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Is there any way that we can separate entries for the 1st game and entries that apply for the franchise in general?
I'm kinda disagree with the Hypocrite entry. Kirigiri has revealed everything that she knows up until that point (like where's she gone during the investigation on chapter 3 and there's a reason why she can't tell her talent). She got mad because Naegi didn't tell her his secret even though she already told him hers. Not to mention that Naegi is the one who brings up that "they should trust each other" in the first place.
Under The Scrappy: sorry if I missed this, but where in the game is Togami racist?
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He's not. I would also argue he's not sexist either, his attitude tends to be "Your not Byakuya Togami, your argument is invalid" rather than "you're not of my race therefore your inferior" (because everyone in that game is Japanese and he's only half-European) and he's never really sexist either (his attitude again being "I'm Byakuya Togami, I'm better than you"). Classist suits fine then.
The general consensus for the anime is So Okay, It's Average? I really don't think that's... accurate. I'm sure some people see it that way, but from what I've seen from general reactions it's been pretty well-received.
I think So Okay, It's Average might be accurate when describing the consensus for fans of the game, given its Broken Base.
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It's a Zero Context Example anyway, so it should probably be removed.
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True. Imma pull unless someone wants to elaborate.
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Ok, time to put this issue to rest.
I'll start from the end. The manga doesn't "reveal" anything, it's an Adaptational Self-Defence and establishes nothing for the game continuity. The fact that he GOT Adaptational Self-Defence in the manga suggests that he's meant to be seen sympathetically in this continuity. Secondly, he DOESN'T get painted as someone who deserved to die. After his execution, everyone is horrified. Him not knowing about the class trials at the time doesn't mean much when he showed no remorse and not once seemed to be considering saving his classmates. Sayaka couldn't have lied about the incident because Leon had a note proving she lured him in. And the fact that he had to return for the toolkit and went out of his way to murder a defenseless girl pretty much throws any moral high ground he might have out of the window.
Brought from Unintentionally Unsympathetic. The fact that she tried to kill Leon is acknowledged in the game. It's also acknowledged that she wouldn't do it if it wasn't for the motivational video. Sayaka being deliberately flawed does NOT qualify for this trope.
Thie biggest issue is that the case is a rather clear Gray-and-Grey Morality and people seem to be insistent on hammering it into black and white or insisting that the game tries to do it. Both Sayaka and Leon are good people who made mistakes because of the pressure of the killing game, but as Makoto points out, it's the GAME that's wrong, not them. The only true villain of this case is Monokuma.
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