How come the Civilization series of computer games isn't mentioned, when it was almost certainly from there that Iain M. Banks got his inspiration for the concept?
Hide / Show RepliesFor what concept? What are you talking about?
Oh, the page quote? Why should it be mentioned? How is it "almost certainly" where he got the idea, when it's a historical fact?
Edited by MrDeathI can't say anything about Banks' quote, but this is a regular occurrence in 4X games like Civ. At normal difficulty levels, a good human player can blitzkrieg an isolated continent with dark-ages technology (literally sending in tanks and bombers against cities defended by pikemen). At higher difficulty levels, it's usually the player who has to face such obstacles because the computer is a cheating bastard.
Edited by 198.134.51.42Cut this:
- * The Germans in World War II for much of Europe, despite the fact that most of their technological innovations like the tank and the airplane were nothing new. It was just that no one had foreseen (well, no one who was taken seriously, at any rate) the sheer effectiveness of Blitzkrieg.
- While he is (arguably) a regular guy, Johann Liebert in Monster is so far above everyone else in cunning and knowledge that he doesn't fit in with the rest of the decidedly normal cast. Everyone is potentially a plaything for him to manipulate with total ease and kill off when he's done with them. Just being next to him causes major psychological damage if it he doesn't cause them to kill themselves first.
The boldfacing is mine, and this would be an example if it were literally true, which I highly doubt.
No Real Life examples? There were many valid examples just before the whole folder was deleted? What's the point of this? This page's RL folder couldn't even be controversial.
Hide / Show RepliesYeah, it seemed weird to me, too. There's a few examples from history which fit this perfectly - the Spanish invasion of South America, for instance, and the Mongols in Russia and Eastern Europe. I don't think it's controversial to say that the people that they were *destroying* believed them to be villains, and as long as that was specified I don't see a problem.
Is this trope a good thing or a bad thing?
Trans rights are human rights. If you don't think that, please leave. Hide / Show RepliesSo what's the word on heroic examples? Obviously, different connotations, but the spirit of the trope could still be in play if the narrative doesn't take the hero's perspective.
Cell from Dragon Ball isn't an example of this trope, in his first appearance he was trounced by Piccolo and had to absorb humans, than the androids, in order to become a bigger threat. His origins were also explained in his first appearance, and heavily foreshadowed.
I would argue that the Joker in TDK fits this trope, at least somewhat, but its more complicated than the current entry describes. The reason he's an Outside Context Villain is everyone expects him to either be a criminal ( motivated by greed ) or a psychopath ( motivated by bloodlust ). Instead, what they got was a Neitzschean Knight Templar who wants to convert people to a belief in nihilistic anarchy.
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