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07:38:32 AM Jan 6th 2018
Why isn't this trope Trivia?
05:44:26 AM Feb 20th 2017
edited by MagBas
Question: Someone guess that Saint Ajora(of Final Fantasy Tactics fame) deserves be listed here? After all, Saint Ajora is referred as a girl in the japanese-only Ultimania and in the japanese Final Fantasy XII.
10:31:49 PM Nov 24th 2012
" (especially to tomboys if they aren't likely to want to identify with The Chick)"

^^ Has anybody in the universe ever intentionally marketed a show to tomboys?

That sounds like a made up statement IMO.
06:39:03 PM Jun 30th 2012
edited by Internetakias
09:58:45 AM Mar 17th 2012
edited by KirbyRider
Basic Trope: A character has different genders in different places
  • Straight: Bob's dog is female in America, but is male in Japan
  • Exaggerated: Bob's dog is a Girly Girl in America, but is a non-Bishōnen male in Japan
  • Downplayed: Bob's dog is a tomboy in America, but is a Bishōnen in Japan
  • Justified: Bob's dog was seen with feminine qualities in Japan.
  • Inverted: Bob's dog is male in America, but female in Japan
  • Subverted: Dropped a Bridget on Him applying to Bob's dog in America. His gender remains male in Japan, though
  • Double Subverted: But suddenly, Bob's dog was taken to the vet. In the version with the Unsettling Gender Reveal, the dog went under Gender-changing Surgery offscreen.
  • Parodied: In Japan, Bob's dog wears a hat with the symbol "♂" in it. That symbol was changed to the symbol "♀".
  • Zig Zagged: See Double Subverted. After that, it was revealed that the gender-changing surgery failed.
  • Averted: Bob's dog is female in America and Japan.
  • Enforced: One episode featuring Bob's dog revealed that its love was a male hound. So the makers Bowdlerized the Ho Yay.
  • Lampshaded: (Subbed) "Be strong, little guy" (Dubbed) "Who's a good girl?"
  • Invoked: ???
  • Exploited: In Japan, a female dog was used as bait. In America, this dog was male.
  • Defied: ???
  • Discussed: ???
  • Conversed: "So, let me guess. That TV show's Bob has a female dog that's male in Japan."
03:46:27 AM Feb 17th 2011
Do we want to do an opposite of this for characters that change gender the other way? As in female/male in japan but not in europe etc?
12:42:13 AM Mar 21st 2011
"Note that despite the title, this applies to changes in either direction, not just male to female. Which country they're coming from or going to doesn't matter either."
10:21:50 AM Jul 7th 2011
As the one who actually added that part, I have to say that we should stick with that. Even without that addition, it was implicit in the trope text already, as it didn't specifically refer to male to female, but just sex change.

There was so much confusion about that point that I decided it needed to be explicitly stated, plus there's no particular reason to consider inversions or an inverted version of the trope when this one can work just fine for changes in either direction besides the name.
10:52:09 PM Jul 29th 2010
edited by sxizzor
Can we not have Birdo as the page's picture? His/her gender is so ambiguous, ranging from "retconned" to "male but likes crossdressing" to "transwoman". I'd prefer something a little simpler. I'm sure Sailor Moon has an example or two.
05:37:06 PM Dec 22nd 2010
My personal take is that Birdo is a species, i.e. there's more than one, with some sort of stable (i.e. mixed) gender balance. Problem Solved. (The first pothole is intentional, the second is a wish.)

Maybe have Vivian as the Trope Model instead.
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