Since I was the one who added the entry and having recently finished the DE, I can safely say that the game's narrative does vindicate Yuri.
While Flynn says Yuri's actions are criminal several times, he lets Yuri go each time and later confides to Estelle that, no matter what, he believes Yuri can always be trusted to make the right decision. Despite Yuri having committed two acts of premeditated murder by that point.
In the scene prior to that one, Yuri asks Estelle if she's still comfortable around him even knowing he might turn his blade on her next. Estelle doesn't bat an eye and says that, if he does, that she'll have likely done something to deserve it. Meaning, she'd be the one at fault rather than him.
As for Ragou and Camore, they're both made so cartoonishly evil that no one cares when they find out Yuri killed them. The rest of the party basically shrugs it off and sides with Yuri. So yes, the game bends over backwards to exonerate him at every turn.
But I never said Sodia is a martyr either. At the end of the example, I plainly said she's guilty of taking the law into her own hands. And I'm well aware that her desire to protect Flynn is what caused her to try to kill Yuri (I even noted it twice in her character section), but the narrative only portrays her actions negatively.
The example is valid because there's more than sufficient evidence to prove it. Everyone else sides with Yuri. The only one who doesn't gets shat on by Yuri, the rest party (in both the aforementioned skits), and by her own captain who allows it to happen each time. Not once does Flynn ever try to speak up on Sodia's behalf.
That isn't making her to be a martyr, it's stating a point in fact.
Edited by MiinU I wouldn't mind failure so much, if I didn't fail so much.
Stop putting Obvious Beta. Just because you're butthurt over the PS 3 version being an Updated Re-release doesn't automatically put this game in the same league of Big Riggs.
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I know the debate about what's actually presented as "right and moral" in Vesperia is still ongoing even a whole flippin' decade later, but this entry seemed to me like Complaining About Shows You Dont Like:
I would argue that while the party obviously forgives and trusts Yuri, and he never faces punishment for the murders, no one actually says what he did was right, and several people explicitly say it was screwed up and he shouldn't have done that. The game doesn't quite give a clear answer as to what was right, so I find it hard to say that that means "the narrative vindicates Yuri." I feel like the only thing the game 100% presents as "for the greater good" is the decision to sacrifice the blastia and at that point they explicitly go to the world powers and ask them to cooperate.
As for Sodia, the problems with her come off (to me at least) as she's single-mindedly trying to confront Yuri when there's bigger stuff like Alexei to worry about. I'm not quite up to her kinda-sorta apology on my playthrough of DE but I thought Yuri's rejection was because she, like him, tried to take care of things the wrong way even if she's technically right about the base problem (him not being good for Flynn). This is also phrased as if she just wants to make sure Yuri receives due punishment, but...it's deeper than that. It's an obsession as part of her fixation on Flynn, because she thinks he's a Poisonous Friend to Flynn. That's the main reason why the game paints her as in the wrong, not just because she wants to arrest Yuri.
didn't expect to get into these sorts of discussions again ten years later but i guess that's what a rerelease does. Anyway, if there's a better way to phrase this (maybe to not quite make Sodia out to be such a martyr - she isn't, I'm sorry), it can probably still go on the page, I just don't think this counts for it.
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