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kkj12345 General Since: May, 2021
Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
Sep 29th 2022 at 10:33:02 PM •••

Unfortunately it's oftentimes used interchangeably, but the point of this is that the character thinks the setting is different, so something like "This is reality" or "This is the moment where you tell us to split off" and then this doesn't happen should be an indication that this is in work.

WarriorEowyn Since: Oct, 2010
Sep 4th 2013 at 11:53:01 AM •••

This page seems like it needs a fairly thorough cull. From the trope description, it sounds like the trope can only apply in works where there is some level of Fourth Wall Awareness, and plenty of example don't fit that requirement.

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Nezumi Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 16th 2016 at 2:41:04 PM •••

The problem being that we don't have a better trope for people who act and react with the expectation that things will be like a certain genre or they have a certain specific role without identifying themselves as in a story or discussing tropes, and this is common enough and has enough storytelling connotations that it suggests we either need a YKTTW for that, or to expand this trope's definition.

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Colleen Since: Aug, 2018
Apr 3rd 2021 at 11:35:58 PM •••

I vote we do just that, than. Because I’m seeing a lot of great examples that get omitted because they have no outside references or Fourth-Wall Awareness.

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 16th 2021 at 11:04:07 AM •••

I think the description got sidetracked somewhere down the line. As written it seems very strict about the idea that the person needs to be "[Wrong Genre] Savvy" ("Before adding an example ask yourself "If this character was correct, would it change the genre?" if the answer is "no" then it doesn't belong here.").

It used to be just "Wrong [Genre Savvy]" — a person who thinks they're being Genre Savvy is, well, wrong. Thinking you're the dashing prince who slays the dragon when you're really the evil hunter who kills the friendly monster, that kind of thing. It would be hard to think you're a steampunk cowboy if you can take one look around you and see stone castles and men in pointy hats.

Colleen Since: Aug, 2018
Apr 3rd 2021 at 11:17:49 AM •••

I’ve noticed a lot of great examples get omitted on this page because nothing is mentioned how the characters get these ideas. Like in Frozen, when Anna thinks she’s in a Snow White or Cinderella story, but her Prince Charming turns out to be Prince Charmless and her “evil” Queen sister is actually a good guy. There are no books or stories mentioned how she got this fairytale mindset, but it’s a still a great deconstruction of fairytales and a great example of Wrong Genre Savvy. You don’t need a background reference to think your in the wrong story.

MotiveFan Since: Dec, 2016
Jun 23rd 2019 at 12:08:52 PM •••

Do we need all the separate pages? Some of them only have 2 examples apiece.

DriftingSkies ''[[blue:Grand Exhausted Poobah]]'' Since: Jul, 2012
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Jul 19th 2013 at 8:02:12 AM •••

I've split this page due to size (~407,000 characters) based on this thread.

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OOZE Don't feed the plants! Since: Dec, 1969
Don't feed the plants!
Nov 19th 2010 at 9:30:12 PM •••

Would it be fair to say that all or most Shoot the Shaggy Dog stories involve this?

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Luc Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 20th 2010 at 1:09:51 AM •••

Not really. Shoot the Shaggy Dog is more or less Genre Savvy neutral, as a trope; it can apply to Genre Blind, Genre Savvy, and Wrong Genre Savvy characters equally.

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