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2nd Jun '16 11:50:57 AM CASCHero
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* One of eps of the ''Series/TheATeam'' has Hannibal, Face and Murdock trapped in a Vietnam prison and Hannibal going over his head how they'll escape. Needless to say the imagined attempt doesn't end well.

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* One of eps of the ''Series/TheATeam'' has Hannibal, Face and Murdock trapped in a Vietnam prison and Hannibal going over in his head how they'll escape. Needless to say the imagined attempt doesn't end well.
2nd Jun '16 11:50:06 AM CASCHero
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* One of eps of the ''Series/TheATeam'' has Hannibal, Face and Murdock trapped in a Vietnam prison and Hannibal going over his head how they'll escape. Needless to say the imagined attempt doesn't end well.
19th May '16 7:32:37 PM erforce
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** Tactical Officer Winston Zeddemore (yep, from ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'').

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** Tactical Officer Winston Zeddemore (yep, from ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'').''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}'').
12th May '16 11:49:42 AM tropower
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has Princess Celestia's school for gifted unicorns. The test to get in involves hatching a dragon egg, which WordOfGod said was unwinnable. When Twilight Sparkle took the test, [[spoiler: her magical abilities were exponentially multiplied as a result of Rainbow Dash's Sonic Rainboom, which allowed her to pass the test and, coincidentally, give birth to Spike.]] However the Season Five finale seemingly retcons this idea away since, when she fails to hatch the egg when the past is changed, she ''isn't'' accepted into the school. [[FridgeLogic One must wonder how exactly one does get into this school]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has [[Franchise/XMen Princess Celestia's school school]] [[ShoutOut for gifted unicorns.unicorns]]. The test to get in involves hatching a dragon egg, which WordOfGod said was unwinnable. When Twilight Sparkle took the test, [[spoiler: her magical abilities were exponentially multiplied as a result of Rainbow Dash's Sonic Rainboom, which allowed her to pass the test and, coincidentally, give birth to Spike.]] However the Season Five finale seemingly retcons this idea away since, when she fails to hatch the egg when the past is changed, she ''isn't'' accepted into the school. [[FridgeLogic One must wonder how exactly one does get into this school]].
9th May '16 5:50:06 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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** A released audio segment depicting the training for the Space Shuttle's earliest available abort mode, RTLS (Return To Launch Site), was this. Engine 1 (the center engine) failed approximately 30 seconds after liftoff. The trainers were sporting enough to wait until after the shuttle had gotten some return velocity to Kennedy Space Center (but not enough) before killing Engine 2 (the starboard engine) - mostly because the Shuttle's response to losing two engines during the powered pitch-around maneuver would be to drop directly into the Atlantic Ocean. Engine 3 died shortly before fuel exhaustion, leaving a contingency abort (essentially, ditching the shuttle as close to land as possible and abandoning ship via the mid-deck) the only remaining option. It's easy to tell why the astronauts who flew the Shuttle never, ever wanted to actually ''use'' the RTLS abort in a mission (fortunately, the only abort mode ever used was abort-to-orbit, used on ''Challenger'''s 8th mission).
29th Apr '16 11:47:12 AM StarSword
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* "Fanfic/TheUniverseDoesntCheat" was written for a ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' forum prompt on the ''Maru'', and somewhat {{deconstruct|ion}}s it. Kanril Eleya takes the test mostly to formalize her right to command,[[labelnote:*]]She was the subject of a severe case of YouAreInCommandNow during a recent Borg incursion, and hadn't taken enough command classes that the ''Maru'' was required.[[/labelnote]] and ends up playing XanatosSpeedChess against the computer. She and T'Var figure out that the computer is cheating when a pair of pursuing battlecruisers hit a physically impossible speed. Eleya changes tactics for the fourth time and the computer basically gives up and drops a battleship on her head. T'Var calls the logic behind the test fallacious and notes that with their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief broken by the computer's obvious cheating, the accuracy of the test is questionable. Meanwhile Eleya comments that, while she believes actual no-win scenarios to be ''possible'', they usually happen "because somebody ''fucked up''!"

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* "Fanfic/TheUniverseDoesntCheat" was written for a ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' forum prompt on the ''Maru'', and somewhat {{deconstruct|ion}}s it. Kanril Eleya takes attempts XanatosSpeedChess against the test mostly to formalize computer[[note]]She negotiates with the Klingons as a delaying tactic while she sets up her right ''real'' plan, which is to command,[[labelnote:*]]She was the subject of a severe case of YouAreInCommandNow during a recent Borg incursion, and hadn't taken enough command classes that fire on the ''Maru'' was required.[[/labelnote]] to disrupt its shields and ends up playing XanatosSpeedChess against beam everybody off, while simultaneously {{ramming|AlwaysWorks}} her way out of the computer. She Klingon pincer by going to warp ''through'' a battlecruiser, then spraying torpedoes out her rear launcher to discourage pursuit.[[/note]], but unusually for fan fiction ''doesn't'' win: she and T'Var figure out that the computer is cheating when a pair of pursuing battlecruisers hit a physically impossible speed. Eleya speed, then changes tactics for the fourth ''again''[[note]]This time she's prepared to sacrifice herself and the stardrive in a holding action to let the saucer containing the ''Maru'' crew and her nonessentials escape.[[/note]] and the computer basically gives up and drops a battleship on her head. T'Var calls the logic behind the test fallacious and notes that with their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief broken by the computer's obvious cheating, the accuracy of the test is questionable. Meanwhile Eleya comments that, while she believes actual no-win scenarios to be ''possible'', they usually happen "because somebody ''fucked up''!"



28th Apr '16 8:56:22 PM aye_amber
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* The third season premiere of ''Series/{{Chuck}}''.
* Happened a few times in ''{{ER}}''. Abby was working with a dying patient, with [[DrJerk Romano]] briskly telling at her to move faster, only for the patient to die. Then, just as Romano solemnly and brutally told her that the patient was dead, the camera swiveled around to show us that the patient was a dummy.

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* The third season premiere of ''Series/{{Chuck}}''.
''Series/{{Chuck}}.''
* Happened a few times in ''{{ER}}''. ''Series/{{ER}}.'' Abby was working with a dying patient, with [[DrJerk Romano]] briskly telling at her to move faster, only for the patient to die. Then, just as Romano solemnly and brutally told her that the patient was dead, the camera swiveled around to show us that the patient was a dummy.



* One episode of ''{{Cleopatra 2525}}'' featured a variant of this trope where one character had to learn the nearly impossible route and hazards of a rescue mission using a virtual reality simulator (in time to actually make the run and save a teammate). Of course, nobody bothers to tell her it's a simulation the first time so for her the trope is in effect like she's in the audience until she fails and sees her friend die before the simulation resets.

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* One episode of ''{{Cleopatra 2525}}'' ''Series/Cleopatra2525'' featured a variant of this trope where one character had to learn the nearly impossible route and hazards of a rescue mission using a virtual reality simulator (in time to actually make the run and save a teammate). Of course, nobody bothers to tell her it's a simulation the first time so for her the trope is in effect like she's in the audience until she fails and sees her friend die before the simulation resets.
24th Apr '16 6:09:10 AM SSJMagus
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** When future Wraith Squadron pilot Myn Donos' first command is wiped out, the disaster is made into a hellish training sim the other Wraiths are subjected to (while they wonder why Donos is excused from it). [[spoiler:Later, after they've learned the reason and Myn is suffering a HeroicBSOD, they place him in the simulation while he's asleep in a desperate attempt to get through to him.]]

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** When future Wraith Squadron pilot Myn Donos' first command is wiped out, the disaster is made into a hellish training sim the other Wraiths are subjected to (while they wonder why Donos is excused from it). [[spoiler:Later, after they've learned the reason (he was the SoleSurvivor of the battle that the training sim is based on) and Myn is suffering a HeroicBSOD, they place him in the simulation while he's asleep in a desperate attempt to get through to him.]]
20th Apr '16 9:44:41 AM Mondoblasto
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** Proving that Starfleet isn't blind to all those "How I Flunked The ''Kobayashi Maru'' Test" stories circulating among cadets, Wesley Crusher on ''TNG'' was subjected to a different kind of simulated no-win scenario during his Academy training. A faked "accident" left two technicians trapped in a room that would soon flood with radiation, and Wesley was given time to save only one of them. Unable to talk the more terrified man into moving, he helped the injured one to safety and reluctantly left the other behind. Unlike the traditional test this was just for entrance into the academy, and designed to make him face what they had determined was his greatest fear (being in the situation Picard had faced when unable to save Wesley's father on an away mission).

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** Proving that Starfleet isn't blind to all those "How I Flunked The ''Kobayashi Maru'' Test" stories circulating among cadets, Wesley Crusher on ''TNG'' was subjected to a different kind of simulated no-win scenario during his Academy training. A faked "accident" left two technicians trapped in a room that would soon flood with radiation, and Wesley was given time to save only one of them. Unable to talk the more terrified man into moving, he helped the injured one to safety and reluctantly left the other behind. Unlike the traditional test this was just for entrance into the academy, and designed to make him face what they had determined was his greatest fear (being in the situation Picard had faced when unable to save Wesley's father father, his best friend, on an away mission).
18th Apr '16 10:02:19 PM digiman619
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** Mackenzie Calhoun found an interesting way to get through the Kobayashi Maru in ''[[ExpandedUniverse Stone And Anvil]]'': [[spoiler:he gives the orders to destroy the ship himself.]]

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** Mackenzie Calhoun found an interesting way to get through the Kobayashi Maru in ''[[ExpandedUniverse Stone And Anvil]]'': [[spoiler:he gives the orders to [[ShootTheDog destroy the ship ship]] himself.]]
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