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Blazer Since: Mar, 2012
Jun 28th 2016 at 9:09:54 AM •••

Since the YMMV page is locked because of Hydra!Cap, I want to add something in, so I hope someone sees this and adds it in:

Author's Saving Throw: Captain America turning HYDRA?! Say it ain't so! As it turns out, Captain America: Steve Rogers #2 reveals that Cap became HYDRA-sympathetic because of Kobik back during Avengers Standoff - the Cosmic Cube that became Kobik was made by the Red Skull and indoctrined by him to make people into HYDRA through its power. She made Cap HYDRA-sympathetic because that's what she, as a Skull-made weapon, thought would make him happy along with the restoration of his youth and powers.

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
Jun 28th 2016 at 1:23:59 PM •••

There's a thread for requesting an edit on a locked page. You can post it there.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jun 28th 2016 at 1:35:52 PM •••

Wouldn't apply anyway. An Author's Saving Throw is supposed to be in response to backlash. This was clearly the plan all along (it was the next freaking issue), so it's misuse.

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Klaudandus Since: Oct, 2009
Jun 28th 2016 at 2:27:26 PM •••

How can you be so sure it was not really in response to the backlash? You could still expedite last minute edits following the negative reaction to captain america #1

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Jun 28th 2016 at 2:33:07 PM •••

When the first came out, they were really gung-ho about saying that Cap has always been undercover Hydra, so I'm inclined to think the reveal that there's an outside force making Cap Hydra in the comic is either a reversal of that, or a Lying Creator.

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
Jun 28th 2016 at 2:34:21 PM •••

It doesn't matter; the burden of proof is on the troper. note 

Barring proof otherwise, we assume it was a fake out.

EDIT: Ninja'd, but point stands. Our first assumption should be Lying Creator.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jun 29th 2016 at 7:53:31 AM •••

Of course they're gung-ho about it. They're trying to sell comic books. Ending on a cliffhanger and explaining it immediately afterwards would be incredibly dumb.

And it just sounds unlikely that they're not already working on next month's issue before this one comes out. Or even done. Comic books take time, and they're done by a bunch of people. People who generally can't work at the same time. The colorer can't color until the inker is done. The inker can't ink until the artist is done. The artist can't draw until the writer is done. And they need to get the whole she-bang to the printers in time.

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
Jun 29th 2016 at 7:58:15 AM •••

I can speak from experience that most comics are done at least 2-3 months ahead of time, if not more.

Klaudandus Since: Oct, 2009
Jun 29th 2016 at 10:19:55 AM •••

Steve Rogers #3 and #4 just got announced as delayed by 3-4 weeks each though.

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
Jun 29th 2016 at 10:32:11 AM •••

We can reserve judgment till those come out, then.

Klaudandus Since: Oct, 2009
Jun 29th 2016 at 10:46:36 AM •••

I mean, I know where you're coming from that comics are made with some months in advance, but it's also not uncommon for editorial changes that forces redraws and script changes.

Some years ago, a Justice League story had to be modified at the last minute after it turns out that Batman could not be part of the story, so script changes and new pages had to be done to fix that — again, this came from editorial.

So even though the Cap story was planned ahead of time, it's not that out of the question that edits could be made to #2 before printing, if only to fix some pages (rather than the whole issue). The delays to issue 3 and 4 support this possibility (though does not confirm it).

Edited by Klaudandus And there is always someone who will take it upon himself. Always. Always. Always. I have become evil, but once I, too, was good...
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