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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 10:26:49 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Crossdressing tropes in general, started by Twilightdusk on Jun 4th 2010 at 12:23:38 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Kazeto Elementalist Since: Feb, 2011
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Mar 10th 2015 at 2:28:14 PM •••

I think that the definition of this trope used right now sort of conflicts with one of the examples. Namely, with this one:

  • Transgender people may have to pretend to be their birth gender around people who know them as such, such as their parents and old friends, or in situations where their legal identity is required and they haven't changed it.

The reason why I think it does is that the description right now says it is the gender that is being disguised recursively, and yet in this case it is only disguised once because the first layer of the disguise hides their sex instead.

With that in mind, either the description is not exactly right, or the example isn't really much of an example. So does anyone have any ideas about it?

Optativity Since: Jan, 2012
Oct 20th 2012 at 11:19:59 AM •••

The Shakespeare example exaggerates; it's not 'practically every' comedy where boy actors dress as female characters dressed as men – only in four (Twelfth Night, Two Gentlemen of Verona, The Merchant of Venice, and As You Like It) is there crossdressing, and multiple cross-dressed women only in the last two.

Xenon62 Since: Jun, 2009
Jun 7th 2011 at 4:30:07 PM •••

Wouldn't "Victor/Victoria" count as an example of this? A woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman...

Citizen Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 28th 2010 at 6:45:54 PM •••

This xkcd comic (human pretending to be an animal pretending to be human) makes me wonder if there's any basis for a recursive supertrope, but nothing else comes to mind.

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