the mandrake's screams, respectively.) The first time she sees something magical is when she replaces the statue's eye; she easily could've fooled herself into believing that caused something magical, which later led to [[MagicalGirlQueenlinessTest a chance to regain her kingdom]]. The worse her life gets, the more influence fantasy has (at first, she is led to the faun; the faun later comes to her.) She is the only one who takes any notice of the mark on her shoulder, and she only seems to notice it after the faun mentions it. No one interacts with the key she finds in the toad, and she easily could have found chalk and fooled herself into believing that a faun gave it to her. Same goes for the mandrake; she could have found a random piece of wood and simply imagined that it moved. When she dies at the end, she is actually dying: she simply imagines herself in her "kingdom", which explains why she sees her mother in there.* All Jossed by WordOfGod. See [[ this interview]].%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%Why don't people stop it? Re-affirm what we should have learned in logic. Regardless of what the "right" answer is, we as observers should be able to discuss what we think it means. They are opinions. Mr. Del Toro may know what the fact answer is, but what's the point of their being discussion if all we want is the "fact?" Speaking on art shouldn't be about who's right or wrong, but about why we like it, why we relate it to this, why we think it's like this, and how we can defend it. Let's have fun, not arguments.%%%%%%% Other parts of the counterparts%%%%%* She didn't imagine her way out of a locked room. The director himself said that the magic chalk was the only way out. Vidal never re-entered the room and ordered her to be shot if anyone else tried to enter, so she couldn't have really snuck out like that. Presumably the guards were distracted or dead when Mercedes came in, but if Ophelia was still there why would she hide? She knew Mercedes, trusted her, and would have had no problem leaving with her.%%%%%%%* The mandrake ''did'' seem to have some healing powers though, since her mother got significantly better when it was used and was in great pain when it was burned. It could have been coincidence, but it seems unlikely that she would heal so much with its arrival and be hurt so much by its destruction purely by chance. Also, the director said that just because Vidal couldn't see the Faun didn't mean that it didn't exist. It just meant he wasn't capable of seeing it.께[[WMG:Ofelia reincarnates into Sarah from Film/{{Labyrinth}}.]]께And her brother becomes Toby, who, in her new form, she lashes out at for assuming her rightful place in the goblin kingdom. She even has a stepmother in the future, if I remember correctly.께[[WMG:Mercedes made the tests when she was young, but failed.]]께She lives next to the labyrinth. She knows about fauns. She has a younger brother. When she sees the chalkboard line on the wall near the end she immediately leads the rebels to the labyrinth.께[[WMG:The supernatural monsters Ofelia faces are reflections of the human monsters in the mundane world.]]께The Captain hosts a dinner party early in the film for his two particular friends: the local mayor, a businessman who has grown rich under the Francoist government and a churchman (a bishop, in fact) who, we can only assume, sees nothing unchristian in the behavior of the regime.께The first monster, the giant toad, is described as 'growing fat while the tree dies'. Much like a corrupt man profiteering off the misery of the civil war, and still getting rich thanks to the Francoists. He is the mayor.** Yes, a literal ''toad'' as well. The tree is also a clear and widely used metaphor to a nation or community.께The second monster, the oh-so-wonderful Pale Man, is the bishop. He lives in an ecclesiastical-looking room, has stigmata of sorts and attacks you if you eat the forbidden fruit.** Lest we forget, he is a children eater as well (a stereotypical paedopriest). ''And'' has no (conventional) eyes, which is once again a hint to the ancient Mediterranean appearance of a "wise, old, and mystical religious community leader," this being a BlindSeer (such as Teiresias.)께The third monster, in both worlds, is Captain Vidal. He's just that bad.** I love this idea. I never even thought about it before now, but the next time I watch it, I will look out for the mayor and the bishop!께[[WMG:The Pale Man is an [[IronicHell ironic tormentor]].]]께His victims steal things from his table because they see that it's there and immediately determine it to be theirs for the taking. In a way, they "look" with their hands.께[[WMG:Ofelia will bring light to the Underworld.]]께The movie says that the Underworld knew neither pain nor sunshine, and that is why the princess left. Now that the princess has been to the human world, and knows of both pain and sunshine, she will be able to share either as she chooses with her people.께[[WMG:The Faun is...]]께* A servant or herald of the king and queen of the Underworld. When they heard that Ofelia was near one of the portals to the Underworld, they sent the Faun to see if it was really their child, and to make sure she wasn't corrupted by the mortal world through various tests.* An enemy of the king and queen of the Underworld. It is almost certain by the end that Ofelia is their lost daughter (by virtue of her birthmark,) but it is less clear if she succeeded in entering the Underworld properly by the shedding of her own innocent blood in the portal, or if the ending sequence is merely her dying dream. If it is the latter, then the Faun may have tricked her with his series of tests, corrupting her soul himself for whatever reason to prevent her being truly reunited with her family.* An interested third party. He is neither an ally nor an enemy of the Royal Court, but he could sense Ofelia's changeling blood, and for his own reasons pointed her on the path back home, just to see what would happen. Whether or not he succeeded is unclear, but then Fey tend not to have any long-term interest in the ways of mortals, so at worst he might be like, "Oh, my toy broke." and then wander off.* A guardian angel. He has foreknowledge of Ofelia's death, and his main task is to prepare her for the afterlife. To accomplish this, he sets himself up as a faun (as well as the Pale Man) and his companions as fairies, to arrange a scenario to test Ofelia that she might understand and find more palatable.께[[WMG:Ofelia actually passed the second test]]께* In Ofelia's eyes and the eyes of the audience the Pale Man is clearly evil. Ofelia is clearly horrified by him, even before he awakens. Then she opens the box and finds a dagger. While watching the movie for the first time, I expected her to kill the monster with that weapon. Yet she does not hurt him, neither when he is defenseless, nor when he is attacking her and threatening her life. The Faun knew that Ofelia would eat something and wake the Pale Man up. The true test was whether she would fight him or let him live. During the first test Ofelia learned that beings which threaten the Underworld need to be punished/killed, during the second test she learned that unless a Fae poses a threat to the Underworld, it is her duty to watch over it, no matter how evil it may seem.께[[WMG: ''36/63'' will follow up on the film even if it's in a small way]]'''Spoilers for both ending of the film and ''Film/TheDevilsBackbone'''''께My main piece of evidence is small, but important in that there's a quick appearance by Carlos and Jaime from ''The Devil's Backbone'' as some of the rebels, [[spoiler: who get shot to death during Mercedes' escape]]. So not only ''The Devil's Backbone'' is the film's spiritual prequel, but they exist in the same universe. So it would make sense that when it leaves DevelopmentHell, ''36/63'' will follow that up with the survivors of that film. Even more so considering the small , but still unanswered questions at the end regarding the fates of the rebels and Ofelia's baby brother. Sure it's clear that it's most likely Mercedes and her brother raising them, but also keep in mind that Francoism didn't end until '''1975''' almost twenty years after the film takes place. So that leaves the fate of Ofelia's brother even more ambiguous, as in if he was raised by the rebels and joins the cause at age or were the rebels captured and executed and the baby adopted by a new family. Either way, he would have no idea about his biological (or possibly adoptive) family. Hell, maybe that could be a twist ending for one of the characters especially if the latter option is taken. But the only way to find out is to wait for 36/63 to come out and hopefully not be canceled.께[[WMG: Vidal killed Carmen's first husband]]콿felia's father was a tailor that worked for Captain Vidal, and when Carmen is telling the story of how he found her again after her husband's death, even his dinner guests make remarks about how convenient it was that he did. Given the behavior he exhibits throughout the film, it's not too hard to imagine he may have killed Ofelia's father for a chance at her mother. MurderTheHypotenuse.** According to del Toro, he was indeed hinting at this, and wanted the viewers to decide on their own whether it was true.** Jossed in the novelization. It's revealed Death came to Ofelia's father and let him live long enough to finish the dress he was working on for his daughter. The tailor begged for Death to let Ofelia live longer; all Death could promise was hold off until Ofelia outgrew that dress. 께[[WMG: Ofelia's sacrifice promised the Franco regime would be overthrown]]콹t took several decades, but fascism eventually ended in Spain. The reason is that the little actions -- the rebels fighting to save Mercedes and kill Vidal, Ofelia refusing to sacrifice her little brother -- created sparks of hope and stories that you can fight evil, even if you lose your life or dignity. As fairy tales give us hope that we can change our circumstances even when trapped in the worst scenarios, Ofelia's story gave hope to the people that came after her brother and Mercedes eventually passed on that they could rise up and win. ----


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