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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 6:46:00 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Apparently in need of a description trimming., started by Deboss on Jan 26th 2011 at 5:52:35 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ElleWednesday Since: May, 2011
Sep 17th 2011 at 12:54:28 PM •••

Would it be alright to add Logan and Veronica, from Veronica Mars? The Other Wiki lists then on their supercouple page, but the show really isn't that well known so I wasn't sure if they counted.

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LucyInTheSky Since: Nov, 2011
Nov 22nd 2011 at 8:21:25 PM •••

The other wiki isn't perfect and if the characters from that show aren't that well-known, they probably shouldn't be there - though there are a lot of couples who really should be pruned from this list.

Lydia55 Since: Jul, 2011
Sep 23rd 2011 at 10:15:54 PM •••

Actually, in writing the above explanation for the trope, I've reviewed my stance on Blaine/Kurt (I'm the troper formerly known as Erda) and think they actually do qualify for Super Couple status. They've had a few magazine covers, their Relationship Upgrade last season caused basically the entire LGBT world to rejoice, and they tend to be where non-fans put their focus when they talk about the series. Does anyone disagree with my adding them?

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pimpdaddy Since: Oct, 2010
Aug 3rd 2011 at 5:08:16 PM •••

Can we clarify what the specifics are to this trope? Because it sounds basically like a combination of They Do, Beta Couple, and Official Couple. Plus there aren't too many detailed examples.

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Lydia55 Since: Jul, 2011
Sep 23rd 2011 at 9:58:36 PM •••

Basically, it's where a couple's popularity transcends its fandom, to the point where even those who don't follow the show might be familiar with them. For example, you didn't need to be a Friends fan to know about Ross and Rachel or a Buffy fan to know about her and Angel. In the more extreme cases, you get couples like Jim and Pam where any big change in their relationship (like their wedding) is a huge TV event. With the example I added - Naomi and Emily from Skins - it's because they have become such huge icons for LGBT and specifically lesbian visibility, and there's even a book coming out soon about the effects of the "Naomily phenomenon." Their notability and popularity clearly transcends the Skins fandom.

Addressing the tropes you mentioned: A Super Couple is usually the Official Couple, but the vast majority of Official Couples are not Super Couples (for an example, see the above discussion re: Finn/Rachel from Glee and why they don't qualify for the trope). They're almost never the Beta Couple. As for They Do, it's a good test for this trope but it's still not the same trope. (The anticipation for and reaction to They Do moments can tell you whether you're dealing with a true Super Couple, as opposed to just a particularly popular couple within the fandom.)

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Redikolous Since: Sep, 2009
Dec 9th 2010 at 2:32:51 PM •••

Ok, I'm a pretty good Glee fan. I like a lot of pairings on the show, even Finn/Rachel. A lot of the publicity materal has Finn/Rachel/Will/Emma, and Sue. But when I think Super Couple I think:

"The Super Couple describes those pairings which intrigues and fascinates the public on an intense and obsessive level."

That's not Finn/Rachel. A lot of people watch Glee for Sue, for the music, the jokes, the craziness. I didn't see nearly as much fanfare when Finn and Rachel got together, compared to say, Jim/Pam, whose wedding got amazing amounts of fanfare. Official Couple, maybe, not Super Couple.

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Erda Since: May, 2010
Jun 15th 2011 at 1:04:31 AM •••

If anything, this season the LGBT characters and couplings have been the ones getting most of the publicity outside of the fandom, with the Rachel/Finn/Quinn triangle treated as just a distraction. Blaine/Kurt would probably be the closest thing the show has to a Super Couple, as they were high-profile to begin with, and the writers dragged Will They or Won't They? on so long that them finally kissing in "Original Song" was a pretty big deal and garnered lots of coverage. But even they fall short, I think.

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Erda Since: May, 2010
Jun 15th 2011 at 1:16:05 AM •••

Also, people keep adding Rachel and Finn back in despite both the discussion here and the edit summaries, so I put a warning on the page, explaining why they don't qualify and telling people who disagree to take it to discussion first. (Seriously, I would like to hear someone explain why they think they qualify for this trope. Because I can't see how.)

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