Webcomic El Goonish Shive Discussion

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12:42:22 PM Apr 13th 2015
I was wondering if we should update the images on the Character page. Due to Art Evolution, and the addition of color, I believe that it is long overdue.
02:34:32 PM Apr 13th 2015
Yeah, that's probably a good idea.
02:38:31 PM Apr 13th 2015
Agreeing with this. I think this would be good.
11:30:22 PM Apr 13th 2015
Updated the pictures for the main cast.
02:12:18 PM Mar 20th 2013
It just occurred to me: if Elliot and Sarah have trouble speaking up about their doubts about their relationship, could that be an inversion of Twice Shy?

I mean, not yet, obviously, being as they haven't had a chance to discuss it. But if they start putting it off...?
10:04:54 PM Jan 8th 2013
I want to talk about this comic


Specifically, the "random bikini model"'s line. "I'm someone's daughter," Why not "I'm a person"? It's sort of degrading. If the "someone" in question was intended to mean her father, then it's flat-out sexist saying that women are defined by the men in their lives. It just bothers me is all.
01:50:25 PM Jan 10th 2013
...yeah, pretty much. Thank you for pointing that out — I hadn't even noticed when I read it.
04:30:37 PM May 25th 2013
Wait she was a person(in comic)? There is no proof in the comic that is an factual statement. The someones daughter thing seems like a stock reason to not objectify women and thus would be the first reason not to do this that would pop into Eliots head. Besides his imagionary bikini model is more likely to be okay with this than her imagionary parents. The for women he knows he has a mix of reasons why it is wrong most of which has to do on some level with their relation to him but the defining someone by their relationship to you is not the same as defining them by their relation to your gender. The first two were rejected because of their relationship to men, the second two because of their relationship to women, Susan because she would object.
04:48:00 PM May 25th 2013
If the woman would be okay with Elliot fantasizing about her, why should her parent's opinion matter? And if the woman wouldn't be okay with Elliot fantasizing about her, why should her parent's opinion matter?

And for that matter, where does it say anything about her parent's opinion? The implication is that the mere existence of parents implies anything he does that impinges upon ... what? Her ritual purity? — is necessarily harmful to said parents, presumably because by fantasizing about her he is somehow ... what? Bringing disgrace upon her family's honor?

The whole thing makes no sense unless it is incorporated in some deeply problematic system of values.
08:04:44 AM May 12th 2012
The article suffers from Signal-to-Noise Train Wreck in a horrible way. I suppose someone should do something about it.
07:27:58 PM Apr 17th 2012
I think the newest comic (4/17/12) deserves mention as either accidental nighmare fuel or fridge horror but I'm not certain if it counts or if it's just me, or where it would go if it did count. This is my first time writing anything on tvtropes. Comments?
07:34:23 PM Apr 17th 2012
To clarify, Sarah doesn't know if she has been tranformed and questions whether her memories have been altered and if she is supposed to be female; I find the fact that this is actually a somewhat valid concern horrifying.
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