Discussion WMG / OtherFriendsOnTheOtherSide

Phantasm: we should consider creating a "neutrals" page since the phantasm that was Andrea fell into vengeance and thus can't truly be called a pure good guy anymore, but on the other hand, she was targeting mobsters, and showed to have a sense of morality in the fully absorbed finale Epilogue for Justice League Unlimited. So I say either make her a shaky Anti-Hero, or make her a neutral.

Jenner: talk about his selfishness, vanity, and envy, and how the friends manipulated him, but ultimately collected his soul as his time of evil didn't produce much fruit.

The Lord Of The Rings people: The balrog can qualify as an automatic friend. Morgoth, as perhaps one of the founding friends, and the reason why the other side is necessary outside of Disney. Evil Galadriel? I'm not sure. elseworld being given mind?

Warren: slaver for the friends, using misery to pay off his debt. Also was rescued from the china barge later on to continue activities elsewhere.

Thrax: a favorite agent of the friends. Among the many other parasites plaguing the world of man in Osmosis Jones, Thrax sought to make a name for himself among the friend agents. He decided to do it by sending as many souls as he was capable of sending, which ended up being higher and faster than he thought. Unknown to many, many of the cells in bodies have souls of their own, and thus killing a body prematurely sends ALL but the most resilient cells straight to the friends. Trax generally got better at his work the longer he lasted, and with Frank, he sought to break records, and be recognized as the prime mini genetic material for replicating and taking down countless people. Fortunately stopped by Osmosis, he utterly dissolved in alcohol leaving the friends sorrowful, and thus seeking to start over from scratch to create a new thrax based on the reports he sent them, so that he might posthumously continue his work.

Figure it out yourself. This is technically an open forum for all outside disney.

High Council section has been started.

No need to worry about me, I love crap like this. Frankly, I don't think Cell would be the right villain from Dragon Ball to put on this list, though. I'd think it more belonged to King Piccolo, Bibidi and Babadi, Majin Buu, or the Black Star Dragon Balls.

Only other comment I have is that Daolon is the typical Client success story; paid off his debt, done some big things, and might join the Inner Circle once he gets out of the slammer.

What about Shendu and Tarakudo?

how about Shendu and his siblings as archdemons and the dimeson they were sealed away in as the other side

But what about Zig Zag and One-Eye?

zig zag's deal was for his magic and one-eye's deal was for the machine that the end of the film.

What would Leige Maximo have in conection to the Friends?

EDIT: News Flash! I'm still here...waiting for your answer!

please??? for old time's sake? after that, i'll lieave you alone.

Well, here's my opinions: Krang might have made a deal for his robot body. Grievous' origin only needs a little tweaking from being converted by the Banking Clan to the Friends Darkseid needs no help. He is a god. The Stranger would be more of a neutral party, one whom the good guys try to give a wide berth. Jason's mother was who I thought should be the client. Jason just goes rogue afterwards. That's all I've got for now.

Oh, and Mecha-King Ghidorah is a good guy.

If you're so obsessed with the Joss Whedon link, fine. You'll just have to classify all the vampires seen in Buffy as soul-collected victims turned evil by the Friends.

There's more than vampires in Buffy; there's demons, too. I've never seen Buffy, so anyone here who has, please help.

Oh, and it was supposed to be a joke.

Interesting Idea, but I just want you to know that I added Mistress Nine from Sailor moon to the theory. I was wondering if ANYONE saw the evil daimon lady in Sailor moon at all and would fix up her entry.

Hey, what about Samhain and Wiseman?

@75.28.21.17: By Samhain, do you mean the one from King's Quest VI? As for Wiseman (AKA the Death Phantom, assuming you mean the one from Sailor Moon), the situation with him is...strange. How should we handle the various Sailor Moon villains, given that the first four Big Bads of the series were incarnations of Chaos? My suggestion would be to have Chaos as a very, very powerful Friend and keep the situation with other four Sailor Moon Big Bads enigmatic, as least as far as their connection to Chaos goes. What do the rest of you think?

As for Samhain, I meant the Ghostbusters incarnation.

Not sure about Cyberzilla, but Venom and Carnage would go on the original page, with the Marvel characters who now belong to Disney.

Okay, added Mr. Perkins to the Inner Circle (he's their money man), Green Death to the Agents, and Baron Ruber to the clients.

I don't suppose you follow wrestling, do you? Thanks to me, the Undertaker now serves in collecting souls and battling heroes. I want Kane involved in here as well, so if you know Kane's biography, please help.

Nope, don't follow wrestling at all. It's a cool idea, though.

Great. If anyone here does know how to get Kane in here, just for the sake of an evil vs. evil scenario, I think it'd be interesting.

how about shao kahn and the daedra princes and the yellow eyed demon

Write 'em yourself.

would ivan ooze work as an au vesion of ritas brother

Hey, what about Queen Beryl and Mistress Nine, huh? They seem interesting enough....

Ivan would be one of the Dark Masters, what with how effortlessly he seized command of the Moon Palace and nearly destroyed Zordon.

Joker would have recieved his reality warping powers as part of a test to see if he was worthy of joining the Inner Circle.

Shredder's story would depend on which Shredder it is.

Thrax was probably sheltered from the Z-Wave by the Friends, and went to gather his army independent of them in his father's name. Anyway, he was a Disney-era creation, so he'd go on the main page.

The cat creatures of Zombie Island are a textbook client example, obviously the Friends decided to play Jerkass Genie and curse them so as to insure swift payment.

The 8 Koopalings would just be serving their daddy, unless we want to retcon Bowser Jr.'s magic paintbrush as being given by the Friends.

The bad guy in Scooby-Doo 2 is just given the power to create real monsters to collect the souls of Coolsville, and to destroy Mysteries Inc., with that whole pettiness thing Chernabog has.

I can't answer for the Sailor Moon characters, because I don't watch the show.

What about Prince Olympius and Queen Bansheera?

Well, I was of the opinion that it was in fact the Friends who sealed Bansheera under Mariner Bay, because she was so evil, they didn't want her around. Olympius and Diabolico were to have been recruited, should they have been able to usurp Bansheera. Ironically, Diabolico may be redeemed as of yet; I'd place him, Ecliptor, and Villamax as part of a team of antiheroes, similar to Dingo's team in the Gargoyles spin-off, Bad Guys.

In that case, what about Prime Evil from Filmation Ghostbusters and the various evil digimon like Mephistomon and Apocalymon?

Look and see what's already up, and work from there. By the way, help out with the original if you can, I havn't seen Unbreakable.

Maybe, if we could understand what you're talking about.

In Stephen King's Dark Tower Series, the turtle is a prominent figure. Named Maturin, the turtle is one of the twelve guardians of the beams which hold up the dark tower. There is also a small carving of the turtle which is described as a 'tiny god'. A rhyme is recited by the characters, "See the TURTLE of enormous girth, on his shell he holds the Earth." This rhyme and the turtle also show up in Stephen King's "It", where the turtle represents the opposition to the terror that is It

would daedra princes be friends or inner circle material

Okay, I've got some more free time right now...just don't expect a lot. Graduating from college means I have less time to just mess around.

I'll pop in if I get an idea.

The Fallen is basically teh Transformers' devil, so maybe. As for Doctor Who, there are a ton of other villains who would be better suited for this list, such as: -Rassilon -The Master of the Land of Fiction -Davros -The Valeyard -The Mara -Eldrad -Lady Cassandra -Sutekh -Kandyman (just kidding)

Okay, you've gotta pothole these things if you're going to do this. I'll fix them up, but only 'cause you're new at this.

EDIT: Guys, what are these Imajins from? I need to know so I can fix this guy's "entries".

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Well in that case, someone who is fully knowledgeable about that show should fill in that entry.

It is NOT a terrible idea. And not everything has to be about Disney, it can also refer to the other companies. No flaming, please.

This can just be a fun non-canon to the mainstream theory. I agree the main page should be pure Disney, but this is okay.

Heh...a WMG of a WMG...cool.

Dude, my brain just wrapped around itself.