Western Animation Gargoyles Discussion

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12:07:00 PM Oct 28th 2014
There's this bit of dialogue in 1x12:
Broadway: -You sure you can fly this [helicopter]?
Lexington: -Hey, it's just like the simulator game back at the tower.
Brooklyn: -Famous last words.

I wonder if the last line's connected to the similarly-named trope.
12:45:13 PM Oct 28th 2014
It's not. Part of why I had sent Famous Last Words to TRS, but nothing came of it.
08:02:20 AM Jun 3rd 2014
The YouTube videos are now private... Should we take them down?
10:08:44 PM Apr 6th 2014
In The Price Xanatos and Hudson have a nice talk about true immortality. In Grief we find out that Gargoyles age at half the rate of humans. I believe that before the 1000 year stone sleep Hudson is about 116 which translates to 58 and when the castle rises above the clouds Xanatos is about 39. I put them being the same biological age when Xanatos is 77. For all Xanatos' pity who dies first.
10:40:03 PM Feb 9th 2014
Elisa qualifies for the Commissioner Gordon trope doesn't she?
01:29:57 AM Feb 10th 2014
Why? Context is necessary.
10:48:37 AM Feb 10th 2013
edited by MasterGhandalf
Just removed a bit stating that the Weird Sisters were the Big Bad of the series as confirmed by Word of God. I've been browsing through the Ask Greg archives (specifically, the section on the Weird Sisters) and there doesn't seem to be anything there to confirm this- to the contrary, Weisman doesn't even seem to really consider the Sisters villains (though they certainly can be antagonistic) as much as three Chessmasters who run on Blue and Orange Morality. Also, they do embody vengeance, but also embody fate and grace as well. Is there some Word of God somewhere else that establishes the "real Big Bad" interpretation of the Sisters, or is it just something someone else came up with? It's just been bugging me.

Note: I'm not saying that I don't think the "real Big Bad" interpretation works for the Sisters (I don't particularly agree with it- so far as we know, they have nothing to do with Xanatos, one of the major villains of the series, for starters- but I can definitely see where it's coming from). I just want to know if Weisman actually supported this or not.
12:28:58 PM Sep 13th 2012
Is Gargoyles about good versus evil? Faith versus technology? Or the Fettered versus the Unfettered?
07:51:33 AM Sep 14th 2012
What makes you think the series as a whole is about any of those things?
04:41:47 PM Oct 11th 2012
Lisa: Perhaps this story has no moral. Homer: Exactly! It's just a bunch of stuff that happened!

...naw. Though he may not have had deep themes in mind when he started writing 'Awakening', Weisman is obviously a big fan of themes. I only suggest the first one to point out that - unlike almost all TV intended for kids - Gargoyles avoided the simple good/evil dichotomy. The second one's a standard of anime. The third strikes me as a strong contender, though. Look at the Unfettered trope page and compare it with Xanatos - then look at the Fettered trope page and compare it with Goliath's character.
07:35:21 PM Apr 5th 2011
Would it be ok if the cartoon continuity and the comics conitnuity had separate pages?
10:43:39 AM Aug 26th 2010
Am I just overly perverted, or did anybody else see some Ho Yay crossed with Dude He's Like In A Coma when Xanatos pulled off the vines growing on the sleeping Goliath and said "Magnificent!"?

Then there was the fact that Xanatos educated Thailog to consider Xanatos and Goliath his rookery fathers.
08:02:10 PM May 10th 2011
... That is not outside the scope of my goggles. xD And I believe the inflection was:


Yes, WITH the tilde.
08:39:05 PM Mar 28th 2010
Should Angela be considered a Disney Princess?

I mean, Goliath is the leader of his clan, and Angela is his biological daughter.
05:29:35 PM Apr 9th 2010
No she shouldn't. Gargoyle clans don't work in such a way where anybody could have any such title.
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