Discussion Main / WhiteKnighting

Agreed. In particular, the following statement:

"Though the accuser is most commonly a Troll, and a misogynist troll at that who mostly has a relationship with a girl (it is very common for a misogynist troll to let a girl do the talking for him)"

This reeks of bias and stands out as being inappropriate for an informative tvtropes page. The very page itself criticizes White Knighting as a form of ad hominem attack, while characterizing users of the phrase as misogynist trolls who let girls do the talking for them.

This is unnecessary (let people come to their own conclusions about the validity of the phrase) and it discredits the page. Nobody is going to look at that statement and think "oh, so misogynist trolls use this phrase." They're going to look at it and think "Whoa, whoever wrote this has a serious personal problem with the phrase; I'd better find my information elsewhere."

... holy crap, that's an awful, awful sentence. That absolutely needs to go.

I wonder who wrote that to begin with. Who uses words like "misogynist" frequently and has a victim complex while spouting inappropriate misinformation in places it doesn't belong? They may forever remain in mystery, let's just hope it's only one person and not an entire group sharing their mentality.

This article is still in heavy need of TLC, it has so many implications of white knighting not being a genuine thing which happens. I'm not entirely sure it's even a trope, this is something you see more in real life and not in fiction.

Please, feel free to contribute to the Trope Repair Shop topic. The link is at the top of this page.

True, but I think we're remiss if we don't point out the tendency of forum-goers to defend the "honor" of females as opposed to males in a sort of There Are No Girls on the Internet sort of vein. Plus, I don't think one needs to be a Troll to make an accusation of White Knighting. I've changed the wording to make that a little clear.

I think we're feeding the derailing tactic if we act like this is a legitimate criticism rather than just an attempt to invoke "bros before hos" to silence detractors.

If it's accurate, it's not derailing. You're the denialist in spite of any accuracy. Why would the dogmatist get the right of way here? And please don't pull the obvious gendered victim card. I'd rather not have white knights in here of all places. The irony wouldn't even be funny anymore.

Not entirely. I've seen cases where a person reversed their own position to defend another. And others where the defense in and of itself was so patronizing it was white knighting simultaneously with damning with faint praise. Plus, the trope is largely about it's use as an ad hominem defense tactic by trolls and misogynists.

And why is it largely about false accusation exactly? It's a real phenomenon, so why the bias? There's not an unbiased version on T Vtropes, so shouldn't the only trope be neutral?