WMG Other Friends On The Other Side Discussion

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11:50:53 PM Jan 18th 2013
edited by Shadao
I think Demon King Demise needs to have an entry at the Friends since he is the source of all the monsters in the Legend of Zelda. I also believe that Ridley from Metroid should have an entry as well, perhaps as a client or some kind like that.
04:18:18 PM Sep 28th 2012
What should Lord Vyce, Missing No/The Entity, Mechakara, Dr. Insano, The Plot Hole/ Corrupted Ma-Ti, Malachite, and the Executor be in this WMG?
05:27:24 PM Sep 11th 2011
How would you guys classify these villains to be in their relationship to the Friends?

''Phantasm from BTAS ''Lord of Darkness from Legend ''Jenner from The Secret of Nimh ''Morgoth, the Balrogs, and evil Galadriel from Lord of the Rings ''Betelgeuse from Beetlejuice ''Large Marge from Peewee's Big Adventure ''Warren T. Rat from An American Tail ''and Thrax from Osmosis Jones
07:02:13 AM Jul 1st 2012
Phantasm: we should consider creating a "neutrals" page since the phantasm that was Andrea fell into vengeance and thus can't truly be called a pure good guy anymore, but on the other hand, she was targeting mobsters, and showed to have a sense of morality in the fully absorbed finale Epilogue for Justice League Unlimited. So I say either make her a shaky Anti-Hero, or make her a neutral.

Jenner: talk about his selfishness, vanity, and envy, and how the friends manipulated him, but ultimately collected his soul as his time of evil didn't produce much fruit.

The Lord Of The Rings people: The balrog can qualify as an automatic friend. Morgoth, as perhaps one of the founding friends, and the reason why the other side is necessary outside of Disney. Evil Galadriel? I'm not sure. elseworld being given mind?

Warren: slaver for the friends, using misery to pay off his debt. Also was rescued from the china barge later on to continue activities elsewhere.

Thrax: a favorite agent of the friends. Among the many other parasites plaguing the world of man in Osmosis Jones, Thrax sought to make a name for himself among the friend agents. He decided to do it by sending as many souls as he was capable of sending, which ended up being higher and faster than he thought. Unknown to many, many of the cells in bodies have souls of their own, and thus killing a body prematurely sends ALL but the most resilient cells straight to the friends. Trax generally got better at his work the longer he lasted, and with Frank, he sought to break records, and be recognized as the prime mini genetic material for replicating and taking down countless people. Fortunately stopped by Osmosis, he utterly dissolved in alcohol leaving the friends sorrowful, and thus seeking to start over from scratch to create a new thrax based on the reports he sent them, so that he might posthumously continue his work.
10:40:06 PM Sep 1st 2011
I removed the Anti-Spirals from the Friends. You're probably wandering why I did it, and I shall explain the reasons.
  • The Anti-Spirals are knight templars to the max. Combine that with their Fantastic Racism, and I don't think they would associate with the Friends.
  • They come from an anime where Rosseau Was Right. I doubt someone from that setting would be anything other than a client, Nia rape or not, would ally with a group dedicated to evil's victory.
This said, I do see them being in an Other section. Perhaps they'd manipulate the Friends and the High Council in a Xanatos Gambit, or be at war with both. Given how Evil Is Hammy would bring forth the Spiral Nemesis, I'd say the latter.
08:34:51 PM Jul 3rd 2011
Due to the description of the Other Side and its effects used by this grand unifying guess I could not avoid thinking about The Warp from Warhammer/40000. How would the Unholy Quartetto of Chaos Gods fit in there? Too powerful? Too ambiguous (they can represent feelings considered positive too)?
12:54:20 PM Dec 17th 2010
how would the villians from the fable video games fit in here
06:48:42 AM Jul 1st 2012
Figure it out yourself. This is technically an open forum for all outside disney.
03:32:40 PM Dec 2nd 2010
Hey guys, I just discovered Deathwing Cataclysm from World of Warcraft! What would any of you guys estimate him to be?
09:51:55 AM Nov 13th 2010
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This is a continuation of the list from above. This time, the villains are as follows: Wicked Jack the pumpkin alien, Gallaxhar, Makunga, Grandfather from KND, Malefor, Vilgax, Constance from monster house, Cell from DBZ, Daolon Wong from Jackie Chan adventures, Leige Maximo from Transformers G2, and Carface from All dogs go to heaven.

Now, I'm asking everyone BUT Maxwellelvis to state their opinions on these villains and their connections to Chernabog, Aku, or Unicron.

EDIT: The reason why I'm asking everyone but Maxwellelvis to do this is because I feel that I've annoyed him too much and I need to give him a rest.
02:53:04 PM Nov 23rd 2010
No need to worry about me, I love crap like this. Frankly, I don't think Cell would be the right villain from Dragon Ball to put on this list, though. I'd think it more belonged to King Piccolo, Bibidi and Babadi, Majin Buu, or the Black Star Dragon Balls.

Only other comment I have is that Daolon is the typical Client success story; paid off his debt, done some big things, and might join the Inner Circle once he gets out of the slammer.
12:13:13 PM Nov 24th 2010
What about Shendu and Tarakudo?
12:27:42 PM Nov 25th 2010
how about Shendu and his siblings as archdemons and the dimeson they were sealed away in as the other side
07:32:34 AM Nov 26th 2010
But what about Zig Zag and One-Eye?
04:16:18 AM Nov 27th 2010
zig zag's deal was for his magic and one-eye's deal was for the machine that the end of the film.
07:40:20 PM Nov 27th 2010
edited by DisneyWarrior95
What would Leige Maximo have in conection to the Friends?

EDIT: News Flash! I'm still here...waiting for your answer!
01:27:49 PM Oct 17th 2010
edited by alexxm
how about Johnny Bartlett. from the frightners
07:01:08 AM Oct 14th 2010
Does it have to be TV-related? Because Sweetgrass Voice would be an awesome addition.
04:33:13 PM Oct 12th 2010
Here's some more possibilities to put in.

  • Krang

  • Dr. Eggman/Nega Eggman

  • Mecha-King Ghidrah

  • Jason Voorhees

  • Queen Gnorga

  • The Skeksis

  • Mephistomon

  • KOMPLEX from Bucky o hare

  • Dai Shi from Power Rangers Jungle Fury

  • The Mysterious Stranger from Tom Sawyer

  • Piedmon

  • General Grievous

  • Darkseid

  • Tzekel-Kan

So Maxwelllevis, what do you think of these ideas?

09:52:03 AM Oct 13th 2010
please??? for old time's sake? after that, i'll lieave you alone.
01:14:20 PM Oct 17th 2010
Well, here's my opinions: Krang might have made a deal for his robot body. Grievous' origin only needs a little tweaking from being converted by the Banking Clan to the Friends Darkseid needs no help. He is a god. The Stranger would be more of a neutral party, one whom the good guys try to give a wide berth. Jason's mother was who I thought should be the client. Jason just goes rogue afterwards. That's all I've got for now.
01:15:00 PM Oct 17th 2010
Oh, and Mecha-King Ghidorah is a good guy.
01:26:13 PM Oct 8th 2010
some new ideas that guy with the glasses dr insano mechakara the various evil kamen riders jack of blades or lord lucian voldemort sauran
03:39:48 PM Oct 2nd 2010
So where's our obligatory Joss Whedon link? I thought that was our thing here, that anything and everything could be linked to Buffy or Firefly.
07:12:03 AM Oct 3rd 2010
If you're so obsessed with the Joss Whedon link, fine. You'll just have to classify all the vampires seen in Buffy as soul-collected victims turned evil by the Friends.
09:32:27 AM Oct 5th 2010
There's more than vampires in Buffy; there's demons, too. I've never seen Buffy, so anyone here who has, please help.

Oh, and it was supposed to be a joke.
07:26:00 AM Oct 2nd 2010
We should have two categories: equivalent systems for the old idea about WB and Nintendo equivalents to the freinds, and versers for others.
07:48:19 AM Oct 2nd 2010
Interesting Idea, but I just want you to know that I added Mistress Nine from Sailor moon to the theory. I was wondering if ANYONE saw the evil daimon lady in Sailor moon at all and would fix up her entry.
12:34:58 PM Oct 2nd 2010
Hey, what about Samhain and Wiseman?
02:53:41 AM Oct 3rd 2010
@ By Samhain, do you mean the one from King's Quest VI? As for Wiseman (AKA the Death Phantom, assuming you mean the one from Sailor Moon), the situation with him is...strange. How should we handle the various Sailor Moon villains, given that the first four Big Bads of the series were incarnations of Chaos? My suggestion would be to have Chaos as a very, very powerful Friend and keep the situation with other four Sailor Moon Big Bads enigmatic, as least as far as their connection to Chaos goes. What do the rest of you think?
07:01:42 AM Oct 3rd 2010
As for Samhain, I meant the Ghostbusters incarnation.
03:53:42 PM Sep 28th 2010
What would Venom, Carnage, and Cyber-Zilla belong to?
12:47:28 PM Sep 29th 2010
Not sure about Cyberzilla, but Venom and Carnage would go on the original page, with the Marvel characters who now belong to Disney.
09:22:54 PM Sep 26th 2010
Hey, cool, I just found this page! I'm back!

I'm going to add the Green Death, from How to Train Your Dragon, probably tomorrow. It seems to be a mindless beast, so I'll make it one of Aku's most powerful agents, a la Cerberus or the Hydra from Hercules.

Also, how about the Bank of Evil, from Despicable Me?
07:45:26 AM Sep 27th 2010
Okay, added Mr. Perkins to the Inner Circle (he's their money man), Green Death to the Agents, and Baron Ruber to the clients.
11:21:47 PM Sep 27th 2010
I don't suppose you follow wrestling, do you? Thanks to me, the Undertaker now serves in collecting souls and battling heroes. I want Kane involved in here as well, so if you know Kane's biography, please help.
06:40:56 AM Sep 28th 2010
Nope, don't follow wrestling at all. It's a cool idea, though.
02:13:56 PM Sep 28th 2010
Great. If anyone here does know how to get Kane in here, just for the sake of an evil vs. evil scenario, I think it'd be interesting.
01:52:53 PM Sep 20th 2010
is any one goin to start a high council version of this
09:35:15 AM Jan 16th 2011
High Council section has been started.
03:01:48 PM Sep 17th 2010
While we're on the subject of new entries, here's some of mine: Freddy Krueger

Ming the Merciless


Pamela Voorhees

Bagan, Destroyah, Ghidrah, Gigan, any of the really evil Godzilla monsters

The Slender Man


The Undertaker or Kane, perhaps Paul Bearer

Comments, suggestions?
03:03:50 AM Sep 18th 2010
edited by alexxm
how about shao kahn and the daedra princes and the yellow eyed demon
04:37:03 PM Sep 18th 2010
Write 'em yourself.
05:05:44 PM Sep 15th 2010
I think it's best we put down some description before putting characters down. For now, I'll listed the possibilities until further notice.

Ivan Ooze

The Joker:

The Shredder:


The Werecats: Simon, Lenore, and Jaques:

The Koopalings and Bowser Jr.:

The Evil Masked Figure and the real-life monsters:
08:49:42 AM Sep 16th 2010
would ivan ooze work as an au vesion of ritas brother
12:40:26 PM Sep 17th 2010
Hey, what about Queen Beryl and Mistress Nine, huh? They seem interesting enough....
02:55:01 PM Sep 17th 2010
Ivan would be one of the Dark Masters, what with how effortlessly he seized command of the Moon Palace and nearly destroyed Zordon.

Joker would have recieved his reality warping powers as part of a test to see if he was worthy of joining the Inner Circle.

Shredder's story would depend on which Shredder it is.

Thrax was probably sheltered from the Z-Wave by the Friends, and went to gather his army independent of them in his father's name. Anyway, he was a Disney-era creation, so he'd go on the main page.

The cat creatures of Zombie Island are a textbook client example, obviously the Friends decided to play Jerkass Genie and curse them so as to insure swift payment.

The 8 Koopalings would just be serving their daddy, unless we want to retcon Bowser Jr.'s magic paintbrush as being given by the Friends.

The bad guy in Scooby-Doo 2 is just given the power to create real monsters to collect the souls of Coolsville, and to destroy Mysteries Inc., with that whole pettiness thing Chernabog has.

I can't answer for the Sailor Moon characters, because I don't watch the show.
04:12:13 PM Sep 17th 2010
What about Prince Olympius and Queen Bansheera?
05:53:16 PM Sep 17th 2010
Well, I was of the opinion that it was in fact the Friends who sealed Bansheera under Mariner Bay, because she was so evil, they didn't want her around. Olympius and Diabolico were to have been recruited, should they have been able to usurp Bansheera. Ironically, Diabolico may be redeemed as of yet; I'd place him, Ecliptor, and Villamax as part of a team of antiheroes, similar to Dingo's team in the Gargoyles spin-off, Bad Guys.
09:54:59 AM Sep 18th 2010
In that case, what about Prime Evil from Filmation Ghostbusters and the various evil digimon like Mephistomon and Apocalymon?
04:36:48 PM Sep 18th 2010
Look and see what's already up, and work from there. By the way, help out with the original if you can, I havn't seen Unbreakable.
03:52:13 PM Sep 11th 2010
if we got it as a friend if we do other members of the high council wolud the turtle be a good idea for a member
08:20:33 PM Sep 11th 2010
Maybe, if we could understand what you're talking about.
12:31:41 AM Sep 12th 2010
In Stephen King's Dark Tower Series, the turtle is a prominent figure. Named Maturin, the turtle is one of the twelve guardians of the beams which hold up the dark tower. There is also a small carving of the turtle which is described as a 'tiny god'. A rhyme is recited by the characters, "See the TURTLE of enormous girth, on his shell he holds the Earth." This rhyme and the turtle also show up in Stephen King's "It", where the turtle represents the opposition to the terror that is It
03:17:40 AM Sep 12th 2010
would daedra princes be friends or inner circle material
11:43:15 AM Sep 11th 2010
wolud the fallen (transformers) and the master (doctor who) be good members of the inner circle
08:19:44 PM Sep 11th 2010
The Fallen is basically teh Transformers' devil, so maybe. As for Doctor Who, there are a ton of other villains who would be better suited for this list, such as: -Rassilon -The Master of the Land of Fiction -Davros -The Valeyard -The Mara -Eldrad -Lady Cassandra -Sutekh -Kandyman (just kidding)
02:53:36 PM Sep 10th 2010
i added pennywise as a friend imajins from kamen rider den-o as agents and the shocker group as clients good idea or not
10:46:16 PM Sep 10th 2010
edited by maxwellelvis
Okay, you've gotta pothole these things if you're going to do this. I'll fix them up, but only 'cause you're new at this.

EDIT: Guys, what are these Imajins from? I need to know so I can fix this guy's "entries".
01:25:33 AM Sep 11th 2010
kamen rider den-o
08:00:32 AM Sep 11th 2010
Well in that case, someone who is fully knowledgeable about that show should fill in that entry.
08:47:38 AM Sep 1st 2010
we got super sentai involved in this so why not add imajins as agents
07:01:19 PM Aug 23rd 2010
Oh, this is just a terrible idea. KEEP IT TO DISNEY!
07:34:16 AM Aug 27th 2010
It is NOT a terrible idea. And not everything has to be about Disney, it can also refer to the other companies. No flaming, please.
09:30:11 AM Sep 5th 2010
This can just be a fun non-canon to the mainstream theory. I agree the main page should be pure Disney, but this is okay.

Heh...a WMG of a WMG...cool.
07:24:35 PM Sep 8th 2010
Dude, my brain just wrapped around itself.
06:39:24 PM Aug 22nd 2010
Good evening everyone! This is Disneywarrior95 here to tell you, Michael JJ, that I need your help in constructing this new WMG page. Will you, Figment Jedi, and maxwellevis help me?
09:11:30 AM Sep 5th 2010
Okay, I've got some more free time right now...just don't expect a lot. Graduating from college means I have less time to just mess around.
08:21:02 PM Sep 11th 2010
I'll pop in if I get an idea.
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