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Elmo3000 Since: Jul, 2013
12/09/2019 09:43:38 •••

Sar-go away

Life can be boring if you don't surround yourself with people who disagree with you. For that reason, I've been trying for the longest time (two days) to find someone on the disagreeable side of YouTube who could offer valid criticism of the things I enjoyed. And when I heard about Sargon Of Akkad, his apparent intellectualism, his openness to debate people, and his resemblance to Robert Baratheon, I was legitimately excited to watch his videos.

Finally, I had found someone like Thunderf00t without the obsession with Anita Sarkeesian. Like The Amazing Atheist without a penchant for being banned from fast-food outlets. Like Davis Aurini without any of the things that make him Davis Aurini. But instead, all I found was another avenue in which to be disappointed. Which, as a man who has been to Croydon, I have experienced enough of in this lifetime.

Sargon's biggest problem is that, while not an outright idiot, he's certainly not as intelligent as he thinks he is; definitely not intelligent enough to justify naming himself after an actual king. Especially when the contrast with Robert Baratheon is more effective; Robert's death was caused by a boar, whereas Sargon's cause will bore you to death. Apologies for tortured wordplay.

He does at least agree to debate other people, but even his fans agree that he tends not to win these, which paints a rather disastrous image of him; great at arguing against quotes and screenshots and other inanimate objects that lack the capability to offer a rebuttal, but not very good at debating the actual human beings who talk to him.

The biggest criticism of Sargon is one of his greatest successes; 'Sargon's Law', which means 'If an SJW (later changed to 'ideologue', presumably when he realised how stupid it sounded) insults you, the insult is actually true about them.' This is a defense reserved for use by trolls who no longer care if you know that they're trolling. How am I supposed to take this seriously? How am I supposed to treat this guy as an intelligent, rational man when he tried to create an internet rule functionally identical to putting your fingers in your ears and replying 'I know you are but what am I? I know you are but what am I?'

And then he does things like tweeting to a British MP who had admitted to being sexually abused 'I wouldn't even rape you.' And then trying to frame the inevitable backlash as 'Feminists think it's sexist to not want to rape someone?' when people were actually pointing out that he's a grown-ass man and it's still incredibly rude to say that to someone and you'd think that for such an intelligent speaker he'd know what a civil discussion was, but I imagine he'd gone a while without stirring up a new outrage about feminism and that can't be good for his Patreon.

In summary, Sargon is one of the better people in his corner of the web, but only because it's a very shitty corner. I'll keep looking, thanks.

Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
06/01/2016 00:00:00

Pretty much the best thing you can say about him is \"well he\'s not as big of an idiot as thunderf00t.\"

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Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
Elmo3000 Since: Jul, 2013
06/01/2016 00:00:00

Gosh darn, do I hate those slashes that show up every time I use an apostrophe.

It\'s honestly depressing that from the place of the web where Sargon comes from, he\'s not even close to the worst person. Even just a few years ago, tweeting \'I wouldn\'t even rape you\' to a sexual assault victim would be grounds for everyone dismissing him as a complete shit for the rest of his short internet career, but these days, he isn\'t doxxing anyone, he isn\'t openly racist, and he didn\'t tweet anything as bad as The Amazing - \"I think we should give the guy who raped you a medal. I hope you drown in rape semen\" - Atheist, who has more than twice the subscriber count. He\'s positively pleasant compared to the others in his field.

I\'m not lying when I say that I like to surround myself with people who disagree with me, but do so many of them have to be rampantly indefensible assholes?

Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
06/18/2016 00:00:00

I just watched \"Elliot Rodger the Demon.\" I take back what I said. He\'s a huge fucking idiot.

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Elmo3000 Since: Jul, 2013
06/19/2016 00:00:00

The good news is H Bomberguy just made a pretty great video that shows how little research he does and some of his more laughable mistakes. So there\'s that.

DoctorSleep Since: Nov, 2013
07/19/2016 00:00:00

If you want to see Sargon\'s Law in action you should check out any forum on IMDB. There\'s always a pack of extreme right-wingers convincing each other that the Left are the real bigots because they don\'t like prejudiced viewpoints.

StormKensho Since: Jul, 2011
12/15/2017 00:00:00

Gotta love that there are people unironically citing intellectually dishonest trologdytes like Hbomberguy(whose intellectual dishonesty in his supposed takedown of Sargon was extensively pointed out), and people who think Sargon qualifies as “right-wing” for simply disagreeing. Talk about having a fucked up Overton Window.

SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
12/15/2017 00:00:00

...Says the dread necromancer.

Elmo3000 Since: Jul, 2013
12/16/2017 00:00:00

"I can't believe you idiots think Sargon qualifies as 'right-wing' just because he backed Brexit, and the Conservatives, and Trump, and Marine Le Pen, and... oh fuck, I forgot to take my self-awareness medication."

Actually, because of Sargon's Law, everything you just said means that you're the one with a messed up... uh, Everton Window, or wherever Wayne Rooney is playing football these days.

GraymanofBelka Since: Dec, 2017
12/16/2017 00:00:00

If you want more balanced right wing youtubers I reccomend Appabend Troy Leavitt Armoured Skeptic Chris Ray Gun and Weaponized Nerd Rage

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
Elmo3000 Since: Jul, 2013
12/16/2017 00:00:00

Not a huge fan of Chris Rayman and I wish I had previous negative experience with Armoured Skeptic so I could make the pun \'More like Armoured Septic\', which I bet no-one has ever said before, ever, but I\'ll check the others out when I have the chance. I.E. when I get bored of playing Rollercoaster Tycoon. So... never. But thanks for the recommendations!

GraymanofBelka Since: Dec, 2017
12/16/2017 00:00:00

For shits and giggles I\'d also reccomend Alex Jones. Dudes a fucking nutcase but damn if he isn\'t entertaining

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
Elmo3000 Since: Jul, 2013
12/16/2017 00:00:00

I\'ll check him if I ever need advice on how to avoid CHARGING INTO A GOBLIN\'S NEST, KISSING GOBLINS, GOBLIN VOMIT, CATCHING HIM IN BED WITH GOBLINS.

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And then I go and spoil the joke in my head by remembering that he said that the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax and those children were paid actors and his grossly incompetent fanbase started sending threats to the grieving families.

SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
12/16/2017 00:00:00

Yeah, any entertainment to be derived from first-party Alex Jones watching is inevitably undermined by the fact that he\'s a turd that walks like a man and has attempted the Parody Retcon while under legal scrutiny during a custody hearing.

In terms of non-crappy right-wing youtubers, I got nuthin\'.

Dephlogisticate Since: Nov, 2011
12/08/2019 00:00:00

I know this is quite a grave dig, but I honestly find alot of Sargon\'s videos to be entertaining, if not fairly reasonable.

On the part of him naming himself after a king, he (by his own admission in a few interviews) did that mostly as a goof back in 2011, with it simply being a gamer handle. When he started making videos and got popular, the name became something he was stuck with.

He doesn\'t seem to put on the airs of being an intellectual, so much so that he seems to openly use his own experiences as a frame of reference, and utilizes a sort of bombastic (in my view at least) brand of humor to keep the mood light; his Advice for Incels video is an example of this.

Elmo3000 Since: Jul, 2013
12/09/2019 00:00:00

As a Brit, I\'ll give him this; it was very nice of him to destroy UKIP for us.


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