Main Unwinnable Training Simulation Discussion

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12:13:07 PM Feb 12th 2015
The trope is called "Unwinnable Training Simulation", but much of the description talks about a character failing a simulation because of a particular flaw, then overcoming that flaw. The name doesn't fit this.
09:03:10 PM Aug 21st 2012
I think this trope should be renamed "Kobayashi Maru Test" after the Star Trek test quoted at the top.
03:00:13 AM Aug 22nd 2012
No. That's a completely opaque name.
05:32:57 PM Aug 23rd 2012
So you've never been a fan of Star Trek then? Lots of names in TV Tropes are, as you call it "Opaque" to people who aren't fans of the source of the trope name. That's why there are "Trope Namers", after all. Star Trek is well known enough to a large enough portion of the population to make it work better than the neutered name it now has.
06:03:28 AM Jan 2nd 2013
edited by rmsgrey
"Kobayashi Maru" is what I would have guessed for a trope name, but also what I would have hoped it wasn't simply because it's so hard to spell...

Compared to "hanging a lampshade", which I only know through TV Tropes, "Kobayashi Maru", widely known among Star Trek fans, is fairly well known.

I still wouldn't want it as the trope name, but only because, like I said, I don't know how to spell it.
05:43:01 PM Mar 11th 2010
I think this trope needs a little pruning. Quite a few of the entries seem to miss the whole "no-win situation" part, meaning the page is filled up with examples that are just simulations that look real at first. Maybe the latter could be budded off into its own trope, if one doesn't already exist?
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