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29th Apr '16 11:47:12 AM StarSword
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* "Fanfic/TheUniverseDoesntCheat" was written for a ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' forum prompt on the ''Maru'', and somewhat {{deconstruct|ion}}s it. Kanril Eleya takes the test mostly to formalize her right to command,[[labelnote:*]]She was the subject of a severe case of YouAreInCommandNow during a recent Borg incursion, and hadn't taken enough command classes that the ''Maru'' was required.[[/labelnote]] and ends up playing XanatosSpeedChess against the computer. She and T'Var figure out that the computer is cheating when a pair of pursuing battlecruisers hit a physically impossible speed. Eleya changes tactics for the fourth time and the computer basically gives up and drops a battleship on her head. T'Var calls the logic behind the test fallacious and notes that with their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief broken by the computer's obvious cheating, the accuracy of the test is questionable. Meanwhile Eleya comments that, while she believes actual no-win scenarios to be ''possible'', they usually happen "because somebody ''fucked up''!"

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* "Fanfic/TheUniverseDoesntCheat" was written for a ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' forum prompt on the ''Maru'', and somewhat {{deconstruct|ion}}s it. Kanril Eleya takes attempts XanatosSpeedChess against the test mostly to formalize computer[[note]]She negotiates with the Klingons as a delaying tactic while she sets up her right ''real'' plan, which is to command,[[labelnote:*]]She was the subject of a severe case of YouAreInCommandNow during a recent Borg incursion, and hadn't taken enough command classes that fire on the ''Maru'' was required.[[/labelnote]] to disrupt its shields and ends up playing XanatosSpeedChess against beam everybody off, while simultaneously {{ramming|AlwaysWorks}} her way out of the computer. She Klingon pincer by going to warp ''through'' a battlecruiser, then spraying torpedoes out her rear launcher to discourage pursuit.[[/note]], but unusually for fan fiction ''doesn't'' win: she and T'Var figure out that the computer is cheating when a pair of pursuing battlecruisers hit a physically impossible speed. Eleya speed, then changes tactics for the fourth ''again''[[note]]This time she's prepared to sacrifice herself and the stardrive in a holding action to let the saucer containing the ''Maru'' crew and her nonessentials escape.[[/note]] and the computer basically gives up and drops a battleship on her head. T'Var calls the logic behind the test fallacious and notes that with their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief broken by the computer's obvious cheating, the accuracy of the test is questionable. Meanwhile Eleya comments that, while she believes actual no-win scenarios to be ''possible'', they usually happen "because somebody ''fucked up''!"



28th Apr '16 8:56:22 PM aye_amber
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* The third season premiere of ''Series/{{Chuck}}''.
* Happened a few times in ''{{ER}}''. Abby was working with a dying patient, with [[DrJerk Romano]] briskly telling at her to move faster, only for the patient to die. Then, just as Romano solemnly and brutally told her that the patient was dead, the camera swiveled around to show us that the patient was a dummy.

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* The third season premiere of ''Series/{{Chuck}}''.
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* Happened a few times in ''{{ER}}''. ''Series/{{ER}}.'' Abby was working with a dying patient, with [[DrJerk Romano]] briskly telling at her to move faster, only for the patient to die. Then, just as Romano solemnly and brutally told her that the patient was dead, the camera swiveled around to show us that the patient was a dummy.



* One episode of ''{{Cleopatra 2525}}'' featured a variant of this trope where one character had to learn the nearly impossible route and hazards of a rescue mission using a virtual reality simulator (in time to actually make the run and save a teammate). Of course, nobody bothers to tell her it's a simulation the first time so for her the trope is in effect like she's in the audience until she fails and sees her friend die before the simulation resets.

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* One episode of ''{{Cleopatra 2525}}'' ''Series/Cleopatra2525'' featured a variant of this trope where one character had to learn the nearly impossible route and hazards of a rescue mission using a virtual reality simulator (in time to actually make the run and save a teammate). Of course, nobody bothers to tell her it's a simulation the first time so for her the trope is in effect like she's in the audience until she fails and sees her friend die before the simulation resets.
24th Apr '16 6:09:10 AM SSJMagus
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** When future Wraith Squadron pilot Myn Donos' first command is wiped out, the disaster is made into a hellish training sim the other Wraiths are subjected to (while they wonder why Donos is excused from it). [[spoiler:Later, after they've learned the reason and Myn is suffering a HeroicBSOD, they place him in the simulation while he's asleep in a desperate attempt to get through to him.]]

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** When future Wraith Squadron pilot Myn Donos' first command is wiped out, the disaster is made into a hellish training sim the other Wraiths are subjected to (while they wonder why Donos is excused from it). [[spoiler:Later, after they've learned the reason (he was the SoleSurvivor of the battle that the training sim is based on) and Myn is suffering a HeroicBSOD, they place him in the simulation while he's asleep in a desperate attempt to get through to him.]]
20th Apr '16 9:44:41 AM Mondoblasto
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** Proving that Starfleet isn't blind to all those "How I Flunked The ''Kobayashi Maru'' Test" stories circulating among cadets, Wesley Crusher on ''TNG'' was subjected to a different kind of simulated no-win scenario during his Academy training. A faked "accident" left two technicians trapped in a room that would soon flood with radiation, and Wesley was given time to save only one of them. Unable to talk the more terrified man into moving, he helped the injured one to safety and reluctantly left the other behind. Unlike the traditional test this was just for entrance into the academy, and designed to make him face what they had determined was his greatest fear (being in the situation Picard had faced when unable to save Wesley's father on an away mission).

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** Proving that Starfleet isn't blind to all those "How I Flunked The ''Kobayashi Maru'' Test" stories circulating among cadets, Wesley Crusher on ''TNG'' was subjected to a different kind of simulated no-win scenario during his Academy training. A faked "accident" left two technicians trapped in a room that would soon flood with radiation, and Wesley was given time to save only one of them. Unable to talk the more terrified man into moving, he helped the injured one to safety and reluctantly left the other behind. Unlike the traditional test this was just for entrance into the academy, and designed to make him face what they had determined was his greatest fear (being in the situation Picard had faced when unable to save Wesley's father father, his best friend, on an away mission).
18th Apr '16 10:02:19 PM digiman619
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** Mackenzie Calhoun found an interesting way to get through the Kobayashi Maru in ''[[ExpandedUniverse Stone And Anvil]]'': [[spoiler:he gives the orders to destroy the ship himself.]]

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** Mackenzie Calhoun found an interesting way to get through the Kobayashi Maru in ''[[ExpandedUniverse Stone And Anvil]]'': [[spoiler:he gives the orders to [[ShootTheDog destroy the ship ship]] himself.]]
3rd Apr '16 8:06:31 PM spiritsunami
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** It does it again in the sixteenth episode, this time referencing the Kobayashi Maru by name. Trainees are to work in pairs to try to defuse a situation with a hijacked plane, and every time they think they've got a winning solution, a new wrinkle shows up.
24th Mar '16 7:57:18 PM Ramidel
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* In ''[[Literature/TheActsOfCaine Blade of Tyshalle]]'', the College of Battle Magic has an advanced class that opens with the Lakefront simulation. In it, our student Actor is put into a VR simulation of Overworld, in the docks of the city of Ankhana, where he/she hears the sound of a woman being assaulted down a nearby alley by a single man. Those actors who confront the man will quickly find out that there are two others waiting on the low rooftops to jump some fool like you rushing to her aid. Even defeating all three won't do; the best student in the College, Kris Hansen, got that far only to be knifed by the woman, who is in on the charade. When Hari Michaelson, a Labour-caste near-dropout with terrible magick skills, enters the challenge, he becomes the first person in the history of the College to beat the simulation. Not bothering with spells, [[CombatPragmatist he gets the jump on the first man]], [[BadAss KOs the other two before they can recover from jumping into the alley]], and [[SatisfiedStreetRat knows better than to trust the woman]], who gets her throat cut when she tries to knife him. He only fails because the test expected him to use magick, and the instructor hacked the simulation to bring the other players back to life and beat him senseless, something that was never before needed for the Lakefront sim.

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* In ''[[Literature/TheActsOfCaine Blade of Tyshalle]]'', the College of Battle Magic has an advanced class that opens with the Lakefront simulation. In it, our student Actor is put into a VR simulation of Overworld, in the docks of the city of Ankhana, where he/she hears the sound of a woman being assaulted down a nearby alley by a single man. Those actors who confront the man will quickly find out that there are two others waiting on the low rooftops to jump some fool like you rushing to her aid. Even defeating all three won't do; the best student in the College, Kris Hansen, got that far only to be knifed by the woman, who is in on the charade. When Hari Michaelson, a Labour-caste near-dropout with terrible magick skills, enters the challenge, he becomes the first person in the history of the College to beat the simulation. Not bothering with spells, [[CombatPragmatist he gets the jump on the first man]], [[BadAss KOs the other two before they can recover from jumping into the alley]], and [[SatisfiedStreetRat knows better than to trust the woman]], who gets her throat cut when she tries to knife him. He only fails because the test expected him to use magick, and the instructor hacked the simulation to bring the other players back to life and beat him senseless, something that was never before needed for the Lakefront sim. Regardless, as the instructor points out, the point of the test is to show whether the Actor-to-be can give the viewers an interesting death scene.
4th Mar '16 4:08:42 AM nighttrainfm
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* In issue 1 of the Creator/BoomStudios ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' comic, Tommy is given one that involves escorting a group of civilians to safety during a giant monster attack. They walk right into a Putty ambush, but Zordon explains that it was meant to be impossible no matter which path he chose. Tommy, who's still dealing with the guilt of what he did while brainwashed, demands another go ''anyway''.
3rd Mar '16 11:32:52 AM konekootome
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* ''FanFic/WithThisRing'''s version of ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' episode ''Failsafe'' shows Orange Lantern and the rest of team going into the simulation knowing it was a test before it goes [[GoneHorriblyWrong horribly wrong]] when M'gann accidentally causes them to believe the simulation was real. Thinking that Earth was getting invading and his friends were dead or in danger, [[SummonBiggerFish Orange Lantern summons]] [[PhysicalGod the Oph]][[SealedEvilInACan idian]] to turn the tide and ends up defeating the simulation. To everyone's horror, the Ophidian comes out with them at the end of the simulation.
27th Feb '16 8:35:03 PM Kadorhal
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*** And then there's always unpredictable Commander Riker, who is alluded to have brought an EVA suit into the simulation so that he could fight the enemy ships ''with his fists''.

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*** And then there's always unpredictable [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Commander Riker, Riker]], who is alluded to have brought an EVA suit into the simulation so that he could fight the enemy ships ''with his fists''.



*** One of the novels has Kirk's nephew [[spoiler:save the ship by [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificing himself]], challenging the enemy commander (Romulan rather than Klingon in this version) to single combat and having the ''Enterprise'' beam off the ''Kobayashi Maru'' crew and run away while he fights to the death. As he puts it during the simulation, "It's a no-win scenario, Mr. Spock, I'll give you that. [[HeroicSacrifice But only for me.]]" The admiral in command assumes he must have cheated like his uncle, but Spock explains that it all would've worked. It's just that Peter Kirk knew far more about Romulan culture (including a formal challenge predating the Vulcan/Romulan schism that -- if properly given -- is punishable by death to refuse, even if issued by a non-Romulan) than a cadet normally would.]]

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*** One of the novels has Kirk's nephew [[spoiler:save the ship by [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificing himself]], challenging the enemy commander (Romulan rather than Klingon in this version) to single combat and having the ''Enterprise'' beam off the ''Kobayashi Maru'' crew and run away while he fights to the death. As he puts it during the simulation, "It's a no-win scenario, Mr. Spock, I'll give you that. [[HeroicSacrifice But only for me.]]" The admiral in command assumes he must have cheated like his uncle, but Spock explains that it all would've worked. It's just that Peter Kirk knew far more about Romulan culture (including a formal challenge predating the Vulcan/Romulan schism that -- if properly given -- is punishable by death to refuse, even if issued by a non-Romulan) than a cadet normally would.]]



* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII: CrisisCore'' begins with one of these, with Zack and Angeal on a simulated mission to the Sector 1 train station ([[ContinuityNod which was not entirely unlike that of the original game]]). At least it explains [[ViolationOfCommonSense why Zack was acting so casual with a dozen soldiers firing machine guns at him...]] At the end of the mission he engages Sephiroth who viciously and effortlessly defeats him, only for Angeal to end the simulation as Sephiroth holds his sword business-edge over Zack's face.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII: CrisisCore'' VideoGame/CrisisCore'' begins with one of these, with Zack and Angeal on a simulated mission to the Sector 1 train station ([[ContinuityNod which was not entirely unlike that of the original game]]). At least it explains [[ViolationOfCommonSense why Zack was acting so casual with a dozen soldiers firing machine guns at him...]] At the end of the mission he engages Sephiroth who viciously and effortlessly defeats him, only for Angeal to end the simulation as Sephiroth holds his sword business-edge over Zack's face.



* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' two parter, ''Stewie Kills Lois/Lois Kills Stewie''

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* The ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' two parter, two-parter, ''Stewie Kills Lois/Lois Kills Stewie''Stewie'', is revealed to be one of these in the final minutes.



* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerPuffGirls'' use a holographic training room in one episode as a ShoutOut to X-men.

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* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerPuffGirls'' ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' use a holographic training room in one episode as a ShoutOut to X-men.


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* ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge''[='=]s fifth "Tales from a Parallel Universe" storyline is introduced with one of these: Rockman successfully defeats Junk Man, then gets hit with a sneak attack by Guts Man. Guts Man proceeds to pick up a boulder to finish Rockman off, but then he freezes in place [[http://bobandgeorge.com/archives/021106 as it turns out Roll shut off the simulation]].
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