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ShootingStar7X Just call me Solemn. Since: Dec, 2017
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Jul 31st 2023 at 5:11:17 PM •••

Now that there's a "Writing a good Complete Monster" section, does anyone else think we should merge the "Supplementary tropes" and "Story-telling hints" folders into one folder with the former's name, and rename the "Writing a good Complete Monster" header to "Story-telling hints" to match Write a Magnificent Bastard?

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Mr-ex777 Since: Apr, 2019
Jul 31st 2023 at 6:37:39 PM •••

I think the supplementary trope folder should be renamed necessary tropes since those are like, close to omnipresent in every CM seen. Or most of them like how not all MBs are chessmasters.

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ShootingStar7X Since: Dec, 2017
Jul 31st 2023 at 7:29:52 PM •••

@Mr-ex777

I'd say a "Necessary tropes" section for Complete Monster should only include It's All About Me, The Unapologetic, The Unfettered, and maybe Lack of Empathy (if you don't consider the Sadist to have a twisted form of empathy).

Either way, I've gone through with the merge now.

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ShootingStar7X Just call me Solemn. Since: Dec, 2017
Just call me Solemn.
Nov 5th 2022 at 5:57:34 PM •••

Should That One Boss be moved to the "Tropes to avoid or be careful with" section? Some remarks that tropers have made on Lord Brevon suggest that a Complete Monster/That One Boss crossover may not be such a wise idea:

  • On HateSink.Video Games: "And worst of all, he's by far one of the most difficult bosses in the game."

  • On ThatOneBoss.Action: "[...]he's still far and away the hardest boss in the game, which especially doesn't help the fact that he's also the most despicable villain in an otherwise-lighthearted game as well."

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Snowy66 Since: May, 2012
Nov 5th 2022 at 6:55:14 PM •••

I don't think That One Boss has any relation to CM tbh. How tough they physically are has no relation to how evil they are or how detestable. In fact, making them an annoying fight might add to the audience hating them, which is kinda the point.

ShootingStar7X Since: Dec, 2017
Nov 6th 2022 at 3:56:39 AM •••

I didn't expect a reply here so soon, but you put it perfectly, @Snowy66! That One Boss can stay in "Story-telling hints". Though, an "annoying fight" would be a Goddamned Boss, not That One Boss.

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Orangutans Since: May, 2018
May 15th 2022 at 9:55:24 AM •••

Could we add a "Greats" and "Treat With Caution" to this?

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beeruckzII Since: Aug, 2011
May 15th 2022 at 11:02:16 AM •••

I don't think so, unfortunately. We tried that and they were afraid that it would lead to an edit war.

Snowy66 Since: May, 2012
May 15th 2022 at 3:46:42 PM •••

They said no because with CM the trope is more straightforward than MB, you either are or you aren't. There aren't any near-misses or famous example you need to take cues from.

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