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proudeagle
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01:34:10 PM Oct 14th 2013
"Particularly strange to modern people is that several of those founders who owned slaves still opposed slavery. Thomas Jefferson and John Jay are notable examples. They often justified this by saying that slavery had been forced on them by British economic policies; while this is a remarkably self-serving view, they did at least acknowledge that slavery was wrong."

Shouldn't this mention the blatant self-serving hypocrisy rather than link to 'fairforitsday'?
eedwardgrey3
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11:57:24 AM Jun 18th 2012
Wouldn't this be the counterpart to Politically Incorrect Villain?
Shendal
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04:30:38 PM Jan 30th 2012
The Mass Effect example is getting pretty out of hand. As the series unfolds it's becoming more and more apparent that this trope is one facet of the whole reason for the series, with Commander Shepard being a nexus point bringing together multiple disparate groups who must learn to work together for the good of all. We might want to think about paring the example down a bit, summarizing it, just so that we don't end up listing everything in the whole series.
Chapel717
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03:39:04 PM Oct 9th 2011
Does this trope require that the trait be portrayed as negative, or can it be used unintentionally? (In the latter case, is it always YMMV?)
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