History Main / NobleBigot

9th May '17 5:38:01 AM DVB
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** Most of the heroes are at least slightly racist towards the Ishvalans.

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** Most of the heroes are at least slightly racist towards the Ishvalans.Ishvalans (barring the Elric Brothers. Possibly justified since of their age.)
10th Apr '17 11:33:54 AM Calllack
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May also overlap with TragicBigot. See also NobleBigotWithABadge and BoomerangBigot. Compare GoodIsNotNice. May overlap with WickedCultured or FairForItsDay. May come off as AffablyEvil (or even FauxAffablyEvil) to the targets of his prejudice. Compare HatesEveryoneEqually, which describes a person who is not bigoted against a''particular'' demographic.

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May also overlap with TragicBigot. See also NobleBigotWithABadge and BoomerangBigot. Compare GoodIsNotNice. May overlap with WickedCultured or FairForItsDay. May come off as AffablyEvil (or even FauxAffablyEvil) to the targets of his prejudice. Compare HatesEveryoneEqually, which describes a person who is not bigoted against a''particular'' a ''particular'' demographic.
4th Apr '17 5:24:18 AM Doug86
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* Haruka Suzushiro of MaiHime implies that she finds lesbianism disgusting.

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* Haruka Suzushiro of MaiHime ''Anime/MaiHime'' implies that she finds lesbianism disgusting.
2nd Apr '17 4:26:02 AM AhBengI
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->'''Mark''': What I'm finding offensive, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, is your unreflecting acceptance of this cliché that all Samaritans are wankers.

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->'''Mark''': What I'm finding offensive, offensive ó and I'm Iím sure I'm Iím not the only one, one ó is your unreflecting acceptance of this cliché that all Samaritans are wankers.



->'''Mark''': Yeah, and I'm saying that the fact that you wouldn't expect goodness from a Samaritan, betrays your inherent racism.

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->'''Mark''': Yeah, and I'm saying that the fact that you wouldn't expect goodness from a Samaritan, Samaritan betrays your inherent racism.
24th Mar '17 1:48:29 PM abscake
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The noble bigot prides himself - and it usually ''is'' a man, since women are commonly stereotyped as being "nicer" and more sensitive - on doing the right thing, making sure that those in need are taken care of, yet in the same instance has no qualms with labeling those different from himself with [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain unreasonably prejudiced terms]] or [[YouAreACreditToYourRace backhanded compliments]]. Although the noble bigot basically wallows in his own {{jerkass}} nature, he's on the side of good as well. His bigotry might even be motivated by a misguided desire to be good and "loyal" rather than a CategoryTraitor -- he considers himself to be superior, and superior people are supposed to be polite and honorable. Other characters either are constantly revolted by his nature, or brush it off as it just being in his nature, in the hope that others will get used to it. It may or may not prove to be PretendPrejudice.

This character will almost always [[HeelFaceTurn be totally redeemed in the end]] - and even if he isn't, it will still be acknowledged that he has his good qualities. Sometimes, he is as sympathetic as such a character can be, only holding on to his prejudices due to a FreudianExcuse (his parents taught him to be this way, or he was once wronged by a member of the group he now despises). A distinct but closely related trope is the InnocentBigot, who honestly thinks he is ''not'' prejudiced due to ValuesDissonance, and is thus unaware rather than a {{Jerkass}}.

It is also possible - albeit confusingly so - for a person to be both racist ''and'' anti-racist. [[SlapSlapKiss Love and hate exist in a sort of yin/yang combination]], and it's possible for a person to ''theoretically'' admire groups but also hate them out of pure envy or fear (see RaceFetish and KarmicTransformation for more on this), or for someone to have [[TheThemeParkVersion a ridiculously outdated "idealized" notion]] of a certain group but then hate modern-day individuals of that group for [[PretenderDiss not living up to that imagined standard]] or for [[CategoryTraitor "betraying" their culture]] (this being a common attribute of so-called liberal racism).

This trope has its roots in the eighteenth-century Enlightenment, when the great minds of the day condemned ''religious'' bigotry but viewed ''racial'' bigotry as acceptable and even logical. The attitude went mainstream during the Victorian era and then became steadily degraded as it percolated down through the less educated classes. More modern anthropological discoveries during the early twentieth century did much to [[DiscreditedTrope discredit scientific racism]], and then [[WorldWarII the Holocaust]] [[DeadHorseTrope killed it off for good as a topic of serious discussion]]. In fiction, however, it is alive and well.

May also overlap with TragicBigot. See also NobleBigotWithABadge and BoomerangBigot. Compare GoodIsNotNice. May overlap with WickedCultured or FairForItsDay. May come off as AffablyEvil (or even FauxAffablyEvil) to the targets of his prejudice. Compare HatesEveryoneEqually, which describes a person who is not bigoted against anyone ''in particular''.

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The noble bigot prides himself - and it usually ''is'' a man, since women are commonly stereotyped as being "nicer" and more sensitive - due to gendered stereotypes- on doing the right thing, thing and making sure that those in need are taken care of, yet in the same instance has no qualms with labeling those different from himself with [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain unreasonably prejudiced terms]] or and [[YouAreACreditToYourRace backhanded compliments]]. Although the noble bigot basically wallows in his own {{jerkass}} nature, he's on the side of good as well.not considered truly villainous. His bigotry might even be motivated by a misguided desire to be good and "loyal" rather than a CategoryTraitor -- he considers himself to be superior, and superior people are supposed to be polite and honorable. Other characters either are constantly revolted by his nature, or brush it off as it just being in his nature, in the hope that others will get used to it. It may or may not prove to be PretendPrejudice.

This character will almost always [[HeelFaceTurn be totally redeemed in the end]] - and even if he isn't, it will still be acknowledged that he has his good qualities. Sometimes, he is as sympathetic as such a character can be, only holding on to his prejudices due to a FreudianExcuse (his parents taught him to be this way, or he was once wronged by a member of the group he now despises). A distinct but closely related trope is the InnocentBigot, who honestly thinks he is ''not'' prejudiced due to ValuesDissonance, and is thus unaware rather than a {{Jerkass}}.

It Confusingly, it is also possible - albeit confusingly so - for a person to be act both racist ''and'' anti-racist. [[SlapSlapKiss Love and hate exist in a sort of yin/yang combination]], and it's possible for a person to anti-racist, such as admiring groups ''theoretically'' admire groups but also hate while in practice hating them out of pure envy or fear (see RaceFetish and KarmicTransformation for more on this), or for someone to KarmicTransformation). Or maybe they have a [[TheThemeParkVersion a ridiculously outdated "idealized" notion]] of a certain group but then hate modern-day individuals of that group for [[PretenderDiss not living up to that imagined standard]] or for [[CategoryTraitor "betraying" their culture]] (this being a common attribute of so-called liberal racism).

culture]].

This trope has its roots in the eighteenth-century Enlightenment, when the great minds well known scholars of the day condemned ''religious'' bigotry but viewed ''racial'' bigotry as acceptable and even logical. The attitude went mainstream during the Victorian era and then became steadily degraded as it percolated down through the less educated classes. More modern anthropological discoveries during the early twentieth century did much to [[DiscreditedTrope discredit scientific racism]], and then [[WorldWarII the Holocaust]] [[DeadHorseTrope killed it off for good as a topic of serious discussion]]. In fiction, however, it is alive and well.

May also overlap with TragicBigot. See also NobleBigotWithABadge and BoomerangBigot. Compare GoodIsNotNice. May overlap with WickedCultured or FairForItsDay. May come off as AffablyEvil (or even FauxAffablyEvil) to the targets of his prejudice. Compare HatesEveryoneEqually, which describes a person who is not bigoted against anyone ''in particular''.
a''particular'' demographic.
11th Mar '17 11:53:00 AM nombretomado
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* MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain: Code Talker puts his tribe first, going as far as to research supersoldiers via parasite therapy and uranium-eating bacteria, all in the name of preserving his "peaceful, nature-abiding tribe". However, he has learned over the years that what matters more than a man's culture is how he chooses to act over it; Skull Face has proven that some people who claim to protect their homelands can be complete dicks. He compliments the efforts of Diamond Dogs as a "Superorganism" that recognizes cultural and individual differences and combines them to create a small nation.

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* MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain: ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'': Code Talker puts his tribe first, going as far as to research supersoldiers via parasite therapy and uranium-eating bacteria, all in the name of preserving his "peaceful, nature-abiding tribe". However, he has learned over the years that what matters more than a man's culture is how he chooses to act over it; Skull Face has proven that some people who claim to protect their homelands can be complete dicks. He compliments the efforts of Diamond Dogs as a "Superorganism" that recognizes cultural and individual differences and combines them to create a small nation.
2nd Feb '17 7:19:09 PM rjd1922
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* Slughorn in ''Literature/HarryPotter'' is an example. While he's one of the most sympathetic characters Slytherin House produces, he still displays the 'Blood Purity' ideology that makes most Slytherins so distasteful; he assumes Voldemort must be a pure-blood due to his immense magical power, and expresses mild surprise when he finds muggle-born wizards with above-average talent, such as Lily or Hermione. However, he won't look down on a muggleborn for long if they manage to impress him with their talent.

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* Horace Slughorn in ''Literature/HarryPotter'' is an a {{downplayed|trope}} example. While he's one of the most sympathetic characters Slytherin House produces, he still displays the 'Blood Purity' ideology that makes most Slytherins so distasteful; he assumes Voldemort must be a pure-blood due to his immense magical power, and expresses mild surprise when he finds muggle-born wizards with above-average talent, such as Lily or Hermione. However, [[YouAreACreditToYourRace he won't look down on a muggleborn muggle-born for long if they manage to impress him with their talent.talent]].
27th Oct '16 8:25:24 AM AgProv
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* Charles Emerson Winchester III in ''Series/{{MASH}}'', scion of a snooty Boston Brahmin family. Throughout the series his (very many) prejudices are Lampshaded and challenged and he is big enough to jettison many of them in the light of hard experience. Albeit in a graceless and reluctant way.
19th Oct '16 5:49:05 AM Captain_Barbarossa
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* ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'' has Torbjörn and Zarya. Both of them are fighting on the good guys' side - Torbjörn being a founding member of Overwatch and Zarya a soldier in the Russian army - but they both unapologetically hate [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Omnics]]. This is somewhat understandable, as Torbjörn's warnings of the impending [[AIIsACrapshoot Omnic Crisis]] were ignored by his peers, and Zarya lost her home in said crisis. But since the only playable Omnic characters are a NiceGuy ReligiousRobot and a GentleGiant {{Cute Machine|s}}, their hateful anti-Omnic speech makes them seem a bit like {{Jerkass}}es.
18th Sep '16 1:44:27 PM intastiel
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May also overlap with TragicBigot.See also NobleBigotWithABadge and BoomerangBigot. Compare GoodIsNotNice. May overlap with WickedCultured or FairForItsDay. May come off as AffablyEvil (or even FauxAffablyEvil) to the targets of his prejudice. Compare HatesEveryoneEqually, which describes a person who is not bigoted against anyone ''in particular''.

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May also overlap with TragicBigot. See also NobleBigotWithABadge and BoomerangBigot. Compare GoodIsNotNice. May overlap with WickedCultured or FairForItsDay. May come off as AffablyEvil (or even FauxAffablyEvil) to the targets of his prejudice. Compare HatesEveryoneEqually, which describes a person who is not bigoted against anyone ''in particular''.


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* Duane in ''Webcomic/{{Unsounded}}'': a devout nationalist, he subscribes wholeheartedly to his home country's abhorrence of its arch-rival Cresce and its StayInTheKitchen attitude towards women. He comes to deconstruct the trope when he's faced with highly confident and independent women [[spoiler:within his own family]] and meets Crescians living normal lives, shunting him into TroubledSympatheticBigot territory as he weighs his loyalty to his home country against the realities before his eyes.
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