Line #83 Recap/Daredevil2015S2E3NewYorksFinest


1	->''"Only I do the one thing that you can't! You hit em and they get back up, I hit em and they stay down! It's permanent! I make sure that they don't make it out on the street again! I take pride in that!"''
2	-->-- '''Frank Castle'''
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4	With Frank having captured Matt, the two discuss morality while Karen tries to learn more about the Punisher and what the DA is hiding.
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6	!! Tropes featured in this episode include:
7	* BadassBoast: Matt gets one before the Dogs of Hell hallway fight.
8	-->'''Matt:''' Get inside, lock the door.\
9	'''Old Vet:''' What about you?\
10	'''Matt:''' [whips out lightbulb with chain on wrist] I'm good.
11	* BatterUp: Several of the Dogs of Hell arm themselves with bats.
12	* BerserkButton: Frank spends a lot of time yelling at Matt during their argument on the roof, but it's when Matt calls him a nutjob that he goes dead-faced and stands up, TranquilFury, "What'd you say?" and when Matt reiterates that he's insane, Frank knocks him out with a WrenchWhack.
13	* BlatantLies: Turns out Grotto has been downplaying his status on the hierarchy to Nelson & Murdock. To them, he's made himself seem like a low-level grunt who just does deliveries. On the rooftop, Frank Castle makes him admit to carrying out an assassination to move himself up in the organization, during which he also killed an old lady who was a witness to his crime.
14	* BloodKnight: Matt's face breaks out into a manic grin just before he charges into battle against the Dogs of Hell.
15	* BothSidesHaveAPoint: Frank points out that his method makes sure criminals never hurt anybody ever again, while Matt responds that he is taking away their chance to change their ways. Their argument climaxes effectively around Grotto, a career criminal whom the audience has gotten to known and who shows the potential to redeem himself, is convincingly begging for mercy, but nonetheless has killed innocents.
16	--> '''Matt Murdock:''' You run around this city like it's your damn shooting gallery--\
17	'''Frank Castle:''' Yeah, what do you do?! What do you do?! You act like it's a playground, you beat up the bullies with your fists, you throw 'em in jail, everybody calls you a hero, right? And then a month, a week, a day later, they're back on the streets doing the same goddamn thing!\
18	'''Matt Murdock:''' So you just put 'em in the morgue.\
19	'''Frank Castle:''' You're goddamn right I do.
20	* ChainPain: Matt uses the chain still attached to his wrist against both Frank and the Dogs of Hell.
21	* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Karen convinces Blake Tower to hand her information on the Punisher case by showing him that Reyes has a habit of stabbing others in the back to save her own ass.
22	-->'''Karen Page:''' Your boss said she could take down a firm like ours pretty quickly?\
23	'''Blake Tower:''' She wasn't lying.\
24	'''Karen Page:''' Huh. So... she could also take down someone like you?\
25	''[Karen takes some manila folders out of her purse and puts one down on Tower's desk]''\
26	'''Karen Page:''' ADA Elliott James. Took the fall after Reyes mishandled informants in the, uh, Teller case about a year ago. ''[pulls out another folder]'' Nicole Kent. Got booted from your office after she failed to quiet the Ensent scandal. ''[pulls out another folder]'' And Chris Davidson. Did you meet him? Fired after the State Supreme Court disqualified ''your entire office'' from the Pell case due to "widespread misconduct". Widespread! But not everyone got fired. See, Reyes walked out in one piece. She's good at throwing people to the wolves. So sure. She can take down Nelson & Murdock this month. But how long before ''you'' are getting pulled into the shit with the rest of us?
27	* ColdBloodedTorture: Frank brutalizes Grotto until he admits to murdering an old woman.
28	* CombatPragmatist: Matt has a chain connected to one wrist and an empty gun duct-taped to his other hand when he fights the bikers. He makes creative use of this by [[ChainPain using the chain as a lash]] and [[PistolWhip pistol-whipping]] the villains.
29	* CommonalityConnection:
30	** The tension between Castle and the caretaker vanishes when they realise they're both war veterans. When Matt tries to empathize with Castle he rejects it, as Matt's experiences simply don't compare to [[WarIsHell what he experienced in war.]]
31	** Foggy and Claire bond over their shared concern for Matt.
32	* ContinuityNod:
33	** [[Recap/JessicaJones2015S1E13AKASmile Removing Luke Cage from the hospital]] caused Claire to get stuck on emergency room duty during a graveyard shift.
34	** Matt makes a remark to Frank that is eerily similar in tone and message to Jessica's tirade against Audrey Eastman:
35	--->'''Matt:''' Who did you lose? Huh? Was it someone you loved? Well boo-hoo. Let me tell you something, buddy: everybody's lost someone. It doesn't mean you have to do this.
36	* CrackingUp: Matt does the neck version after fighting his way to the ground floor, only to find more bikers waiting for him.
37	* CrapsackWorld: Frank Castle's antics have caused some gangs to go to war with each other, each thinking another is responsible for his kills. The blood is so bad that they're trying to settle scores ''in the emergency room'' and don't care if ER staff or bystanders get hurt. One such scuffle breaks out while Foggy is at the hospital trying to look for Matt, and he's forced to use his lawyer skills to talk them down.
38	* CrowbarCombatant: One of the Dogs of Hell attacks Matt with a crowbar.
39	* DeathByAdaptation: In the comics, Grotto is part of an EvilDuo alongside Turk; here, he's killed by the Punisher instead.
40	* DramaticGunCock: Frank is trying to convince the building caretaker he's just using to roof to have a smoke, while holding his revolver behind the door ready to fire. Matt accuses him of being willing to shoot an innocent civilian, but Frank claims it was actually this trope as a warning for Matt, who was trying to free himself from his chains, causing the caretaker to wonder what the noise was.
41	* EveryCarIsAPinto: With a single shot, Frank blows up a Dogs of Hell chopper. Somewhat better justified than is usually the case, because Frank is an expert in this sort of shit, but fuel just isn't that explosive.
42	* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: Matt claims that everybody has lost someone and that this is still no excuse for Frank to kill. He even gives Frank a mocking "boo-hoo," akin to [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2014 Rocket and Drax]].
43	* GiantMook: The big biker who beats up Matt and gives him a considerably tougher fight than his comrades.
44	* HallwayFight: Matt fights off the Dogs of Hell starting in the hallway of an apartment building, which eventually leads to a stairwell fight.
45	* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Matt chokes Frank unconscious with the chains he used to tie him to the chimney.
46	* ImprovisedWeapon: A whole lot of them appear in this episode, most prominently Matt's {{chain\|Pain}} and [[PistolWhip empty revolver]]. He can't let go of either, thanks to Castle, so he puts them to use against the Dogs of Hell.
47	* ItWorksBetterWithBullets: Averted. The SadisticChoice offered to Matt by Frank is lifted from the comics, but this time, the gun really is loaded with a single bullet. Later played straight when Matt, having used the bullet to free himself, [[WeaponForIntimidation holds one of the Dogs of Hell at "gunpoint"]] in order to get a civilian out of harm's way before the smackdown in the hallway/stairwell.
48	* JustFollowingOrders: Grotto tries to use this justification when Frank brings up a very specific job.
49	* KnightTemplar: Frank is firmly this, unwavering in his commitment to and belief in his cause, stating that Daredevil's heroics are ultimately a futile half-measure that only prolongs the inevitable.
50	* MacheteMayhem: Some of the Dogs of Hell are carrying machetes.
51	* MotiveRant: The entire episode is basically one big motive rant for both Frank and Matt, defending their respective approaches.
52	* MythologyGag:
53	** Frank and Matt's confrontation is a direct reference to a scene between the two written by Creator/GarthEnnis in the acclaimed arc ''ComicBook/ThePunisherWelcomeBackFrank'', lifting several quotes. Although as the TV show is less biased towards the Punisher, the confrontation ends rather differently.
54	** Matt calling out Frank for acting like he's special because he lost someone echoes a conversation he had with Frank's protege in the "Omega Sanction" arc.
55	** The landlord being a Marine veteran from the Vietnam War is an allusion to Frank's original background.
56	** The large x-ray that Karen pulls from Punisher's file shows a human skull, reminiscent of Punisher's symbol in the comics, albeit this one has a [[TisOnlyABulletInTheBrain hole in the head reminiscent of a gunshot wound]].
57	* TheNicknamer: Castle calls Daredevil "Red", not being impressed by "The Devil of Hell's Kitchen". When Matt says he never chose that name, Castle points out (given Matt's devil superhero costume) that he hasn't rejected it either.
58	* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Matt inflicts this on the Punisher, and later on the Dogs of Hell that come knocking.
59	* NotSoDifferentRemark: Frank tells Matt that he is "one bad day away" from being a guy like him.
60	* OhCrap: Matt's demeanor changes when Frank asks Grotto "What about the old woman?"
61	* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: Frank tracks down, catches, and brings in Grotto in the time it takes Matt to regain consciousness from the WrenchWhack on the roof.
62	* PayEvilUntoEvil: Frank's philosophy is made ''very'' clear.
63	* PipePain: Some of the Dogs of Hell bikers use metal pipes.
64	* PragmaticVillainy: Invoked when Foggy, from an attorney to a criminal, decides it's more likely to work than appealing to their better natures.
65	* PrecisionFStrike: Frank gives probably the first one in the MCU to date during his argument with Daredevil.
66	-->'''Matt:''' Let me ask you this.\
67	'''Frank:''' What's that?\
68	'''Matt:''' What about hope?\
69	'''Frank:''' ''[annoyed]'' Oh, fuck. What, like Santa Claus? You wanna talk about Santa Claus?
70	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Foggy gives an epic one to the gangbangers who try to start attacking each other in the ER, managing to talk them down in the process.
71	* RejectedApology: Grotto calls Karen from a payphone. Karen tries to apologize for not anticipating Reyes' double-cross, but Grotto is in no mood to take an apology.
72	* TheOner:
73	** Matt's fight with the Dogs of Hell is a direct sequel to the iconic one-shot HallwayFight in the first season, though this one actually has a few hidden cuts and doesn't maintain the concept the entire fight. Just as well, because it would have been impossible to film otherwise.
74	** Less showy but still impressive is Foggy and Claire's conversation as they traverse the busy hospital.
75	* SadisticChoice: Frank gives Matt the choice to let him shoot Grotto or kill Frank to prevent it. Matt [[TakeaThirdOption shoots his chains instead]], but is unable to stop Frank from shooting Grotto.
76	* SeeYouInHell: During the SadisticChoice above:
77	-->'''Matt:''' Go to hell!\
78	'''Frank:''' Too late.
79	* SecretIdentityApathy: Castle never bothers to unmask Daredevil, as he simply doesn't care about his SecretIdentity. Castle himself doesn't bother with a mask--he's a soldier and feels no need to hide behind one, either to protect his identity or separate his actions from the man who commits them.
80	* SelfStitching: What Frank is doing when Matt wakes up chained to a chimney.
81	* SemperFi: Frank says this to the old man, who was in the "Fighting Third" in 'Nam.
82	* ShutUpKirk: Frank eventually has enough of Matt's speech about the inherent "goodness" in the people he kills, and knocks Matt out with a [[WrenchWhack wrench to the face]].
83	* SpannerInTheWorks: Matt has Frank in the elevator and it's going to close before the Dogs of Hell can get to them, but the older veteran steps out of his apartment, forcing Matt to go back and save him (and subsequently fight his way through the entire gang to escape). During the fray, the Punisher wakes up and is able to slip away. Though it's debatable how far Matt would have gotten with an unconscious Frank even if he had managed to get to the ground floor first.
84	* SteppingOutForAQuickCupOfCoffee: After Karen convinces Blake Tower to share the Punisher case files, he acts unmoved, telling her in no uncertain terms that she is not welcome, she should never contact him again, and he's going downstairs to call security now--all while gathering up the files and handing them off to her, and leaving her alone in his office with other files.
85	* TakeAThirdOption: Frank tells Matt he can either let Frank shoot Grotto, or shoot Frank himself, but Matt shoots the chains holding him instead. He's unable to stop Castle from shooting Grotto, though.
86	* TeamMercyVsTeamMurder: Matt and Frank Castle contrast their opposed philosophies, the former supporting mercy and rehabilitation while the latter is supporting more [[VigilanteExecution terminal]] solutions. It ends with Castle killing Grotto, which he describes as an unreformable criminal.
87	* VisualPun: A nicely subtle one, used during the montage of the Dogs of Hell descending on the rooftop. As the bar is pumping [[{{Music/Motorhead}} "Ace of Spades"]], it cuts away on the lyric "Read 'em and weep" to Karen in the act of pulling a photo of one of the Punisher's victims out of a manila folder, showing us [[WaxingLyrical the dead man's hand, again]].
88	* WrenchWhack: Matt and Frank do this to each other. Later one of the Dogs of Hell attacks Matt with one.
89	* YoureInsane: Matt calls Frank this, which is one of the few comments that gets an angry reaction from him.
90	* WhatTheHellHero: With his last breath, Grotto asks Matt why he didn't stop Frank from killing him. Matt's only response is a despondent "I'm sorry."

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